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#668
Date:         Sun, 2 Jul 1995 15:03:26 EDT
From:         MCDERMOTT@COPHDEP2.COPH.USF.EDU
Subject:      chairs' meeting

I am seeking to identify the level of interest from chairs of health
education programs concerning a possible meeting in the Tampa Bay
area during January or February 1996 to (1) look at common concerns
in administration, (2) future of graduate preparation, (3) mechanisms
for improving administrative effectiveness, and (4) other issues and
topics.

Robert J. McDermott, Ph.D.
University of South Florida
College of Public Health
13201 Bruce B. Downs, Blvd.
Tampa, FL  33612
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#669
Date:         Mon, 3 Jul 1995 10:20:00 EST
From:         "Sunnarborg, Kathryn R." 
Subject:      Re: worksite health educ

Cam,

Thought you would find this interesting.

Kathie
 ----------
From: HEDIR
To: Multiple recipients of list HEDIR
Subject: worksite health educ
Date: Friday, June 30, 1995 9:48PM

    A current issue in Health Education is that health educators are not
required to take buiness courses.  More Worksite Health positions are being
won
by those with business credentials as oppose to health educators.  What is
your postion on this issue?  please respond by 7-3-95.  My address is
dg_reaves
Thank you in advance.  email address dg_reaves


Please omit below sentences
your position on this issue?  Please resw
A current issue in health education{
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#670
Date:         Mon, 3 Jul 1995 18:51:17 CST
From:         dg_lindsey@VENUS.TWU.EDU
Subject:      air pollution

I am looking for a tried and true program to teach a small community about
health hazards of air polutiojn on the lungs.  I am specifically interested in
automobile emmissions and how the newly reinstated emissions testing can help
clear the air.
Thank you for reading this message.
Sincerely,

Ginny Lindsey
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#671
Date:         Mon, 3 Jul 1995 19:57:32 -0400
From:         Michael Pejsach 
Subject:      American Association of Health Education

Well....who's in?

I have heard that the SOPHE/AAHE/other coalition folks meeting (June 17-18 in
Atlanta) was the same old, same old....with the same old folks saying the
same old thing.  Isn't it about time we started taking care of the profession
and stopped protecting our butts, cash flow, property, and traditions?  Isn't
it about time  we considered the needs of the health educator out there in
the real world trying to protect his/her job against the psychologists and
MSWs who don't have a clue about community organization or behvaior change?

Isn't it about time to have an organization that can truly represent ALL
health educators. It's time to have an organization that can serve a resource
for helping to maintain professional standards and supporting every component
of the profession.  The questions are rhetorical.  I don't want to discuss it
and waste more time. I think we need to move on this NOW! If you're in, let
me know.

OK, OK...I guess I am willing to continue to discuss...but, hey,
folks...think about it: Are you getting your moneys worth?  Are MSWs and
others filling health education jobs in your state? How many health education
positions have been filled by unqualified folks during all of these
discussions?  How has school health education fared in your state?

I think it's worth the effort.  Remember--only 1/3 of all physicians belong
to the AMA. When someone is looking for a health education resource, opinion
regarding the medical profession, or policy statement, they don't go to a
coalition (of what?) to get it...they call the one organization they know
about AMA.  AAHE and SOPHE and others have had time to market who and what
they are. It is very doubtful that others (Mass Media as an important
example) outside of this profession know what they are and what they do.
 Everyone knows and responds to the AMA.

Are we dissolving already existing resources?  Maybe, but aren't we kind of
doing that anyway?

Are we threatening to hurt our profession? Doubtful.  Show me evidence that
it would and I'll show you evidence that what's been going and not going on
has not been necessarily good for the WHOLE PROFESSION (it's been good for
some and some organizations).

Come on folks....let's take the leap into the 21st Century.  We all have to
take a risk. If we don't, who will (the MSWs?)? It's time!
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#672
Date:         Mon, 3 Jul 1995 23:50:47 -0400
From:         William Livingood 
Subject:      Re: American Association of Health Education

An interesting challenge! Take some risks?? Form still another
organization to represent health educators?

Before we rush to form another organization, I'd like to suggest that
Mike and others with similar feelings become more involved in the
existing organizations.  Get the organizations to do a better job.  You
might be
surprised at how open they are to suggestions and how willing they are to
incorporate the ideas and energies of the health educators who want to
contribute to enhancing the status of the profession.

                                        Bill Livingood
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#673
Date:         Tue, 4 Jul 1995 15:52:38 -0400
From:         Nathan Matza 
Subject:      Journal Access

Fellow colleagues:

Does anyone know of a quick way to get to specific Professional Journals
i.e., APHA, JAMA, Health Ed Quarterly, etc.?  I am on line with AOL and spend
too much time using gophers to go to various universities only to get lost or
not to have access to sources. Also what do you find is the quickest way to
do a subject  search?  I have tried Veronica with mixed results. I want to
have a direct access to health topics e.g., tobacco abuse, STD research,
suicide prevention, consumer health, nutrition etc.  AOL has not completed
the World Wide Web access yet; but if you are using it, I would much
appreciate good sources. When you have time, please advise.

Thanks for your help,

Nathan Matza    matzanm@aol.com
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#674
Date:         Wed, 5 Jul 1995 13:18:19 -0600
From:         "David C. Wiley 245-2946" 
Subject:      Body Image Survey

Dear Colleagues,

I'm interested in locating validated instruments which assess body image by
college females. I'd appreciate any help you could provide.

Thanks,

David Wiley
Southwest Texas State University
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#675
Date:         Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:21:12 EDT
From:         Donna 
Subject:      Health Education Curriculum Theory

Who in Health Education is doing work in the area of Curriculum Theory?
Issues/terms that are related inlcude paradigm shifts, critical theory,
constructivist, existentialism, phenomonology, hermeneutics, post-
structuralism and post-modernism.  Any thoughts, suggestions or comments
are appreciated.  Thanks!

Donna J.Baird            Phone # (216)533-5892 (H)
7460 Crory Rd.                   (216)533-3335 (W)
Canfield, Ohio 44406     Email   DBaird@kentvm.kent.edu
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#676
Date:         Thu, 6 Jul 1995 10:40:29 -0700
From:         "Andrew Jenkins (Central Washington University)"
              
Subject:      Friday Inspiration

Hi Friends,
So, it's not Friday yet but here goes:

This nice quote is from syndicated columnist, Deb Price.

"Courage is as contagious as fear but much more rewarding.  But fear is a
habit that's hard to break.  It imprisons even in our dreams."


Good stuff, that!


Andrew P Jenkins, Ph.D., CHES
Central Washington University
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#677
Date:         Thu, 6 Jul 1995 14:04:10 CST6CDT
From:         "Corbett, Bonnie - TAMUHR1" 
Organization: TAMU HUMAN RESOURCES DEPT.
Subject:      Re: health insurance companies and health promotion prog.

I would like to know if anyone is aware of any health care providers
providing a discount to an agency (company or university)  for
having an acitive health promotion program.  Please let me know if
such programs exist.

Thank you.


Bonnie Sorenson Corbett, M.Ed., CHES
Program Coordinator
Health Promotion Program
Texas A&M University
College Station, TX  77843-1255
409-845-6091 phone
409-845-6894 fax
bcorbett@tamuhr1.tamu.edu
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#678
Date:         Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:59:50 -0400
From:         "F. STEPHEN BRIDGES" 
Subject:      JOB/Position Announcement

    Visiting Assistant Professor in Health Education/Science (health
generalist)
    Dept. of Exercise Science/Wellness Education
    Florida Atlantic University (Ft. Lauderdale area),
    9 month appt. with possibility of summer teaching
    Position starts Aug. 7, 1995 / Position open until filled
    Send letter of application and 2 page CV by FAX ASAP to:(305) 236-1259
    Telephone interviews will commence July 13, 1995
    PLEASE INCLUDE E-MAIL ADDRESS with Faxed materials
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#679
Date:         Thu, 6 Jul 1995 23:20:52 -0400
From:         Ace 
Subject:      National Coming Out Day, October 11

Hello,
        Just a note from the National Coming Out Project (NCOP) in Washington,
DC to remind all of you that National Coming Out Day, October 11, is
approaching
.

 We are in the process of creating our National Coming Out Day Campus Kits for
1995.  If you are interested in receiving one, please call us at:

                        (800) 866-6263

We provide campus groups with event ideas, networking opportunities, Keith
Harin
g Merchandise, and a speakers network to help them plan National Coming Out
Day
events for their campuses.

        If you are not interested in a Campus Kit, but would like more
information about National Coming Out Day, Candace Gingrinch's 53 Cities
Tour, Human Rights Campaign Fund or Gay Issues in the Workplace, Please
call us at (800) 866-6263 and we will be glad to help.

        We are in our office from 9am to 6pm EST.

        Hope to hear from you soon!

                        Lisa Helene Helfman
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#680
Date:         Fri, 7 Jul 1995 02:59:21 CST
From:         Saeid Rezvankhah 
Subject:      Jobs......

Dear Collegues,

The following advertisment was posted in the American Society for Microbiology
newsletter.  Hope it will be helpful.

                               JOB OPPORTUNITIES

             NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH
                     HEALTH EFFECTS LABORATORY DEVISION

The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH), (Centers
for
Disease Control and Prevention, US Public Health Service), is seeking
qualified
candidates to serve in the Health Effects Laboratory Division in Morgantown,
West Virginia. The Health Effects Laboratory Division (HELD) is a new Division
that will provide NIOSH with state-of-the-art advanced technology capability,
emphasizing laboratory research. The Division will conduct focused, applied,
and multifaceted laboratory research; develop intervention programs; and
design
and implement effective methods for health communications.

The focus of the research will address real-life, workplace-related health
problems, utilizing workplace contaminants where appropriate.  The overall
goal
of preventing occupational health problems will form the heart of the research
agenda. The research effort will be multidisciplinary and interactive with
other Divisions in NIOSH.

NIOSH will be recruiting toxicologists (T-1), microbiologists (M-1),
pathologists (P-1), physiologists (PH-1), veterinarians (V-1), industrial
hygienists (IH-1), chemical engineers (CE-1), aerosol physicists (AP-1),
health
communications specialists (HCS-1), general engineers (GE-1), electrical or
electronic engineers (EE-1), computer specialists/programmers (CS-1),
biostatisticians/mathematicians (B-1).

NIOSH is looking for senior researchers/health communicators who have
substantial training in the field for which they are interested, doctorate
degree preferred. Substantial experience with occupational health research is
desirable.

These positions will be within the Commissioned Corps of the United States
Public Health Service or in the Civil Serivce System of the United States
Government. Salary ranges depend upon qualifications, experience and personnel
system used. All citizens of the United States may apply. No previous federal
experience is necessary.

Interested candidates should request information regarding current job
postings
(identifying discipline by code number) from: Human Resources Management
Office
 1095 Willowdale Road, M/S 153, Morgantown, West Virginia  26505.



You may also refer to the ASM News, v61 n6 June 1995.  No deedlines were
posted

Saeid Rezvankhah
Saeid123@siucvmb.siu.edu
musr@ecom1.ecn.bgu.edu
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#681
Date:         Fri, 7 Jul 1995 11:39:20 -0400
From:         "F. STEPHEN BRIDGES" 
Subject:      Update on Job Announcement

    Visiting Assistant Professor in Health Education/Science.
    Doctorate preferred, will consider ABD if doctorate
    is in hand by May 1, 1996.
    Dept. of Exercise Science/Wellness Education.
    Florida Atlantic University (Ft. Lauderdale area).
    9 month appointment with possibility of summer teaching.
    $30-35K, seeking a health generalist to teach 4 classes/semester.
    Send letter of application and 2 page CV by FAX ASAP to 305 236-1259.
    Telephone interviews begin July 13, 1995.
    PLEASE INCLUDE E-MAIL ADDRESS with FAXED materials.
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#682
Date:         Sat, 8 Jul 1995 12:31:23 -0400
rom:         Michael Pejsach 
Subject:      Amercian Health Education Association (AHEA)!

Ever wonder why health educators can't get reimbursement for our services
(unless you're a health education trained nurse?).  Ever ask your
professional orgnaization to get it done? Why hasn't this been addressed?
With professional standards and professionalism as its emphasis the American
Health Education Association WILL focus on helping health educators advance
into the health care market. It's about time.

See you at the FOUNDERS meeting in San Diego, at a still to be determined
place and specific date during the October 28-November 1, 1995 period.

Pro Forma, Incorporation papers and 501 (c) 3 papers will be available on the
Health Education Electronic Forum (HEEF; on the Internet, via First Class 2.6
software, or by modem- (504) 342-3733) for YOUR REVIEW and FEEDBACK t least
20 days before that meeting!
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#683
Date:         Sat, 8 Jul 1995 15:15:32 -0400
From:         Nathan Matza 
Subject:      Re: addresses

Fellow colleagues:
Mark Kittleson was kind enough to give me this list of many journals to
access in the area of health education.  I have been asked to share this list
from several members. so here it is:
Nathan, I'm sure that this is more than what you want, but perhaps you can
find something of value from these addresses:

Regards to all:

Nathan Matza matzanm@aol.com

                           World Wide Web Addresses

            Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D., Southern Illinois University

          HTTP Address:                                     Topic:

http://eryx.syr.edu/COWSHome.html                   AskERIC Home Page
http://www.cdc.gov/diseases/bacterial.html       Bacterial/fungal diseases
gopher://inform.uchc.edu/11gopher_root%3a%5b_data04._data0401%5d
    Biomedicine
http://stats.bls.gov                                   Bureau of Labor
http://hpb1.hwc.ca/links/english.html         Canadian list of health topics
gopher://gopher.nih.gov:70/00/clin/carcernet/instructions            Cancer
gopher://gopher.nih.gov:70/11/clin/cancernet/pdginfo              Cancer
http://hpb1.hwc.ca/links/canceng.html                       Cancer
gopher://gopher.niaid.nih.gov:70/11/aids/cdcds    CDC Daily Summaries
http://www.cdc.gov                                        CDC Home Page
http://www.siu.edu/aboutcdc.htm                                    CDC
http://www.cdc.gov/diseases/aids.html    CDC AIDS/HIV AIDS Information Page
gopher://gopher.niaid.nih.gov:70/11/aids/csr       CDC Surveillance Data
gopher://mail.coin.missouri.edu:70/11/reference/census/us   Census Data
http://www.netgen.com/cgi/comprehensive              comprehensive
http://www.biostat.wisc.edu/diaknow/index.htm        diabetes
http://nuinfo.nwu.edu/research        Dissertation sources from Northwest
http://www.interport.net/~asherman/dv.html          domestic violence
http://www.2.infoseek.com/titles?qt=2f+alcohol        Drugs and alcohol
http://hyperreal.com/drugs/faqs/resources.html  Drug Related Network
Resources
http://h-devil-www.mc.duke.edu/h-devil    Duke University Health Devil
On-Line
http://kuhttp.cc.ukans.edu/cwis/units/medcntr/Lee/JOURNALS.HTML
                                         Electronic health journals
http://www.siu.edu:80/departments/coe/hedrec    Email for Health Educators
http://www.pacificrim.net/~nature/                  environmental issues
http://www.epa.gov/gumpo/emap-dat.html                               EPA
http://www.yahoo.com/government/agencies               Government agencies
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/healthwise                      Go Ask Alice
http://www.perspective.com/health/index.html       HEALTH IN PERSPECTIVE
http://cortex.uchc.edu/~libweb/libpg1.html          HEALTHNET NEWSLETTER
http://hpb1.hwc.ca/links/newshlth.html                 Health Newsletters
http://www.sa.sdsu.edu/health/cchpage.html     Health Promotion Resource Page
http://hpb1.hwc.ca/links/topic_e.htm                    health by topic
http://osler.wustl.edu/~murphy/cardiology/compass.html        Heart Disease
http://128.220.90.135/              Johns Hopkins Hospital--Heart Disease
http://www.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=health+legislation&t=on&+on Heart Disease
http://www.optics.rochester.edu:8080/users/pgreene?faq/med/cardio.ht  Heart
Disease
http://synapse.uah.uablerta.ca/synapse//000p0057.htm     Heart Disease
http://www.cdc.gov/cgi-bin/includetext.pl?/general information/diseas
 Hepatitis
http://www.cdc.gov/diseases/viral.html                     Influenza
http://www.cdc.gov/cgi-bin/includetext.pl?/generalinformation/injury/orginfo
.txt   Injury
http://www.ifrc.org/                              International Red Cross
http://vh.radiology.uiowa.edu/MMWR/MMWRHomePage.html               MMWR
http://www.crawford.com/cdc/mmwr/mmwr.html  Morbidity & Mortality Weekly
Report
http://www.primenet.com/~gwa/med.ed/            The Medical Education Page
http://www.vix.com/pub/men/health/health.html                men's health
http://hpb1.hwc.ca/links/menteng.html                      mental health
http://nhic-nt.health.org               National Health Information Center -
                               Office of Health Promotion/Disease Prevention
http://www.nih.gov                                             NIH Home Page
http://www.niehs.nih.gov/    National Institute of Environmental Health
Sciences
http://www.cdc.gov/nchswww/nchshome.htm National Center for Health
Statistics
http://www.gov/diseases/niosh.html
                        National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/                         National Library of Medicine
http://now.org/now/home.html                                          N.O.W.
http://www.yahoo.com/Health/Nutrition                Nutrition/Diet Analysis
http://hpb1.hwc.ca/datahpsb/npu/hpb3.html                         nutrition
http://www.osha-slc.gov                                                 OSHA
http://www.cmpharm.ucsf.edu/~troyer/safesex.html              Safer Sex Page
http://www.cts.com/~health/strssbus.html                              stress
http://www.os.dhhs.gov/0/samhsa/samhsahp.html                Substance Abuse
http://www.cdc.gov/diseases/tb.html                             Tuberculosis
http://healthline.umt.edu:700              The University of Montana Student
                                                      Health Services
HEALTHLINE
http://www.os.dhhs.gov:80       U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
http://www.hwc.ca/cgi-bin/nph-client#anchor1                        Web Chat
http://www.who.ch                                                        WHO
http://www.who.ch/others/OtherHealthWeb.html                             WHO
http://hpb1.hwc.ca/links/womeneng.html                        Women's Health
http://sfgate.com/examiner/womensweb.html                         Womens Web
________________________
Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D.
Owner and Founder of HEDIR



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#684
Date:         Sun, 9 Jul 1995 15:17:46 CST
From:         Youmas Siewe 
Subject:      reimbursement for Health Ed. Svc.

This note is in response to that of my honored colleague Paul, on
his concern that only Health education-trained Nurses
receive reimbursement for services, and that "we" need to do something.
  Great idea! Traditionally the services of Health Educators have been
directed toward Health Promotion & Disease Prevention, we all know that
Nurses activively participate in the cure of diseases or alleviating
discomfort. It is the "cure & alleviating" concept of disease that
our traditional Health consumers have been historically educated
to appreciate and reimburse for. Sad enough, but a reality!
  Suggestion: Developing strategies to seek reimbursement for our
noble services should strongly include educating our traditional
consumers from whom we can expect reimbursement, about the importance
of health promotion and Disease prevention, through the different domains
that we employ.( Writer is an experienced Registered Nurse and currently
a full-time Ph. D. student in Health Education at SIU-Carbondale)
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#685
Date:         Mon, 10 Jul 1995 15:04:19 -0400
From:         William Livingood 
Subject:      Re: reimbursement for Health Ed. Svc.

 Please help with clarification of how a new organization will help with
reimbursement for health education services as Mike suggested.  Most
professions whose practitioners are reimbursed are licensed.  Some such
as counseling are working on state license laws to a large extent for
that purpose.  The link to state license became much clearer to many
when the President proposed Health Care Reform.  For Health Education
practitioners to be reimbursed for their services, society must be able
to identify the practitioners.

Health Education's credentialing efforts are a long way from state
licensure but a number of existing organizations have been working hard
and made significant progress related to credentialing of the profession
in the last few years.  SOPHE, AAHE, and NCHEC are but a few.

Fragmentation of the profession is a problem that impedes credentialing
and impedes clarification of what the profession is and who the
practitioners are.  I am concerned that forming a new organization will
contribute to fragmentation and undermine development of the profession.

There is also a question concerning the nature of the profession.  Do we
want to adopt a reimbursement model that is associated with a service
to individual client relationship.  This has major implications for
health education efforts related to community empowerment, systems
development, etc.
                                        Bill
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#686
Date:         Mon, 10 Jul 1995 13:05:32 U
From:         Fulop Mark 
Subject:      Re: reimbursement for Health Ed. Svc.

Bill Livingood wrote:

>Fragmentation of the profession is a problem that impedes >credentialing and
impedes clarification of what the profession is and >who the practitioners
are.  I am concerned that forming a new >organization will contribute to
fragmentation and undermine >development of the profession.

Bill might be accused of having some prejudice given his relationship with
SOPHE, but as one not attached in a significant way (besides membership) to
any professional organization, I too, fail to see to see the logic in
fragmenting into yet another quasi-professional association.

If we are to be a profession, we need to be creating significant overlap in
dialogue between existing organizations to the point where we could consider
collapsing some of the existing organzitions into one umbrella.

Hmmmm, I wonder how many times this idea continues to be recycled?

__________________________________________________________________________
Mark P. Fulop, MPH, CHES                        fulop_mark@mailgw.sdsu.edu
Director, Health Promotion and Education

California College Health 2000 &
Collegiate Health Care
6363 Alvarado Court, Suite 226
San Diego, CA 92120

voice -  619.594.2869
FAX      619.594.8707

WEB SITE:  http://www.sa.sdsu.edu/health/cchpage.html
=========================================================================
#687
Date:         Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:36:17 -0500
From:         Lynn Wolfe 
Subject:      Open Position:  Chair, Health Science Education

Georgia Southern University seeks applicants and nominees for the position
of DEPARTMENT CHAIR, HEALTH SCIENCE EDUCATION.

                                         QUALIFICATIONS

The College of Health and Professional Studies is seeking applicants and
nominee
s for the position of Department
Chair of Health Science Education.  Dynamic and energetic leaders are invited
to
 apply for this 12-month, tenure-
track position.  Qualifications:  (1)  Earned doctorate in health education,
com
munity health, or public health, (2)
experience and qualifications for appointment to full professor rank and
graduat
e faculty status, (3) strong
organizational, leadership, and interpersonal skills to work effectively with
co
lleagues from other academic
departments, as well as public/community agencies, (4) evidence of successful
ac
ademic administrative ability and
effectiveness, (5) a commitment to teaching, service, and scholarship that is
co
nsistent with the college's priorities
for the department and the mission of the university, (6) demonstrated
professio
nal leadership in discipline-related
organizations, (7) knowledge of accreditation, certification, and
credentialing
within the discipline, and (8) ability
and vision for leading the department into the 21st century.

                                         THE DEPARTMENT

The Department of Health Science Education is one of five academic units
within
the College of Health &
Professional Studies which include Nursing, Family & Consumer Sciences,
Recreati
on & Leisure Services, and
Sport Science & Physical Education.  In addition,  the College houses the
Center
 for Rural Health and Research.
The Department of Health Science Education has approximately 12 faculty and
staf
f, and over 100 majors enrolled
in  programs of study in the areas of health promotion and community health. 
Pr
oposed graduate programs in the
areas of public health and health services administration are in the
discussion
stage.  Curriculum development plans
include consideration of graduate programs in public health and health
services
administration.  The department,
culminating a period of redirection, restructuring, program development, and
fac
ulty recruitment, seeks to recruit
a national leader for the position of department chair.


                                         THE UNIVERSITY

Georgia Southern University, a unit of the University System of Georgia, was
fou
nded in 1906 and became a
regional university on July 1, 1990.  The 601-acre campus is located in
Statesbo
ro, a community of approximately
30,000 residents, 50 miles northwest of historic Savannah and 200 miles
southeas
t of Atlanta.  Anticipated fall
quarter 1995 headcount of approximately 14,000 reflects a 115% enrollment
growth
 since the fall of 1984, resulting
in the addition of over 200 faculty positions.  The university offers 25
undergr
aduate degrees in 75 major fields of
study, thirteen master's degrees in 49 fields, the Education Specialist degree
w
ith 16 majors, and Ed.D. degree in
Educational Administration.

                                          APPLICATIONS

Applications must be postmarked by November 1, 1995, to ensure consideration
for
 the position.  Send letter of
application, accompanied by detailed resume addressing job description,
unoffici
al transcripts of all college work,
names, addresses, and telephone numbers of at least three references to:  Dr.
Ly
nn Wolfe, Search Committee Chair,
Georgia Southern University, Landrum Box 8073, Statesboro, Georgia, 30460. 
Posi
tion available July 1, 1996.
Affirmative action equal opportunity institution.  Please know that the names
of
 applicants and nominees, resumes,
and other general non-evaluative information will be open to public inspection
u
nder Georgia Law.  Individuals who
need reasonable accommodations under the ADA in order to participate in the
appl
ication process should notify the
search chair.
!
J. Lynn Wolfe
Assistant Dean, College of Health and Professional Studies
Georgia Southern University
L. B. 8073
Statesboro, GA  30460
Voice Mail (912) 681-5322  GIST 364-5322
E-Mail:  Wolfe_ly@gsvms2.cc.gasou.edu
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#688
Date:         Mon, 10 Jul 1995 19:40:17 -0400
From:         Michael Pejsach 
Subject:      Re: reimbursement for Health Ed. Svc.

Reply to Bill Livinggood:

"Fragmentation of the profession is a problem that impedes credentialing
and impedes clarification of what the profession is and who the
practitioners are. "

-You said it!-
It has also impeded the move towards strategically marketing our profession
so we coud get licensure.  It has already impeded the growth of the
profession, generally. It took 10 years for the coalition to get to first
base on credentialing. How long will it take before we're taken seriously?
 ("Seriously" defined here means paying for our health education
prevention/health promotion services in some settings.)
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#689
Date:         Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:55:33 -0700
From:         "Andrew Jenkins (Central Washington University)"
              
Subject:      Friday Inspiration

Friends,

It seems to me that so often it's easier to point out the  faults rather
than the assets in another person and by doing so, we cultivate those
faults. As teachers and mentors our challenge, it seems, is to discover
the hidden assets in each individual and to help them realize their
fullest potential. A nice few lines by Jonathon Swift seems to address this:

"Although men are oft accused of not knowing their weaknesses, yet perhaps
few know their strengths.  It is in men as in soils, where sometimes there
is a vein of gold which the owners knows not of."


Keeping the dream.
Andrew P Jenkins, PhD
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#690
Date:         Sat, 15 Jul 1995 09:45:18 -0600
From:         "Craig H. Domeyer" 
Subject:      Netscape Training Manual

From: "Craig H. Domeyer"  
Date: Thu, Aug 30, 1956 2:18 AM

                         Netscape Training Manual

     I have developed a succinct training manual that quickly teaches the
basic components of Netscape.  Written for both students and teachers to
use, The Netscape Road Map manual is designed to simply lead a new user
through all the major components of the Netscape 1.1 browser.  Also
available with the manual is a disk with 30 URL's favorite education sites
on the internet and a series of 30 overheads to be used while teaching from
the manual.

     If you are interested, please send me a message at:

                     cdomeyer@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us

Thank you for your interest!



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#691
Date:         Sat, 15 Jul 1995 10:46:45 -0600
From:         Craig Domeyer 
Subject:      No Subject

                           Netscape Training Manual

  I have developed a succinct training manual that quickly teaches the
basic components of Netscape.  Written for both students and teachers to use,
The Netscape Road Map manual is designed to simply lead a new user through all
the major components of the Netscape 1.1 browser.  Also available with the
manual is a disk with 30 URL's favorite education sites on the internet and a
series of 30 overheads to be used while teaching from the manual.

     If you are interested, please send me a message at:

                       cdomeyer@bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us


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#692
Date:         Sat, 15 Jul 1995 14:17:09 -0700
From:         Robert Collins 
Subject:      Re: Amercian Health Education Association (AHEA)!
In-  <9507081636.AA26594@mx5.u.washington.edu>

Michael,

Thanks for raising an important issue for our profession.  I'm not eager
for further fragmentation of our efforts by establishing another
professional organization purporting to speak for health educators. But
I'm very ready to discuss one of the issues apparently motivating you to
form an American Health Education Association, that is reimbursement by
third parties for the services of health educators.  The upcoming
SOPHE/APHA conferences in San Diego provide a good venue for such
a discussion.  With more and more emphasis upon the importance of
prevention and more and more people getting in line to provide
"prevention" services, it is important that all of our professional
associations become more effective advocates for health education.  I
also feel like we (university based health educators) need to examine our
responsiblity and opportunities to improve the market for graduates of
our health education programs.  I look forward to meeting you and
discussing these issues at San Diego.  Maybe you or others interested in
these same issues could use this e-mail forum for generating questions
and identifying resources that we could review and think about in
preparation for our get together in San Diego!?

Thanks again for raising an important issue.   Ciao!  Bob

Bob Collins                                     206-545-3586
Center for Studies in Health Education          collinsb@u.washington.edu
University of Washington

On Sat, 8 Jul 1995, Michael Pejsach wrote:

> Ever wonder why health educators can't get reimbursement for our services
> (unless you're a health education trained nurse?).  Ever ask your
> professional orgnaization to get it done? Why hasn't this been addressed?
> With professional standards and professionalism as its emphasis the American
> Health Education Association WILL focus on helping health educators advance
> into the health care market. It's about time.
>
> See you at the FOUNDERS meeting in San Diego, at a still to be determined
> place and specific date during the October 28-November 1, 1995 period.
>
> Pro Forma, Incorporation papers and 501 (c) 3 papers will be available on
the
> Health Education Electronic Forum (HEEF; on the Internet, via First Class
2.6
> software, or by modem- (504) 342-3733) for YOUR REVIEW and FEEDBACK t least
> 20 days before that meeting!
>
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#693
Date:         Mon, 17 Jul 1995 09:08:33 -0500
From:         "Michael R. Hoadley" 
Subject:      Job Announcement

Please share this announcement for a faculty position in the Division of
HPER at the University of South Dakota.

POSITION:
Assistant or Associate Professor of Physical Education in the Division of
Health, Physical Education, and Recreation.

JOB DESCRIPTION:
Teach undergraduate and graduate courses in physical education, supervise
clinical and field-based experiences, conduct research, present scholarly
papers, and publish regularly in professional journals.  Preparation in
teaching the following:  foundations of physical education, elementary and
secondary methods, motor learning, and rhythms.

QUALIFICATIONS:
An earned doctorate in Physical Education or related field is required with
emphasis in pedagogy, teaching experience in physical education at the
elementary or secondary level, and evidence of accomplishments or strong
potential for success in research, publication, grant writing, and
professional service is required.  Applicants must have completed doctorate
by September 1, 1995.

APPLY TO:
Dean's Office Search Coordinator
School of Education
University of South Dakota
414 East Clark Street
Vermillion, SD  57069-2390

NOTE:
A written letter of application, a curriculum vita, graduate transcripts,
sample of scholarly productivity, and three letters of reference are
required for applications to be reviewed.  For more information, call the
Division of HPER office at 605/677-5336 or the Dean's Office at
605/677-5437.

The search for this position will continue until the position is filled.
The University of South Dakota is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity
Employer.  Women and minorities are encouraged to apply.  Proof of
eligibility for employment is required by the Immigration and Reform Act of
1986.
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#694
Date:         Mon, 17 Jul 1995 16:56:08 CST
From:         Bill Cissell 
Subject:      American Health Education Association Alternative

Health Educators:  Robert Collins has made an excellent offer.  Without doubt
our profession needs to move forward assertively to become more effective in
serving the public and gaining for its practitioners some of the advantages
realized by other health professionals.  While I believe the formation of a
new
professional organization would seriously inhibit our efforts, Michael Pejsach
has done us a service by giving us a wakeup call about third party
reimbursement.  Robert's suggestion that we use this discussion list to
generate questions to be answered during the SOPHE Annual Meeting in San Diego
is timely.  Possibly even more worthwhile is his suggestion that we identify
resources.

Question 1:  Why has the federal Bureau of Health Professions not updated
their
list of health professions to include health education in a manner that
recognizes the range of degrees and work settings in which professional health
educators practice?

Resource 1:  A manager/supervisor in the Bureau of Health Professions.

Please get involved in this process; it is extemely inportant.

May you enjoy good health and professional success!

Bill Cissell        D_Cissell@Venus.TWU.edu
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#695
Date:         Mon, 17 Jul 1995 23:20:30 -0400
From:         Michael Pejsach 
Subject:      Re: American Health Education Association Alternative

Bill....

I have not been talking about ANOTHER Health Education organization.  I have
been talking about AHEA, THE Health Education Organization.  I was actually
interested, at one time, in SOPHE, with a name change ( a serious barrier to
growth and leadership), taking the role of THE organziation!  I would love
it!

This has been "talked about" at previous SOPHE meetings, as far back as 1989!

I hope SOPHE does DISCUSS the issue of reimbursement.  But, truly,
honestly....what plan of action will come of this talk, this discussion?
 What vision and mission statement does SOPHE have NOW in which such an issue
FITS?  Is SOPHE willing to get into the national discussion and assert itself
to protect health eduation?  Will it have the resources and the numbers to
serve as the profession's delegate and representative at national discussions
of this and other disease prevention and health promotion issues dear to our
hearts?  Will they help to get the words "health educator" and/or "health
education," into the national discussion on natioal health and education
goals?

I'll be there for the discussions....but I am on a different paradigm.  I am
interested in ACTION.

 I have asked the SOPHE board (back in 1989 or 1990?) to consider a business
and marketing plan and strategy.  At that time we were struggling with
membership, barely making expenses and struggling with the journal.  I was
most interested in a marketing  plan (NOT a promotion effort or public
relations!) to change the SOPHE name or making it, somehow, more open and
"new and improved." BLASPHEMY!  Nothing came of those disussions and I
believe that more of the same response will follow discussions you're
recommending---especially now since SOPHE is now very comfortable  now with
its journal arrangement and its membership (why increase membership now and
take the lead---we're OK financially with the journal deal.)

Come on folks...let's get it all on the table.  I am not trying to mock or
cause trouble---to the contrary: I am interested in the profession and we're
sinking fast and NO ONE is taking a marketing/business approach in the
prevention of our  demise:

-where is the coalition's vision and mission statement, let alone a plan of
action that will take us into the 21st century?  Do we teach planning or is
that something we just chat about?  Aren't our graduates and colleagues
responsible for actually planning health education? What's more important
than strategiaclly planning the future of the profession?

-where is the independent consultant who can take a step back from all the
competing organizations of the coalition and do the desperately needed needs
assessment to help us move forward?  How many times has AAHE or SOPHE or ASHA
hired a truly independent consulting firm to take a look at our profession
and give us some unbiased input into our plan (see above)?  I'll venture a
guess: mute point--the professions believe that they have their own
resources, inside, necessary to figure it all out for themselves.....this is
the way businesses that fail plan!  Will they, can they, are they willing to
chip in some money TOGETHER, to hire a firm to do the independent assessment?

It's time to stop talking and start doing....OR start afresh and bring to
fruition a health education profession plan that deals with the issues of
credentialing and licensure with reimbursement falling closely behind
(actually it should fall in line!).  AHEA will be THE organization that will
have its membership from SOPHE, ASHA, AAHE and others, open to the entire
array of health educators.  It will be open;  the NAME will say it!  Members
will have everything current organizations have, including journal, annual
meeting and all.  All members will have direct input via ongoing needs
assessments (formative evaluation- feedback and revisions?) -when did SOPHE,
AAHE or ASHA send out a comprehensive needs assessment?.  And if health
educators are willing to make the paradigm shift and join AHEA, a group that
WILL probably be more global and business-like in its attempt to move the
profession ahead before we are lost in the prevention shuffle (that means we
NEED TO ACT NOW!!!), then we can start. With enough membership we can hire
the independent consultant and figure out how to REALLY move forward and how
to get our profession out there in the real world.

University health education programs are the first to be cut or blended in
with some alien academic life form; some physical educators are still
refusing to cut the umbilical cord; and all sorts of folks continue to call
themselves health educators (because they "know a lot about community
organization and health behavior), etc.......  Before this nightmare gets any
worse, we ALL need more than just a "wake up call."  We need a little bit of
 electric shock or a serious kick in the pants to get us going.  Talking or
discussing the issue with out mapping out a plan is not what I call a
kick-in-the-pants type of activity!

AHEA may be kick in the pants the profession needs.

I am interested in hearing from folks who want to lead the profession forward
and who are intersted in meeting together as AHEA founders in San Diego.  Let
me make this clear, before the misinformation begins: I am not interested in
being the AHEA's president or leader. I am interested in the profession and
will work with others to make it happen.  I am very interested in doing it
right the first time via a business-like/marketing approach.  I am willing to
write the pro forma, but will need your input (have recieved many good
ideas!) and your help and leadership in many of the other tasks necessary to
get this thing going.  Don't wait for it all to be in place before deciding
to join in or to work on this thing.  You're ALL going to have to take a risk
and work on this NOW.   Don't sit there and read the e-mail debate. Take a
position.  If you're even remotely interested in the concept of a new total,
all encompassing organzation, please respond and join me (no fees, no money,
just hard work!).
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#696
Date:         Tue, 18 Jul 1995 16:09:07 -0500
From:         00jfmckenzie@BSUVC.BSU.EDU
Subject:      Job announcement

Job:  Coordinator of Student Health Education
Place:  Ball State University, Muncie, IN

The coordinator of student health education reports to the director of the
Student Health Center.  The primary responsibility of the coord. is to
provide leadership and direction for the health education programs which are
important to the quality of student life.

A master's degree in public or community health education, previous experience
in the administration and delivery of health education/promotion programs is
required.  Additional preferred qualifications are extensive public speaking
experience, evidence of understanding and application of computer technology,
previous experience in a college or community health environment, and evidence
of research and scholarly activity.

Send letters of application, vita, and 3 letters of recommendation to:
        Dr. Donald W. Mikesell
        Dean of Students
        AD 204
        Ball State U.
        Muncie, IN 47306

Review of applications begin immediately and continue until the position is
filled. Applications are actively sought from women and minorities.

BSU practices equal opportunity in education and employment.
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#697
Date:         Tue, 18 Jul 1995 18:10:06 -0400
From:         William Livingood 
Subject:      Re: American Health Education Association Alternative

Mike:
        For purposes of clarification, SOPHE has undertaken major changes
that:
        1) significantly increased its membership in the last 9 months
and reflects SOPHE plans to expand its membership extensively in the
immediate and long range future;
        2) will result in a move to the Washington, DC area in the next 6
to 10 months, with a major purpose of increasing advocacy and networking
for the profession;
        3) involes the hiring of a full time paid executive director and
staff to better serve its members, the profession and society.  This is a
major shift from an executive director who currently serves in a totally
voluntary capacity.

        These changes hardly reflect an organization that is mired in the
status quo as your message seens to suggest.

        You seem to think that forming a new organization will solve
health education's problems as a profession.  I'd like to suggest the
reading of The System of Professions by Abbott for more insights about
what health education must do to become a more recognized profession.

                                Bill
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#698
Date:         Tue, 18 Jul 1995 19:57:17 -0600
From:         Craig Domeyer 

To
Subject: Netscape Road Map Order Form

    Thank you for your interest in the "Netscape Road Map" workshop
manual.  Over 400 have been mailed to various universities, high schools,
elementary schools, and businesses throughout the world.

     I am a California Technology Telementor.  This manual was written to
help first-time users of Netscape quickly learn its basic functions.  It
can be used independently, or as a guide within a workshop or classroom
setting.  It is written in simple terms and can be easily understood.

     The manual can be used by itself, however, I have also produced
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used in the Road Map problem.  If you are a presenter or trainer, I would
recommend that you order both the overheads and the disks.

The manual is divided into 7 basic chapters called tours.

Table of Contents

I.   Netscape Tour Map
II.  Menu's of Netscape
III. Welcome to Netscape Home Page
IV.  Button's of Netscape
V.   Road Map Tours
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       a.  How to Register
       b.  To get the most recent copy
       c.  Basic features
       d.  Online handbook
       e.  Placing netscape under the apple menu
     Tour 2.  Exploring the internet
       a.  Whats new
       b.  Whats cool
       c.  About the internet
     Tour 3.  The Internet Directory
       a.  Museums
       b.  Education
       c.  Humanities
       d.  Science
     Tour 4.  Internet search
       a.  Open by URL
       b.  By name
       c.  By subject
     Tour 5.  The Netscape Road Map
       a.  Bookmarks
       b.  Favorite sites
     Tour 6.  Accessing Newsgroups
       a.  Subscribing
       b.  Posting
     Tour 7.  Resources for Creating your Home Page

VI.  Glossary


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#699
Date:         Tue, 18 Jul 1995 10:23:13 CST
From:         Bill Cissell 
Subject:      AHEA Dreamscape

Michael, the plan of action you advocate is needed.  I believe that both SOPHE
and AAHE are at better places to pursue the planning about which you are
talking than they have ever been.  Your recommendation that an outside
consultant be employed to help the profession do some effective strategic
planning has great merit.  It should be pressed with the leadership of the
current professional organizations in our field, with the National Coalition
and with the National Commission for Health Education Credentialing.  All of
these have an important role to play in advancing our profession.

The idea of establishing ANOTHER health education professional society has
been
attempted several times in the past.  You may think you are talking a new
paradigm, but so did the founders of SOPHE and the founders of AWHP.  Neither
of these organizations captured the vast majority of professional health
educators as members.  Neither will your proposed AHEA.

I am reminded of the establishment of the Council for Health Education
Programs
in Higher Education.  It was established to help chairs, heads or directors of
health education programs in higher education address the problems they face.
It has representation from possibly half of the programs that prepare
professional health educators, but its resources are meager, its clout is
almost none, and the dream of its founders is still highly elusive.

I still contend that AHEA will be yet ANOTHER professional organization that
will slow the progress of health education in establishing itself as a
profession with clout.

Bill Cissell   D_Cissell@Venus.twu.edu
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#700
Date:         Wed, 19 Jul 1995 10:38:43 -0700
From:         "Andrew Jenkins (Central Washington University)"
              
Subject:      Friday Inspiration

Friends,

I'm finally out for the summer so this will be my last "Friday
Inspiration" message till late September.

Last summer, I attended a story telling session with the daughter of Vi
Hilbert, the most respected native storyteller in our region.  As a
preface to her story telling session, she emphasized the power of stories,
the enlightenment they bring us, and the respect they command.  In the
Lushootseed tradition stories are gifts and should be retold accurately
and with credit to the originator.  With this in mind, I would like to
share with you'all my favorite and most cherished story of POSITIVE
THINKING:

**********************

                              Roman Wahl's Story

Roman Wahl was a delightful client I had while working at an upscale
athletic/social club in an affluent suburb of Seattle.  Roman was a
Polish immigrant and spoke in a heavy but pleasant accent.  He was a frail,
70 year old man with a body the size of a twelve year old boy.  Although
he wheezed with every breath due to his advanced emphysemia, he spoke
softly and smiled a huge toothy grin at everyone and everything that gave
him the slightest joy in his advancing years.

One day, I was coaching him on an exercise bike.  He had "bad knees" and
our lesson focused on knees and his creeping arthritis.  I had knee
trouble too (from sports) and, thinking we had this in common, I asked him
how his knee trouble started but I did not get the answer I had expected.

He explained to me that he was a young flyer during the German envasion of
Poland at the beginning of WWII.  He was shot down and placed in a prison
camp.  He lived there two years under deplorable conditions.  He told me
an amazing tale of escape, survival, and of sneaking across Europe to
England where he joined the British in their own fight against Germany.
Now in the Royal Air Force, he flew again against the Germans and, once
again, he was shot down.

He was expected to winter out the war in captivity but it was soon
learned that he was an escapee.  Assembly was called and he was dragged
out in front of his comrades.  As an example to others, the Nazis broke
his knees with a cricket bat.

I was shocked, I was speechless!  This was not the memory I had intended
to bring up!  What does one say in response to such a story?

Moments passed and we both nodded knowingly (the way men do) as he
remembered his pain and I imagined the horrible scene:  A rainy winter's
day, my frail little friend, a broken man with broken legs, alone in the
mud in front of a hundred men--all unable to help him...

To break the uncomfortable silence and to bring a more positive note back
to the conversation I looked about the room at all the fancy decor, the
ferns, the chrome, the expensive equipment and well dressed people and I
asked him:

"Roman, in your deepest, darkest hour of dispair, did you ever, ever,
think you'd end up in a place like this, paying a guy like me money to
help you exercise?"

He thought about only for an instant and then, with his heavy Polish
accent and big, wide grin, he said, "Yes, Yes, Andy, I did...I really did."



And that is Roman Wahl's Story.

*********************



Keeping the dream.

Andrew P Jenkins, PhD
Central Washington University
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#701
Date:         Wed, 19 Jul 1995 18:50:46 EST5EDT
From:         ROBERT SKIP VALOIS 
Organization: School of Public Health
Subject:      Dr. Bob Gold & Recovery

To:  Firends and Colleagues of Dr. Bob Gold

From:  Robert "Skip" Valois & Bill Zimmerli

Just recently, Bob Gold had some pretty serious surgery on both hips
involving replacement and bone grafting.  Most apsects went well,  however
on one hip a pretty serious infection has developed.  Bob is pretty "down"
from this ordeal and could use some "cheering up."  He will be
recooperating at home for an extended period of time.  A card or
letter would be good for his spirits.  His home address is:

Robert S. Gold
1000 N. Quantico St.
Arlington, VA  22205

Let's hope Bob has a speedy recovery.
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#702
Date:         Wed, 19 Jul 1995 16:04:50 -0700
From:         Holly Lenz 
Subject:      Re: your mail
In-  <9507190100.AA19761@ucs.orst.edu>

Regarding Mr. Domeyer's commercial plug for his "product"..
Today I received the third notice on it...
I do not feel that this list is an appropriate place for
his heavy handed marketing blitz.

Sell it somewhere else Mr. Domeyer.

H. Lenz
Oregon State University
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#703
Date:         Thu, 20 Jul 1995 12:05:13 U
From:         Fulop Mark 
Subject:      Re: Junk mail?

Criag, Isn't there some netiquette about advertising on lists?

mark
________________________________________________________
To: Multiple recipients of list HEDIR
From: Craig Domeyer on Tue, Jul 18, 1995 6:03 PM


>If you would like a copy, please send the following order form together
>with your check to:
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#704
Date:         Thu, 20 Jul 1995 21:58:31 -0600
From:         romance@IN.THE.FORMER.USSR.UA
Subject:      letter from Olga!  =) (Unverified)

     Not to long ago, I posted a message re: meeting women of the former
soviet union through romance ads.

     In August, Olga will travel to Moscow from her home in Kiev, Ukraine.
In Moscow, Olga will have a much easier and cost efficient means to place
your personal romance ad throughout Russia.

Last week I received the following from Olga:

     "I have already sent your ad to the papers in such towns: Moscow,
St. Petersburg, Vladimir, Kazan.  At nearest future I will send your ad to the
paper in some more 12 towns of Russia, where papers are published.
     Some times (in winter, spring & now) I placed your ad in other papers,
but they are not most popular paper in Moscow and some large cities of Russia.
     Besides, I am continuing to place your ad in papers of Ukraine.  I
promise to place your ad in some other papers when I will come to Moscow in
August.  I am glad that you have received fairly many letters from Russian &
Ukrainian girls and I think you will received some more ones and will find
your ideal in my country soon.
     I thank you very much ones more for your kindness & your help.
My best wishes,

Olga"

     This isn't a scam - call it panhandling if you want. . . I sent her $40
or $50 and I've received over 45 responses.  Unlike placing romance ads in
the U.S., women from the former USSR respond.  Although one would guess the
are doing so in the hopes of American citizenship, I haven't found it so.

     Olga lives in Kiev, Ukraine (population 3 million) and will travel to
Moscow in August to visit her father.  If you were to send a letter this
week, she would receive it in time.  The population of Moscow is 10 million
-- (3 times the size of Los Angeles.)

     Feel free to send a letter and ask her your questions.  She will be happy
to respond.

Olga's address:

Ukraine
Kiev 253121
Dekabristov Street 5 - 178
Olga Kozmina

     I am posting anonymously because of the flames and volume of inquiries
that would result otherwise.  I think those who are truely interested will
take the time to write.
_____________________________________________________________________________
To: probable flamer
Subject: polite note

     Although Olga has never seen a newsgroup nor heard of "net-etiquette,"
she believes that offering lonely singles the possibility of romance exceeds
the cost of angering those who feel the net shouldn't be used in this fashion.
     IHA (I humbly ask) that you not flame the postmaster of this site.

peace. . .
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#705
Date:         Fri, 21 Jul 1995 08:30:00 EST
From:         Isabel Burk 
Subject:      Olga---?

FROM: Burk, Isabel
TO: SMTP:HEDIR@SIUCVMB.BITNET
CC:
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Date: 07-21-95   08:22 EST
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RE: Olga in USSR

What on earth is this doing in my mail?

I believe that this is an inappropriate message for our forum.  I hope that no
further messages of this type are posted, for they not only clutter up
mailboxes across the country, but they are not related to our mission.

I don't consider my reply flaming, but rather it's a general response to
intrusive mail that belongs on the general internet, not on a special interest
service like this.

Isabel Burk
Putnam/No. Westchester BOCES, Yorktown Heights, NY
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#706
Date:         Fri, 21 Jul 1995 09:13:25 -0400
From:         AAHE 
Subject:      reimbursement of health education

see message below

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There has been a recent call for health educators and their professional
organizations to become involved with advocacy and to improve the lot of
health education as a component of health care and disease prevention.
There is no reason to wait until Oct. or Nov. when the discussion is now. If
you are interested in issues such as reimbursement, maximizing health
education programs in health care settings, reshaping professional
preparation for practitioners, and advocacy, advocacy, advocacy - we urge
you to attend the 5th Annual Summer Institute to be conducted by the
Association for the Advancement of Health Education.

Topic: The Role of Health Education in a Changing Health
          Care Environment
Dates: August 3-5, 1995
Place: Newport Beach, California
To register: Phone 703-476-3437
CHES Type I credit hours - 17

Your professional associations are concerned about and active in
advancing both the practice of health education and the practitioners of
health education - including third party reimbursement for health
education services. NOW is the opportunity for those of you who are also
concerned and wish to become active in advocacy to come and join with your
peers to:
    1.  Identify the critical issues for health educators in developing
the role and new vision of health education within all health care settings.
    2.  Determine the professional preparation needs for health educators
to function optimally as part of the health care team.
    3.  Formulate advocacy plans to promote health education as an
essential component of health care.

Now is the time for those of you who want to provide active leadership in
these areas to come out and join together in promoting the profession at
this critical juncture in the evolution of health care in the U.S. We
hope to see those of you who WANT ACTION - to BE THERE - SEE YOU IN
CALIFORNIA -AUGUST 3-5, 1995 !
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#707
Date:         Fri, 21 Jul 1995 09:33:12 -0400
From:         AAHE 
Subject:      Reimbursement for Health Education

There has been a recent call for health educators and their professional
organizations to become involved with advocacy and to improve the lot of
health education as a component of health care and disease prevention.
There is  no reason to wait until October or November when the discussion
is now.  If you are interested in issues such as reimbursement,
maximizing health education programs in health care settings, reshaping
professional preparation for practitioners, and advocacy, - we urge you
to attend the 5th Annual Summer Institute to be conducted by the
Association for the Advancement of Health Education.

Topic:  The Role of Health Education in a Changing Health Care Environment
Dates: August 3-5, 1995
Place: Newport Beach, California
To Register:  Phone 703/476-3437
CHES Type I Credit hours - 17

Your professional associations are concerned about and active in
advancing both the practice of health education and the practitioners of
health education - including third party reimbursement for health
education services.  NOW is the opportunity for those of you who are also
concerned and wish to become active in advocacy to come and join with
your peers to:
1.  Identify the critical issues for health educators in developing the
role and new vision of health education within all health care settings.
2.  Determine the professional preparation needs for health educators to
function optimally as part of the health care team.
3.  Formulate advocacy plans to promote health education as an essential
component of health care.

Now is the time for those of you who want to provide active leadership in
these areas to come out and join together in promoting the profession at
this critical juncture in the evolution of health care in the U.S.  We
hope to see those of you who WANT ACTION - TO BE THERE - SEE YOU IN
CALIFORNIA - AUGUST 3-5, 1995!!
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#708
Date:         Sat, 22 Jul 1995 11:43:50 -0400
From:         Andrea Frank 
Subject:      AHEA/insurance reimbursement

An article in JAMA recently noted that due to trends toward managed care,
there will be a surplus of 163,000 physicians in the U.S. by the year 2000.
 Just what do you think those physicians are going to do with themselves?
 Doctors have already seen the handwriting on the wall and are going after
the "wellness lifestyle" business.

Two years ago I attended a seminar lead by a physician who is nationally
prominent in the smoking cessation area, Dr. Michael Fiore.  I was the only
non-physician in the audience.  Fiore's message was:  "We must medicalize
smoking cessation programs and put ALL smokers under physician supervision so
doctors can get insurance reimbursement for smoking cessation counseling."
 -- In other words, turn smoking into a disease that can only be treated
under a doctor's care.  In my usual thorn in the side capacity, Dr. Fiore was
visibly uncomfortable when I raised my hand and pointed out that since 90% or
more of smokers quit without the aid of an expensive formal program, putting
prevention dollars toward de-medicalized grassroots approaches would be more
cost effective and sensible.  He ignored my comment and continued on in the
same vein.

When we advocate health insurance reimbursement for health education, what we
are really advocating is turning wellness education into yet another disease
treatment modality under physician supervision.  If you think health
educators will be in control of this process, think again.  We will be just
like registered dieticians, who know infinitely more about nutrition than
physicians, yet are subject to the largesse of physicians for their survival.
(And with 163,000 excess physicians fighting over patients, how generous will
they be in their referrals to us when they can bill for physician-provided
health education services?)

More pragmatically, the current push for containing health care costs makes
it unlikely that yet another category of reimbursable services will be
approved in the near future.   For example, even under extreme circumstances,
education rendered by an R.D. is seldom reimburseable right now.  Under our
current "health care-less" system, I know a woman who's schizophrenic but
lucid and undergoing chemotherapy for a recurrence of breast cancer.  Yet
there has been NO attempt to provide or obtain approval for dietary
counseling for either her or her family.  My father also was recently
diagnosed with sprue, and despite the fact that his one session with the
dietician was physician referred, he and the physician fought with Medicare
for 3 months to get reimbursement.

Can health educators compete with 163,000 MDs, not to mention nurses,
psychologists, registered dieticians, physical therapists, social workers, ad
nauseum?  Do we want to?  Is it in the public's best interest to even try?
 Running scared and falling back on a worn-out medical paradigm isn't the
answer.  Why not market what we do best and most uniquely as health
educators: primary prevention and encouraging community and personal
empowerment for health, and being a consumer and patient advocate,
facilitating informed personal and community health decision-making.

One of the hallmarks of professionals is their autonomy.  Insurance
reimbursement rather than strengthening our professional status is more
likely to guarantee that we will languish forever in the limbo-land of
physician-supervised paraprofessionalism.  Indeed, insurance reimbursement
for health education may sound the very death knell for our "profession."

Andrea Frank
Milwaukee, Wis
andyfrank@aol.com
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#709
Date:         Sat, 22 Jul 1995 12:45:50 -0700
From:         Robert Collins 
Subject:      Re: AHEA/insurance reimbursement
In-  <9507221545.AA23666@mx5.u.washington.edu>

Thanks for the jolt of reality... I hope you will be able to share this
perception at both the AAHE Summer Institute in early August and at the
fall SOPHE/APHA conferences.  Health educators have been fighting for
survival for over 30 years that I'm aware of and I'm sure neither our
effectiveness nor our survival will be enhanced by hanging onto the
physician's coattails.  I am hoping that our fragmented professional
membership organizations can coalesce to become much stronger advocates
for those things you described that we do best.

We have a role in the managed care setting, but that is not the only or
the most important venue for health education services.  Thanks for
sharing your perception and hopefully triggering some thoughtful discussion.

Ciao!  Bob

Bob Collins                                     206-545-3586
Center for Studies in Health Education          collinsb@u.washington.edu
University of Washington

On Sat, 22 Jul 1995, Andrea Frank wrote:

> An article in JAMA recently noted that due to trends toward managed care,
> there will be a surplus of 163,000 physicians in the U.S. by the year 2000.
>  Just what do you think those physicians are going to do with themselves?
>  Doctors have already seen the handwriting on the wall and are going after
> the "wellness lifestyle" business.
>
> Two years ago I attended a seminar lead by a physician who is nationally
> prominent in the smoking cessation area, Dr. Michael Fiore.  I was the only
> non-physician in the audience.  Fiore's message was:  "We must medicalize
> smoking cessation programs and put ALL smokers under physician supervision
so
> doctors can get insurance reimbursement for smoking cessation counseling."
>  -- In other words, turn smoking into a disease that can only be treated
> under a doctor's care.  In my usual thorn in the side capacity, Dr. Fiore
was
> visibly uncomfortable when I raised my hand and pointed out that since 90%
or
> more of smokers quit without the aid of an expensive formal program, putting
> prevention dollars toward de-medicalized grassroots approaches would be more
> cost effective and sensible.  He ignored my comment and continued on in the
> same vein.
>
> When we advocate health insurance reimbursement for health education, what
we
> are really advocating is turning wellness education into yet another disease
> treatment modality under physician supervision.  If you think health
> educators will be in control of this process, think again.  We will be just
> like registered dieticians, who know infinitely more about nutrition than
> physicians, yet are subject to the largesse of physicians for their
survival.
> (And with 163,000 excess physicians fighting over patients, how generous
will
> they be in their referrals to us when they can bill for physician-provided
> health education services?)
>
> More pragmatically, the current push for containing health care costs makes
> it unlikely that yet another category of reimbursable services will be
> approved in the near future.   For example, even under extreme
circumstances,
> education rendered by an R.D. is seldom reimburseable right now.  Under our
> current "health care-less" system, I know a woman who's schizophrenic but
> lucid and undergoing chemotherapy for a recurrence of breast cancer.  Yet
> there has been NO attempt to provide or obtain approval for dietary
> counseling for either her or her family.  My father also was recently
> diagnosed with sprue, and despite the fact that his one session with the
> dietician was physician referred, he and the physician fought with Medicare
> for 3 months to get reimbursement.
>
> Can health educators compete with 163,000 MDs, not to mention nurses,
> psychologists, registered dieticians, physical therapists, social workers,
ad
> nauseum?  Do we want to?  Is it in the public's best interest to even try?
>  Running scared and falling back on a worn-out medical paradigm isn't the
> answer.  Why not market what we do best and most uniquely as health
> educators: primary prevention and encouraging community and personal
> empowerment for health, and being a consumer and patient advocate,
> facilitating informed personal and community health decision-making.
>
> One of the hallmarks of professionals is their autonomy.  Insurance
> reimbursement rather than strengthening our professional status is more
> likely to guarantee that we will languish forever in the limbo-land of
> physician-supervised paraprofessionalism.  Indeed, insurance reimbursement
> for health education may sound the very death knell for our "profession."
>
> Andrea Frank
> Milwaukee, Wis
> andyfrank@aol.com
>
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#710
Date:         Sun, 23 Jul 1995 15:39:04 CST
From:         Youmas Siewe 
Subject:      Reimbursement

This is in response to Andy Frank's note of 7/22 concerning the issue
of reimbursement for Health Educators. The note was read with delight and
interpreted as a course in "Reality Orientation 101" in regards to who
controls reimbursement in the health care industry.
  Andy, your ideas were insightful and probably contrary to Michael Pejsach's
suggestions of 7/18. The therapeutic concept of wellness and lifestyle in
health care is definitely in the turf of Health Educators and should be
protected. Challenging intruders (the medical profession) for intruding
in a terrain long ignored on the front-line of cost-effective health care
delivery will be a worthwhile and courageous undertaking. You started the
fight 2 years ago at the conference where you were the lone non-medical
participant, challenging Dr. Michael Fiore. We should all do it this time!
    Health Educators are not responsible for the probable excess of 163,000
physicians by the year 2000. It's the outcome of a free market economy where
consumer decides what to consume and when. Our cake is now favored!
    The obvious economic and numerical might of the AMA schouldn't scare
Health Educators. Maybe we all need to remember the biblical story of
David and Goliath; maybe have this as a make-up class in "Reality
Reorientation
102". The timing is just perfect. Thanks.
    Written comments should be forwarded to:
          Youmasu J. Siewe
          Dept. of Health Educ.& Rec.
          SIU-C, Carbondale, IL 62901
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#711
Date:         Sun, 23 Jul 1995 19:40:53 -0400
From:         Michael Pejsach 
Subject:      Re: AHEA/insurance reimbursement

As I indicated in a previous message, I, too, heard it first hand:  At a town
meeting at East Jefferson General Hospital (note: I worked there and made
$300,000 in profit on a prevention/wellness program---note- EJGH is a
non-profit community owned hospital. I left ot only because I had a better
offer, but was a lone voice on the fact that such a program was more than
marketing medical services. It was a product in and of itself.  No one
believed me.  "What is that you were saying, duh, health education?  What the
heck is that?" ), the CEO noted that due to this thing we call "managed care"
insurance providers will only pay a set amount (called capping, or capped
revenue) for a certain amount of subscribers. It would then be up to the
hospital to take care of them. Obviously this is not new and means prevention
and health promotion.  I listened carefully and was flabbergasted when the
CEO added: "Our physicians will learn how to keep our patients healthy. We
have to keep them healthy so we remain viable.  The physicians will play an
important part in all of this."  I was sitting with the former medical
director, looked over at him and said "Docs are not trained to do prevention.
It'll never work."  His face turned red with what I suppose was anger.   EJGH
is one of the biggest hospitals and profitable (non-profit community
hospital) in the area.  I was the only health educator and the only one
tooting the horn for "what do you call 'em?" health edcuators.

In response to:
"Can health educators compete with 163,000 MDs, not to mention nurses,
psychologists, registered dieticians, physical therapists, social workers, ad
nauseum?  Do we want to?  Is it in the public's best interest to even try?
 Running scared and falling back on a worn-out medical paradigm isn't the
answer.  Why not market what we do best and most uniquely as health
educators: primary prevention and encouraging community and personal
empowerment for health, and being a consumer and patient advocate,
facilitating informed personal and community health decision-making."

If we don't start to compete, where are we?  You've mentioned all of the
health professionals that have ONE professional organization and have a
chance at surviving the current unrest/cycle(?) in health care. They know who
they are and have the support of their organs. to promote thier profession.
 We are nowhere in the mix!
As far as what's good for the public: Do we want ill-prepared, "psuedo-health
educators" (see my example of the Docs, above) providing disease prevention
and health promotion?  They will be the ones unless we put up a fight!!!  Do
you think that the insurane companies and other will all-of-a-sudden take
note of how wondeful we've been (we have!) and then inlcude us?
We are the ones trained to empower and to facilitate "personal community
health decision-making," and I agree that's the right thing to do.  BUT, how
many of the other health professionals on your list have that as their
mission?  Shouldn't we fight for this mission?  If we aren't organized as ONE
profession with ONE mission, under ONE organization, will anyone listen?  Are
we really competing, or are we defending our principles and standards of
health promotion and disease prevention?!

No...reimbursement doesn't mean medical model!  That connection is slowly
becoming untied as health care changes.  Everything is reimburseable now:
transportation, devices, home visits, etc.  More disease prevention will be
in the future.  WHY NOT HEALTH ED?!  Think out of the box:  health educators
are, or should/could be, the primary provider of disease prevention and
health promotion.  Why aren't we paid for it.

Almost all the big health insurance companies PAY for disease prevention NOW
(AETNA, et al). WE NEED TO CONVINCE THEM TO PAY US NOT OTHERS!  IT IS,
HOWEVER, UNLIKELY THAT THEY WILL LISTEN TO A COALITION. THEY LISTEN TO POWER;
THEY LISTEN TO REPRESENTATIVE ORGANIZATIONS; THEY LISTEN.  WE AREN'T
ORGANIZED -ENOUGH- TO EVEN BEGIN TO TALK WITH THESE POWERFUL GROUPS WHO ARE
IN THE HEALTH CARE DRIVERS SEAT RIGHT NOW.
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#712
Date:         Mon, 24 Jul 1995 12:04:27 -0400
From:         Andrea Frank 
Subject:      Reply to Pejasch Post of 7/23

I think several key points were missed by Michael Pejasch on 7/23 in replying
to my (Andy Frank) post of 7/22.  Perhaps a few more misconceptions need to
be clarified before others join in the dialogue.

Michael writes:
>>>EJGH is a non-profit community owned hospital. I left not only because I
had a better offer, but was a lone voice on the fact that such a program was
more than marketing medical services. It was a product in and of itself.  No
one believed me.>>>

If health educators leave a job every time they are a "lone voice," most of
us will never retain employment in the field.  Health education conducted in
the health care sector has served primarily a marketing function for years.
 I managed health promotion programs and consulted with the HMO industry for
some time and discovered quickly that except for a few non-profit staff model
plans. (e.g. Kaiser-Permanente, Group Health Cooperative) prevention services
offered by HMOs are marketing ploys, limited to childhood immunizations,
prenatal classes, quickie HRAs, and  mini "lunch and learn" sessions, if
that.  It is a myth that the federal legislation creating HMOs mandated
health education services.  That part of the legislation was removed before
the legislation was passed in the 70's.  Thus, health education services have
become a loss leader in health care markets where multiple HMOs and hospitals
are competing for the same scarce patient base.

Michael says no one at the hospital would believe health education was a
product in and of itself.  Why should they?  A fundamental tenet of marketing
is an exchange of services based on mutual need - to provide a service that
fulfills the customer's wants and needs at a price that fairly recompenses
the service provider. I've been involved in several health promotion
marketing surveys for HMOs in various parts of the country.  These and other
surveys repeatedly demonstrate that the general public is unwilling to pay
more than nominal fees for health education services, and that most people
either aren't interested or able to take the time to attend a group class.
 In addition, the "profit margin" on these classes when compared to other
hospital services is very small.  One multi-session smoking cessation or
weight loss program can't generate the revenue of even a single catscan or
MRI.  Hospitals that have successfully "marketed" health education services
have generally focused on expensive in-hospital smoking or weight loss
programs (built on an in-patient drug treatment model) or built upscale
exercise clubs catering to the yuppie market.  This provides jobs for
community health educators, and these are services that "sell," but are these
the health education services that are in society's best interests and those
that are most "needed" by the community?

>>>the CEO noted that due to this thing we call "managed care"
insurance providers will only pay a set amount (called capping, or capped
revenue) for a certain amount of subscribers.  It would then be up to the
hospital to take care of them. Obviously this is not new and means prevention
and health promotion.>>>

The terms here are incorrectly defined.  Capped revenue or capping occurs
when an insurance company establishes a fixed allowable reimbursement level
for various hospital services:  e.g. no more than $2000 for an uncomplicated
delivery, $1000 for a tonsillectomy, etc.  This is a pre-determined
contractual fee for service arrangement made by insurance companies with
hospitals.  If there are complications or a person is discharged and requires
re-hospitalization, the hospital qualifies for additional reimbursement.
There is NO inherent incentive for providing health education services under
this system.  In fact, these days most people are so ill and quickly
discharged while they are in the hospital, that they would be unable to fully
process a health education message through the blur of pain and drugs.

CAPITATION is very different.  I am unaware of any hospital that operates on
the capitation system Michael described but misnamed.  Specific to managed
care, capitation refers to a set amount that is generally given to primary
care physicians on contract with HMOs to provide services to HMO patients,
whether those docs ever treat these patients or not.  Because employers and
the general public frequently switch health plans after a year or two, there
is no incentive for these docs or plans to provide smoking cessation
services, for example, because the long cancer "incubation period" means that
by the time a person gets lung cancer or a heart attack, etc., some other
health plan or Medicare will be picking up the tab.  There is virtually no
short or long term return-on-investment health education incentive for any
individual health plan, except in the short term case of pregnancies, hence
the prominence of childbirth education programs.

This may sound like a cold and calculating business decision, but it is the
explanation I've been given again and again as I've repeated tried to "sell"
health education to upper management in the HMO industry.  I have seen no
evidence that the connection between reimbursement and the medical model is
in any significant way "becoming untied as health care changes" as Michael
asserts.

Michael continues:

>>>If we don't start to compete, where are we?  ... As far as what's good for
the public: Do we want ill-prepared, "psuedo-health educators" (see my
example of the Docs, above) providing disease prevention and health
promotion?  They will be the ones unless we put up a fight!!! ...  We are the
ones trained to empower and to facilitate "personal community health
decision-making," and I agree that's the right thing to do.  BUT, how many of
the other health professionals on your list have that as their mission? ...
Think out of the box:  health educators are, or should/could be, the primary
provider of disease prevention and health promotion.  Why aren't we paid for
it.>>>

Michael's passion and allegiance to the profession here is obvious and
admirable, but passion and loyalty won't carry the day for me.  I'm deeply
troubled by the reference to "pseudo-health educators" and the suggestion
that the public interest would be best served by creating YET ANOTHER
professional monopoly.  There are many levels and avenues of health
education. Professional jealousies aside, do we really want to make it
illegal for a doctor or nurse to provide smoking cessation advice to
patients?  To be prosecuted for practicing health education without a
license?  (Unless it becomes illegal and penalties are enforced, what's to
stop them from competing with us?).  Is this scenario in the public's best
interest or merely the best interest of health educators?

Furthermore, Michael says that "We are the ones trained to empower and to
facilitate "personal community health decision-making," ... but in fact WE
(health educators) usually haven't been trained to truly empower the public.
 Public health has a notorious paternalistic past, with an embedded attitude
of "I know what's best for your health, even if you don't."  The health
police are everywhere including, I'm sorry to say, some within our own
professional ranks.  The growing movement to penalize selected "unhealthy
lifestyles" through higher insurance premiums along with an abdication of
social responsibility for health is antithetical to American democratic
ideals and the preservation of civil liberties.  This development in society
and our field should give all of us extended pause for thought.   Using
external coercive means to manipulate health behavior under the guise of
promoting personal responsibility for health is NOT empowerment.   THIS and
the competitive practice of health professionals profiteering at the expense
of the public's health is the box we must get out of, and university based
training programs for health educators are just barely beginning to examine
these issues and the ethical implications of our professional practices.
 (But KUDOS to us -- we are beginning to engage our powers of critical
thinking!).

Michael also misconstrues what I meant when I advocated individual and
community empowerment for health.  An empowerment paradigm would focus on
grassroots community empowerment for health, and facilitate self-directed
learning approaches (after all, 90% or more of people who make healthy
lifestyle changes do so on their own, while we as a profession typically
concentrate on providing carbon copy group instruction to the other 10%, with
an emphasis on educational adherence and teacher compliance).  Insurance
reimbursement for health education services inherently focuses on the latter
"same-old, same-old" dependence on the paternalistic expertise of a
professional, rather than concentrating on grassroots community or personal
empowerment.

I personally believe a move toward insurance reimbursement for health ed
would be a professionally self-serving act, contrary to the public interest.
  Additionally, basic principles of marketing tell us that if we solely
confine ourselves to the preservation of professional self-interests rather
than meeting the true needs of the community (aren't we supposed to be
COMMUNITY health educators?), we will doom "duh-health education" to
extinction.  We can't survive by trying to create a need where none exists or
going head to head with an overwhelming number of professional competitors,
but we can and will survive by niche marketing - identifying unmet community
needs that are already present and creatively applying our professional
strengths to uniquely meet them.

Andrea Frank
Milwaukee, Wis
andyfrank@aol.com
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#713
Date:         Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:27 CST
From:         Bill Cissell 
Subject:      Clarity of the Reimbursement Issues

Andy, You sure say well some things that have needed to be said.  You give us
a
reminder of what we have been and where we should be headed with our
profession.  I believe I am one of many who appreciate your comments and
believe that we should give you additional opportunities to express them.
Hopefully, conference program planners and journal editors are reading your
comments with an interest similar to mine.

May you enjoy the best of health and much happiness!

Bill Cissell     D_Cisssell@venus.twu.edu
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#714
Date:         Tue, 25 Jul 1995 19:25:28 -0700
From:         Lawrence Green 
Subject:      Re: publication (fwd)

Forwarding message below.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 13:32:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Anne George 
To: Lawrence Green 
Subject: Re: publication (fwd)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 01:08:22 +1000
From: Anne George 
To: Multiple recipients of list 
Subject: Re: publication

Arlist subscribers:

Bob Dick suggested that I post this message to arlist-l.

I thought some of you may be interested in a report written by us at the
Institute of Health Promotion Research at the University of British
Columbia. It reports the work of a year-long study on participatory
research and its value to the field of health promotion in Canada.  It
was funded by a number of funding agencies (government and
non-government) who wanted guidance in understanding the value of
participatory research and some guidance on the components of
participatory research in order to be better informed when asked
to fund such projects.

The report is entitled Study of Participatory Research in Health Promotion:
Review and Recommendations for the Development of Participatory REsearch
in Health Promotion in Canada.

It is available in French and English (but I will refrain from giving you
the French title).

Although much of the report is review (literature review, long
bibliography, review of what Canadians are doing in the field), there is
an important section on guidelines for participatory research.  These
were derived from a lengthy process of studying the literature and
discussions with people across Canada (both theorists and practitioners
of participatory research - most people, of course, being both).
>From  this, we came up with elements which we believe reflect what
participatory researchers should at least acknowledge, if not include in
projects. Although intended for use by funders, it has proven useful
for those doing projects as well.

The report is available from its sponsor and publisher, The Royal Society
of Canada, for $15 a copy (or $10 is more than 10 are ordered) plus postage.
I can have an order form sent to anyone interested.

Anne George
Institute of Health Promotion Research
The University of British Columbia
6248 Biological Sciences Road
Vancouver, B.C., Canada V6T-1Z4
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#715
Date:         Tue, 25 Jul 1995 23:58:53 -0700
From:         Anne George 
Subject:      Re: publication (fwd)
In-  

Larry et al:

In the past week, 12 people from around the world have ordered copies of
the report through this list.

Anne
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#716
Date:         Thu, 27 Jul 1995 08:15:38 PDT
From:         Laura_Donahue@BROOKSCOLE.COM
Subject:      Health Review

Prof. Kittleson gave me permission to put the following bulletin out to get
reviewers.

Contact me if be interested in reviewing three chapters (about 80
pages) for Hales'INVITATION TO HEALTH. They are the nutrition, eating
disorders
and weight management chapters.  We are looking for a detailed, helpful
content
review. We need users of the book and non-users. The review is due in three
weeks and the honorarium is $90.  Let me know if you would be interested or
have any questions.

Thanks
Laura Donahue
Editorial Assistant to Marianne Taflinger
Laura_Donahue@brookscole.com
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#717
Date:         Thu, 27 Jul 1995 10:34:28 -0500
From:         "Renae D. Cunnien, Ph.D." 
Subject:      Health Review

 To: VAX8998 --VAXDEV

 *** Reply to note of 07/27/95 10:29
 From: Renae D. Cunnien, Ph.D.
      Patient Education
      2-8138 or 2-8644
 Subject: Health Review
 I am interested in reviewing. I am a non-user of the text but have experience
 in teaching these topics and I see patients (as a patient ed. specialist,
Mayo
 Clinic Scottsdale,Ph.D. in Health Ed.) with these conditions.

 Let me know if you are interested......RENAE CUNNIEN
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#718
Date:         Thu, 27 Jul 1995 23:05:51 -0400
From:         Sona Thakkar 
Subject:      Help: Ideas for thesis research (Worksite Health Promotion?)

I am currently a Master's student at the University of Maryland about to
embark on that dreaded adventure of starting (and hopefully finishing soon)
my Master's thesis.  After taking my classes and being interested in almost
everything, I think I have narrowed it down to a few possibilities.  I am
very interested in Worksite Health Promotion, especially in the Washington,
D.C./Baltimore areas, and I would really like to do something with this
topic.  Of course, I have no idea what.  I was thinking that I might want to
research the opinions of physicians about worksite health and if they believe
it can do good.  Also, I am interested in the best ways to promote this type
of health education to more companies in the area (Yes, I guess that is more
marketing, than health education).  Anyway, if anyone out there is currently
doing worksite health and have any ideas for me to consider for doing my
thesis research, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you.

I am also interested primarily in cardiovascular health, with special regards
to nutrition education.  A few other interests of mine include women's
health, community health, and maternal and child health.

If anyone can help me with any of these topics, please Email me at
SThakkar@aol.com or through the listserve.

I would greatly appreciate any ideas!

















                                                                         Sona
S. Thakkar





















                                                                     Master's
student























                                                                   University
of Maryland
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#719
Date:         Sun, 30 Jul 1995 17:38:20 -0400
From:         Michael Pejsach 
Subject:      Re: Reply to Pejasch Post of 7/23 via ANDY FRANK

RE: Frank's "response"

Date:  Sun, Jul 30, 1995 5:37 PM EDT
From:  MPejsach
Subj:  Re: Reply to Pejasch Post of 7/23
To:      Andyfrank

You've pulled a Pat Robertson on me and others: you've taken things out of
context.  It's a pretty dirty trick, don't you think?
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#720
Date:         Sun, 30 Jul 1995 19:53:22 -0400
From:         Michael Pejsach 
Subject:      AHEA Life Memberships et al

Someone asked "why would anyone join another organization if they're already
a life member of AAHE or SOPHE?"

As I write the business plan and complete the incorporation papers for AHEA,
 THE health education organization we all need (not another health ed
organization), I wonder if we can get those life membership folks to join if
we offer a swap for $20.  $20 or so if they're willing to transfer the life
membership.  Sort of like what some software companies do when they want you
to switch over to their product.  Their thinking: "it's hard to switch,
because you get used to doing things a certain way; you get stuck. So...we'll
offer you an incentive to switch to something obviousy better."

Would love to get your feedback and ideas on this.

I would also like to know:
1. What do you believe would be a fair membership fee?  Of course if you join
AHEA you won't need to join the other organizations.  In the end you'll save
money. I don't think the AHEA membership fee for an all-inclusive
organization, would have to be more than $150, do you?

2. Which exisiting journals publishers should we talk to?  Any other
publishers out there who would be interested in helping us get started?  Any
of you folks willing to be on the editorial board?

3. Where and when should we have our national convention? New Orleans is low
cost and a lot of fun.

4. I would like to continue to work on this with a group of board members.
 If you're willing to as a board member, please let me know.  We can work on
the HEEF via the INTERNET.

I will be posting the draft incorporation papers on the HEEF (via First Class
2.6 software: 199.4.193.58 or by modem, any software as wel as First Class
2.6, (504) 342-3733) by the end of next week.

P.S. It's tough being attack personally on non-issues.   The issue is the
support of the profession.  Let's keep that in mind.  There is no evidence
that building an all-inclusive health education organization will be the end
of the profession. It can only hurt if those with self-interests are
unethical and participate in behaviors unbecoming to the health education
profession; ask the questions, argue, discuss, but don't stab each other in
the back.  We need each other.   We need Health Education reform.

July 30, 1995
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#721
Date:         Sun, 30 Jul 1995 22:23:29 -0400
From:         Sona Thakkar 
Subject:      Thanks for the research ideas!

For those of you who responded to my plea for thesis research suggestions, I
thank you.  I really appreciate the time you took to help me out.  Right now,
I'm going to go through them more closely and try to narrow my area of
interest down to something workable, such as most of you suggested.  I also
need to get moving on finding a committee and discussing my ideas with them.
 So, as you can see, I have a long way to go!

Anyway, I just wanted to send a quick thank you to all of you for your help!
 Of course, I am always open to more suggestions!  Hopefully, I will be able
to write back to all of you to let you know about what was decided on for my
thesis research, soon.  Thanks again.

Sincerely,
Sona Thakkar
(SThakkar@aol.com)
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#722
Date:         Mon, 31 Jul 1995 03:09:55 -0600
From:         Jeff Slaton 
Subject:      For Your Information

Fifty years ago the ATOMIC BOMBS were dropped on JAPAN!

PLEASE DON'T STOP READING ... THIS MESSAGE WILL INTEREST YOU!

**This is an advertisement promoting a brochure on how to make an atomic bomb. 
This has been eliminated to save space. MJKittleson**