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#1876
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 12:00:19 -0800
From: Daniel Leviton
Organization: Adult Health & Development Program,
College of Health & Human Performance, University of Maryland
Subject: Horrendous Death as an unrecognized health problem: Data
Comments: To: hlthprom@relay.doit.wisc.edu, ihp-net@synasoft.com
For those health educators and health promoters interested in
Horrendous Death (that is, the label applied to people-caused deaths),
the following may be useful. The resources were gathered in preparation
of an article for Peace and Conflict: Journal of Peace Psychology.
The Mortality Cost of HD
Just how great is that cost? Gil Elliot did a painstaking
analysis of people-caused deaths resulting in his valuable work,
The 20th Century Book of the Dead. He wrote
On the battlefields of both world wars, in the death camps
of the 1930s and 1940s, in Vietnam, and in hundreds of
local disasters, pogroms, and organized famines, some 110
million have died a veritable nation of the dead.This
number is a conservative estimate, because we hardly know
how to count the dead (Elliot, 1972, frontispiece). Could
your child die this way?
His estimate is low if the many facets of HD are included.
He did not consider causes of HD such as homicide, environmental
assaults, smoking and accidents. However a massive assessment of
the world s health, The Global Burden of Disease Project, does.
It was undertaken in collaboration with the World Health
Organization, the World Bank, and researchers at the Harvard
School of Public Health. It predicted that the causes of death
and disability will be different in the year 2020 (Brown, 1996).
To measure the effect of diseases on populations, the used a
measure called the Disability-Adjusted Life Year (DALY). It
combines the impact of fatal diseases with that of disorders that
cause long-lasting disability (Brown, 1996). The following table
compares the conditions that caused the greatest global disease
burden (measured in DALYs) in 1990 with those projected to cause
the greatest burden in 2020 (Brown, 1996).
1990 2020
1. Pneumonia Heart disease
2. Diarrheal diseases Severe depression
3. Diseases of the newborn Traffic accidents
4. Severe depression Stroke
5. Heart disease Chronic lung disease
6. Stroke Pneumonia
7. Tuberculosis Tuberculosis
8. Measles War
9. Traffic accidents Diarrheal disease
10. Birth defects AIDS
11. Malaria Disease of the newborn
12. Chronic lung disease Violence
13. Falls Birth defects
14. Iron-deficiency anemia Self-inflicted injuries
15. Malnutrition Lung cancer
The table shows that in 1990, sources of DALYs that were
also forms of HD were traffic accidents, and malnutrition. In the
year 2020, predicted DALYs caused by HD include traffic
accidents, chronic lung disease (caused mostly by cigarette
smoking), war, violence, self-inflicted injuries, and lung cancer
(also caused mostly by cigarette smoking). No mention was made of
the type of wars predicted: nuclear, chemical and biological, or
conventional. Future scenarios concerning the threat of deaths,
disabilities, and morbidity due to within nation-state
implosion rather than between nation-states explosion have
been predicted (Kaplan, 1994; Rosenfeld, 1994). Implosion refers
to internal terrorism and assassination, murderous conflict
between ethnic and racial groups, and other forms of tribalism,
and violence instigated by single-issue advocates.
To further the case of the ill-effects of HD, the following
estimates of mortality due to three forms of HD, Type I,
(genocide, homicide, and war) are given. I will not go into the
consequences of disease, physical and mental illness, and
suffering associated with genocide, homicide, and war.
Similarity, social costs, such as social fragmentation, social
paranoia, reduction of social constraints, and increased chaos
manifested in anarchistic behavior, internal terrorism, riots,
etc. add to the social health costs but are not considered here.
Genocide
Rudolf J. Rummel, in his painstaking investigation of
genocide, estimates that since 1900, over 120,000,000 people have
been murdered by their governments (Rummel, 1990; Rummel, 1991a;
Rummel, 1991b).
Homicide
Among the industrialized countries the United States leads,
by far, the world in homicide rates (Reiss & Roth, 1993).
Homicide is the third leading cause of death for elementary and
middle school children (Vobejda, 1994). In the United States in
1991, 26,513 people were killed due to homicide and legal
intervention.They are the leading cause of death for the African
American population for those aged 15-24 (National Center for
Health Statistics, 1993).
War
William Eckhardt, Research Director of the Lentz Peace
Research Laboratory, calculated war and war-related deaths
(including interventions and invasions) by region and country,
from 1500-1990 (Sivard, 1991). Absolute numbers of civilian and
military deaths were reported. The total number of deaths for
civilians was 75,649,000, and for the military was 63,709,000 for
a total of 139,358,000 men, women, and children killed in war. A
more recent calculation by Ruth Sivard and her colleagues is that
With four years still to go, this modern century has already
been responsible for 250 wars and 109,746,000 war-related deaths,
a number somewhat larger than the total current population of
France, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden . . . .
There have been six times as many death per war in the 20th
century as in the 19th (Sivard, 1996, p. 7).
The Economic Cost of HD
The Military-Industrial Complex
HD exacts an economic as well as health costs. Several
resources have documented the priority of military compared to
social expenditures at the global and national levels (Ayres,
1994; Bank, 1988; Brown, Kane & Ayres, 1993; Dentzer, 1994;
McCarthy, 1992; NA, 1994; Renner, 1989; Renner, 1990; Sivard,
1996); Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, 1982
#589]. For example, Sivard estimates that $8 trillion dollars has
been spent on nuclear weapons since 1945, and that the United
States military budget exceeds the total military expenditures of
the thirteen biggest spenders ranking below it (Sivard, 1996).
She also estimates notes that governments of the world still
devoted over $700 billion (current dollars) to their militaries
in 1994" (Sivard, 1996, p. 11) I found the following comparisons
published in World Watch interesting:
1. What a B-2 bomber would cost, in materials, if it were built
of solid gold: $.8 billion
2. What it will actually cost U.S. taxpayers as currently
constructed: $2.3 billion.
3. The U.S. government s average annual expenditures on military
research and development since the mid 1980s: $35.0 billion.
4. Its average expenditures on research and development to
protect the environment: $1.4 billion.
5. Developed nation s 1991 military expenditures: $540 billion
6. Their 1991 expenditures on aid to the development of poor
countries, whose poverty arguably poses the greatest threat to
global security: $50 billion.
7. Average time it took for 1 million people to die in war during
the two millennia between the rise of Rome and the beginning of
the 20th century: 50 years.
8. Average time it has taken to kill that many people in war
throughout the 20th century: 1 year (NA, 1994).
This table, too, illustrates national and global
priorities:
Number of people employed by the UN 53,589
Number of people employed at Disney World 50,000
Total budget of the UN in 1995-96 (two year budget)
$18.2 billion
Revenue of single U.S. arms manufacturer (Lockheed Martin) in
1995 $19.4 billion
UN peacekeeping expenditures in 1995 $3.6 billion
World military spending in 1995 $767.0 billion
Number of UN peacekeepers for every 150,000 people in the world
1
Number of soldiers in national armies for every 150,000 people in
the world 650
U.S. contribution to the UN budget, per capita $7
Norwegian contribution to the UN budget, per capita $65
Number of U.S. troops serving in UN peacekeeping operations in
1994 965
Number of U.S. troops serving in international missions under
U.s. command in 1994 86,451
Cost of the 1994 Earth Summit $10 million
Cost of the 1994 Paris Air Show and Weapons Exhibition (U.S.
portion)$12 million
(Source: Renner, 1996)
Violent Criminal Behavior
Cohen et al., described a framework for calculating the costs of
violent behavior in the U.S. such as homicide, rape, robbery and
assault (Cohen, Prothow-Stith, Guyer & Spivak, 1994). Costs were
grouped into the categories of direct property losses, medical
and mental health care, victim services, lost workdays, lost
school days, lost housework, death, legal costs associated with
tort claims, and long-consequences of victimization. The
aggregate cost of violent behavior was calculated for rape, $8
billion; robbery, $20.5 billion; and assault, $81.3 billion.
Society s response to an intentional injury incurs costs
associated with: fear of crime, precautionary expenditures and
effort, the Criminal Justice System, victim services, other
noncriminal programs (such as hotlines and public service
announcement), incarcerated offender costs, overdeterrence
costs (such as innocent individuals accused of offense and
restriction of legitimate activity), and justice costs (such as
constitutional protections to avoid false accusations and cost of
increasing detection rate to avoid differential punishment). The
aggregate cost of society s response to murder, rape, robbery and
aggravated assault was calculated at $18.8 billion. All
calculations were based on 1987 dollars and should be increased
by 25-30 percent (Cohen et al., 1994).
It is obvious that the elimination or a significant
reduction of HD could result in the transfer of funds to enhance
lifegenic factors, and other national and global health and well-
being needs.
References
Ayres, E. (1994, September/October). A 50-year report card for
the human condition. World Watch, 7, 7.
Bank, W. (1988). World Development Report. New York: Oxford
University Press.
Brown, D. (1996, September 16). In changing face of
illness, an optimistic prognosis emerges. The Washington Post,
pp. A3.
Brown, L. R., Kane, H., & Ayres, E. (1993). Vital Signs
1993. New York: W. W. Norton & Company.
Cohen, M. A., Prothow-Stith, D., Guyer, B., & Spivak, H.
(1994). The costs and consequences of violent behavior in the
United States. In A. Reiss, J., Jr. & J. A. Roth (Eds.),
Understanding and Preventing Violence, Volume 4: Consequences and
Control (Vol. 4, pp. 67-166). Washington, D. C.: National Academy
Press.
Dentzer, S. (1994, June 13, 1994). Many swords, too few
plowshares. U.S. News & World Report, 116, 70.
Elliot, G. (1972). Twentieth Century Book of the Dead. New
York: Charles Scribner's Sons.
Kaplan, R. D. (1994, February). The coming anarchy. The
Atlantic Monthly, 273, 44-76.
McCarthy, C. (1992, January 17, 1992). Tax protesters' cry:
Fight poverty not war. the Washington Post, pp. D6.
NA. (1994). Military budget bulima. World Watch, 7(2), 39.
National Center for Health Statistics. (1993). Advance
Report of Final Mortality Statistics, 1991 (Monthly vital
statistics report vol 42 no. 2, suppl): Hyattsville, Maryland:
Public Health Service.
Reiss, A., J., Jr., & Roth, J. A. (Eds.). (1993).
Understanding and Preventing Violence. Washington, D. C.:
National Academy Press.
Renner, M. (1996). Matters of scale: Who dominates the
world? World Watch, 9(6), 39.
Renner, M. G. (1989). National Security: The Economic and
Environmental Dimensions (Paper 89): Worldwatch Institute.
Renner, M. G. (1990). Swords Into Plowshares: Coverting to
a Peace Economy (Worldwatch Paper 96): Worldwatch Institute.
Rosenfeld, S. S. (1994, November 11). Concerning chaos. The
Washington Post, pp. A31.
Rummel, R. J. (1990). Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and
Mass Murder Since 1917. New Brunswick: Transaction Publishers.
Rummel, R. J. (1991a). China's Bloody Century: Genocide and
Mass Murder Since 1900. New Brunswick: Transaction Publishers.
Rummel, R. J. (1991b). Democide: Nazi Genocide and Mass
Murder. New Brunswick: Transaction Publishers.
Sivard, R. (1991). World Military and Social Expenditures,
1991. (14 ed.). Washington, D. C.: World Priorities, Box 25140,
Washington, D. C. 20007.
Sivard, R. L. (1996). World Military and Social
Expenditures, 1996. (16 ed.). Washington, D. C.: World
Priorities, Box 25140, Washington, D. C. 20007.
Vobejda, B. (1994, January 21, 1994). Children's defense
fund cites gun violence. The Washington Post, pp. A3.
--
Dr. Daniel Leviton
College of Health & Human Performance
University of Maryland
College Park, MD 20740, Phone: (301) 405-2528
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#1877
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 21:00:33 +0000
From: michael olpin
Subject: a smoke filled tale
Fellow HEDIR's
This note may appear a bit long. I hope you will take a second to read
it as it is a matter of real importance to us here where we live.
We have a problem for which we hope some of you can give us some help.
Without going into a lot of detail, West Virginia is one of the
unhealthiest states in the Union, and our county is one of the
unhealthiest in the state. (Of the top 10 killers in the US, West
Virginia's percentages are higher than the national in every category.
Marks for which we must be doubly proud...aach.) In order to combat the
tremendous health problems, the County Health Department recently
devised several committees to work on the worst problems first. One of
these is a committee called RETURN, Residents Encouraging Tobacco Use
Reduction Now.
In April of this year, Mercer County, WV, passed a local clean air act.
Although many of the business owners complained (imagine the loss in
revenue), most of them eventually complied with the regulation to
provide a separate smoking section with separate ventilation. There were
some, however, that openly refused to comply.
Meanwhile, two members of the local Board of Public Health resigned and
now the local city board has placed two of the disgruntled restaurant
owners (who refused to comply with the clean air ordinance) on the board
of Public Health. Go figure. Well, at the very next city council
meeting, one of these new members, who is a chain smoker and has no
public health experience, asked to have the clean air ordinance amended
so that businesses could simply put a sign on their door alerting
patrons that smoking is allowed inside.
As you can imagine, that amendment would mostly gut the ordinance.
Progress of any kind is so hard to come by here, we hate to lose this
important ground. For the first time many residents with asthma and
other disabilites have been able to walk through the mall and enjoy
other public places they have never been able to before.
With less than two weeks to go until the repeal is voted on, we are
asking for your help. Some of the Board of Public Health members who
voted for the ordinance in April are wavering under the pressure. We
have heard that in a similar case where the clean air act was repealed,
the county was sued because it interfered with the rights of people with
disabilities. If anyone has any information on this particular case or
any other helpful tips, advice, or suggestions please write back. Any
assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much in advance.
Michael Olpin
olpinm@faculty.concord.wvnet.edu
health promotion webpage: http://www.siu.edu/departments/bushea/
personal webpage: http://www.siu.edu/departments/bushea/mike.html
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#1878
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 08:58:46 EST
From: "Barnes,Rick,C"
Subject: Chair Position, Department of Health Education
Dynamic, innovative leaders are invited to apply for the position of
Chair, Department of Health Education in the School of Health and Human
Performance at East Carolina University. Applicants should possess the
following qualifications: a)demonstrated administrative effectiveness;
b)demonstrated record of teaching effectiveness and scholarship
commensurate with tenure and appointment to the University Graduate
faculty; c)earned doctorate in Health Education or related field;
d)ability to interact effectively with faculty members, administrators
and students; e)commitment to diversity in higher education.
Screening begins 10 February 1997. Applicants must provide: a)letter of
application addressing the position description; b)curriculum vita;
c)three letters of reference specific to this position; d)transcripts of
all academic work.
Applications and letters of reference should be sent to: Dr. Rick
Barnes, Search Committee Chair, Department of Health Education, East
Carolina University, Greenville, NC 27858-4553. Phone: (919)328-4238
Fax: (919) 328-1285 E-Mail HPBARNES@ECUVM.CIS.ECU.EDU
East Carolina University is an equal opportunity/affirmative action
university and accommodates individuals with disabilities. Applicants
must comply with provisions of the Immigration Reform and Control Act.
Official academic transcripts are required upon employment.
application addressing the position description; b)curriculum vita;
c)three letters of reference specific to this position; d)transcripts of
all academic work
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#1879
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 10:19:31 -0800
From: Barbara Cooley
Subject: Re: Smoking on Campus
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19961120113846.2d07e524@daisy.siue.edu>
It's a true increase on our campus as assessed via a biennial stratified
random sample questionnaire survey.
barbara cooley, homebound health educator, university of washington
On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, mal goldsmith wrote:
> Is it just me or do those of you on college campuses notice a tremendous
> increase in the number of students smoking? My informal observations tell
> me that the efforts of the Tobacco industry to attract younger smokers
> (initiated about six years ago) have now yielded the results, as these
> freshmen arrive on campus. Seems like it might be time to alert our
> Wellness Centers and health classes to take note of the surge. Any
> observations on other campuses?
> *******************
> Mal Goldsmith, Ph.D., CHES
> Coordinator of Health Education
> Southern Illinois University
> Edwardsville, IL 62026
>
> (618) 692-3252
> (618) 692-3369 FAX
>
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#1880
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:47:40 -0600
From: wohl royal
Subject: Chair, Department of Health Phys Educ and Exercise Science
Washburn University invites applications and nominations for the position
of Department Chair. The Department is seeking an energetic professional
with a vision for the future to lead an undergraduate department into the
next century. This is a 12 month, tenure track position at the rank of
Associate or Full Professor, beginning in the fall of 1997.
Qualifications:
- terminal degree in Physical Education or related field
- record of successful teaching, scholarship and service appropriate for
appointment at the rank of Associate or Full Professor
- record of success in leadership and administrative duties
- strong background in pedagogy preferred
Responsibilities:
- perform administrative duties consistent with the university handbook
for department chairs
- teach six credit hours each semester and three credit hours during
summer session in area of expertise
- perform additional academic functions expected of a tenure-track faculty
member
Salary:
Commensurate with qualifications and experience
Application Deadline:
Review of applications will begin February 1, 1997 and continue
until a suitable candidate is identified.
Application Procedure:
Submit letter of application, vita, copies of all college
transcripts, and names, addresses and telephone numbers of three
professional references to:
Dr. Susan Miller, Chair of Search Committee
Department of HPEES
Washburn Universtiy
1700 College Avenue - Petro 201
Topeka, KS 66621
Phone: (913) 231-1010 x1463
FAX: (913) 231-1091
email: zzmils@acc.wuacc.edu
Washburn University is an equal opportunity/affirmative action employer.
Women and minorities are encouraged to apply.
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#1881
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 17:19:58 -0600
From: Kathleen Welshimer
Subject: Re: a smoke filled tale
Mike,
It sounds like you arrived in WVA just in time for a little community
activism! I've not heard of a particular case where a community was sued for
interfering with the rights of people with disabilities, but it sounds like
a good ange, and hopefully someone else on HEDIR will know something. If
nothing else, the mere rumor may serve as a threat to your local Board!
Meanwhile, I'd recommend that the community "pack" the board meeting.
Members the local or state ACS, ALS, and AHA should all be there to testify,
as should members of the general community. Those with respiratory problems
could provide particularly heart-wrenching testimony re: how bad things were
before the ordinance, and how much improved since. Don't leave out those
who have no particular health problems, though, since the Board may be able
to relate better to them. And, is it possible to get business owners who've
complied and are glad they did to present their perspective? In short, the
more commotion you can create at that meeting with people who DON'T want it
repealed, the more difficult the decision will be for the board. As for the
folks who backed it the first time, and are waffling now, pursuade a few
folks to call them and encourage them to support their original
stance...even a call or two would help. In all cases (phone calls and
testimony to the board, the clean air spokespeople should reiterate the
reasons why the ordinance was passed in the first place. The more,
reasonable, ammunition you can use, the more selfish-minded the opponents'
position will seem. (It can't hurt to mention the rumor that other
communities have been sued by repealing such legislation; however, I'd
strongly advise against anyone actually threatening to do so in Mercer County).
Sounds like you've also got a couple of other problems to contend with, even
if the ordinance is not repealled... such as, how to enforce the existing
ordinance. And, even more important, who on the City board appointed the
disgruntled business owners to the board of health and why... Their
perspective is likely to be damaging to other aspects of the health
department's business, and efforts should be made to ensure that this
doesn't happen again. (Recall my observing in class that the ability to
make appointments to the board is critical to the health director's power
base? ) These appointments may simply have been a short-sighted effort to
mollify politically powerful people; or, they may have been active attempts
at "payback", whether for the smoke-free ordinance or something else, so
figuring out why they were made and how to prevent such appointments in the
future is important.
I hope that this is of some help, and that other HEDIR readers will have
insights as well. Please keep me posted re: what happens.
Good luck!
Kathleen Welshimer
At 09:00 PM 12/1/96 +0000, you wrote:
>Fellow HEDIR's
>
>This note may appear a bit long. I hope you will take a second to read
>it as it is a matter of real importance to us here where we live.
>
> We have a problem for which we hope some of you can give us some help.
>Without going into a lot of detail, West Virginia is one of the
>unhealthiest states in the Union, and our county is one of the
>unhealthiest in the state. (Of the top 10 killers in the US, West
>Virginia's percentages are higher than the national in every category.
>Marks for which we must be doubly proud...aach.) In order to combat the
>tremendous health problems, the County Health Department recently
>devised several committees to work on the worst problems first. One of
>these is a committee called RETURN, Residents Encouraging Tobacco Use
>Reduction Now.
> In April of this year, Mercer County, WV, passed a local clean air act.
>Although many of the business owners complained (imagine the loss in
>revenue), most of them eventually complied with the regulation to
>provide a separate smoking section with separate ventilation. There were
>some, however, that openly refused to comply.
> Meanwhile, two members of the local Board of Public Health resigned and
>now the local city board has placed two of the disgruntled restaurant
>owners (who refused to comply with the clean air ordinance) on the board
>of Public Health. Go figure. Well, at the very next city council
>meeting, one of these new members, who is a chain smoker and has no
>public health experience, asked to have the clean air ordinance amended
>so that businesses could simply put a sign on their door alerting
>patrons that smoking is allowed inside.
> As you can imagine, that amendment would mostly gut the ordinance.
>Progress of any kind is so hard to come by here, we hate to lose this
>important ground. For the first time many residents with asthma and
>other disabilites have been able to walk through the mall and enjoy
>other public places they have never been able to before.
> With less than two weeks to go until the repeal is voted on, we are
>asking for your help. Some of the Board of Public Health members who
>voted for the ordinance in April are wavering under the pressure. We
>have heard that in a similar case where the clean air act was repealed,
>the county was sued because it interfered with the rights of people with
>disabilities. If anyone has any information on this particular case or
>any other helpful tips, advice, or suggestions please write back. Any
>assistance will be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thank you very much in advance.
>
>Michael Olpin
>olpinm@faculty.concord.wvnet.edu
>health promotion webpage: http://www.siu.edu/departments/bushea/
>personal webpage: http://www.siu.edu/departments/bushea/mike.html
>
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#1882
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:59:41 -0500
From: Judy Young
Subject: Re: Physical education in public schools -Reply
I hear many stories on the two extremes about physical education
instruction. I also believe that the anecdotes are probably
reflective of some programs that are being delivered. I think we
must eliminate poor programs and improve the quality of ALL
educational programs for ALL kids. There are also poor programs in
all other subject areas, but we do not consider eliminating the
programs. The positive contributions of physical education described
in the comments from Arkansas are needed and must be available to all
students. Some will not get them anywhere else if they don't have a
QUALITY PHYSICAL EDUCATION program. I hope that the recent attention
to changes in physical education mandates will serve as a wake-up
call to all physical education teachers to be more than "equipment
managers" and to parents and principals to hold physical education
teachers accountable for helping students to learn the skills and
knowledge needed to be active for a lifetime and find value and
satisfaction in doing so. Those many, many physical educators who
work every day to to provide positive experiences that help students
become health-related fit as well as physically competent and
confident are understandably hurt and frustrated to be lumped with
those who don't meet professional responsibilities or take pride in
what they do. And it hurts us all when kids don't learn how to be
healthy, productive and happy adults.
Judith Young, PhD.
naspe@aahperd.org
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#1883
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 10:44:32 -0500
From: Mary Hundley
Subject: Proposed Revision of the AAHE Mission Statement -Reply
Please make sure you fill out the form in HE-XTRA to give your
viewsand send to Larry Olson. AAHE needs to know this. Thanks.
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#1884
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 00:56:24 -0500
From: MidK@AOL.COM
Subject: Web Site Resources for Epi Info
Hi All
As many of you know I left ETR Associates about a year ago to do a variety of
things. One of the things that I have done is start a new organization,
ToucanEd, with an associate (hence the name toucan). We are very interested
in technology applications (which may or may not be related to the fact that
we live on the fringe of Silicon Valley) and have been working the past year
to develop a resource guide for students and professionals on using Epi Info
-- the public domain software from CDC. We are dedicated to developing
outstanding, high quality resources for health educators for the future.
Please check out the website and let me know what you think!
http://www.ToucanEd.com
Kathleen Middleton MS CHES
MidK@aol.com
(408) 462-4663
4603 Shauna Ct.
Soquel, CA 95073
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#1885
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:49:33 -0600
From: "Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D."
Subject: reminder
Greetings. Hope all had a nice Thanksgiving break. For those of you in the
academic world, the next few weeks are going to be hectic, yet I wanted to
send a memo to remind HEDIRs about some issues.
First, several months ago I started listing various syllabi of college
courses that were being taught. The intent was to have a resource for people
to peruse who are teaching similar courses. In addition, I feel it would be
a great boon to those newly graduated doctoral students who are starting
their professorial career.
Since that initial request, several people have given me their syllabi to
post or given me their web address where one could review that syllabi. I
want to remind people that I am still accepting syllabi. If you would like
to have any or all of your syllabi listed, you can do one of the following:
1) send me (attached format is preferred) your syllabi via e-mail. or
2) if you post your syllabi on the www, give me the URL. I'll create a link
from my syllabus home page to your course syllabus. In either case, the
course could be something that is currently being offered, or it could be
offered at various times.
Second: several weeks ago I indicated that a newly created software, called
Virtual Places, is available to use for chatrooms. This software, created
by Bob Gold, allows one to have real-time conversation anywhere on the www.
I would strongly encourage you to go to the e-mail services home page (url
is below) and download the respective software. Every Wednesday at 11:00
CST a group of health educators meet in the HEDIR Chatroom 1 to discuss
various issues. The potential of this chatroom software is great, and I
would encourage you to take advantage of this technology.
Third, for those of you that still have my e-mail as
"ga3748@siucvmb.siu.edu", please make such corrections to this current
address (kittle@siu.edu). The former e-mail will be phased out within a few
weeks.
Fourth, just a reminder that if you want your personal home page, or your
institution's home page listed in the job-site directory, please send me the
URL. You'll note when you get into the job- site directory off the web that
I have links to not only individual's addresses, but also to those
individual's (or departments) that have web pages.
Finally, I would like to thank Bruce Ragon and Dale Ritzel for being the
first two individual sponsors of the Email Services Home Page. Their
support is much appreciated.
__________________________
Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D.
Owner and Founder, HEDIR
Home Page: http://www.siu.edu/~kittle
E-Mail Home Page: http://www.siu.edu/~kittle/HEDIR/Menu.html
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#1886
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 12:34:04 GMT-5
From: "Steve G. Gabany"
Organization: Indiana State University
Subject: TENURE-TRACK FACULTY POSITION
Community Health Tenure-track Faculty Position Search
Indiana State University's expanding Community Health program is
searching for a tenure-track, Assistant Professor to join us with the
start of the Fall, 1997 term. ISU is primarily a teaching institution,
although, increasingly, faculty are expected to engage in scholarly
activity. We have recently completed major revisions to our curriculum
by applying the AAHE/SOPHE Role Delineation suggestions. It now places
heavy emphasis on formal health promotion methods. We are especially
interested in adding a faculty member who has very recent education or
training in program planning, implementation, or evaluation.
We are making concerted efforts to adapt as many of our courses as
possible to technological delivery methods; mainly Web-based courses
and televised instruction. We would expect our new colleague to devote
considerable energy to this activity.
Please forward this to those who might have an interest. Our ad will
appear in the Chronicle on Dec. 13. Interested parties can visit our
only Web course at:
http://web.indstate.edu/hlthsfty/hlth221/chhome.htm
Qualifications: Doctorate by date of appointment in Community Health,
Public Health, Health Education, or related area required.
Demonstrated knowledge of current health promotion planning,
implementation, or evaluation methods required. Commitment to
undergraduate and graduate teaching and advisement; program and
curricular development; scholarship and grants; and, university,
community, and professional service required. Current experience in
one or more of the areas highly desirable.
Duties: Teach health-promotion-oriented undergraduate Community Health
courses; advise major and minor students; assist in student
recruitment; develop and offer major courses through Internet and
televised instruction; assist in undergraduate program development;
assist in developing master's program; advise student groups; engage
in scholarly activities in the field; develop professional practice
and internship sites; serve on university committees; and assist in
developing relationships in the community and with other, local
colleges.
Screening begins Feb 1. Send letter, vita, 3 reference letters, and
e-mail address if available to Dr. Steve G. Gabany, Dept. of Health &
Safety.
Indiana State University does not discriminate on the basis of sex,
race, age, national origin, sexual orientation, religion, disability,
or veteran status. In line with its commitment to equal opportunity,
the University will recruit, hire, promote, educate, and provide
services to persons based upon their individual qualifications meeting
established criteria.
Indiana State University is committed to affrimative action for
employees and students through active recruitment, promotion,
retention, and enrollment or minorities, women, persons with
disabilities, and Vietnam-era veterans.
The University subscribes fully to all federal and state legislation
and regulations regarding discrimination.
***************************
Steve G. Gabany, Ph.D.
Indiana State University
Dept of Health & Safety
812/237-3108
HPRGABY@SCIFAC.INDSTATE.EDU
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#1887
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 12:51:19 GMT-5
From: "Steve G. Gabany"
Organization: Indiana State University
Subject: Re: reminder
mark, i'm offering a full-blown web intro community health course. if
you think some might benefit, here's the url:
http://web.indstate.edu/hlthsfty/hlth221/chhome.htm
enjoy
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Steve G. Gabany, Ph.D.
Indiana State University
Dept of Health & Safety
812/237-3108
HPRGABY@SCIFAC.INDSTATE.EDU
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#1888
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 12:10:05 -0600
From: Brian Geiger
Subject: Re: The list-server's experience
At 02:29 PM 11/27/96 -0800, you wrote:
>I am a graduate student taking a course in computer technology at the
>graduate school of public health at San Diego State University. In learning
>more about list-serves and their role in public health I would like to
>present information on the experiences of the members of this list-serve.
>Below are a few questions I have.
>1.How did you find out about this list-serve?
>recommendation from a colleague
>2. Why did you Join?
>to maintain communication with other health education professionals around
the country and abroad; to learn more about conference, employment, and
grant opportunities; to become familiar with the use of this technology in
order to teach students to use it.
>3. How long have you been a member?
>2 yrs
>4. How many members did you personaly know before joining this list-serve?
>12-20 est
>5. How many members have you met in person after joining?(like at APHA etc.)
>explain:
>5-10 new contacts at conferences
>6. How many messages do you send in a week/month?
>average 4-6 year
>7. How often do you read your messages in a week/month?
>3-4 days/week
>8. How often do you find other people's messages useful?
> (Never, sometimes, usually, always)
>usually find most messages useful; usefulness varies with my professional
and research interests, current academic course load, "hot topics" in the
media, etc.
>9. In what way has this list-serve been useful to you?
>keeping me informed of the "hot button" issues in U.S. as they become news,
particularly learning about the opinions and recommendations of my peers;
providing advance and late=breaking announcements of employment, conference,
publication, training opportunities
>10. In what way has it not met your expectations?
>
>11. Is there any group/population/geographic region that is currently
>missing from this list-serve that you feel would be a valuable source?
>
>12. What other list-serves have you found useful?
>
>13. Any words of wisdom for new list-serve members?
>Mark's (Kittleson) recommendations are very wise, particularly the idea of
"floating" for a short time to read the types of messages sent to members
before sending your own. Each list serve has its own particular membership.
It's important to know your audience. Also, don't be afraid to ask for help
when needed to send, receive, or download messages, or obtain informational
resources.
>THE END. Thanks for your input!
>Gina Rodriguez
>rodrigug@mail.sdsu.edu
>San Diego State University,
>Graduate School of Public Health
>
Brian Geiger
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#1889
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 15:21:11 +0000
Comments: Authenticated sender is
From: Grady Cash
Subject: Demand Management Research
A friend posted the following question to the research forum at
www.awhp.com. Can any provide any contacts?
- - - forwarded message - - - -
I am looking at several projects in the cost effectiveness of demand
management.
Are there any university setting doing research in the cost
effectiveness of demand management? Long term studies?
Any good resources? People I should talk to?
- - - - - - message ends - - - -
Thanks for your replies. It will be interesting to see if there are
any researchers on this list.
Grady Cash
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#1890
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 23:24:53 -0500
From: Ceepco@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: a smoke filled tale
Please remove me from your mailing list
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#1891
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 23:26:25 -0500
From: Ceepco@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: a smoke filled tale
please remove me from your mailing list
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#1892
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:44:59 -0800
From: Margo Harris
Subject: Re: Demand Management Research
Well, no, I can safely say I don't do research. But I do have an interest
in demand management. No, I am not in an academic setting, but I have come
across a number of interesting resources your colleague might want to
check.
1. Certainly one contact would be Donald Vickery, MD. The first journal
article that I read that used the term Demand Management was Vickery, D M
and Lynch, W D Demand Management: Enabling Patients to Use Medical Care
Appropriately, Journal of Occupational and Environmental Medicine, Vol. 37,
No. 5, May 1995. His reference section is long, with an emphasis on
self-care research. The article sends correspondence to Donald M. Vickery,
MD, Health Decisions International, LLC, 1667 Cole Blvd., Bldg. 19, Suite
350, Golden, CO 80401. Donald Kemper at Healthwise would be another good
contact - Healthwise, 904 W. Fort St., P O Box 1989, Boise, ID 83701,
208/345-1161. I heard, but have not seen, that they recently completed or
are working on a research project with 3M. That really sounds iffy (on my
part!).
2. A conference, Self-Care & Demand Management: Quality, Financial, and
Ethical Implications for the Health Care System, was scheduled for December
3-4, 1996 in Washington, DC. A number of the scheduled presentations were
on research topics. If proceedings were compiled, that could be a good
resource. The conference sponsor was Partnership for Prevention -
202/833-0009.
3. I identified an interesting company recently in my contract/consulting
work search. The company name is HBS International, Inc. They describe
themselves as "a rapidly growing software company. We develop
microcomputer-based software applications that focus on healthcare
outcomes. Our customers include over 750 hospitals, payers, and physician
groups." I visited their website, http://hbsi.com and found some
interesting information, including information on demand management. The
site could be worth a visit.
4. Some of the research was/is conducted under other terms than demand
management, including (but not limited to!) utilization management,
self-care, managed care, worksite health promotion, medical utilization,
self-care education, self-management, etc. But I think you knew that!
I'm not sure this is exactly the answer to the question, but thought I'd
share. Margo
Margo Harris
Harris Training & Consulting Services
htcs@halcyon.com
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#1893
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 08:01:49 -0500
From: "Sharon M. Desmond"
The Department of Health Education at the University of Maryland in College
Park is considering applications for admission to the graduate program for
the fall 1997 semester. Students can earn an MA or PhD in health
education, with a focus in health behavior, stress management, women's
health or family health. Students may also develop their own area of
focus. There is a strong emphasis on research within the doctoral program
and a variety of labs are available, including: the Interdisciplinary
Health Research Laboratory, the Minority Health Research Laboratory, the
Psychophysiology Laboratory and the Health Promotion Technology Laboratory.
Graduate assistants work about 20 hours per week. There are eight
assistantships available to qualified students. Stipends vary according to
experience, usually starting at $10, 000 for the academic year. Tuition is
waived. The University of Maryland is an equal opportunity employer and
committed to maintaining diversity. The application deadline is January
15, 1997. For additional information and application materials, contact:
Dr. Laura B. Wilson, Professor and Acting Chairperson
Department of Health Education
2387 Health and Human Performance Building
University of Maryland
College Park MD 20742
301-405-2469
lw20@umail.umd.edu
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#1894
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 07:56:51 -0600
From: "Dr. Brian Colwell"
Subject: Position Announcement
POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT
Department Head
The College of Education at Texas A&M University invites applications for
Head of the Department of Health and Kinesiology. The Department of Health
and Kinesiology has 83 full- and part-time faculty, with 148 graduate and
1,200 undergraduate majors. The Department has graduate programs (master's
and doctoral) in health education, physical education, exercise physiology,
motor behavior, sport pedagogy, and undergraduate programs in teacher
education (physical education and school health education), exercise
technology, sport management, outdoor education, and community health. The
Department also teaches required physical education activity classes that
produce over 30,000 student credit hours per year. Extramural funding for
the Department totaled $1.8 million in the 1995-96 academic year out of an
overall departmental budget of nearly $6 million. Faculty and students
excel in research, development, and publication activities and actively
participate in a wide variety of professional organizations. For more
information, see the Department's web site (http://hlknweb.tamu.edu).
The position requires an earned doctorate, a record of scholarship and
experience to qualify for Full Professor, and a commitment to participatory
decision making. The successful candidate will be expected to maintain and
contribute to excellence in graduate and undergraduate education, research,
extramural funding, professional leadership, and to provide effective
advocacy for the department within the university and the state. Salary
will be commensurate with experience and accomplishments.
The preferred appointment date is September 1, 1997; however, date of
employment is negotiable. Complete applications consist of a letter of
application, curriculum vitae, and the names, addresses, and telephone
numbers of at least three references. The search committee will begin to
review applications on February 17, 1997 and the search will continue until
the position is filled. Applications and nominations should be sent to:
Doug Palmer, Chair, HLKN Head Search Committee, College of Education, 158
Read, Texas A&M University College Station, TX 77843-4243. Applications
from minorities are strongly encouraged. An Affirmative Action/Equal
Opportunity Employer.
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#1895
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:42:21 -0500
From: Roger Hartmuller
Subject: national expert in health professional communication
Comments: cc: Virginia Hartmuller
The National Cancer Institute is in the process of forming a task force to
examine the way in which cancer information is disseminated to patients,
the public and health professionals. We are currently "brainstorming" and
trying to come up with a list of names of well-known national experts in
the field of health communications who may be able to provide us with some
guidance in this area. Can you provide me with the name (and their contact
information) of anyone who may fit this criteria?
Virginia Hartmuller
301-496-6792
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#1896
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 13:04:53 GMT
Reply-To: cmahoney@emerald.educ.kent.edu
From: "MAHONEY, COLLEEN"
Subject: Re: national expert in health professional communication
Roger:
I have experience in the area of health communication (as does my
colleague here at Kent State U, Scott Olds). I would not refer to
either of us as nationally known experts in the area but I (and
probably Scott) would be more than happy to assist in any way.
In addition, I worked (and am still a consultant) for Westat Research
Corporation, Division of Education, in Rockville MD. They have
several health communication specialists on staff - Dr. Tim Edgar,
Dr. Sharon Hammond, and Ms. Colleen Ryan. They are involved in
several health communication campaigns with the CDC. Tim and
Collleen are both located at the Rockville office, 1650 Research
Blvd., Rockville, MD 20850; phone 301-251-1500. Sharon is at the new
Atlanta office - I don't not have her number or address but they
would have it at the Rockville office.
Hope that helps! Good luck!
cmahoney@emerald.educ.kent.edu
Colleen Mahoney
Assistant Professor, Health Education
Department of Adult, Counseling, Health, & Vocational Education
Kent State University
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#1897
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 22:50:11 +0400
From: sandal@EMIRATES.NET.AE
To Dr. mark J. Kittleson.
I want to say that my E_ mail as it is .
If there is E_ mail directory or serve list for Hospital administration
please let me know .
Thankyou.
Mr&Mrs Sandal .
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#1898
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 12:21:09 CST
From: Lisa Pogoff
Subject: Re: national expert in health professional communication
Dr. Peter Sandman is an expert in the field of risk communication and
other kinds of communication. He is brilliant. You can reach him at
617/630-0385. There's also a new journal called "Health
Communication." I don't have it here, but if you get ahold of a
copy, the editors could probably give you a list of names. LP
>Date sent: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:42:21 -0500
>Send reply to: The International Electronic Mail Directory for Health Educators
>
>From: Roger Hartmuller
>Subject: national expert in health professional communication
>To: Multiple recipients of list HEDIR-L
>The National Cancer Institute is in the process of forming a task force to
>examine the way in which cancer information is disseminated to patients,
>the public and health professionals. We are currently "brainstorming" and
>trying to come up with a list of names of well-known national experts in
>the field of health communications who may be able to provide us with some
>guidance in this area. Can you provide me with the name (and their contact
>information) of anyone who may fit this criteria?
>
>Virginia Hartmuller
>301-496-6792
>
Lisa Pogoff
Phone 612/215-0916 Fax 612/215-0975
Internet: lisa.pogoff@health.state.mn.us
Work hours: M-Th 7:45-2:45
F 7:45-2:15
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#1899
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:41:39 -0500
From: RESCOTT@GEMINI.MCO.EDU
Subject: Re: national expert in health professional communication
John Ureda, DrPh, Dept of HPRE, School of Public Health, USC, Columbia, SC
29208 803/777-5887 jureda@sph.scarolina.edu
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#1900
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:08:56 -0500
From: ZS_RBBEAVERS@SCSU.EDU
Subject: National Safety Council First Aid and CPR
The Department of Health and Physical Education at South Carolina State
University is considering changing from teaching the American Red Cross
Fist Aid and CPR to the National Safety Council First Aid and CPR.
Has another HPE Programs considered this change and/or made this change?
We would appreciate any comments/suggestions you may have.
South Carolina State University is a Historically Black College/University
(HBCU) celebrating 100 years (1896-1996) of providing quality education in
South Carolina.
Robert B. Beavers, Ph.D.
zs_rbbeavers@scsu.edu
(803)536-8067
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#1901
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:15:18 -0600
From: "Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D."
Subject: A Concern
The following memo was sent to me by a HEDIR subscriber with a concern. The
information after this person's memo was my response to that individual.
They gave me permission to send out their response, because I believe it is
worth reading. Please read my response to this person. As technologies are
available, growth periods can often be painful. I believe this person has
indicated a positive feeling about HEDIR, but is concerned about some of its
current practices.
At 12:47 PM 12/2/96 -0800, you wrote:
> Mark....Just a quick note....Although I generally am appreciative of
> your efforts in developing this listserve, and think it is a good
> idea,...I am growing VERY tired of the people like xxx, xxx, xxx and
others who use this medium as a constant
> "BLAH BLAH BLAH" for their own thoughts....Personally, I could care
> less...I have heard from many others who just delete them; and of
> course, I do this too...But...as a general rule, perhaps you could
> kindly tell them to keep their personal opinions to a MINIMUM...ONce
> per month might be a good guide, rather than a daily dose from xxx,
> et al.
>
> I've thought about dropping the service and I know that my colleagues
> are considering it too...However, why should we be compelled to drop
> because a few individuals are so impressed with the sound of their own
> voices and go on and on and on........It's the same old junk, again
> and again..... the same debates.....the same people talking...
>
> It's a bleak rainy day here, and perhaps the weather is affecting my
> mood,...but....I really am getting annoyed by all of this....Again,
> don't take this personally....I know how much time and effort you put
> in to what COULD be a great service....The FEW spoil and cheapen the
> effectiveness for all....
>
> Hope all goes well at SIU....
My response to this person:
I am in the position where I will not censor anything posted. With that
comes some good news and bad news. I appreciate your concern, and I hear it
occassionally. I am personally against limiting people (first, how am I
going to monitor this), but more importantly, there may be somebody who has
an vested interested in a topic. Many people say they don't want to
respond because they don't want to be like "one of the ones you describe",
yet, if only a handful of
people respond, then the ones like xxx, or xxx, etc. are definately the
only ones who will appear on the screen. I would like to hear from more
people--this is a forum for everybody. We have nearly 700 people on the
list, and probably less than 1% post memos. Unfortunately, some even say
they fear retribution if they send something out that some people may not
like. That is somewhat defeating the purpose of the HEDIR.
To the entire HEDIR: how can this system be improved?
__________________________
Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D.
Owner and Founder of HEDIR
Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle
HEDIR Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle/HEDIR
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#1902
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:37:30 -0500
From: Nancy Aidala
Subject: Un-subscribe
Please un-subscribe me to this service.
Thank you.
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#1903
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:05:39 -0800
From: Lisa Gilbert
Subject: Tobacco reduction project
Hello,
We are working on a state contract to reduce tobacco product sales to minors.
I am in search of an instrument or any measures of KABS of retailers of
tobacco products. Has anyone ever surveyed merchants to determine the
characteristics of those who check IDs vs. those who do not? What about
barriers to checking IDs...any data on that? Thanks for any info,
citations, or instruments in this area.
Lisa Gilbert, Ph.D
University of Idaho
104 PEB
Moscow, ID 83844-2401
(208) 885-2183
fax: (208) 885-5929
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#1904
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:04:48 -0800
From: Gina Rodriguez
Subject: HIV prevention & women
Hello! If you are involved in an HIV prevention program/research project for
women or know of people who are, could you please take a few moments to read
this email.
This is a short 12 question survey of HIV prevention programs/research
projects for women. I am currently coordinating a research study that works
with separated/divorced women. The study is assessing risk behaviors and the
effects of a skills training. As a project coordinator and graduate student,
my interest in a survey is to: 1) learn more about other HIV prevention
programs for women in the community, in the academy, and internationally and
2)to demonstrate in a health communication course the applications of
computer technologies in program planning.
If you are involved in HIV prevention for women please complete the survey
below and send the results back to me. If you are not involved in such a
program but know of people who are, could you please send the survey on to
them or recommend people I should contact?
Your prompt response is appreciated. I have emailed others and am planning
to combine whatever responses I receive into a short class presentation. It
would be helpful if you could respond by December 9th. Thank you for your
support in this endeavor!!
Gina Rodriguez, M.P.H. Candidate
San Diego State University
Graduate School of Public Health
Center for Behavioral Epidemiology and Community Health
rodrigug@mail.sdsu.edu
SHORT SURVEY OF HIV PREVENTION PROGRAMS FOR WOMEN
1. What is your title and what organization are you with?
2. Who is your funding agency?
3. What are the goals and objectives and name of your program/project?
4. What phase are you in your program?
5. What is your target population?
6. What is your sample size?
7. How are you recruiting women?
8. What kinds of incentives are you providing for their participation?
9. How are you measuring program outcomes?
10. What are the results of your program?
11. What are the success and problems with your program?
COMMENTS:
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#1905
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:54:47 -0500
From: "Lea S. Dooley"
Subject: Re: A Concern
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961204201518.0070f778@saluki-mail.siu.edu>
Mark,
I had to join the 1% on this one. My gut feeling on this issue is
that it is so personal that we may need to chalk it up to "you can't
please *all* of the people *all* of the time". Personally, I enjoy
hearing the "Blah blah blha's" because it gives me a sense of the people
who are writing, which is the closest to putting a name and a face
together that we can come to on this listserve (for those of us who do not
know each other personally, and there are 700 of us in here...). Also, I
believe that part of health education is community and this reflects a
virtual community. As a virtual community we should be able to keep
things flexible, not always be so academic. I'm *not* advocating that we
see another surge of personal email over the list, but I do appreciate
those brave souls who go out on a limb to say "Hey, I was thinking of this
the other day, what do you all think about it? .... Here in xxx we do
things this way ..... Blah Blah Blah...."
At any rate, there is my two cents worth of blah blah blahs. On a
more academic level, you're right, we cannot censor this listserve. Not
just because it wouldn't be right, but because it would simply be
impossible and I think if the concerned writer thought about how they
would do that, they would realize what a difficult task that would be. In
all communities, virtual and non, we have to see people that we really
don't care to deal with. The good thing about virtual communities is that
we have the option of "deleting" them. It's easy enough, apparently it's
practiced by the concerned writer, though I fail to see why it still
bothers him to simply hit a button.
Have I over blahed this email yet?
Lea Spring Dooley
MPH
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#1906
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:46:15 -0600
From: Raffy Luquis
Subject: SAD STORY
Comments: cc: jxl173@psu.edu, jbuckwal@post.its.mcw.edu, acohen@pond.com,
ggrimm@vax2.winona.msus.edu, kwoodiel@comp.uark.edu,
spretzer@comp.uark.edu, jschulz@Ra.MsState.edu,
meyoung@comp.uark.edu, mkelley@selu.edu
I wanted to share this with you. It was shared with me by someone
in my office.
-------Begin Forwarded Message Here---------------------
I live in New Mexico, very near the Texas-Mexico border and I have
not heard any such story. However--living here I know that it very
well could happen. Sad to think life has come to this.
Date:
Thursday, October 17, 1996 12:04
What does COCAINE meant to YOU?
I believed that I was doing my part in the war on drugs by just not
using and sending contributions to those who are directly involved,
this is the story my sister told me that changed my mind and
hopefully it will yours also, we have to do more, please send this
E-mail to as many people as you can, if you have a home PC send it
out there to.
My sisters co-worker had a sister in Texas who, with her husband
was planning a weekend trip across the border for a shopping spree,
at the last minute their baby sitter canceled so they were stuck
taking their two year old son with them. They had been across the
border for about an hour when the baby got free and ran around a
corner, the mother went chasing but he had disappeared, the mother
went to find the police officer who told her to go directly to the
border gate and wait, not really understanding she did as she was
instructed.
About 45 minutes later a man approached the border carrying the
boy, the mother ran to him grateful he had been found, when the man
realized it was the boys mother he dropped the boy and ran himself,
the police were waiting for him and got him.
The boy, dead, in the 45 minutes he was missing, was cut open, ALL
of his insides removed and his body cavity stuffed with COCAINE.
The man was going to carry him across the border as if he were
asleep. A two year old boy, dead, discarded as if he were a piece
of trash for sombodies cocaine.
If this story can get out and change one persons mind about what
drugs mean to them, we are helping, lets hope and pray it changes
allot of minds.
** Please share with other people**
Raffy R. Luquis, Ph.D.
(610)694-8972
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#1907
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:34:37 -0800
From: Dawn Graff-Haight
Subject: Re: A Concern
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961204201518.0070f778@saluki-mail.siu.edu>
If you get tired of xxx and xxx and xxx, delete them. I might want to
hear from them more often than you do. I still miss Andrew Jenkins
thought for the week.......sniff sniff.
Dawn Graff-Haight
Health Human Performance and Athletics
Linfield College
1-503-434-2641
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#1908
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:53:16 -0500
From: GALLO@SCSUD.CTSTATEU.EDU
Subject: Re: A Concern
I agree that the same people write almost all the time, but perhaps somewhere
there is a person who is interested in what these people have to say... I just
choose to delete them...
Valerie Gallo
CHES
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#1909
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:08:13 -0600
From: "Vincent T. Francisco, Ph.D."
Subject: Re: A Concern
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961204201518.0070f778@saluki-mail.siu.edu>
Mark (and everyone else):
As a person who believes there is some legitimate value in all opinions,
and in random thoughts and ideas generated by members of this group,
please do not change a thing. Messages in which I am not interested I
simply delete. The occasional "mistake" that people make in sending
personal responses to the group are just that--mistakes. You cannot and
should not moderate discussions on this group, given the constraints of
the technology. I am sorry that some of our colleagues feel otherwise,
and I hope they do not decide to unsubscribe. We all would lose
something. With that, I understand that some people need to prioritize
their time differently than myself (I believe I delete more than half the
messages without going beyond the subject line, depending on my schedule)
and cannot spend much time reading extraneous material.
Anyway, I appreciate the opportunity this list offers me, including
opportunities to learn from others with differing opinions.
Vince Francisco
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Vincent T. Francisco, Ph.D.
Associate Director
Work Group on Health Promotion and Community Development
University of Kansas
4086 Dole Center
Lawrence, KS 66045
913-864-0533 (office)/913-864-5281 (fax)
E-MAIL: v-francisco@ukans.edu
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On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D. wrote:
> The following memo was sent to me by a HEDIR subscriber with a concern. The
> information after this person's memo was my response to that individual.
> They gave me permission to send out their response, because I believe it is
> worth reading. Please read my response to this person. As technologies are
> available, growth periods can often be painful. I believe this person has
> indicated a positive feeling about HEDIR, but is concerned about some of its
> current practices.
>
> At 12:47 PM 12/2/96 -0800, you wrote:
> > Mark....Just a quick note....Although I generally am appreciative of
> > your efforts in developing this listserve, and think it is a good
> > idea,...I am growing VERY tired of the people like xxx, xxx, xxx and
> others who use this medium as a constant
> > "BLAH BLAH BLAH" for their own thoughts....Personally, I could care
> > less...I have heard from many others who just delete them; and of
> > course, I do this too...But...as a general rule, perhaps you could
> > kindly tell them to keep their personal opinions to a MINIMUM...ONce
> > per month might be a good guide, rather than a daily dose from xxx,
> > et al.
> >
> > I've thought about dropping the service and I know that my colleagues
> > are considering it too...However, why should we be compelled to drop
> > because a few individuals are so impressed with the sound of their own
> > voices and go on and on and on........It's the same old junk, again
> > and again..... the same debates.....the same people talking...
> >
> > It's a bleak rainy day here, and perhaps the weather is affecting my
> > mood,...but....I really am getting annoyed by all of this....Again,
> > don't take this personally....I know how much time and effort you put
> > in to what COULD be a great service....The FEW spoil and cheapen the
> > effectiveness for all....
> >
> > Hope all goes well at SIU....
>
>
> My response to this person:
>
> I am in the position where I will not censor anything posted. With that
> comes some good news and bad news. I appreciate your concern, and I hear it
> occassionally. I am personally against limiting people (first, how am I
> going to monitor this), but more importantly, there may be somebody who has
> an vested interested in a topic. Many people say they don't want to
> respond because they don't want to be like "one of the ones you describe",
> yet, if only a handful of
> people respond, then the ones like xxx, or xxx, etc. are definately the
> only ones who will appear on the screen. I would like to hear from more
> people--this is a forum for everybody. We have nearly 700 people on the
> list, and probably less than 1% post memos. Unfortunately, some even say
> they fear retribution if they send something out that some people may not
> like. That is somewhat defeating the purpose of the HEDIR.
>
>
> To the entire HEDIR: how can this system be improved?
> __________________________
> Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D.
> Owner and Founder of HEDIR
> Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle
> HEDIR Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle/HEDIR
>
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#1910
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 20:49:49 +0000
Reply-To: kzeno@earthlink.net
From: Kenneth Zeno
Subject: hedir listserv
Please add me to your new listserv for health educators. I am a K-12
Director of Health Education and Human Services for the Malden Public
Schools in Malden, Massachusetts. My address is Kzeno@earthlink.net
Thanks !
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#1911
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 23:24:11 -0600
From: MICKY ROBERTS
Subject: Position Announcement
Injury prevention coordinator ( both intentional and unintentional) for
DeKalb County Board of Health. A county of Metro Atlanta w/ pop. of
+600,000. Supervising a team of four in the Community Health Promotion
Division as well developing the direction of the unit will be the primary task.
The preferred appointment date is January 1, 1997; however, date of
employment is negotiable. An immediate 90 day appointment is optional
Complete applications consist of a letter of
application, curriculum vitae, and the names, addresses, and telephone
numbers of at least three references. The search committee will begin to
review applications immediately and the search will continue until
the position is filled.
Salary is commensurate with education and experience.
Applications and nominations should be sent to:
Micky Roberts via this e-mail address.
Applications from minorities are strongly encouraged. An Affirmative
Action/Equal
Opportunity Employer.
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#1912
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 23:34:35 -0600
From: MICKY ROBERTS
Subject: CHES Webpages and directory
I'm attempting to gather a thumbnail indication from health educators
interested in utilizing a Webpage service. This would include your own
Webpage posted at no cost including links , graphics, and information
concerning your area of expertise. This would also include a general users
section with practice CHES exam activities or other content specific areas.
If you think this could be of value,
please let me know or visit the beta of this concept at the following URL:
http://www.mickydz.com/~mickyr/ph.htm Thanks.
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#1913
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 21:45:05 -0800
From: Margo Harris
Subject: CHES Credits via Distance Education
As most of you know, I am a member of Pacific Northwest SOPHE, and I would
like to request your help with a SOPHE chapter project. Our SOPHE chapter
is a five state chapter, plus a few brave members from British Columbia.
Hi, Larry! To increase benefits to out of the Seattle area members, we
added an email distribution list this year. We periodically send messages
to members on the list. Now we would like to identify opportunities for
our "CHES" members to obtain continuing education credits via distance
education offerings.
I know some of you have posted this information about courses,
videoconferences, etc. in the past, and I apologize for asking you to
repeat that. But please do. If you will send information to my private
email address, I will be glad to compile them for the list. Our primary
interest is education programs with CHES credits offered.
If you don't know of offerings now, but learn of some in the future, I
would request that you share information on a continuing basis. Our plan
is to develop a "calendar" of offerings and continually add to it. By all
means, if this already exists, please let me know where to find it! Thanks
for your help! Margo
Margo Harris
Harris Training & Consulting Services
htcs@halcyon.com
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#1914
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 21:32:42 -0800
From: Margo Harris
Subject: Re: Demand Management Research - Part 2
I know, I know. I answered this already. But I warned you that I was
interested in this subject.
My consideration of demand management has been focused in the area of
advanced directives. I also pursue work in the area of consumer health
information provided through companies such as Healthwise which I mentioned
in my first post.
Your colleague's "cost effectiveness" question is an interesting one,
because much of my reading in this area indicates that the goal of demand
management is not cost savings, although that may be and/or often is an
outcome. Some of the literature on advanced directives frankly state the
different directives are not cost saving, see for example, Emanuel, E J and
Emanuel, L L, The Economics of Dying: The Illusion of Cost Savings at the
End of Life. New England Journal of Medicine, Vol. 330, No. 8, February
24, 1994. There is a remarkable Robert Wood Johnson research project on
going studying this arena. One large intervention was conducted as an
inpatient project, identifying nurses as a liaison between the doctor and
patient with the goal of getting do not resuscitate (DNRs) orders signed.
After several years and lots of $$$, the intervention showed no benefit and
folks were stunned, well maybe very surprised. They expected DNRs to be
completed and substantial cost savings. After working for several years in
the area of advanced directives, and just beginning to look at the
research, I can share with you (anecdotally of course) a few observations:
* consumers don't like to go to programs on adanced directives in hospitals
* consumers willing complete living wills and durable health care power of
attorneys (in community based programs, especially when offered with an
attorney present) and just as eagerly refuse to sign DNRs
* I have begun to wonder whether there are any successful interventions
that would compel or even encourage consumers to complete a DNR or another
directive in the hospital setting
* I would like to find or see research conducted on this issue
In addition to the general terms I mentioned in the first post to use as
search terms for the research your colleague is seeking, search on the
specific issue/intervention (i.e. advanced directives) to find cost
effectiveness research.
Also, after I sent message #1, I thought of several other companies that
cite research and cost effectiveness data, and they would also be possible
contacts. In addition to Healthwise, consider:
* Access Health - located in Rancho Cordova, CA, sorry no other contact
info
* Benova Inc - 1220 SW Morrison, Portland, OR 97205, 503/228-2567 or
800/579-8622 and other benefits management programs that handle large
self-insured clients like Microsoft
* Employee Managed Care Corporation (EMC2) - a nurse and information
service similar to Access. In published articles, they state "Employee
Managed Care services yield $3 in savings for every $1 they cost. The
bottom line is, EMC programs reduce unnecessary medical expenses through
informed decision-making." In promotional literature, they note what you
can expect when you add EMC2 services to your health plan:
1. Lower costs to provide health care, as a result of consumers'
appropriate utilization and wiser choices.
2. Satisfied consumers who choose to stay with their health plans and
appreciate receiving a substantial supplemental benefit.
3. Reasonable expectations and positive behavior changes that include
shared responsibility for health decisions and appropriate use of
self-care.
EMC2, 701 Fifth Avenue, Suite 2600, Seattle, WA 98104-7015, 206/749-1100 or
800/755-2136. And, no I have not seen any of their "research." Margo
Margo Harris
Harris Training & Consulting Services
htcs@halcyon.com
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#1915
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 08:33:08 EST
From: STUFORS@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: A Concern
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961204201518.0070f778@saluki-mail.siu.edu>
How Can the System be improved? I see this "place" as a forum for all sorts
of ideas (new or retread). Those of us who have been in this business for
20-30 years may have heard and read many of the ideas before but some of
the newer professionals either need to air their ideas and/or to read those
from others. This list has many other valuable functions but I think the
opportunity to exchange ideas, frustrations, philosophies in a timely way
is wonderful. If I think I've heard something before, I just hit the discard
key. stu fors
Health Promotion and Behavior
Univ. of Georgia
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#1916
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 09:11:06 -0600
From: Anna Marie Kukla
Subject: Re: A Concern
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961204201518.0070f778@saluki-mail.siu.edu>
Mark et al
I don't mind hearing from the same old people all of the time. I like to
read differing opinions...it keeps my mind open. I agree that few people
post as the fear a certain retribution for unusual opinions or possible
offensive remarks. I thought this was an open forum for health educators.
Perhaps the gentleman needs to draw the drapes on the window.
amk
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#1917
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 10:41:20 -0500
From: "Patricia L. Cox"
Subject: unsubscribe
Please take me off the listserve
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#1918
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 09:41:17 -0600
Reply-To: gkeeney@d.umn.edu
From: georgia lynn keeney
Subject: Re: A Concern
Concerning Mark's message in response to too much blah, blah from xxx
and xxx....what's a delete button for? Maybe we could have a contest
to see who is the fastest deleter of us all and which senders get
deleted the most based solely on thier names? Better yet, let's do a
research study on this including gender and age as a factors. Do
women's messages get deleted faster than men's? Do younger people's
messages get deleted more than older people's? At least one article
is waiting to be written about this topic.
I would like this listserv to continue pretty much as it is. I
appreciate Mark's restraint in not editorializing. Let's give every
one a chance to be heard. Deleting is good fine motor exercise.
Happy Holidays to one and all!!
Georgia Keeney, Assoc. Prof. Health Ed.
Univ. of Minn., Duluth (we have lots of snow)
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#1919
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 07:42:04 -0800
From: Margo Harris
Subject: Re: A Concern
This is a "concern" voiced on each of the listservs I've joined. There's a
fairly active list on training and development from Penn State. There are
now over 4,000 folks on the list, so there are a few more "regular
blahers"!
Of concern to me is why only 1% of 700 health education-interested folks
post. A list is only as useful as the posts and participation of its
members. I've been surprised at the "retribution" on this list, and I
think it has driven some to contact members privately rather than post. I
think it has driven some to lurk only. On the Penn State list we've
acknowledged that a list is a "slice of life." There are no "blah free
zones." When I first started on the Internet, I loved a comment I heard.
"If you're going to have an information super highway, you're going to have
some highway robbers."
I naively thought on a health ed list, there would be room for all and
"most would post." Regretably untrue. I responded to the recent student
survey about use and satisfaction with this list. It would be interesting
to see the results of that survey. I wonder if folks have suggestions for
making this list more useful; so they didn't feel like unsubscribing is
their only alternative. Margo
Margo Harris
Harris Training & Consulting Services
htcs@halcyon.com
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#1920
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 09:06:59 MST
From: Mike Caserta
Organization: College of Nursing, Univ. of Utah
Subject: Re: A Concern
Mark:
At the risk of sounding redundant (viz. the many who have expressed
an opinion on this) I believe we need to keep the listserv as an open
forum. As others have mentioned, if there is a topic or discussion
that is not of interest to me I simply delete it and move on the the
next piece of mail.
One thing is apparent -- this topic has certainly generated a flurry
of interest and activity!! I think the 1% is approaching 10% on this
one.
Although this is my first piece of input since I have subscribed to
the listserv, I have enjoyed "peaking in" on some of the discussions
and I anticpate greater participation in the future as needs arise.
Have a nice day, folks.
Mike Caserta
Michael S. Caserta, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Gerontology Center
University of Utah
25 South Medical Dr.
Salt Lake City, Utah 84112
(801) 581-3572
mike@nurfac.nurs.utah.edu
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#1921
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 11:28:48 -0500
From: Tamara Lou Gallant
Subject: Re: A Concern
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961204201518.0070f778@saluki-mail.siu.edu>
Thanks for bringing this up publicly, Mark.
My first thought was to notice the effort that goes into silencing
certain contributions deemed by the loudest as
unworthy or irrelevant to this (and other) listservs. There's always the
effort to reduce junk mail (I gotta support that effort!) But a while ago
a lot of discussion resulted in eliminating thoughts for the day, and other
uplifting observations (which I personally appreciated)--Those
who can't be bothered deleting have deleted for us all :(.
I appreciate and support your policy of not sensoring messages, Mark.
And prefer to delete on my own behalf. I also encourage the more
progressive question: Why do more people not send messages & responses in?
Tamara Lou Gallant, MPH
University of Massachusetts Health Services
Amherst, MA 01003-4310
tgallant@uhs.umass.edu
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#1922
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 10:30:00 -0600
From: "Hall, Andy"
Subject: Re: SAD STORY
This is indeed a disturbing tale, but I personally doubt its veracity. I
cannot imagine that an incident such as this could have happened *anywhere*
along the U.S.-Mexico border without being splashed across the front page of
every newspaper and magazine in both countries, and without attracting the
attention of at least one grand-standing politician. The supposed source of
the story -- my sister's coworker's sister -- as well as the noticable lack
of verifiable factual information as to names, dates and locations, gives it
all the hallmarks of an urban legend.
----------------------> Andy Hall
----------------------> Galveston, Texas
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#1923
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 13:10:01 EST
Comments: Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2X
From: "Richard A. Fee, Ph.D., Chair, HPES Department"
Subject: Re: SAD STORY
In-Reply-To: note of 12/05/96 13:00
Director, Psychophysiology Research Laboratory
Associate in Psychiatry & Behavioral Medicine, Medical School
Boy I have to add my 2 cents worth and say I agree with Andy Hall.. This sound
like a scare tactic to enrage the seemingly complacent masses. Its akin to the
movie "Reefer Madness". If its true its indeed very sad. I doubt stuff I rea
d on the 'net when its not documented, though.
I didn't hear any of it on the nightly or am news. Not to mention Dateline or
20/20 or American Edition. Seems like one of these would have snarfed it up.
Regards, Dick
rafee001@ulkyvmm.louisville.edu Vox 502-852-6645
snappy sig file under construction Fax 502-852-4534
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#1924
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 13:48:10 -0500
From: ZS_RBBEAVERS@FLOYD.SCSU.EDU
Subject: Re: A Concern
December 4, 1996
Mark, I appreciate your position on censorship and will delete those messages
that I feel are bothersome, boring, etc, etc. It's amazing to me that we as
health educators (some of us) are finding things to be boring or bothersome.
There are more important questions to be asked as suggested by Tamara Lou
Gallant and others responding to this issue. If some of us are bothered by the
clutter than "TURN IT OFF - DELETE IT."
Robert B. Beavers
South Carolina State University
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#1925
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:17:13 EST
From: Lyn Lawrance
Organization: University of NC at Greensboro
Subject: Re: A Concern
I concur with Mike's and Mark's comments.
"At the risk of sounding redundant (viz. the many who have expressed
an opinion on this) I believe we need to keep the listserv as an open
forum. As others have mentioned, if there is a topic or discussion
that is not of interest to me I simply delete it and move on the the
next piece of mail."
It is quite encouraging to note that "-- this topic has certainly generated a flurry
of interest and activity!! I think the 1% is approaching 10% on this
one."
Although this is a rare piece of input from me since I have subscribed to
the listserv, I too have, enjoyed some of the discussions
and I may increase my participation in the future.
Lyn Lawrance
Department of Public Health Education
437L HHP Building
UNC Greeensboro
Greensboro NC 27412
Voice: (910) 334 3245
Fax: (910) 334 3238
email: lawrance@uncg.edu
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#1926
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:06:04 -0500
From: Tamara Lou Gallant
Subject: Re: A Concern
In-Reply-To: <9612051540.AA06325@mail1.halcyon.com>
I would like to add that speaking (posting) is not the only valuable part
of a communication system--listening is also key. A primary reason to join listservs
is to find
out what people are talking about (not just to have another vehicle for
speaking your views). Lurkers are also participating.
Tamara
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#1927
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:50:06 -0500
From: "Molly Laflin, PhD"
Subject: SAD STORY/WHAT SHOULD WE DO?
If true, this is indeed not just an incredibly sad story, but a
tragedy. My heart aches for the parents of this innocent child and for the
countless others who have suffered due to drug related violence. My first
reaction is to cry and then to rage in anger. Then when I'm calmer, I want
to do what I can to prevent similar incidents from happening.
How can we best do that? Should we get tougher? Crack down harder
on illegal traffickers? Would that help? In a statement about the war on
Drugs made last year to the NY Bar Association, William F. Buckley said:
"We are speaking of a plague that consumes an estimated $75 billion
per year of public money, exacts an estimated $70 billion a year from
consumers, is responsible for nearly 50 percent of the million Americans
who are today in jail, occupies an estimated 50 percent of the trial time
of our judiciary, and takes the time of 400,000 policemen -- yet a plague
for which no cure is at hand, nor in prospect. . . .
"We do know this, that more people die every year as a result of
the war against drugs than die from what we call, generically, overdosing."
. . .
"One dollar spent on the treatment of an addict reduces the
probability of continued addiction seven times more than one dollar spent
on incarceration. . . .Yet we are willing to build more and more jails in
which to isolate drug users even though at one seventh the cost of building
and maintaining jail space and pursuimg, dertaining, prosecuting the drug
user, we could subsidize commensurately effective medical care and
psychological treatment."
We currently incarcerate a higher percentage of our population than
any country in the world? Has it made us safer? Did Prohibition keep
children safe? No. Children were commonly used by bootleggers to
transport and sell liquor. Interestingly, Prohibition was initiated as a
way to "save the women and children" and it was repealed using the same
slogan. "Save the women and children, vote repeal."
As we health educators search for ways to help children and adults
choose to lead healthy lives that are in keeping with their personal values
(a summary of our mission as I learned it at the U of Maryland), it's very
human to yearn for easy "solutions" that might force people to behave as we
want them to. But people are not so easily forced, and sometimes it's
important, from a harm reduction perspective, to abandon our "in the box"
thinking and look for better ways to handle our problems.
Buckley and many leading economists, police chiefs, lawyers,
judges, physicians, and others suggest that the War on Drugs is
counter-productive to our goal of reducing the harm and violence associated
with drugs. I don't know what policies and laws would be best, but I think
we need to look closely at such issues and use caution in assuming that
more law enforcement would be better. I'm also fairly confident that
without the War on Drugs, the baby in this story would be alive and healthy
today.
Molly Laflin, Ph.D.
>I wanted to share this with you. It was shared with me by someone
>in my office.
>
>-------Begin Forwarded Message Here---------------------
>
>I live in New Mexico, very near the Texas-Mexico border and I have
>not heard any such story. However--living here I know that it very
>well could happen. Sad to think life has come to this.
Date:
>Thursday, October 17, 1996 12:04
>
> What does COCAINE meant to YOU?
>
>I believed that I was doing my part in the war on drugs by just not
>using and sending contributions to those who are directly involved,
>this is the story my sister told me that changed my mind and
>hopefully it will yours also, we have to do more, please send this
>E-mail to as many people as you can, if you have a home PC send it
>out there to.
>
>My sisters co-worker had a sister in Texas who, with her husband
>was planning a weekend trip across the border for a shopping spree,
>at the last minute their baby sitter canceled so they were stuck
>taking their two year old son with them. They had been across the
>border for about an hour when the baby got free and ran around a
>corner, the mother went chasing but he had disappeared, the mother
>went to find the police officer who told her to go directly to the
>border gate and wait, not really understanding she did as she was
>instructed.
>
>About 45 minutes later a man approached the border carrying the
>boy, the mother ran to him grateful he had been found, when the man
>realized it was the boys mother he dropped the boy and ran himself,
>the police were waiting for him and got him.
>
>The boy, dead, in the 45 minutes he was missing, was cut open, ALL
>of his insides removed and his body cavity stuffed with COCAINE.
>The man was going to carry him across the border as if he were
>asleep. A two year old boy, dead, discarded as if he were a piece
>of trash for sombodies cocaine.
>
>If this story can get out and change one persons mind about what
>drugs mean to them, we are helping, lets hope and pray it changes
>allot of minds.
>
>** Please share with other people**
>Raffy R. Luquis, Ph.D.
>(610)694-8972
************************************************************************
****
*****
Molly Laflin, Ph.D.
Professor, Health Education
215 Eppler North
Bowling Green State University
Bowling Green, Ohio 43403
419-372-0301W; 419-372-8216fax
mlaflin@bgnet.bgsu.edu
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#1928
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:30:13 -0500
From: rick petosa
Subject: Re: A Concern
I would like to reinforce Dr. Fors comments. Creating real "content" for the
HEDIR takes time and effort.
An effort that most of the 700 members do not make. For those that do take
the time, I appreciate their
input. I can recall several instances in which commited professionals made
the effort to contribute to the
HEDIR, were criticized, and stop making contributions. I would prefer
maximum participation from the largest number of contributors which
ultimately provides more "choices" for the consumers of the service.
Selectivity is then the responsibility of the user, but at least there are
choices.
rick petosa
At 08:33 AM 12/5/96 -0500, you wrote:
>How Can the System be improved? I see this "place" as a forum for all sorts
>of ideas (new or retread). Those of us who have been in this business for
>20-30 years may have heard and read many of the ideas before but some of
>the newer professionals either need to air their ideas and/or to read those
>from others. This list has many other valuable functions but I think the
>opportunity to exchange ideas, frustrations, philosophies in a timely way
>is wonderful. If I think I've heard something before, I just hit the discard
>key. stu fors
> Health Promotion and Behavior
> Univ. of Georgia
>
>
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#1929
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 13:14:35 -0800
From: Robert Collins
Subject: Re: A Concern
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961204201518.0070f778@saluki-mail.siu.edu>
Hi Mark,
Like most of us, I've been extremely busy the past few months and have
only periodically responded to messages on the HEDIR. I know how to use
the delete button, but the issue is why it's needed by so many, so often?
As the old commercial goes, "where's the beef"? Issues we all face in
this profession should be the focus and I have to congratulate Margo
Harris as one of the members of this list who seems to continuously keep
a focus on meaty info pertinent to our functions as health educators. Her
effort to identify and share relevant resources is appreciated. As soon as
the dust settles for me I hope to be a more active contributor and not
just a lurker.... Thanks Mark for your patience and all your hard work to
make this vehicle available for us... Ciao! Bob
Bob Collins 206-720-5038 (phone)
Center for Health Education & Research collinsb@u.washington.edu
University of Washington 206-720-5040 (fax)
1001 Broadway, Suite 100
Seattle, WA. 98122
On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D. wrote:
> The following memo was sent to me by a HEDIR subscriber with a concern. The
> information after this person's memo was my response to that individual.
> They gave me permission to send out their response, because I believe it is
> worth reading. Please read my response to this person. As technologies are
> available, growth periods can often be painful. I believe this person has
> indicated a positive feeling about HEDIR, but is concerned about some of its
> current practices.
>
> At 12:47 PM 12/2/96 -0800, you wrote:
> > Mark....Just a quick note....Although I generally am appreciative of
> > your efforts in developing this listserve, and think it is a good
> > idea,...I am growing VERY tired of the people like xxx, xxx, xxx and
> others who use this medium as a constant
> > "BLAH BLAH BLAH" for their own thoughts....Personally, I could care
> > less...I have heard from many others who just delete them; and of
> > course, I do this too...But...as a general rule, perhaps you could
> > kindly tell them to keep their personal opinions to a MINIMUM...ONce
> > per month might be a good guide, rather than a daily dose from xxx,
> > et al.
> >
> > I've thought about dropping the service and I know that my colleagues
> > are considering it too...However, why should we be compelled to drop
> > because a few individuals are so impressed with the sound of their own
> > voices and go on and on and on........It's the same old junk, again
> > and again..... the same debates.....the same people talking...
> >
> > It's a bleak rainy day here, and perhaps the weather is affecting my
> > mood,...but....I really am getting annoyed by all of this....Again,
> > don't take this personally....I know how much time and effort you put
> > in to what COULD be a great service....The FEW spoil and cheapen the
> > effectiveness for all....
> >
> > Hope all goes well at SIU....
>
>
> My response to this person:
>
> I am in the position where I will not censor anything posted. With that
> comes some good news and bad news. I appreciate your concern, and I hear it
> occassionally. I am personally against limiting people (first, how am I
> going to monitor this), but more importantly, there may be somebody who has
> an vested interested in a topic. Many people say they don't want to
> respond because they don't want to be like "one of the ones you describe",
> yet, if only a handful of
> people respond, then the ones like xxx, or xxx, etc. are definately the
> only ones who will appear on the screen. I would like to hear from more
> people--this is a forum for everybody. We have nearly 700 people on the
> list, and probably less than 1% post memos. Unfortunately, some even say
> they fear retribution if they send something out that some people may not
> like. That is somewhat defeating the purpose of the HEDIR.
>
>
> To the entire HEDIR: how can this system be improved?
> __________________________
> Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D.
> Owner and Founder of HEDIR
> Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle
> HEDIR Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle/HEDIR
>
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#1930
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:59:09 -0600
From: wohl royal
Subject: Re: A Concern
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961204201518.0070f778@saluki-mail.siu.edu>
Mark,
I just sent a response to you concerning my view about the listserve. In
my inexperience with posting, I forgot to sign my name. Sorry about that.
Hopefully, this message goes out to the entire listserve. If not, then I
don't know what to do. I wish I knew how to display "embarrassment" with
symbols.
Roy Wohl, PhD, CHES
Washburn University
Topeka, KS
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#1931
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:56:24 EDT
Reply-To: eglover@wvumbrcc1.hsc.wvu.edu
From: Elbert Glover
Organization: WVU Mary Babb Randolph Cancer Ctr.
Subject: Re: Blah, Blah, Blah
As a concerned professional, I belong to several listserves.
Moreover, I don't just delete the message without reading at least a
paragraph before determining if I wish to continue. It is not unsual
for me to come to the office in the morning and find 225+ messages.
Unfortunately, 90-95% are not where I choose to spend my time,
however, in most cases, I still have to open and close each one to
double check that I am not deleting something of importance;
consequently, the first 60-90 minutes of each day are wasted. All
that I ask is that users LEARN to use the reply button corrently,
most of us don't care about personal business and that could be
avoided by sending personal messages to the individual rather than
the entire listserve. Moreover, please use COMMON SENSE--not
everyone wishes to hear personal business. It seems since the birth
of this listserve, we go through peaks and valleys and every 6 months
we have this discussion--so I guess we're in a valley. Maybe to
efficiently use my time I should be deleting listserves rather than
messages. Unfortunately, to delete a listerve is throwing out the
baby with the bath water; however, that will be my sanity
option--that is, when it becomes too overwhelming, many of us will
have to start throwing out babies. For those of you that say, use
the delete button, that option still wastes 60-90 minutes a day!
Elbert D. Glover, PhD
Professor, Behavioral Medicine & Psychiatry
Director, Tobacco Research Center, MBR Cancer Center
West Virginia University's
Robert C. Byrd Health Sciences Center
P.O. Box 9300
Morgantown, WV 26506
Voice: (304) 293-6988
Fax: (304) 293-4693
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#1932
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:52:08 -0600
From: wohl royal
Subject: Re: A Concern
In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961204201518.0070f778@saluki-mail.siu.edu>
Mark -
I think you do a great job and appreciate all of the work it must take to
operate this list serve. I am one of the 99% that mostly reads and moves
on without responding. When I do respond, however, it is usually directly
to the person posting the message. At times I admit I do get a little
tired of some of the chatter I read, but I can, and do, operate my delete
button as well as anyone. I would never suggest to anyone that he/she
should limit their postings or that they be censored by any third party. I
enjoy reading most postings, as they are certainly food for thought and
have made me re-evaluate some of my own feelings about certain issues.
Keep up the good work!
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#1933
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:06:41 -0500
From: "Dr. Doris Abood"
Subject: Re: A Concern
For those of us working in multidisciplinary programs and thus do not have=
=20
the luxury of working directly with other health educators, the HEDIR is an=
=20
oasis. Perhaps a "chat" room can be developed as this system evolves and=20
those feeling rather unreceptive to others "stream of consciousness," can=20
opt for a more task-oriented posting. Until then, consider the delete=20
function as a form of catharsis for crankiness. =20
Doris A. Abood,=20
Nutrition, Food & Movement Sciences
Florida State University
>The following memo was sent to me by a HEDIR subscriber with a concern. =
The
>information after this person's memo was my response to that individual.
>They gave me permission to send out their response, because I believe it is
>worth reading. Please read my response to this person. As technologies are
>available, growth periods can often be painful. I believe this person has
>indicated a positive feeling about HEDIR, but is concerned about some of=
its
>current practices.
>
>At 12:47 PM 12/2/96 -0800, you wrote:
>> Mark....Just a quick note....Although I generally am appreciative of
>> your efforts in developing this listserve, and think it is a good
>> idea,...I am growing VERY tired of the people like xxx, xxx, xxx and
>others who use this medium as a constant
>> "BLAH BLAH BLAH" for their own thoughts....Personally, I could care
>> less...I have heard from many others who just delete them; and of
>> course, I do this too...But...as a general rule, perhaps you could
>> kindly tell them to keep their personal opinions to a MINIMUM...ONce
>> per month might be a good guide, rather than a daily dose from xxx,
>> et al.
>>
>> I've thought about dropping the service and I know that my colleagues
>> are considering it too...However, why should we be compelled to drop
>> because a few individuals are so impressed with the sound of their=
own
>> voices and go on and on and on........It's the same old junk, again
>> and again..... the same debates.....the same people talking...
>>
>> It's a bleak rainy day here, and perhaps the weather is affecting my
>> mood,...but....I really am getting annoyed by all of this....Again,
>> don't take this personally....I know how much time and effort you put
>> in to what COULD be a great service....The FEW spoil and cheapen the
>> effectiveness for all....
>>
>> Hope all goes well at SIU....
>
>
>My response to this person:
>
>I am in the position where I will not censor anything posted. With that
>comes some good news and bad news. I appreciate your concern, and I hear=
it
>occassionally. I am personally against limiting people (first, how am I
>going to monitor this), but more importantly, there may be somebody who has
>an vested interested in a topic. Many people say they don't want to
>respond because they don't want to be like "one of the ones you describe",
>yet, if only a handful of
>people respond, then the ones like xxx, or xxx, etc. are definately the
>only ones who will appear on the screen. I would like to hear from more
>people--this is a forum for everybody. We have nearly 700 people on the
>list, and probably less than 1% post memos. Unfortunately, some even say
>they fear retribution if they send something out that some people may not
>like. That is somewhat defeating the purpose of the HEDIR.
>
>
>To the entire HEDIR: how can this system be improved?
>__________________________
>Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D.
>Owner and Founder of HEDIR
>Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle
>HEDIR Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle/HEDIR
>
>
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#1934
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:19:09 -0800
From: Barbara Cooley
Subject: Re: A Concern
Comments: To: Tamara Lou Gallant
In-Reply-To:
I'm with Margo on this one. I spend half my time deleting, but it's OK.
Every once in awhile, I pick up something useful from something that I
delete---examples of how NOT to use resources, examples of how NOT to use
a listserve, and occasionally a smile.
I fail to understand why we get so caought up in the small stuff, while
bigger stuff (e.g.: reimbursement for health education services; the
direction of both sections in health education/services in APHA are
taking, etc.
Barbara Cooley, Univ. of WA
On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Tamara Lou Gallant wrote:
> Thanks for bringing this up publicly, Mark.
>
> My first thought was to notice the effort that goes into silencing
> certain contributions deemed by the loudest as
> unworthy or irrelevant to this (and other) listservs. There's always the
> effort to reduce junk mail (I gotta support that effort!) But a while ago
> a lot of discussion resulted in eliminating thoughts for the day, and other
> uplifting observations (which I personally appreciated)--Those
> who can't be bothered deleting have deleted for us all :(.
>
> I appreciate and support your policy of not sensoring messages, Mark.
> And prefer to delete on my own behalf. I also encourage the more
> progressive question: Why do more people not send messages & responses in?
>
>
> Tamara Lou Gallant, MPH
> University of Massachusetts Health Services
> Amherst, MA 01003-4310
> tgallant@uhs.umass.edu
>
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#1935
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:35:32 -0600
From: "Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D."
Subject: Site visit dates
Bill, before I contact the others--let me see about this #xxx
Date: February 22
through February 26th (Wednesday).
At 03:43 PM 11/30/96 CST, you wrote:
__________________________
Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D.
Owner and Founder of HEDIR
Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle
HEDIR Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle/HEDIR
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#1936
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:02:36 -0700
From: Theresa Byrd
Subject: Re: SAD STORY
I agree with you, Andy. I am right here on the US Mexico border and I have
never heard of such a thing. It certainly never made the El Paso papers!
At 10:30 AM 12/5/96 -0600, you wrote:
>This is indeed a disturbing tale, but I personally doubt its veracity. I
>cannot imagine that an incident such as this could have happened *anywhere*
>along the U.S.-Mexico border without being splashed across the front page of
>every newspaper and magazine in both countries, and without attracting the
>attention of at least one grand-standing politician. The supposed source of
>the story -- my sister's coworker's sister -- as well as the noticable lack
>of verifiable factual information as to names, dates and locations, gives it
>all the hallmarks of an urban legend.
>
> ----------------------> Andy Hall
> ----------------------> Galveston, Texas
>
>
Theresa Byrd, RN, Dr.P.H.
Assistant Professor of Behavioral Sciences
University of Texas-Houston
School of Public Health at El Paso
**Please note: As of June 1 my new address and phone will be:
UT Houston, School of Public Health at El Paso
1100 North Stanton, Suite 110
El Paso, TX 79902
(915) 747-8504
FAX (915) 747-8512
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#1937
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 17:09:04 -0500
From: "Molly Laflin, PhD"
Subject: PE/Time magazine/Food for Thought
Comments: cc: edmundson@mail.utexas.edu, Karol Kaye Harris
On page 34 of this weeks' "Time"
"New Tier offers its students . . . everything from international relations
and classical Greek to operatic choir and gourmet food. At New Tier,
there's nothing called gym class or phys ed; it's kinetic wellness."
************************************************************************
****
*****
Molly Laflin, Ph.D.
Professor, Health Education
215 Eppler North
Bowling Green State University
Bowling Green, Ohio 43403
419-372-0301W; 419-372-8216fax
mlaflin@bgnet.bgsu.edu
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#1938
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:54:38 -0500
From: Ed Meister
Greetings:
Request for listing of Email address on electronic Health Education
Directory.
Ed Meister Ph.D., Assistant Professor of Health Sciences
WSC
Email address: Emeister@worc.mass.edu
Thank You.
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#1939
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 17:16:56 -0500
From: John Canfield
Subject: Re: SAD STORY
Hall, Andy wrote:
> The supposed source of the story -- my sister's coworker's sister -- as well as the
noticable lack
> of verifiable factual information as to names, dates and locations, gives it all the
hallmarks of an urban
> legend.
Andy is right. This is an urban legend and a very common one. I happen to be a big
fan of urban legends and
this one is in many of the books I own on urban legends.
Later,
--
John C. Canfield, M.Ed., C.H.E.S.
Director of Public Awareness
AIDGwinnett, Inc.
725 Scenic Highway
P.O. Box 884
Lawrenceville, GA 30246-0884
(770) 962-8396
(770) 962-1291 Fax
Jccanfield@worldnet.att.net
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#1940
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 19:25:41 -0600
From: Raffy Luquis
Subject: SAD STORY - Response
Dear Colleagues:
Yesterday I posted a sad story. As I stated someone told me
the story, thus I have no way to verified the facts presented.
However, if I did not think that this kind of tragedy can happen, I
would not bother to share the story with you.
I was very disappointed to read that some of you thought that
the story was used to scare people or that this kind of killing
can't happen. Every night I watched "Primer Impacto", a news
program in Univision, the spanish channel on TV. You won't believe
all the sad stories that sometimes they present about tragic and
unrealistic incidences occuring in Central and South America, many
of them drug related. For example, a couple of months ago, they
presented a story of a whole family, parents and children, found
dead in their house. All the bodies were found cut in pieces in
top of each other, and the police had no clues why it did happen.
This is just one of some many tragic incidences happening there.
I know that some of you have never been exposed to this kind
of news or environment, but at least you could be a little more
open minded about it. I believe that the HEDIR is full of well
educated and open minded people that will not only understand the
severity of this kind of situation, but also will do anything to
prevent it to occuring again. That is why I shared the story with
you. Think about it!
Raffy R. Luquis, Ph.D.
(610)694-8972
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#1941
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 22:51:46 -0500
From: Imhepp@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: SAD STORY
Comments: To: GLOBALRN@itssrv1.ucsf.edu
I am numb from reading this story--I have never heard of anything so
horrible. May God have mercy on this world and the craziness we humans
justify for any reason.
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#1942
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 10:22:29 +0000
Reply-To: klein@ezw.uni-koeln.de
Comments: Authenticated sender is
From: Klaus Klein
Organization: HERU
Subject: Health Education International
The Health Education Research Unit , UNIVERSITY OF COLOGNE;
Faculty of Education offers field experiences, international seminars
with field trips(school health, work-site health promotion,
rehabilitation, accident prevention and injury-control,nutrition,
patient education-present research topics:communication aspects re-
garding : AIDS, Alzheimer and comparative studies regarding health
behaviour in the US., Western Europe, and Eastern Europe.
Prof.Dr.Klaus Klein
P.S. If you are interested let us know for further discussion.
Please reply to the following address:
klein@ezw.uni-koeln.de
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#1943
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 08:59:43 EST
From: STUFORS@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
Subject: positiion announcment
Position Available at the University of Georgia
The Department of Health Promotion and Behavior at the University of
Georgia invites applications for a tenure track position at the Assistant/
Associate Professor level. Minimum qualifications include: doctorate in
health promotion/education, public health, or related areas; evidence of
ability to produce and communicate research; competence in acquiring and
administering external funding; competence in teaching and working with
undergraduate and graduate students; commitment to issues related to cultural
diversity. We are interested in community health specialists, with a focus
in one or more of the following areas: evaluation research; health
communications; and/or the health of underserved or minority populations.
The position also involves teaching and advising undergraduate, master's and
doctoral students in health promotion and behavior. Applications postmarked
by February 14 are assured of consideration. The position is available
September, 1997. The University of Georgia is the state's land-grant
university with an enrollment of approximately 30,000 students. Coastal areas,
the Blue Ridge Mountains, and the city of Atlanta are nearby. The Department
is located in a new 34 million dollar facility, which is a key part of 200
million dollars of ongoing construction and expansion of campus facilities.
Please send a vitae, names, addresses, and phone numbers of four references,
and a concise statement of research and teaching areas to Dr. Judith
McLaughlin, Chair, Search Committee, Department of Health Promotion and
Behavior, 311 Ramsey Student Center, University of Georgia, Athens, GA
30602-3422. The University of Georgia is an Affirmative Action/Equal
Opportunity Employer and is committed to diversity within its community.
Women and minority candidates are particularly encouraged to apply.
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#1944
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 09:23:37 EST
From: R Olds
Subject: Re: Demand Management Research
In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:44:59 -0800 from
See the work of Larry Chapman for further insight regarding both demand
management and the economics of health promotion initiatives. Good reading!
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#1945
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 10:10:29 -0500
Reply-To: ludwigm@winthrop.edu
From: "Michael J. Ludwig"
Organization: Winthrop University
Subject: Re: SAD STORY - Response
While I understand Dr. Luquis' pique concerning the
"Sad Story" he posted a few days ago, it is also
important to remember we are a community of trained
questioners. It is our job to criticize and question.
Too many have difficulty accepting criticism and
questions for what they are: an attempt to learn.
True, they can degenerate into ad hominem attacks,
and if they do, that needs to be questioned as well.
Of course, then we get into issues of perception and
meaning which can spiral endlessly, if one believes
Derrida and the notion of an endless stream of
signification. However, assuming we have communities
of readers that can generally agree on the outlines
of meaning, we can have discussions and learn. The
alternatives are hopelessness and meaninglessness.
I vote for hope, meaning, and understanding...and a
willingness to accept questioning in the spirit
of intellectual exchange.
________________________________________________________
Michael J. Ludwig 803.323.4687 (voice)
Department of Health and Physical Education, 111 Peabody Building
Winthrop University, Rock Hill, SC 29733
"Meaning can neither be imposed nor denied" -Trinh Minh-Ha
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#1946
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 10:23:23 -0500
Reply-To: ludwigm@winthrop.edu
From: "Michael J. Ludwig"
Organization: Winthrop University
Subject: A Sad Story: Let's Have MORE!
Recently, Dr. Raffy Luquis posted a message entitled "A
Sad Story." While I addressed the issue of response
and critique in another post, this could be an excellent
opportunity to bring more HEDIR lurkers out of the closet,
so to speak.
What I am suggesting is that we need MORE folks to
contribute stories, regardless of the veracity of the
story. Stories can be a way to discuss issues relevant to
the profession, much as law school uses case studies
to learn the law. Wouldn't this be a productive use of
inviting multiple perspectives on an issue? By having
someone post a story (as Raffy did), all who choose to
participate can interpret the story and make suggestions
for ways to address the issue at hand as health education
professionals?
Any thoughts?
--
________________________________________________________
Michael J. Ludwig 803.323.4687 (voice)
Department of Health and Physical Education, 111 Peabody Building
Winthrop University, Rock Hill, SC 29733
"Meaning can neither be imposed nor denied" -Trinh Minh-Ha
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#1947
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 08:56:53 -0700
From: Theresa Byrd
Subject: Re: SAD STORY
Seriously folks--incase my message didn't get through--I don't think this
really happened!!!!
At 10:51 PM 12/5/96 -0500, you wrote:
>I am numb from reading this story--I have never heard of anything so
>horrible. May God have mercy on this world and the craziness we humans
>justify for any reason.
>
>
Theresa Byrd, RN, Dr.P.H.
Assistant Professor of Behavioral Sciences
University of Texas-Houston
School of Public Health at El Paso
**Please note: As of June 1 my new address and phone will be:
UT Houston, School of Public Health at El Paso
1100 North Stanton, Suite 110
El Paso, TX 79902
(915) 747-8504
FAX (915) 747-8512
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#1948
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 09:00:22 -0700
From: Theresa Byrd
Subject: Re: SAD STORY - Response
I agree that these things can and do happen, but Raffy--Primer Impacto is
really NOT a news program, do you think? It seems to be considered not very
reliable around here (El Paso Juarez area). It is more of a tabloid news
program--lots of sensationalism.
At 07:25 PM 12/5/96 -0600, you wrote:
>Dear Colleagues:
>
> Yesterday I posted a sad story. As I stated someone told me
>the story, thus I have no way to verified the facts presented.
>However, if I did not think that this kind of tragedy can happen, I
>would not bother to share the story with you.
>
> I was very disappointed to read that some of you thought that
>the story was used to scare people or that this kind of killing
>can't happen. Every night I watched "Primer Impacto", a news
>program in Univision, the spanish channel on TV. You won't believe
>all the sad stories that sometimes they present about tragic and
>unrealistic incidences occuring in Central and South America, many
>of them drug related. For example, a couple of months ago, they
>presented a story of a whole family, parents and children, found
>dead in their house. All the bodies were found cut in pieces in
>top of each other, and the police had no clues why it did happen.
>This is just one of some many tragic incidences happening there.
>
> I know that some of you have never been exposed to this kind
>of news or environment, but at least you could be a little more
>open minded about it. I believe that the HEDIR is full of well
>educated and open minded people that will not only understand the
>severity of this kind of situation, but also will do anything to
>prevent it to occuring again. That is why I shared the story with
>you. Think about it!
>Raffy R. Luquis, Ph.D.
>(610)694-8972
>
>
Theresa Byrd, RN, Dr.P.H.
Assistant Professor of Behavioral Sciences
University of Texas-Houston
School of Public Health at El Paso
**Please note: As of June 1 my new address and phone will be:
UT Houston, School of Public Health at El Paso
1100 North Stanton, Suite 110
El Paso, TX 79902
(915) 747-8504
FAX (915) 747-8512
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#1949
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 11:07:47 -0500
From: "Dr. Ruth Busman"
Subject: Re: SAD STORY - Response
>Dear Colleagues:
>
> Yesterday I posted a sad story. As I stated someone told me
>the story, thus I have no way to verified the facts presented.
>However, if I did not think that this kind of tragedy can happen, I
>would not bother to share the story with you.
>
> I was very disappointed to read that some of you thought that
>the story was used to scare people or that this kind of killing
>can't happen. Every night I watched "Primer Impacto", a news
>program in Univision, the spanish channel on TV. You won't believe
>all the sad stories that sometimes they present about tragic and
>unrealistic incidences occuring in Central and South America, many
>of them drug related. For example, a couple of months ago, they
>presented a story of a whole family, parents and children, found
>dead in their house. All the bodies were found cut in pieces in
>top of each other, and the police had no clues why it did happen.
>This is just one of some many tragic incidences happening there.
>
> I know that some of you have never been exposed to this kind
>of news or environment, but at least you could be a little more
>open minded about it. I believe that the HEDIR is full of well
>educated and open minded people that will not only understand the
>severity of this kind of situation, but also will do anything to
>prevent it to occuring again. That is why I shared the story with
>you. Think about it!
>Raffy R. Luquis, Ph.D.
>(610)694-8972
Bless your heart, Raffy. Pray for the children of this world. All of
them. Even the older ones.
Dr. Ruth C. Busman M.P.H. busman@luther.csp.edu
Health Science Education
Coordinator Bush Foundation Grant for Faculty Development
Concordia College, St. Paul, MN
Office: 612.641.8858
Facsimile: 612.641.8727
"Educating the whole-person of God"
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#1950
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 09:47:39 -0800
From: Gina Rodriguez
Subject: The List-server's experience #2
I am a graduate student taking a course in computer technology at the
graduate school of public health at San Diego State University. In learning
more about list-serves and their role in public health I would like to
present information on the experiences of the members of this list-serve.
Below are a few questions I have.
1. How are you involved with Public Health?
2. What state/area are you from?
3. How did you find out about this list-serve?
4. Why did you Join?
5. How long have you been a member?
6. How many members did you personally know before joining this lis