===================================================================== ==== #802 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 09:34:14 -0400 From: Mary KrienerSubject: Re: Clarification of request - secon. curric I would have to disagree on Discover Health. I reviewed these materials as well and found the organization to be good and intriguing enough to make me want to take a closer look. Upon closer look (i.e. reading the content), I was very disappointed with the superficial coverage of information. The structure had merit, but the depth just wasn't there in my opinion. ===================================================================== ==== #803 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:19:03 -0400 From: Michael Pejsach Subject: Re: evaluating Internet info Are WEB PAGES the only resource on the INTERNET being evaluated? Aren't there other services (like 1,000,000 First Class Server/Conference/BBS services and over 1 million others)? Are we confusing Web sites with INTERNET? ===================================================================== ==== #804 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:23:01 -0400 From: Michael Pejsach Subject: Re: Job bank HEEF JOB BANK The HEEF is on the internet at 206.218.187.2 The HEEF is NOT a WEB page on the NET, but we do have a SUPPORT web site at the same address. This WEB SITE links to the site (www.softarc.com) where you can get the FREE software to call into the HEEF. It also has information and illustrations of what you get when you call HEEF. OUR WEB ADDRESS: http://heef.doe.state.la.us/ OR: http://206.218.187.2/ (same thing) HEEF is a First Class Server (you'll see the screen pictures at the web site). You can ALSO call us DIRECT via modem with ANY telecommunications software, like Smartcom or others. Our modem number is 504-342-3733 (free). Or, you get the software and set it to 206.218.187.2 on the set-up page. Here's how: after loading run FCC. You'll see a login dialog box with a little SETUP button on the right side. Press the set up button. Another dialog box will open. Make the changes you'll need: Select TCP/IP at the top and add the internet address number above where it says NETWORK address. Dat's it! First Class Client (2.6 or higher) runs on a Mac or Windows. First Class Client is necessary to call us on the Net. After getting in, go to CONFERENCES. Double click on that folder. You'll see our JOB BANK FOLDER. Check it out. You can also upload your resume on this system. THIS IS A FREE SERVICE. ===================================================================== ==== #805 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 10:16:55 -0700 From: Margo Harris Subject: Re: web technology & health ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB3751.6C811C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think I focus on many of the same uses you have named, Donna. I would = add some of these additional health and non-health uses. 1. OTC drug info as well as prescription 2. Employment searching 3. Training vendors/resources 4. Educational resources - related to coursework I'm doing, as well as = my own professional development, i.e. adult learning theory, etc. Great = site on learning theory at GWU - http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~kearsley/ 5. Quote sites for use in presentations 6. alt.support groups for different chronic diseases I work on 7. New teaching/training resources, publishers home pages, etc. Check = out Activing Learning: 101 Strategies to Teach Any Subject by Mel = Silberman from Allyn and Bacon 8. Listservs - just like this one! I'm sure there are more, but those are some of my Wednesday AM thoughts! = Margo Margo Harris Harris Training & Consulting Services htcs@halcyon.com=20 ===================================================================== ==== #806 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 10:26:09 -0700 From: Margo Harris Subject: Re: Rating the Net ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB3751.7EEF20E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Paul - After about a dozen hits in an hour, I added a second, more = detailed message to the list. Hope that helps. I would add a suggestion that you develop a close, personal = relationship with a medical librarian on or off campus. I do not have a = university affiliation. The conference affirmed something I found out = some time ago. Medical librarians see themselves as resources for the = university/medical center they represent, as well as the community at = large. They believe that historically right up to present day their = role includes review, evaluation, recommondation of worthy, credible = resources--in house or virtual! We were encouraged to find a medical = librarian we could call at 2 AM when approaching killer grant deadlines! = We were also encouraged to take them to lunch at a later date (and = time) to maintain the relationship! Margo Margo Harris Harris Training & Consulting Services htcs@halcyon.com - ===================================================================== ==== #807 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:27:19 -0700 From: Margo Harris Subject: Rating Other Internet Services ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB3751.8DCCABA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What a great question, Michael! I think some people do that, i.e. = equate Web sites with the Internet. The librarians would tell you that = they evaluate--and are willing to evaluate--any and all services, but = their strength is in content, credibility, etc. They will tell you = their limitations and what services they are not qualified to evaluate = or frankly are not familiar with. Margo Margo Harris Harris Training & Consulting Services htcs@halcyon.com ===================================================================== ==== #808 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 15:45:37 -0400 From: "Lea S. Dooley" Subject: FWD from Dennis Martell , re Academic Freedom (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 11:33:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Cecily C. Criminale To: mapsse Subject: FWD from Dennis Martell , re Academic Freedom In reply to Academic Freedom, Dawn, I would not even think about ever adding a disclaimer to any of the Human Sexuality courses I have ever taught, teach, or will teach. It would open the flood-gates of those who set sexuality apart from who we are as men and women. I would have no problem resfusing to teach, leave, or quit my position if I was ever asked to do this for reasons of bowing to one complaint, or any Pat Bucannan want-a-be. We as educators, especially sexuality educators need to stand on our pedagogy philosophy concerning those who would restrict knowledge through the classroom or otherwise. I would advise that you contact SIECUS for more help and understanding, as well as numbers. Dennis P. Martell Ph.D. Center for Sexual Health Promotion Michigan State University & Lansing Community College ===================================================================== ==== #809 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 15:47:21 -0400 From: "Lea S. Dooley" Subject: Re: Academic Freedom/Human Sexuality Course (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:34:10 -0400 From: Dr. Robert W. Hatfield To: mapsse@lists.nyu.edu Subject: Re: Academic Freedom/Human Sexuality Course (fwd) I have been teaching Human Sexuality at the University of Cincinnati for 14 years to 1500-2000 students per year. I have a very mild "disclaimer" in my extensive syllabus which merely says that this is a sexuality course for adults, and that if they believe they might be offended by media nudity or frank discussions of human sexuality, they should drop the course. Knock on wood ...no major incidents since the class began in 1972. A humorous one though... Several years ago the class was watching "Achieving Sexual Maturity" (Hippies on the Beach, Part 1) when a touring group of parents and high school seniors stuck their heads in the large lecture hall. I didn't see them, but the dean contacted my dept. head who immediately contacted me. I seems they had looked in just at the brief masturbation scene. No problem and no negative outcome. I've always believed the students immediately decided to attend U.C., but that their parents may have refused. >Whew!!! Now here are my questions: > >1. Do any of you personally include a disclaimer on your human >sexuality course syllabus? If so, what does it look like? If not, JUST >SAY NO! > >2. What do you think about putting a disclaimer on a human sexuality >course syllabus? > >3. Has anything like this ever happened to you, and how did you deal >with it? > >I appreciate as many responses as I can get, particularly to question >#1. I would very much like to provide a numeric response to the dean, >so the more responses I get, the better my case AGAINST placing a legal >disclaimer on my course syllabus in the future. I am scheduled to teach >human sexuality summer, fall and winter in 1996/97. I think the person >currently teaching the class would welcome the opportunity to read your >responses as well. > >Thanks in advance for participating. And Mark Kittleson, thank you for >providing this forum. > >Sincerely, > >Dawn Graff-Haight >dawn@upa.pdx.edu > > /////////////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ \\\\\\ Robert W. Hatfield, Ph.D. University of Cincinnati Psychological Services Center 316 Dyer Hall, ML #0034 Cincinnati, OH 45221-0034 (513) 556-3949 FAX: (513) 556-1904 "Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps." -- Emo Phillips -- \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////////////////////// ////// ===================================================================== ==== #810 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 16:17:34 -0600 From: Pete LeRoy Subject: Use of Student Evaluations Colleagues: I realize this is an old issue revisited but.....would you please be kind enough to provide me with your opinions, facts, or perhaps better yet, what research says about the following topics [where appropriate]? Briefly..... 1. "What role should student evaluations of teacher [professor] effectiveness/performance play in one's retention, tenure, and/or promotion?" 2. "What role should peer evaluations of teacher [professor] effectiveness/performance play in one's retention, tenure, and/or promotion?" 3. "What is the accepted procedure currently in place in your department, school, and/or college?" In advance, I thank you very much! Pete LeRoy Texas Tech University ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our Web site at http://www.ttu.edu/~hper ------- C.H. LeRoy, Ph.D., CHES | || Dept. of HPER - Texas Tech University | ||____ MS 3011, Lubbock, TX 79407-3011 | * \\ Ph. (806) 742-2940 | -- Fax (806) 742-1688 ----- Texas \\ E-mail UNCHL@TTACS.TTU.EDU \ USA // \ --- --// -------------------------------------- // \ // * Schedule your end-of Century party \ // for the right date! \ // The correct last day of the 20th C. is V) 31 Dec. 2000 (not 1999--there was no year 0) ===================================================================== ==== #811 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 17:48:34 -0600 Reply-To: The International Electronic Mail Directory for Health Educators From: Marilyn Massey Subject: Re: Service Learning Interest Group Jerry, I'm still interested -- thanks for your efforts in organizing this group! Marilyn S. Massey, EdD, CHES Assistant Professor of Health Dept. of HPER - Texas Tech University Box 43011, Lubbock, TX 79409-3011 Ph. 806 742-2332 Fax 806 742-1688 unmsm@ttacs.ttu.edu Visit our Web site at http://www.ttu.edu/~hper ===================================================================== ==== #812 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:08:28 -0500 From: "Marjorie E. Scaffa" Subject: Re: educational theory and health education In-Reply-To: <9604061258.AB00508@jaguar1.usouthal.edu> This note (from Ansa) appeared almost a month ago and I was one who responded that I would like to be part of a dialogue on theory issues, so here goes.... A few years ago, I completed some research on theory development in health education. The purpose of this research was to "test the waters" regarding the importance, desirability and feasibility of developing macro or comprehensive theory specific to health education. The study defined "comprehensive theory" as a scientific theory (using Stephen Hawking's definition) that incorporates all of the essential elements needed for the practice of health education irrespective of setting or target population". Another way to think of this is as a "generic theory" that could potentially spin off more specialized models. The study utilized a mixed quantitative/qualitative design. The qualitative portion used the Delphi method and the quantitative portion was a survey of chairs of health education doctoral programs, key leaders in all of the health education professional associations and members of the Delphi panel who were selected for their expertise in health education theory and/or theory development. I do not want to get into a major treatise on methodological issues here, but would however like to share some of the general findings for discussion purposes. Some general indications from the research: 1. The majority who were surveyed agreed that the development of "comprehensive theory" specific to health education is important and desirable, many however rated the task as not very feasible. 2. According to the Delphi panelists, many of the barriers to developing such a theory were related to the size and complexity of the task and to idiosyncracies in the profession of health education. For example, the complexity of health behavior, conflicting goals/philosophies in the field, lack of theoretical training in professional preparation programs, and limited agreement on the basic definitions in the field. 3. The Delphi panelists consensus indicated that for such an endeavor to be successful it would need the buy-in from health education professional associations, involvement of a wide cross-section of health educators, and effective leadership/critical thinkers. In addition, the profession would need to increase the number of health educators trained in theory development. There are some/many(?) in our profession who do not see the need for health education-specific theory in our discipline and are content borrowing from other disciplines or utilizing fragments of theory currently available in health education. This is obviously a valid issue/position that can and should be discussed. Some of you may remember participating in the study I just described, and some may recall hearing me report the results of this study at AAHPERD in Portland last year. I am hopeful that those who are interested can renew the dialogue that was begun in Portland over a year ago. Marjorie E. Scaffa, Ph.D. University of South Alabama On Sat, 6 Apr 1996, SENDER: ANSA.OJANLATVA@UTU.FI wrote: > Re: curriculum theory > > I am getting some good solid responses mailed to me directly regarding this > issue. From where I sit (or stand, if you will), I feel this would be a good > time to carry out a theoretical conversation on the topic. Would you be ready > for it right now? I think it would be important. > > It would seem reasonable that those who teach health education theory and > philosophy would need to cover a variety of theories and models. From what I a m > reading, model development seems to be the chosen way to go and develop this > profession further. Since models traditionally seem to involve development fro m > a number of larger theories (and there are no solid health education theories to > draw from???), this is the chosen direction for curriculum development in > health education... (At least this is the way I perceive the matter to be.) > > The education professionals in Finland refer to constructionist ideas in the > development of new curricula, and I have had a member of of this network > mention this theory (Steve, would you like to repeat your comments here?) > Does it provide the way for us to move forward? > > In medicine, theory development does not seem important. Medical education > dissertations are being written without a mention to educational theory > (or sometimes any other theory) and criticized by the education professionals. > > Jill and others, what do you teach about health education curriculum > development within the lists of theories you cover for future professionals? > Do you explain different theories for different settings? Do you > go into educational theory/theories? Do Newman, Dewey, Hutchins, Kerr and > others matter when health education is being applied to general education > programs? Who are the leading people in clinical curriculum theory (at e.g. > Kaiser Permanente or medical education programs at the medical schools > when programs are being set up)? What about the health education theory base > for the educational programs of the profession (such as SIU, Ball State, > Illinois. etc.) at the present time? > > I do not remember that the discussion a year ago would have netted any > substantial amount of information --at least I do not recall it. Would there b e > interest in it now? Ansa. > > PS: I will not be able to access www programs at this point and it would be > important to have the discussion within this network. Thank you. > > ************************ > Ansa Ojanlatva, PhD, CSE, docent > faculty member and Coordinator > Dept Public Health Sexology Program > Lemminkaisenkatu 1 Center for Reproductive and > 20014 University of Turku Developmental Medicine > Finland > > tel. +358-21-333 8513 (+358-21-333 81 operator) > > FAX +358-21-333 8439 > > (Please note the new "zip" code and telephone/fax "prefix") > ************************ > ===================================================================== ==== #813 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 08:08:53 -0400 From: "Carol J. Teske" Subject: Exercise adherence in ex-athletes I have been lurking for almost six months and forwarding to the members of my department those discussions and/or topics in which I believed they might have an interest. As a result of these forwarded messages, I have a colleague, Fred Garman, who would like to request information about athletes and exercise adherence. Question: Does anyone know of any studies relevant to what types of exercise is engaged in by athletes who are no long active intercollegiate or interscholastic athletes? Do they continue to participate in some form of exercise program? What type? Any information will be appreciated. Thank you for your help. ===================================================================== ==== #814 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 08:38:18 -0500 From: Kelli Brown Subject: Graduate Assistantship Available Gradaute Assistantship available for Fall 1996. The Department of Health Sciences, Health Education program, has a graduate assistantship available. It carries a stipend of $5400.00 for the nine-month school year, plus a full tuition waiver for two semesters and one summer. Responsibilities include teaching introductory courses in Drugs in Lifestyles. Applicants interested in the position should contact Dr. Marilyn Morrow, Health Education Program Director, 309-438-8329 OR mmorrow@ilstu.edu. ===================================================================== ==== #815 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 09:49:56 -0500 From: Kelli Brown Subject: Graduate Assistantship Available Illinois State University, Normal IL Department of Health Sciences Health Education Program Graduate Assistantship available for Fall 1996. The Department of Health Sciences, Health Education Program, has an assistantship available. It carries a stipend of $5400.00 for the nine-month school year, plus a full tuition waiver for two semesters and one summer. Responsibilities include teaching introductory courses in Drugs in Lifestyles. Applicants interested in the position should contact Dr. Marilyn Morrow, Health Education Program Director, 309-438-8329 OR mmorrow@ilstu.edu. ===================================================================== ==== #816 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 13:41:59 -0400 From: "Lea S. Dooley" Subject: Re: Use of Student Evaluations In-Reply-To: <9605012217.AA01406@is.nyu.edu> Once more into the fray....... In response to Pete Leroy's questions regarding student evaluations of teachers, I have a few things to say as a student. Every year since I was a freshman in undergrad I have been asked to fill out a student evaluation form for my classes. Every year I do this and every year I am disappointed. I am currently in my second year of a MPH degree program at New York University. I have never found evidence that student evaluations are either read or paid any attention to. This is, as you can imagine, an extremely frustrating experience. Unwilling to believe that the institution of my choice was so caulous to student evaluations, I would quiz other students who had taken the same teacher or course - I rarely found differing opinions. The problem is that our opinions have not always been good! In my undergrad institution I found that for at least the four years that I attended, the head of the math department was five years over retirement age, the oldest tenured professor there, and very ill. He suffered from Parkinson's which made it sometimes impossible to understand him verbally or understand what he had written on the board. He also was so exhausted all the time that he was not avcailable for outside help and couldn't complete problems that he put up on the board. We never knew if our answers on tests and quizes were truly wrong or rihht, since we always found mistakes in his corrects and grades. Now I understand that this is an extreme case - but I needed this class and I was passed out of it without knowing much about statistics and that means I wasted my money. When I asked administration about the situation, they brushed it off and said that they didn't want to be the person to tell him that he was too old or sick to teach anymore. Now I can appreciate this, and I liked my prof. as a person - but can you justify years of student evaluations saying that we aren't getting the information we need in certain classes for reasons that have to do with the teacher? On the other side of the coin - and so you know that I am not on a teacher-bashing rant - I have had several excellent visiting professors that were open about being evaluated to be retained by the institution. Those professors received glowing reccommendations and out of the 4 that I have had classes with in this situation - Not One Was Retained. There are always extentuating circumstances, yes, but when I asked these teachers, they had no answers as to why someone else was hired. From a purely capitalist point of view - I know that most schools are businesses and need teachers that are publishing or doing research, etc. When they are hired to teach and do research - often the class suffers. What it comes down to is this - whose needs are being addressed here? I happen to believe that students are the schools gravy train and we should therefore have classes that are worth taking. PArticularly for Master's and Doctoral programs. We're being trained and if the class is a bust not only have we wasted outrageous amounts of our money, but we don't get trained either and then our fields are filled with incompetent people. If this was particularly harsh, I apologize. Since this is the end of the semester I am in the middle of writing out more teacher evaluations and I am faced again with the dispair of putting in my time and energy into an evaluation that will never be seen or used. I'd love to hear back from someone in any schools' administration on how these are used at different schools. Because if they are used - as a student I can tell you that we're not seeing the impact of our time energy and words. Lea Dooley MPH Candidate New York University ===================================================================== ==== #817 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 14:49:49 -0700 From: Margo Harris Subject: Don't Apologize, Lea ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB383A.52E33060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lea, I think you touched on an issue that reaches us all, whether = students or faculty. You aren't the only one feeling frustrated, and I = didn't object to you voicing that. I'd make sure you administration = knows in clear, unemotional terms about your thoughts. As a student at the moment, I've had similar and dissimilar = experiences. I am completing a 3-quarter program in Training. In the = first quarter, we had a mid quarter evaluation of the teacher/course. = The teachers (it was team taught) read the evaluations and made = substantive changes in how the course was conducted for the remainder of = the quarter. We congratulated and thanked them. In the second quarter, = there was no mid-quarter evaluation, and we had one grossly = inappropriate an poor teacher. Several students visited the = administrator responsible and voiced concerns. We were told that the = teacher refused to do the evaluation and stated it wasn't necessary; so = the school went along with her. The administration assured us that it = wouldn't happen again. In 3rd quarter, we had mid-quarter evaluations, = with no remarkable difference to date. So experiences vary.=20 Write, visit, however, make your concerns known in a factual, = documented (where possible) way. There are times I've had thought = courses should be offered with a money back guarantee! I know the = academics will like that. One of the comments the class made to the = administrator in 2nd quarter was, "If this course was offered with a = money back guarantee, you would have a line of 35 students requesting a = refund." He said that comment sent a pretty powerful message. Margo Margo Harris Harris Training & Consulting Services htcs@halcyon.com ===================================================================== ==== #818 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 17:42:58 CDT From: Joyce Morris Subject: Re: forwarding messages It is a breach of etiquette to forward message without the permission of the person who sent the message. Although many people will state it is ok there are many people, for many different reasons, who do not want their posts forwarded. Their wishes should be respected. Mark, maybe this should go into the introductory message - this is the second time in a fairly short while that it has come up on the list. Joyce Morris ===================================================================== ==== #819 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 18:13:14 CDT From: Joyce Morris Subject: Re: teacher evaluations The answer to your question is that they are used in a variety of ways from not at all to for every decision which is made relative to that instructor. The standards applied to the results also greatly vary. There are a number of problems with course evaluations ranging from a lack of reliability and validity to problems with getting students to take them seriously. Although the students may have commented to you that the teacher was a really bad teacher there is a great likelihood that the evaluations did not reflect this or did not reflect it to the degree that their comments to you reflected. If you have concerns about an instructor there are a number of things that you should do. First, when you first detect a problem, go talk to the instructor. Don't wait for the course evaluations to say that the teacher was bad. The powers that be will discount anything you say if you have made no efforts to correct the problems. Also do not assume that the instructor knows and/or is unwilling to work with you in correcting the problem(s). If you are not satisfied with the results when you talk to the instructor go the program director or department chair. Talk to them about your concerns. But realize that they may or may not be able to do anything at that point. It does not mean that nothing will be done. The same is true with the instructor; depending on the nature of the problem it may or may not be possible to make mid-course corrections. An example of this is last semester one of the texts for a course I was teaching was a problem. At that point I could not change the text or have no text. After the course is over, if you think it is warranted, write a letter to the program director, chair, or dean stating what the problems were and how you think they could be corrected. Actually at all of the levels you should have some idea of what you think should be done to correct the problem [and be realistic - an instructor is not going to get fired in the middle of the semester or even probably at the end of the semester]. Remember that a university is no different from any other employer. A strong, DOCUMENTED case must be made before someone is fired. The employee must be given sufficient warnings and allowed to make corrections. Universities have particular problems because although students complain a lot to each other and even sometimes to some faculty, they rarely commit those complaints to paper. I cannot tell you how many students I had in my office complaining about a particular professor that I urged to file formal complaints about. I can tell you that the course evaluations did not show this professor to be bad and I only had one student who actually bothered to write a letter of complaint. If you want a really good understanding of why little is often done to professors you perceive to be bad teachers I would urge you to take a labor management course or a human resource management course. You will also gain an understanding of what you need to do to have an impact for change. And you might want to also do some reading on the reliability and validity [or lack thereof] of course evaluations. Joyce Morris Health Services Organization and Policy Wichita State University morris@islchp.uc.twsu.edu ===================================================================== ==== #820 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 08:37:30 GMT+0200 From: "SENDER: ANSA.OJANLATVA@UTU.FI" Subject: Re: educational theory and health education In-Reply-To: "Your message dated Wed, 01 May 1996 18:08:28 -0500" <01I47P0YRMIA9D9HS9@sara.cc.utu.fi> Warning--this is a little long... Marjorie, I did not know who the Marjorie was in Petosa's suggestion. Now I know. Thank you. Portland was out of my reach at the time. I hope you published your study as well (reference?). I would particularly like to see the methodology of the study (delphi) as I am interested in that method myself and need references. When I worked in the States, I took it for granted that I had the support of my peers. The real world is way different out here. Finland was "ahead" in health education in the 1970s, so to speak. Right now, changing health habits is the "in-thing". If you are a smoker and plan to quit, you get all the support you ask for. Health education monies go to the same. Yet, I do not see HEALTH EDUCATION references cited. I see medical references and psychological references cited. Even in health education. (Personal good health as well as the tidious work needed to keep everything going is considered self-evident. I would like those of us who have succeeded in staying --I hear I still look too young...-- as good role models, to get some rewards for it. Or do we have to get some bad habits and then be reformed in order to get support for our work?) Even the education professionals consider health education a side show... Support for my HEALTH EDUCATION is still in the States. Meanwhile, one of the universities has begun to train health educators directly from high school. I am afraid they are being socialized into oblivion unless this culture changes in substantial ways, quickly. --This is not exactly the most positive of cultures. Cognitively goal oriented, emotionally "absent". --(Students now have information about HEDIR student network). I believe that a part of the reasons (for citations) is that we have either failed to develop our own "comprehensive theory" as you put it, Marjorie, (and why not feasible?) or do not see the need (as in your summary). Green and Kreuter's work does not reach the "education" in health education very well, or the medical thinkers. One of my (present) interest involves general education -type education for university students. General Education Theory (Howard) discusses the various approaches, but I am not at all sure that the faculty planning health education for general education considered those points. Or did they? And I would envision that the theory building for the health education courses would stem from health education, not from education alone. Is our undergraduate programming general education or is it professional education? If university is not to prepare professionals, then all undergraduate education would be expected to be liberal education.?? Yet, companies complain that university teachers are not facing the demands of the real world --at least not here (not necessarily focusing on health education). Would theory discussion help? Someone should be thinking about the total picture of where in the world we fit. Perhaps it is me; I have chosen to follow a path that is not exactly clear. I hear the word "pioneer" almost daily; I was that over 20 year ago, not any longer, in my mind. But here, health education is really new, again. To add fuel to the fire: our undergraduate medical education was evaluated last month. The committee reported that they are concerned about the a lack of the general curriculum, and in so doing, some of the topics --such as health promotion, disease prevention, ethics, child health development-- may not be adequately covered. (Only the largest program areas of 54 were evaluated). The positive side of it is that our program got visibility through the recommendation. The negative side of it is that they had not heard e.g. that students reported feeling of success as a result of the health promotion course. If we were to reverse the medical model, I would tend to think that we would need to give these students a chance to experience a feeling of success in their own lives --before they attempt to influence change in others' lives. Correct? --We already use the kinds of learning approaches the committee recommended... Whether I have succeeded in seeing forest from the trees, I do not know, but I feel that the kind of "comprehensive" theory Marjorie is referring to would be needed in order for us to see health education literature cited in health education by medical professionals who work with health education. Or should we keep reinventing the wheel? Ansa. ************************ Ansa Ojanlatva, PhD, CSE, docent faculty member and Coordinator Dept Public Health Sexology Program Lemminkaisenkatu 1 Center for Reproductive and 20014 University of Turku Developmental Medicine Finland (http//www.utu.fi/tdk/laak/crede) tel. +358-21-333 8513 (+358-21-333 81 operator) FAX +358-21-333 8439 ************************ ===================================================================== ==== #821 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 21:06:20 -0500 From: Lawrence Green Subject: Re: intern opportunities in Australia In-Reply-To: <199604261635.JAA02182@unixg.ubc.ca> Above (in cc:) are some Australians involved in more than straight academic health promotion who might be willing to consider taking an American health education/health promotion student as an intern. --Larry Green On Fri, 26 Apr 1996, Donna Champeau wrote: > I am in charge of the Health Promotion/Education interns here at > Oregon State University and have had a request from a student for > information/contacts in Australia. Does anyone have a connection for > possible intern opportunities in Australia? If so, I would appreciate > any information you could give me. Thanks > > Donna Champeau > Champead@ccmail.orst.edu > ===================================================================== ==== #822 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 22:31:27 -0400 From: "Lea S. Dooley" Subject: Re: Academic Freedom/Human Sexuality Course (fwd) This actually goes out to Dawn regarding her questions. It seems there is still some confusion regarding forwarding email. Food for thought Lea Dooley ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 15:19:33 EST From: JULIE A. MILLER To: "Lea S. Dooley" Subject: Re: Academic Freedom/Human Sexuality Course (fwd) Lea, You have my sympathy. I teach a Sexual Health Peer Health Facilitation Class. Each semester, the Peers who I teach are to present 3 HIV/AIDS & STD programs in Psychology 101 lab. They are graded on these presentations, so they are vital to the course. In previous years, I have had an excellent working relationship with the Psychology department, which is the main reason the Psych. 101 course was singled out for the Peers to present to. In the course of a year, approximately 1500 to 2000 students take the Psych. 101 course. As a part of the Peer presentation, condoms are discussed, a demo is done by the Peer instructors, and wooden penis models are passed out to the students along with condoms and lube to practice the skill of correctly putting on and removing a condom. Students are told that they have the right to pass if they really do not want to participate. They are told "We strongly encourage your participation even if you are not sexually active, because we would like for you to have this skill if and when the occassion arise (no pun intended). Furthermore, you may have the chance to show a friend how to correctly use a condom, which could help him/her reduce the chance of STD's or unwanted pregnancy if applicable." We have done this for several years without any major complaints. If students were offended, they could pass, or if the whole presentation offended them, they were free to get up and walk out. However, last year a female student came to see my supervisor and eventually ended up in my office. It seems that her boyfriend was in the Psych. 101 class that morning and had put a condom on a penis model. She was appalled and offended (although he was not) and thought that we should immediately discontinue this horrible practice. Her suggestion was that we offer this explicit type of info in evening programs open campus wide to anyone who is sexually active and wants to come. When I explained to her that it is rare that anyone would attend a general session such as she was suggesting, she said that perhaps we should just stop teaching this type of education then. After an hour of conversation with this female, she eventually ended up crying, stating that her boyfriend and her were engaged and had never had sex. She said that when they do have sex (after marriage) that they would be using condoms until they decide to have children. She went on to say that I had "ruined" what should have been a beautiful moment between the two of them - learning how to put on a condom. I told her that there is really quite a bit of difference between putting a condom on a wooden model and the real thing and that this could actually make the experience better, since there would be less likely a chance that the condom would be used incorrectly, thus making unwanted pregnancy more unlikely. She was not to be consoled or won over however. She stated that students should not be forced to sit through such sexually graphic material. When I told her that students always have the option of leaving if they are offended, she stated that this puts students on the spot and they will end up staying due to fear of what their peers will think about them. I told her that in my opinion, college students are adults, who should be able to make adult decisions as to whether or not they find something offensive and thus feel free to walk out of a presentation which makes them feel uncomfortable. She went to the Psychology department chair and now (as a result of one person's complaint), the Psych. 101 syllabus states the following: Sexual Health Peer Health Facilitators come into the classroom one day out of the semester to give a presentation on HIV/AIDS, STDs. Due to the explicit nature of their presentation, students have the choice of whether they want to attend the class or not. They will not be penalized if they are absent on this day, and the Teaching Assistants are to announce the date of the presentation in advance so the students will know before they walk into the class room that they are about to experience a sexually graphic presentation." As you can imagine, the numbers of students attending class on these days dropped by more than half. The only reason we have that many is because the T.A.'s are giving extra credit to those who attend. ===================================================================== ==== #823 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 11:22:12 -0500 Reply-To: The International Electronic Mail Directory for Health Educators From: "Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D." Subject: concern How are the HEDIR members living in the northwest (especially around Seattle)? Any problems with the earthquake? __________________________ Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D. Owner and Founder of HEDIR Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle HEDIR Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle/HEDIR ===================================================================== ==== #824 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 12:36:31 -0400 From: Karoline Gottschild Subject: Social Marketing Conf, FL Hi, I'm thinking of going to the Social marketing conference in Tampa FL. IT's June 19-22 I'm told it's interesting, lots of company-type people (vs academics) attend, and a good place to bring one's resume... Anyone have any comments? Been there? (I've a very broad background & just finishing an MA on Healthcare & the Internet. sorry, haven't had time to put my 2cents in on recent string. MA zombie blues...;-) Also, if anyone is going. Know of any cheap accomodations? or willing to 'splurge' on the Hilton & split the room? (Male or Female ok). Or anyone live around there & has a comfy floor? I'm very nice, clean, affectionate, housetrained and everything! ;-) I'd appreciate any input. Karoline Gottschild kxg13@psu.edu Penn State U ===================================================================== ==== #825 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 10:59:15 -0700 From: Barbara Cooley Subject: Re: concern In-Reply-To: <9605031622.AA01397@mx3.u.washington.edu> Those of us in the Seattle area are fine this morning. A little structural damage in the Duvall area, the quake's epicenter. Lots of things off the shelves and walls in some places. No major damage and only one injury reported so far. The major item of conversation this morning, as you might imagine, is where people were and what they were doing at 9:04 p.m. last night and how long it took each to realize what s/he was experiencing was an earthquake. Having been in the 1971 LA (Northridge) one, I knew right away what it was----and hoped it wouldn't get any worse before it stopped. We're mighty fortunate this time. Keeping fingers crossed that that's it instead of being a forerunner of something more. Thanks for asking, Mark. What a lovely, thoughtful use of the HEDIR. I'm not at all surprised the inquiry came from a Saluki. Barbara Cooley, Hall Health Primary Care Center, University of Washington On Fri, 3 May 1996, Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D. wrote: > How are the HEDIR members living in the northwest (especially around > Seattle)? Any problems with the earthquake? > __________________________ > Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D. > Owner and Founder of HEDIR > Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle > HEDIR Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle/HEDIR > ===================================================================== ==== #826 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 11:24:54 PDT From: norm eburne Organization: Western Oregon State College Subject: Health education in Ghana Does anyone have a contact in Ghana who is involved in health education? A health education major at Western Oregon State has been awarded a fellowship to spend the summer in Ghana and I would like to expand her experience to include both school and public health education. Her current assignment will be very useful but the experience could be enhanced if she is able to connect with someone who has earned a U.S.style (if there is such a thing) degree in our field. thanks in advance for any assistance norm eburne western oregon state monmouth oregon ps Mark, we didn't feel anything following the Washington quake last night ===================================================================== ==== #827 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 14:16:20 -0400 From: Jmccompany@AOL.COM Subject: Catalog Any Library Interested in recieving our 8,000 title Educational & Informational Video Catalog, please E-Mail your name, mailing address, and phone number to: Jmccompany@aol.com Thank You ===================================================================== ==== #828 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 14:35:58 -0500 From: "Marjorie E. Scaffa" Subject: Re: educational theory and health education In-Reply-To: <9605030214.AB24805@jaguar1.usouthal.edu> Ansa, Thanks for your response to my posting about the development of "comprehensive theory". The Delphi panelists indicated that the low feasibility rating had to do with barriers within the profession and with the complexity of the task. I agree with you that much of what I read in health education and allied health literature relies on theory from other disciplines. I believe strongly that we need to reference our own theoretical frameworks and that other disciplines involved in health promotion/disease prevention should cite health education theory as well, but unfortunately not much health education theory exists. As far as your question about undergraduate programming- is it general education or professional preparation- I would say that it is both. For students who take elective health education courses then the goal should be general education, but for those students who are health education majors the focus is on preparing professionals and theory becomes critically important. Theory answers the question of why we do what we do as health education professionals. I look forward to others joining in on this discussion. I would welcome rigorous debate as it demonstrates interest and commitment. Thanks. Marjorie E. Scaffa ===================================================================== ==== #829 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 13:05:49 -0600 From: Kenneth McLeroy Subject: Re: Use of Student Evaluations In response to the questions on teaching evaluation, I think it is important to recognize that the various approaches to the evaluation of teaching--including student evaluations, peer evaluations, review of syllabi, followup with graduates, etc.--serve multiple purposes and audiences: (1) The instructor; (2) administrators; and (3) students. Moreover, teaching is more than simply performance in the classroom. From an instructor's point of view, I hope that I use teaching evaluations to help me identify problems in my teaching and to improve my teaching performance, particularly over the long haul. Prior to being tenured, I also used teaching evaluations to argue--in merit reviews and tenure and promotion files--that I was at least a good teacher. As an administrator, I use teaching evaluations to identify problems--whether of faculty, a course, the curricula, or students-- that can be resolved over time, and to encourage faculty to improve their teaching skills. As a student I would want teaching evaluations used to strengthen classroom performance and to reward good teachers or punish bad ones. The problem, of course, is that if we consider teaching related activities--such as advising, mentoring, counseling, course development, etc.--as part of teaching, then the evaluation of teaching becomes more complicated. Moreover, the use of teaching evaluations for both administrative and improvement of teaching purposes may be ineffective. For example, as an instructor trying to improve my teaching then I need as much information as possible on strengths and weaknesses. However, if I am applying for merit or tenure and promotion, then I may simply want to document that my teaching is of high quality. These issues with the evaluation of teaching have led many institutions to move towards teaching portfolios, with an emphasis on improving teaching performance, rathern than administrative evaluations of faculty. So what does all of this mean for students with a poor classroom instructor? I think that students should make an issue of teaching performance when it falls below acceptable levels. Making an issue of teaching to administrators is more than filling out an evaluation form, and is more than being punative. I would hope that health education students are learning to act collectively and can approach administrators in a constructive way to address problems. As an administrator I try to keep in mind a statement by a colleague at another university. He noted that there are relatively few terrible teachers and relatively few outstanding ones. In fact the truly bad and truly great teachers are easy administrative decisions, since one gets rid of the former and rewards the latter. In reality, most of us are ok to good teachers who are simply trying to improve. Adminstrators, then, need to emphasize the importance of teaching--but not to the exclusion of other professorial activities--and create structures and procedures for strengthening teaching performance. WARNING - Original "From:" field length exceeds cc:Mail maximum. Field truncated for delivery. Reply may or may not work. Original "From:" field was: The International Electronic Mail Directory for Health Educators Colleagues: I realize this is an old issue revisited but.....would you please be kind enough to provide me with your opinions, facts, or perhaps better yet, what research says about the following topics [where appropriate]? Briefly..... 1. "What role should student evaluations of teacher [professor] effectiveness/performance play in one's retention, tenure, and/or promotion?" 2. "What role should peer evaluations of teacher [professor] effectiveness/performance play in one's retention, tenure, and/or promotion?" 3. "What is the accepted procedure currently in place in your department, school, and/or college?" ===================================================================== ==== #830 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 13:03:42 -0700 From: Donna Holberg Kuttner Subject: forwarding messages Dear HEDIRS, I have only heard Joyce Morris' opinion on this topic and I am wondering if it reflects a consensus. I have always looked on listserv postings as a kind of public bulletin board or letter- t- the-editor column where we can state points of view on and make announcements about topics which are current. It is also a place where we exchange information and ask for help. I have no problem with anything posted being shared. Listserv postings are not the same as email which I personally consider as private letters. I see no problem with forwarding information to non-HEDIRs provided it is properly documented. Please feel free to straighten me out on this if I am wrong. Donna Holberg Kuttner, PhD, CHES dkuttner@proaxis.com ===================================================================== ==== #831 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 14:32:14 -0700 From: Margo Harris Subject: Taking It In Stride ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB3904.B14D34A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd say Seattle is taking the earthquake in stride. Or, as Barbara = Cooley noted, it depended on where you were! A large crowd was in the = Kingdome watching the Seattle Mariners play. You sports enthusiasts may = know that Ken Behring, owner of the Seattle Seahawks, is trying to move = the Seahawks out of Seattle to the LA area, cited the fact that the = Kingdome was not earthquake proof, as one reason for moving. Well, it = stood up just fine--at least to a 5.4 on the Richter Scale. For the record, I was on my way home from school at the University of = Washington stopping at a downtown Post Office picking up the SOPHE mail = from the PO Box. Do I get extra credit from SOPHE or hazard pay? = Probably not. It certainly reinforces for me why we teach earthquake = education in our schools and why we encourage earthquake preparedness = kits for all--I just can't seem to recall where I put mine!!!! Thanks = for asking, Mark. Margo Margo Harris Harris Training & Consulting Services htcs@halcyon.com ---------- ===================================================================== ==== #832 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 14:42:18 -0700 From: Margo Harris Subject: Forwarding Messages ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB3904.BDE87080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, Joyce may be right for some. I didn't really think permission was = necessary or "required," but then perhaps I never had a message of note = or merit or whatever. If there was any question in my mind, I started = asking permission to forward, and it was always granted. Until a few = weeks ago. I received what I thought was a very informative message = from AAHE, and I asked for permission to share with the list. I did not = receive permission, or any answer, not even after making a second = request. I interpreted that as not having permission, and I didn't forward the = message. For some, Joyce Morris is right. Their etiquette is, ask for = permission. Better safe than sorry. Margo Margo Harris Harris Training & Consulting Services htcs@halcyon.com ===================================================================== ==== #833 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 20:11:16 -0400 From: PDezendorf@AOL.COM Subject: Re: teacher evaluations Teacher evaluations are like client satisfaction surveys. You need them, but you need to use them intelligently. Paul Dezendorf ===================================================================== ==== #834 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 21:38:00 EDT From: "Petosa.1@osu.edu (rick petosa)" Subject: Re: teacher evaluations student evaluation of teaching i agree with paul, student evaluation of college instruction tends to be norm-referenced, (Is this the greatest instructor you have ever taken a course with?) consumer satisfaction surveys. As a researcher in education and health, I have always been very respectful of the limits of these types of evaluation tools. There are other more rigorous approaches to the evaluation of instruction, and they should be used more often. My view is that the consumer satisfaction surveys often are used to the exclusion of other more appropriate forms of evaluation. These forms of evaluation can ultimately serve to deteriorate the qualit y of university instruction. I challenge those who are involved in the evaluation of instruction to devote research effort to the development of criterion-referenced, expert evaluation instruments. That would be a contribution. rick petosa ===================================================================== ==== #835 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 22:11:04 -0400 From: TSIMS@MUVMS6.MU.WVNET.EDU Subject: Re: Social Marketing Conf, FL In-Reply-To: <01I49PGX8AMQBIKFSR@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU> Karoline, I attended the Social Marketing Conference last year and highly recommend it. Nice setting and great speakers. You (and other readers in HEDIR) should check out the information on scholarships (room, board, registration, travel) from the Univ of Central Florida, which sponsors the conference. There are stipends for attendance each year. Also, as the University is a campus, there may be some ad hoc dorm rooming available for a reasonable fee. Finally, you might want to put out a call on the internet to identify another paricipant who would like to save expenses by sharing lodging. I definitely recommend you attend if you can. On Fri, 3 May 1996, Karoline Gottschild wrote: > Hi, > > I'm thinking of going to the Social marketing conference in Tampa FL. IT's > June 19-22 > > I'm told it's interesting, lots of company-type people (vs academics) > attend, and a good place > to bring one's resume... > > Anyone have any comments? Been there? > (I've a very broad background & just finishing an MA on > Healthcare & the Internet. sorry, haven't had time to put my 2cents in on > recent string. MA zombie blues...;-) > > Also, if anyone is going. Know of any cheap accomodations? or willing to > 'splurge' on the Hilton & split the room? (Male or Female ok). Or anyone > live around there & has a comfy floor? I'm very nice, clean, affectionate, > housetrained and everything! ;-) > > I'd appreciate any input. > Karoline Gottschild > kxg13@psu.edu > Penn State U > ===================================================================== ==== #836 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 10:02:06 GMT+0200 From: "SENDER: ANSA.OJANLATVA@UTU.FI" Subject: Xylitol and prevention of caries In-Reply-To: "Your message dated Fri, 03 May 1996 14:35:58 -0500" <01I4AA5LN1F69DAR08@sara.cc.utu.fi> The following is summarized from the local paper and I thought health educators might like to hear it hot off the press (Turun Sanomat)... ***** The earlier a child get a mutans strepto infection, the likelier he/she is to have cavities. The infection is almost always obtained from the mother. Regular chewing of xylitol by the mother will reduce this chance, the researchers say. Docent Eva Soderling (o with the dot above) is leading the group in this investigation (others: dos. Kaisu Pienihakkinen, prof. Jorma Tenovuo). The study uses pregnant women whose level of the bacteria in the mouth was high (infection from their own mothers; not possible to get rid of later on). One may of course influence the course of the cavity formation with good oral hygiene and diet --as health educators suggest all over the world! The mothers chewed 3-5 pieces of this gum daily until the babies reached 2 years of age. The infection formation is then considered to be reduced. A comparison group without the intervention was used. Over 50% of the mothers in the comparison group had infected their babies while only 15% of the intervention group mothers had done so. A second comparison group used a polish which is known to kill the bacteria; the results of the xylitol group were at least as good as those using the polish (2-3 annual visit to the dentist needed). According to the study, xylitol does not kill the existing mutans bacteria but it does change the existing bacteria so that they cannot stick to teeth as well. Research will continue on the process. Docent Eva Soderling can be reached at the University of Turku (+358-21-333 81 operator). I would expect that her papers appear in the dental journals. The dental undergraduate program is in the process of being phased out and discontinued (I will miss the advanced/special study students when it end), but the research element and ocntinuing education are expected to continue. Xylitol gum was invented by a research group at this university. Ansa. (PS. I apologize for any (potential) cultural differences in spelling ...as we had some months ago.) Also, a note of political curiosity for those of you who might have read this far: The Speaker of the Parliament is a woman in Finland. And so are the two Vice Speakers. The only male Vice Speaker is moving to another opportunity. The male network (as the paper put it) failed to collect enough votes to get a man in. The men are complaining... and not very nicely. (meanwhile this university medical school has one female professor/54 programs) ************************ Ansa Ojanlatva, PhD, CSE, docent faculty member and Coordinator Dept Public Health Sexology Program Lemminkaisenkatu 1 Center for Reproductive and 20014 University of Turku Developmental Medicine Finland (http//www.utu.fi/tdk/laak/crede) tel. +358-21-333 8513 (+358-21-333 81 operator) FAX +358-21-333 8439 ************************ ===================================================================== ==== #837 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 11:03:44 GMT+0200 From: "SENDER: ANSA.OJANLATVA@UTU.FI" Subject: Re: educational theory and health education In-Reply-To: "Your message dated Fri, 03 May 1996 14:35:58 -0500" <01I4AA5LN1F69DAR08@sara.cc.utu.fi> Thank you, Marjorie, for the response. From what I have read thus far, discussed the issues with others, and observed as a lack of discussion surrounding the topic in this network, 'the barriers within the profession' and 'the complexity of the task' from your study would not be unusual. To get the discussion going, would you be willing to elaborate the findings further in depth. What was meant by those barries? Complexity of the task? It may well be that you are the present leader of the discussion. I hope you will take the lead and discuss them further. Am I to understand that you have not published the outcome of the panel survey? My question regarding liberal education really meant the professional part. The BS degrees are being eliminated in many universities here and I wonder what the fate of the (what we knew as) BS content will be. When I was a student here (long ago) I had the option of having a BS. I needed it in order to pursue my education there. Today, many do not have the option any longer. I was a TA at SIU when the program had both personal health and sexuality classes as general education requirements (I guess they still do?). However, to my knowledge, no Finnish university has health classes as requirements, other than for professional school students like med students. Then, are they general or are they professional... We have a professor in this building who is considered a leader on discussion of future change. His message is that change is here, it is unpredictable and impossible to control. He also talks about psychologically safe framework which we need in order to turn the views into ourselves and our abilities to change. For health education which is directed to behavior change, it must be essential but for those of us who are directed to wellness, the approach might be different. Is this part of the complexity? Is it essential for us to be able to create a psychologically safe environment? How is it done? I am trying to stir the waters, on purpose, and hope to succeed. Ansa. ************************ Ansa Ojanlatva, PhD, CSE, docent faculty member and Coordinator Dept Public Health Sexology Program Lemminkaisenkatu 1 Center for Reproductive and 20014 University of Turku Developmental Medicine Finland (http//www.utu.fi/tdk/laak/crede) tel. +358-21-333 8513 (+358-21-333 81 operator) FAX +358-21-333 8439 ************************ ===================================================================== ==== #838 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 11:50:09 -0500 From: Bob McDermott Organization: USF College of Public Health Subject: Re: Social Marketing Conf, FL Just so that there is no confusion about this, the Social Marketing Conference is sponsored by the University of South Florida College of Public Health. Scholarships for the conference were awarded months ago, but the hotel rate is inexpensive, the conference is absolutely first rate, and the setting is picturesque. There is ample opportunity for scholarly activity, both formal and informal, as well as opportunity for social activity and relaxation. I very much doubt that anyone who attends this conference will find it anything less than one of the best knowledge and skill building meetings they have ever attended. If anyone has any questions or wishes to receive more information about this meeting, please correspond with me on the HEDIR or call Ginger Phillips, the conference coordinator, at 813/974- 6684. The meeting is June 19-22 at the Sheraton Sand Key Hotel, Clearwater Beach, Florida. Date sent: Fri, 3 May 1996 22:11:04 -0400 Send reply to: The International Electronic Mail Directory for Health Educators From: TSIMS@MUVMS6.MU.WVNET.EDU Subject: Re: Social Marketing Conf, FL To: Multiple recipients of list HEDIR Karoline, I attended the Social Marketing Conference last year and highly recommend it. Nice setting and great speakers. You (and other readers in HEDIR) should check out the information on scholarships (room, board, registration, travel) from the Univ of Central Florida, which sponsors the conference. There are stipends for attendance each year. Also, as the University is a campus, there may be some ad hoc dorm rooming available for a reasonable fee. Finally, you might want to put out a call on the internet to identify another paricipant who would like to save expenses by sharing lodging. I definitely recommend you attend if you can. On Fri, 3 May 1996, Karoline Gottschild wrote: > Hi, > > I'm thinking of going to the Social marketing conference in Tampa FL. IT's > June 19-22 > > I'm told it's interesting, lots of company-type people (vs academics) > attend, and a good place > to bring one's resume... > > Anyone have any comments? Been there? > (I've a very broad background & just finishing an MA on > Healthcare & the Internet. sorry, haven't had time to put my 2cents in on > recent string. MA zombie blues...;-) > > Also, if anyone is going. Know of any cheap accomodations? or willing to > 'splurge' on the Hilton & split the room? (Male or Female ok). Or anyone > live around there & has a comfy floor? I'm very nice, clean, affectionate, > housetrained and everything! ;-) > > I'd appreciate any input. > Karoline Gottschild > kxg13@psu.edu > Penn State U > ===================================================================== ==== #839 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 12:16:37 -0500 From: "Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D." Subject: New info on directories Most of you know that besides the HEDIR listserv, I have organized three e-mail directories which will list health educators by job site, by name, and by state/country. The job site includes not only the institution/organization that you are affiliated with, but also one's address, fax and phone. In addition, it gives a brief description of your interest areas. It's important that these directories stay up to date, so I would encourage you to review these directories occassionally--if you see any incorrect individuals, or individuals who are no longer at your institution, please let me know. They can be viewed and/or downloaded on my web page at www.siu.edu/~kittle/HEDIR/Menu.html or you can request it from me by sending me a note at my personal e-mail (kittle@siu.edu) Also, I am going to start listing institution/organizations home page addresses and individual home pages. If you or your organization has a home page on the worldwide web, please send me the address (URL). I will start putting these URLs onto the job site directory. When you send such addresses, please make sure that you indicate whether this is your department's or your personal home page. For example, my department's home page is: www.siu.edu/departments/coe/hedrec/ whereas my personal home page is: www.siu.edu/~kittle/ I tend to update these directories every two weeks or so. As soon as I start receiving such addresses. __________________________ Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D. Owner and Founder of HEDIR Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle HEDIR Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle/HEDIR ===================================================================== ==== #840 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 15:36:01 -0400 Reply-To: The International Electronic Mail Directory for Health Educators From: Jeanchev@AOL.COM Subject: CRaZy Complimentary Offer........ --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: CRaZy Complimentary Offer........ Date: 96-05-04 14:44:00 EDT From: Jeanchev To: free_offer_news.reflector@usenet.vax1.zer2.co.np This is an unrelated advertisement. It has been removed to save space. MJKittleson ===================================================================== ==== #841 Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 10:53:18 -0700 From: "Evelyn E. Ames" Subject: Re: concern In-Reply-To: <9605031622.AA20904@henson.cc.wwu.edu> An open message: it was a rolling wave type movement in Bellingham. In Seattle area and especially in the northeast area around Bellevue, the rolling wave lasted for several seconds 9TV news said around 20 - 30 seconds). Several people I talked with on Friday said they did not feel the earthquake. Hum!!! I did and got up and headed towards the door but the quake stopped. No damage in Bellingham but damage to houses and stores (items falling off shelves) in the Duvall area. Geologist at Western said that if the wave keeps going, get out of the house. Who knows, it may be another hundred years before the big one or tomorrow. We are due for a big one (plates of San Juan are to slip) but no one knows for sure. All's well in the northwest. Evelyn Ames eames@henson.cc.wwu.edu P.S. apparently quake felt throughout state of Washington and into BC, Canada (Victoria, which is further south of Bellingham, and Vancouver). On Fri, 3 May 1996, Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D. wrote: > How are the HEDIR members living in the northwest (especially around > Seattle)? Any problems with the earthquake? > __________________________ > Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D. > Owner and Founder of HEDIR > Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle > HEDIR Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle/HEDIR > ===================================================================== ==== #842 Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 13:40:05 -0700 From: Margo Harris Subject: Final Earthquake Assessment Okay, here's the wrap up: 1. One broken arm - A mom ran up the stairs to check on her kids, fell = and broke her arm. 2. One premature baby - Earthquake struck at 9:04 PM, Mom's water broke = at 9:06 PM, baby arrived four weeks premature less than 2 hours later. = Mom, Dad and baby doing fine. 3. Greatest distress experienced by Seattle Metro area TV viewers of = ABC and NBC due to constant program interruptions and incomplete = broadcast of Seinfeld, and no broadcast of ER. Over 600 complaints = received. No such problem on CBS, they continued to broadcast the = Sonics/Sacramento basketball game (Sonics won!) with a "picture in = picture" update. Radio stations continue to play, "Whole Lot of Shaking = Going On." For the record, what top 10 items would you want in your earthquake = preparedness kit (yes, I found mine)? Fine prizes may be awarded for = winning entries. Margo Margo Harris Harris Training & Consulting Services htcs@halcyon.com ===================================================================== ==== #843 Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 15:14:14 PST From: Dawn Graff-Haight Organization: Urban and Public Affairs Subject: Re: forwarding messages and sex update Dear fellow HEDIRS, I for one was thrilled that some of you forwarded my message regarding academic freedom and the human sexuality fiasco to others with similar responsibilities. Responses from folks in Psychology and Sociology are still coming in. I agree with Donna Holberg-Kuttner that items appearing on the list are pretty much public domain. If someone is concerned about their HEDIR message being sent on, they should say so in their posting. By the way, I intend to send a summary of responses related to the academic freedom and disclaimer subject across the HEDIR when I get through midterms (we're on the quarter system here at PSU). FYI, the attorney for our University suggested modifying one part of the assignment, but did not feel a legal disclaimer for the course was necessary. Still, my dept. chair wants to discuss the disclaimer idea for use in human sexuality in the future. Fortunately I have a banquet of items to share from all over the world related to the topic. Thank you everyone for your thoughtful, helpful, and admittedly appreciated humorous responses. More on the subject in a few weeks, where I will post Dawn's "Top 10" Sexuality Course Syllabus Disclaimers. If you'd like to contribute, please do so now. Thanks. Dawn Graff-Haight dawn@upa.pdx.edu ===================================================================== ==== #844 Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 23:03:04 -0400 From: MidK@AOL.COM Subject: Big Earthquakes I learned of the Seattle quake on this list serve. I still have not seen coverage of it here in the San Francisco Bay Area.I am gald to hear that things are OK. My recommendations for an earthquake kit come from direct experience. I was in the Loma Prieta Earthquake in 1989. You all know, the one that happened at the World Series.We were less than 5 miles from the epi center of the 7.1 quake. I was in my office at ETR Associates gathering my stuff to take to the ASHA conference in Chicago (flight the next day). The noise was the first thing I noticed.It sounds like a giant truck rumbling toward you.I rode it out in the doorway of my office with TWO other colleagues. The chair where I was sitting was smashed by the bookcase that fell on it. When it stopped we climbed over the mass of books in the hallway to get to the stairs and down to the first floor and outside. I jumped in my car and tried to get home, I was lucky. It was early and roads were not yet closed. I had a four wheel drive car and was able to get around fallen trees etc. to my home. Once there -- all I cared about was seeing my husband and my son (5 at the time). My husband had also been lucky getting home and my son was there with a sitter. I really did not care that we lost so many material things inside our home. We were safe and together. I had stored water and food. I was thankful for the campling equipment, because we used it in the front yard. Beyond water and food -- THE most imporant thing to us was a battery powered radio. We had no power and had no information. Another thing that we did not have was any ready cash. I had planned to go the instant teller the next day. WRONG! We were cut off from most of the world because the roads to Santa Cruz County were closed due to mountain slides. We had three days without power and camped outside for about a week. These are the things I learned; 1. Newer is better and building codes are good things. 2. It is a good thing to secure bookcases to the wall -- even if it is a pain. 3. People are amazing in these situations. There was no looting -- only concern for the people who were displaced. Everyone helped everyone else. Something not often talked about re: quakes is how dsiturbing the aftershocks are. We had them for months. Some as big as 5.6 and 6.0. It is very hard to recover mentally (even after the physical stuff is over) when you are tramatized over and over again. I still feel the fear when I hear a truck rumble by and have to decide if it is necessary to duck under the desk! My recommendations: battery powered radio cash a plan with family members about where to meet or who to call if you are separated. Kathleen Middleton Executive Director and Publisher ToucanEd Publications and Communications(now on my own) @ToucanEd.com or MidK@aol.com ===================================================================== ==== #845 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 05:48:39 -0400 From: Ernesto Randolfi 614 593 0232 Subject: New Web page and a note on managed care For anyone who is interested, the Ohio Association of University Health Educators (OAUHE) has a Web page at: http://ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu/~randolfi/OAUHE.html Check us out and see what we are all about. The following has been forwarded from a number of other lists. It may be of interest to any who discuss the merits of cost containment in health care in their classes. Enjoy Ernie Randolfi randolfi@ohiou.edu *********************************************************************** Subject: Cost Containment Humor: The Unfinished Symphony (fwd) >> >---------- Forwarded message ---------- The president of a large managed health care facility also served on the board of his community's symphony orchestra. Finding that he could not go to one of the concerts, he gave his tickets to the company's director of health care cost containment. The next morning, he asked the director how he enjoyed the performance. Instead of the usual polite remarks, the director handed him a memo which read as follows: The undersigned submits the following comments and recommendations relative to the performance of Schubert's "Unfinished Symphony" by this city's symphony orchestra as observed under actual working conditions: A. The attendance of the conductor is unnecessary for the public performances. The orchestra has obviously practiced and has the prior authorization from the conductor to play the symphony at a predetermined level of quality. Considerable money could be saved merely by having the conductor critique the orchestra's performance during a retrospective peer review meeting. B. For considerable periods, the four oboe players had nothing to do. Their numbers should be reduced and their work spread over the whole orchestra, thus eliminating peaks and valleys of activity. C. All 12 violins were playing identical notes with identical motions. This is unnecessary duplication: the staff of this section should be cut drastically with consequent savings. If a large volume of sound is required, this could be obtained through electronic amplification, which has reached high levels of reproductive quality. D. Much effort was expanded playing 16th notes or semi-quavers. This seems an excessive refinement, as most listeners are unable to distinguish such rapid playing. It is recommended that all notes be rounded up to eighth. If this is done, it would also be possible to use trainees and lower grade musicians with no loss of quality. E. No useful purpose would be appear to be served by repeating with horns the same passage that has already been handled by the strings. If all such redundant passages were eliminated, as a determined by the utilization review committee, the concert would have been reduced from two hours to about 20 minutes, resulting in substantial savings in salaries and overhead. In fact, if Schubert had addressed these concerns on a cost containment basis, he probably would have been able to finish this symphony! Unsigned ===================================================================== ==== #846 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 10:01:31 -0700 From: Donna Holberg Kuttner Subject: disaster preparedness As a veteran of many hurricanes (I grew up in Houston and worked for many years in Galveston County), earthquakes (lived a while in San Francisco) and floods (the recent biggie here in Oregon's Willamette Valley), I have a few items to add to the disaster preparedness list. Good flashlights with batteries Aladdin hurricane lamp--very bright a backpacking stove and a supply of freeze dried camping foods 5 gallons of water water purification system matches And as Kathleen Middleton suggested, a plan. A cellular phone or two with charged batteries is a great item as well. Donna Holberg Kuttner, PhD, CHES dkuttner@proaxislcom ===================================================================== ==== #847 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 13:15:27 -0400 From: "Robert H. Anderson" Organization: WVU Mary Babb Randolph Cancer Ctr. Subject: Forwarding of Mail When people post a message to a LISTSERV with hundreds of members, many of whom probably freely share the notes with other faculty and students, it seems a bit late for some one posting a message to be concerned about where it goes to next. One should only post a message to HEDIR if it is something s/he has is willing to share with many other people. On the other hand, it IS inappropriate to forward a PRIVATE message to someone else without the approval of the sender. ********************************************************** Robert H. Anderson 304-293-1828 (voice) Prevention Research Center 304-293-8624 (fax) Robert C. Byrd Health Sciences Center P.O. Box 9005 West Virginia University Morgantown, WV 26506-9005 ******************************************************* ===================================================================== ==== #848 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 14:47:00 -0500 Reply-To: The International Electronic Mail Directory for Health Educators From: "Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D." Subject: Personal vs. Private Just for clarification, as my memo states to all newcombers, it is the HEDIR view that anything sent over HEDIR (or any other listserv) is considered public domain/public statement. Anything sent to an individual is considered private. Until the courts decide otherwise, that is my impression. To forward a memo one receives from any listserv is appropriate (I do think it would be appropriate to cite the original author) to the HEDIR. __________________________ Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D. Owner and Founder of HEDIR Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle HEDIR Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle/HEDIR ===================================================================== ==== #849 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 13:46:35 -0700 From: Barbara Cooley Subject: Position Announcement: Health Education Resources Coordinator 2 Please call this announcement to the attention of anyone qualif ied who might also be interested. This now is a fulltime position. It previously was advertised as a half-time one. My conclusion after eight years here in a similar position is that Hall Health Primary Care Center at the University of Washington is a great place to work---if you like enjoyable and challenging work with interesting, competent, dedicated colleagues who are thoroughly committed to excellence in primary health care--- including health education and health promotion services. My other pertinent bias based on nearly 25 years of experience is that the area is a wonderful place to live. Yes, we have a large number of gray days---and even an occasional earth-rumbling, but Portland has a higher average annual rainfall---and so does New York City. Seattle also has the highest per capita boat ownership and the highest per capita library use rates in the contiguous 48 states. The coffee's not bad, either---and it's certainly widely available. Preference for tea is honored and respected. Pacific Northwest SOPHE is very active and very good---interesting people in interesting positions with great networking and professional education opportunities. The UW has an excellent transportation system, called U-Pass, for those commuting to campus from all over this and two neighboring counties. Application materials may be obtained as early as Monday, May 6, 1996, by writing, calling, or faxing: University of Washington Employment Office Box 354450 Seattle, WA 98195 - 4550 (206) 685-2728 Fax: (206)685-0632 HEALTH EDUCATION RESOURCES COORDINATOR 2 Reference: A2727 General Duties: Initiate, develop and manage health promotion activities for Hall Health Primary Care Center. Function in highly visible way within the practice and University community. Coordinate planning, development, implementation and evaluation of annual Health and Fitness fair. Build community support for development of Health Promotion and Development program. Assess patient and practice needs to identify program needs and develop health promotion programs to meet needs. Design, conduct and evaluate learning groups in areas such as nutrition, exercise, stress management. Develop, implement, promote and evaluate a speakers' bureau. Work with other University units to design, conduct and evaluate jointly sponsored programs. Direct individuals and groups to other appropriate resources on campus and in the community. Identify potential grant agencies and develop grant proposals. Work with Patient Relations Office to develop consumer education materials for managed care and other patients. Manage Wellness Resource Center: establish library; arrange and manage staffing; plan and arrange displays. Coordinate identification, evaluation, ordering, storage, distribution and display of educational materials for the practice, Wellness Resource Center and satellite locations. Select and set up computer-based edeucational materials index and inventory control system. Minimum Qualifications: Master's degree in education, health education or health science discipline and two years experience in the development, planning or coordination of health or education related activities, including one year in developing and/or evaluation instructional media materials or equivalent education/experience. Desirable: Experience with public health policy and administration. Combined Eligible List: For this classification, all eligible applicants may be placed on one combined list. A five percent increase will be added to the evaluation scores of permanent, Classified UW employees. Salary Range: $2,393 - 3,054 Closing Date: Monday, May 20, 1996 Employment Offices are accessible to persons with disabilities. Please telephone for entrance directions. If you need disability accommodation in the application/employment process, please call 543-6540 (voice) or 543-6452 (TDD). The University of Washington is an equal opportunity, affirmative action employer. ================================================================= Barbara Cooley, M.A., CHES, Hall Health Primary Care Center, UW ===================================================================== ==== #850 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 19:43:05 CDT From: Joyce Morris Subject: Re: forwarding messages It is not my opinion that messages should not be forwared without permission; it is the opinion the courts. The courts viewed a mailing list, especially a private one like this, to be equivalent to a a letter to the editor of any publication. Once it is published you need permission to use it in any way other than which it was intended. This intention is for it to be posted on the mailing list and anyone who is subscribed to that mailing list has access to it. This is the same as anything which is published in any publication. You may paraphrase the entire post since it [the mailing list] is publically available but you may not directly quote more than what is necessary in order to make a point. I have also seen explanations of why it is not ok to forward posts without permission as being plagiarism. Basically you do not have permission to use someone else's work in its entirety. Anyone who wants access to the postings can subscribe to the list. My personal opinion is that it does not matter why someone might be upset at their posting being forwarded or whether it is illegal; it is simple courtesy to ask. My guess is that in 90% or more cases the answer will be yes but that does not matter. The fact is that there are people who would say no [as evidenced by that there was a court case] and their wishes should be obeyed. I am not sure why for people who champion the rights of the minority that this is such a hard concept for people to accept. Joyce Morris Health Services Organization and Policy Wichita State University ===================================================================== ==== #851 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 21:12:09 -0400 From: Lawrence Green Subject: Re: concern In-Reply-To: <199605031622.JAA29058@unixg.ubc.ca> No major problems in Vancouver, BC, though the tremor was definitely felt here. Epicenter was northeast of Seattle in Washington State. --Larry On Fri, 3 May 1996, Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D. wrote: > How are the HEDIR members living in the northwest (especially around > Seattle)? Any problems with the earthquake? > __________________________ > Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D. > Owner and Founder of HEDIR > Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle > HEDIR Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle/HEDIR > ===================================================================== ==== #852 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 07:58:22 GMT+0200 From: "SENDER: ANSA.OJANLATVA@UTU.FI" Subject: Re: forwarding messages In-Reply-To: "Your message dated Mon, 06 May 1996 19:43:05 -0500 (CDT)" <01I4EWSFJ6LE9DBBS9@sara.cc.utu.fi> Thank you, Joyce. I would tend to think that placing messages out of context would be considered similar to gossip. We have to ask for a permission for picture or table to be used in a special study, thesis or other work --without speaking of longer parts of text. Thus far those permissions have been granted but corrections have also been suggested so that original work (e.g. thesis) be quoted instead of a publication where it first appeared. As internet develops, I am sure that there will be discussion of what is appropriate and what is not. The discussion being carried out right now is one of those. There will always be happenings which are errors --and they can happen to anyone. Continued, intentional repetition is another matter, however. Ansa. ************************ Ansa Ojanlatva, PhD, CSE, docent faculty member and Coordinator Dept Public Health Sexology Program Lemminkaisenkatu 1 Center for Reproductive and 20014 University of Turku Developmental Medicine Finland (http//www.utu.fi/tdk/laak/crede) tel. +358-21-333 8513 (+358-21-333 81 operator) FAX +358-21-333 8439 ************************ ===================================================================== ==== #853 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 10:23:01 -0600 From: Vincent Lee Subject: need help to unsubscribe Hi, could someone please tell me how to unsubscribe from this mailing list? The e-mail address currently subscribed to the list is ppae@web.apc.org We tried the command "SIGNOFF HEDIR" to LISTSERV@SIUCVMB.BITNET a few times, but that doesn't seem to work. The reason for unsubscribing is that we will be switching the Internet connection to another server in the near future. Thank you very much for your attention. Vincent Lee ===================================================================== ==== #854 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 12:35:37 CDT From: Joyce Morris Subject: concentration vs generalist I need fast feedback. We had submitted three proposed curricula concentrations to our dean. She has returned them to us and asked us to discuss them further. She and several of the faculty believe that we should have a generalist MPH rather than an MPH with the choice of 3 concentrations. What is your feeling? I especially need the feedback from practitioners who are in a position to hire people. How do you view someone with a generalist instead of a specific focus in their masters degree? Thanks Joyce Morris morris@islchp.uc.twsu.edu ===================================================================== ==== #855 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 10:01:47 -0800 From: Mark Fulop Subject: Re: concentration vs generalist Joyce, In some California county structures, positions are only filled by MPH with a concentration in Health Promotion and education. In real life, I look *only* for generalist skills in candidates I hire. Can they community org, program plan, evaluate, design interventions? Content is rapidly changing to the point where is someone concentrates in MCH and knows that content well, I say -- so what? the money I am working with now is HIV related or Alcohol related. I am interested in what they can do rather than what they know. However, the real point is not what I think about 1 vs 3 concentrations in practice. The bottom line is marketing. Why do car companies sell 23 different models of cars or tobacco companies 10 different brands of cancer? I think it would be a marketing short-sight not to offer multiple tracks. _________________________________________________ Mark Fulop, MPH, CHES fulop@mail.sdsu.edu Co-Director, College Health 2000 Health Promotion and Education Projects 5500 Campanile Drive San Diego, CA 92182-4701 Phone: 619.594.2869 FAX: 619.594.5613 http://shs.sdsu.edu/ch2000/chhome.html ===================================================================== ==== #846 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 11:22:55 -0700 From: Margo Harris Subject: Generalists Unite ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB3C07.E5B4F560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you don't mind more of a business model approach, your subject was = addressed in the Wall Street Journal last week. The column, Managing = Your Career, offered a topic, "Striking A Balance Between Expertise, = Wearing Many Hats." To paraphrase: "Decide whether you want a specialist with generalist = skills or a generalist with specialty knowledge. What's the difference? = The former wants to remain an expert, but he or she has the broader = business knowledge and the communication and marketing skills needed to = deal with a variety of customers, external and internal. The latter aspires to broader management authority and has the = abilities to synthesize his areas of expertise into new ideas and to = organize and motivate people to get them to market. Of course, you should know the industry and company you're in (aiming = for). Companies who have already pushed through big cultural and = organizational changes are looking for industry and product specialists = to start them off on their new course. Meanwhile, static companies = seeking to push change are looking for generalists who can shake things = up." So much of health--education/information/technology/care--is in a state = of change, the generalist may be viewed favorably. I pitch my diverse = talents when I go after work. On the other hand, I recently came in = second for a position when someone with an exact match to the job was in = the applicant pool. So it depends on the employer. I suspect that the = answer is that both types of trained MPH folks are needed. My choice is = for the generalist that can shift skills as one grant runs out and a new = one requiring other skills starts up. The versatility of the generalist = is a plus. The article concludes by suggesting "the generalizing specialists are = more introverted and concrete. They're more often lone wolves than team = players. On the other hand, the more extroverted, action-oriented = people who don't particularly care about the details tend to be = specializing generalists." There is a substantial focus on teams, = ===================================================================== ==== #847 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 14:22:40 MDT From: Onie Grosshans Organization: College of Health, DEANS server Subject: HE Theories in graduate programs Adding to the discussion on theories and health education - I would like to have feedback regarding theories taught by other health educators in a graduate program. Two questions: Are there major theories which need to be taught in a health education graduate program - and if so, what are they? To aid in discussion - I will add the following list of theories. __ Systems Theory & Biopsychosocial Model __ Mindfulness & Stress Theory __ Resiliency Theory & Chaos Theory __ Emotions & Health (transactional model) __ Cognitive and Developmental Theories __ Marginality & Theory of Reasoned Action (also feminist theory) __ Social Psychology Theories & Health Counseling Social learning theory Control: Locus of control, personal control Social support Attribution theory & learned helplessness __ Behavioral learning theories (Skinner) __ Engineering experiences using the COMPLEX MODEL __ Cognitive-Behavorial Modifications (Meichenbaum) __ Program Planning Models: PRECEDE/PROCEED __ Revised Models Health Belief Model Theory of Planned Behavior __ Theories of Changing Addictive Behaviors Prochaska & DiClemente's Change Theory) __ Marketing Theory __ Communication & Diffusion of Information __ Future Theories & World Views: Postmodernism & Env. Theory O.k. - give me feedback..... thanks Onie Grosshans University of Utah ===================================================================== ==== #848 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 15:28:43 -0500 From: John Harvey R Subject: Re: HE Theories in graduate programs In-Reply-To: <199605072023.PAA10270@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> How about using my "Affective Imbroglio" theory . . . sure beats "Cognitive Dissonance" in explaining why people behave differently than they know. Cordially, John 8-) ===================================================================== ==== #849 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 17:17:50 -0400 Reply-To: The International Electronic Mail Directory for Health Educators From: Dreadswim@AOL.COM Subject: Re: concentration vs generalist We have just established a base with an undergraduate degree in community health, and are thus looking down the road to an MPH in Health Education. . .generalist is our choice because of the need, plus cost of running one rather than three, and the energy of a more focused view. go for it! ===================================================================== ==== #850 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 17:30:02 -0400 From: Dreadswim@AOL.COM Subject: Re: HE Theories in graduate programs Where does one start? Let's try: holistic health mind/body connection spiruality alternative medicine cognitive/behavioral teaching and learning behavioral learning theory (Skinner)? Are you kidding? learned personality through thinking, feeling and acting moral education self-esteem etc., etc., ===================================================================== ==== #851 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 17:31:37 -0400 From: Eileen McDonald Subject: health education position Fulltime health educator needed to staff an injury prevention resource center within the Department of Pediatrics at the Johns Hopkins Hospital. Responsibilities include direct patient education, educational and promotional materials development, proposal and report writing, and liaison to hospital staff, supply vendors, and potential donors. The position will be responsible for all administrative tasks related to the resource center, including inventorying and purchasing supplies, developing accounting procedures, and tracking patient use of the center. Effective candidates will have a bachelors degree in health education plus experience working with low-income families, or a masters degree. Experience in injury prevention is a plus. To apply, please contact Johns Hopkins University, School of Hygiene and Public Health, Office of Human Resources, 2021 E. Monument Street, Baltimore, MD 21205, (410) 955-3006. PLEASE REFER TO HEALTH EDUCATION COORDINATOR, POSITION NUMBER 1152-96. ===================================================================== ==== #852 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 17:21:39 CDT From: Joyce Morris Subject: Re: generalist vs concentration Thanks for the replies I have recieved so far. I think I need to clarify. Our MPH degree is 36 credits. Once you take 15 credits off for the 5 core courses [env hlth, biostat, epi, adm/policy, and behavior] and 6-9 for the practicum or thesis option, you only have 12-15 credits left for a possible concentration. The proposed conentrations are administration, policy, and education. What has been proposed is to drop these three concentrations in favor of the 12-15 credits being generalist credits [whatever that means, I'm not sure]. The education concentration as currently proposed would have those courses as behavior theory, methods and materials, planning,and community assessment and development or approved course. The other two concentrations are similarly constructed. The concentrations are not in drug education or the like but really are broad concentrations. The generalist degree would put together 4 unrelated courses for this set. Thanks again for the input. Joyce Morris morris@islchp.uc.twsu.edu ===================================================================== ==== #853 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 20:27:25 -0400 From: "Lea S. Dooley" Subject: May is National Masturbation Month? I recently recieved a very amusing sticker that announced that May is National Masturbation Month. It has a stick figure of "See Jane, See Jane Play, Play Jane, Play" on it. Anyway, aside from it being funny, and perhaps a great idea to promote, has anyone else heard of this? And if so, are you promoting it? Or what do people think about promoting a masturbation month? It's falls under health ed........ Lea Dooley ===================================================================== ==== #854 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 20:34:56 -0400 From: "Lea S. Dooley" Subject: Re: generalist vs concentration In-Reply-To: <9605072225.AA10840@is.nyu.edu> Joyce, What a minute .. your MPH program is 36 credits???? Can we also talk about what it means that so many different schools offer the same degree but with huge variation in what it takes to aquire that degree? The program that I am currently in (MPH, New York University) is 54 credits excluding the 3 credit prerequisite. We have two areas to "concentrate" in - International or Community. The only difference (really) is that in International you are competent in a foreign language. But Yikes! The money I could have saved by going to your school! Perhaps that's why I am a little hesistent to join the debate on a general degree or a specialized degree. Until your 36 credit bombshell, I had assumed we were all getting the same basic background. My mistake (ah, the naivete of students). I feel as though I have a pretty good background in needs assesments, grant writing, education, workshops, etc.. So I suppose I'm in the general category. However, here I am considered in a specialized field. Hhhmmmm .. Just thought I'd throw all that onto the pile of things to discuss. Lea Dooley ===================================================================== ==== #855 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 18:34:35 PST From: Dawn Graff-Haight Organization: Urban and Public Affairs Subject: Re: May is National Masturbation Month? In response to the masturbation month message, I'd love to visit the now famous human sexuality class at PSU where one student raised a ruckus about the extra credit assignment. Perhaps I can get the instructor of the course to add another option to the extra credit assignment in celebration of masturbation month. Of course, I think its appropriate for us all to observe this celebration on our own. Finally, I'd like to share a line from a Woody Allen flick. Responding to the comment that Woody was a great lover, he replied, "Well, I practice a lot when I'm alone." Celebrate!! Dawn Graff-Haight dawn@upa.pdx.edu ===================================================================== ==== #856 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 21:16:15 -0400 From: Lawrence Green Subject: Re: educational theory and health education In-Reply-To: <199605012309.QAA20990@unixg.ubc.ca> Dr Scaffa's call for discussion of theory for health education could be a most fruitful use of this listserver and productive for the profession. The debates on this topic in the literature are too slow in turning the issues into a dialogue rather than a series of monologues by individual authors or camps. They also tend to give voice to academics, some of whom try to give voice to practitioners, but it is always a bit suspicious when we professors try to speak for practitioners. I believe I was a subject in Dr. Scaffa's Delphi survey and one who supported the feasibility and need for a general theory of health education and health promotion (I believe the latter can encompass the former, depending on how the terms are defined, which I realize is one of the stumbling blocks for developing a general theory). A thoughtful article on the value of "Health Education Theory: A Foundation for Graduate Education," by Kathleen J. Welshimer, appeared in the Dec.1995 Eta Sigma Gamma Monograph on Graduate Professional Preparation in Health Education, edited by Loren Bensley and Judy Drolet. Much discussion along the same lines is taking place in other public health and health science disciplines, and across the applied sciences. Theory and methodology are intertwined, and much questioning of methodologies in building the science of the health professions is afoot. I, for one, welcome this discussion in health education and thank Marjorie Scaffa for initiating it and Ansa Ojanlatva for encouraging it. --Larry Green On Wed, 1 May 1996, Marjorie E. Scaffa wrote: > This note (from Ansa) appeared almost a month ago and I was one who > responded that I would like to be part of a dialogue on theory issues, > so here goes.... > > A few years ago, I completed some research on theory development in health > education. The purpose of this research was to "test the waters" > regarding the importance, desirability and feasibility of developing > macro or comprehensive theory specific to health education. The study > defined "comprehensive theory" as a scientific theory (using Stephen > Hawking's definition) that incorporates all of the essential elements > needed for the practice of health education irrespective of setting or > target population". Another way to think of this is as a "generic theory" > that could potentially spin off more specialized models. > > The study utilized a mixed quantitative/qualitative design. The qualitative > portion used the Delphi method and the quantitative portion was a survey > of chairs of health education doctoral programs, key leaders in all of > the health education professional associations and members of the Delphi > panel who were selected for their expertise in health education theory > and/or theory development. > > I do not want to get into a major treatise on methodological issues > here, but would however like to share some of the general findings for > discussion purposes. > > Some general indications from the research: > > 1. The majority who were surveyed agreed that the development of > "comprehensive theory" specific to health education is important and > desirable, many however rated the task as not very feasible. > > 2. According to the Delphi panelists, many of the barriers to developing > such a theory were related to the size and complexity of the task and to > idiosyncracies in the profession of health education. For example, > the complexity of health behavior, conflicting goals/philosophies in the > field, lack of theoretical training in professional preparation programs, > and limited agreement on the basic definitions in the field. > > 3. The Delphi panelists consensus indicated that for such an endeavor to > be successful it would need the buy-in from health education professional > associations, involvement of a wide cross-section of health educators, > and effective leadership/critical thinkers. In addition, the profession > would need to increase the number of health educators trained in theory > development. > > > There are some/many(?) in our profession who do not see the need for > health education-specific theory in our discipline and are content > borrowing from other disciplines or utilizing fragments of theory > currently available in health education. This is obviously a valid > issue/position that can and should be discussed. > > Some of you may remember participating in the study I just described, > and some may recall hearing me report the results of this study at AAHPERD > in Portland last year. I am hopeful that those who are interested can > renew the dialogue that was begun in Portland over a year ago. > > > Marjorie E. Scaffa, Ph.D. > University of South Alabama > > > > On Sat, 6 Apr 1996, SENDER: ANSA.OJANLATVA@UTU.FI wrote: > > > Re: curriculum theory > > > > I am getting some good solid responses mailed to me directly regarding this > > issue. From where I sit (or stand, if you will), I feel this would be a good > > time to carry out a theoretical conversation on the topic. Would you be ready > > for it right now? I think it would be important. > > > > It would seem reasonable that those who teach health education theory and > > philosophy would need to cover a variety of theories and models. From what I a > m > > reading, model development seems to be the chosen way to go and develop this > > profession further. Since models traditionally seem to involve development fro > m > > a number of larger theories (and there are no solid health education theories > to > > draw from???), this is the chosen direction for curriculum development in > > health education... (At least this is the way I perceive the matter to be.) > > > > The education professionals in Finland refer to constructionist ideas in the > > development of new curricula, and I have had a member of of this network > > mention this theory (Steve, would you like to repeat your comments here?) > > Does it provide the way for us to move forward? > > > > In medicine, theory development does not seem important. Medical education > > dissertations are being written without a mention to educational theory > > (or sometimes any other theory) and criticized by the education professionals. > > > > Jill and others, what do you teach about health education curriculum > > development within the lists of theories you cover for future professionals? > > Do you explain different theories for different settings? Do you > > go into educational theory/theories? Do Newman, Dewey, Hutchins, Kerr and > > others matter when health education is being applied to general education > > programs? Who are the leading people in clinical curriculum theory (at e.g. > > Kaiser Permanente or medical education programs at the medical schools > > when programs are being set up)? What about the health education theory base > > for the educational programs of the profession (such as SIU, Ball State, > > Illinois. etc.) at the present time? > > > > I do not remember that the discussion a year ago would have netted any > > substantial amount of information --at least I do not recall it. Would there b > e > > interest in it now? Ansa. > > > > PS: I will not be able to access www programs at this point and it would be > > important to have the discussion within this network. Thank you. > > > > ************************ > > Ansa Ojanlatva, PhD, CSE, docent > > faculty member and Coordinator > > Dept Public Health Sexology Program > > Lemminkaisenkatu 1 Center for Reproductive and > > 20014 University of Turku Developmental Medicine > > Finland > > > > tel. +358-21-333 8513 (+358-21-333 81 operator) > > > > FAX +358-21-333 8439 > > > > (Please note the new "zip" code and telephone/fax "prefix") > > ************************ > > > ===================================================================== ==== #857 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 22:27:02 -0400 From: aj Subject: Re: May is National Masturbation Month? In-Reply-To: Hey there. Yes, Lea, you are correct, Good Vibrations has declared may National Masturbation Month. AS a matter of fact, today, May 7, is National Masturbation day!! Don't forget to celebrate and tell all your friends. Myself and some friends are the ones behind the stickers. we made many different versions of them. (fellow sexual health advocates jillian and miriam were also in on this venture.) anyhow, i've been wearing one on my bag and people certainly look twice. we should absolutely promote positive selflove in my opinion...another attempt to break down some taboos. happy celebrating! amy jo goddard NYU ****************************************************************************** "No hate in your head let love in your heart" --Sky Cries Mary ****************************************************************************** ===================================================================== ==== #858 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 22:35:35 -0500 From: Autumn R Raus Benner Subject: Re: generalist vs concentration In-Reply-To: <199605072236.RAA15326@obslave.ucs.indiana.edu> I am a doctorate student at Indiana University struggling with balancing being a full time mom and a full time student. Usually this goes well, but on one occasion, I was forced to take my 3 yr old daughter to class with me. It was the last day of classes, and no exam or anything was scheduled for this class meeting Here's the point. The professor in this class did not allow me to attend class on this evening. He stated "You have 15 minutes to get rid of her, or leave." Because I don't believe this is the universal policy of most professors, and because I want a diverse gathering of opinions, I am asking the many subscribers to the HEDIR to tell me what their general policy if for handling the occasional situation when a Student needs to bring a child to class. Please put your school association and department on your replies since I want to look at where the answers are coming from. Thanks in advance Autumn Benner abenner@indiana.edu ===================================================================== ==== #859 Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 08:09:34 -0500 From: "Marty Wood (Ball State University)" <00mlwood@BSUVC.BSU.EDU> Subject: Children in class I was appalled by Autumn Benner's tale of woe regarding children in the college classroom. We have a fairly large "nontraditional" student population here at Ball State, many of them single women struggling valiantly to pursue an education while supporting themselves and children. I find these students to be some of our most focused, motivated, high-achieving students. They bring an invaluable "real world" message to their classes, a clarity of purpose and vision that most of the 18-22 year olds can't summon up. These nontraditional students have frequently brought their children into my classes: school holidays don't always jibe with university ones, snow days, childhood illness, you name it, there are plenty of reasons. I have NEVER experienced any problems from children in class. They have always been quiet and respectful, sitting unobtrusively in the back of the room coloring or reading, and never disrupting class. I don't know what our official university policy is on class visits by children of students, but I would hate to bar any students from class because of family hardship. Marty Wood Assistant Professor Ball State University Muncie, IN ===================================================================== ==== #860 Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 09:20:25 EDT From: "Stu Fors (University of Georgia)" Subject: Re: Children in class In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 8 May 1996 08:09:34 -0500 from <00mlwood@BSUVC.BSU.EDU> Marty, et al: I haven't experienced any problems with children of students _visiting_ my classes because of some special occasion, such as those that you mentioned. However, I can see the potential for problems if a student was to bring a young child to all classes as a substitute for child care or a baby sitter. Additionally, when one or two kids come with their mother or father the behavior issue has been fine, but what happens if two, three or four parents start bringing their young children on a regular basis. There's going to be some interaction with those kids in the same room together and now the teaching-learning situation is compromised (at least for many of the other students). That's where profs (if not the institution as a whole) need to require students to ask permission ahead of time and to establish some other "ground rules". My experience in 25 years in higher ed has been that students have been very considerate of classmates in this regard. stu fors ===================================================================== ==== #861 Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 09:42:43 -0400 From: Robin Sawyer Subject: Re: Children in class I was extremely disappointed to hear of Autumn Benner's plight when circumstances necessitated her taking a child to class. I was a single parent for 5 years, raising 2 daughters, working, and finishing my doctorate at the same time. I was often let down by babysitters and without the forebearance of others I would never have kept my job, never mind complete my degree! Now that I'm on the other side of the fence, I have no problem if parents are occasionally forced to bring children to my class - I know only too well the vagaries of half days at school, snow days etc. Obviously, if some individuals abuse this flexibility or the children are disruptive then I may need to rethink my philosophy, but up to this point, students have not taken advantage and the children have been better behaved than some of my students!! At least the sound of colouring is less distracting than the "cracking" of gum!! Robin Sawyer University of Maryland ===================================================================== ==== #862 Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 09:02:00 CST From: Bill Cissell Subject: Forwarded Message HEDIR Subscribers: I am forwarding information that I downloaded from the Stand for Children email address. This event is scheduled for June 1, 1996 and I thought many of you would be interested in it. Bill D_Cissell@venus.twu.edu STAND FOR CHILDREN FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ) This version was updated on April 20, 1996 Thank you for your interest in Stand for Children Day! This FAQ should answer most of your questions about Stand for Children Day, its message and how you can get involved. If the answers to your questions are not on this FAQ, please see below how to obtain more information via e-mail, phone or post. If you have WORLD WIDE WEB access, visit our web site periodically for the most updated information on state by state contacts, travel information and endorsing organizations. You can find us on the Web at http://www.stand.org If your email message included requests for bulk materials or a message for someone on the Stand staff, it will be forwarded to the appropriate person. If you are a reporter working on deadline and need more information, please contact our Media Department by calling (800) 233 1200 x777 or (202) 234 0095 x 777. This FAQ answers the following questions: 1. What is Stand for Children Day? 2. Who is involved in Stand for Children? 3. Is the Stand an effort to build support for a partisan political agenda? 4. How will the Stand for Children make a lasting difference? 5. How can I get involved? 6. What will happen on June 1? 7. How can I get to DC and where will I stay? 8. What other information is available electronically? 9. How can I get in touch with the Stand for Children Day Office in DC? 1. WHAT IS STAND FOR CHILDREN DAY? ---------------------------------- A national day of commitment to children. A non-partisan call to action at a critical moment in our nation's history; the last national election year of the 20th century; the eve of a new millennium when our nation's legacy is at stake; a time when the decisions we now make will shape the future for our children and our nation in the coming century. A day for Americans to gather and affirm our responsibility as individuals, families, communities, and as a national community for improving the quality of life of children. A day for Americans of every race, age, region, income, and faith to unite in Washington, DC as a national community in support of children. A day to affirm what unites us rather than what divides us: a desire to raise healthy, educated, and moral children. A day for us to celebrate children and those who struggle every day to raise them well. A day to send a message to political, business and cultural leaders that they must do no harm to children and that they should make it easier rather than harder for families to raise children. A day where parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles, big brothers and big sisters, students and educators, advocates and nurturers will commit ourselves to doing better for children and commit to holding our cultural, business and political leaders responsible for doing more for children. A day to speak in one voice: "Leave No Child Behind!" 2. WHO IS INVOLVED IN STAND FOR CHILDREN DAY? --------------------------------------------- Stand for Children Day was the idea of Marian Wright Edelman, founder and president of the Children's Defense Fund, an organization that has for almost twenty-five years provided a voice for children in Washington DC. Stand for Children is a separate non-profit organization with broad-based support in every corner of the country. So far, over 1,800 national, state and local groups which represent tens of millions of Americans from every walk of life have endorsed this day of moral commitment to children. And the list continues to grow. To receive a current list of endorsing organizations via e-mail, send an email message to . Please note that this a large file-a list of over 1,800 organizations. 3. IS THE STAND FOR CHILDREN AN EFFORT TO BUILD SUPPORT FOR A PARTISAN POLITICAL AGENDA? ------------------------------------------------------------- June 1st will be a day of spiritual and community renewal. It will be a day of commitment to children, not a partisan political day. Americans who care about children are coming as parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles, big brothers and big sisters, students and educators, nurturers and providers, not as "Republicans" or "Democrats" or "Independents." And when they go back home, we hope that Americans of every persuasion will insist that local and national political leaders do no harm to children and take positive steps to support them. No politicians or candidates will be invited to speak at Stand for Children Day. Of course, if politicians want to come as parents they are welcome to do so. Supporting children and making it easier rather than harder for families struggling to raise them is not a partisan issue. Americans agree that every child should be given the chance to realize his or her God-given potential, and that no child should grow up hungry, sick, unsafe, or uneducated. We are trying to build a new spirit of caring for children that transcends party labels or racial, regional or economic boundaries. 4. HOW WILL THE STAND FOR CHILDREN MAKE A LASTING DIFFERENCE? ------------------------------------------------------------- Stand for Children Day is a call to action. The focus on June 1st will be on concrete steps that every American