#1428
Date:    Wed, 1 Oct 1997 08:59:32 -0700
From:    Renee Drellishak 
Subject: Mint Snuff

I recently saw an ad on television for a product called Mint Snuff. It's a
tobacco-free, nicotine-free substitute for spit tobacco. Ingredients
listed are maltitol syrup, mint, natural flavors, tocopherols (vitamin
E) and potassium sorbate.

I checked out their web page (www.1800eatmint.com), called for more
information, spent a *long* time on the phone with Ken Manske, director of
the Tobacco Intervention Network which is helping to promote this product,
and now have a box full of samples and brochures on my desk.

While we currently have no tobacco cessation program, I have received
requests for both smoking and chewing cessation programs and am wondering
how and whether to work this product in.

Has anyone else used this product for tobacco cessation programming and
what sort of success did you have?

Renee Drellishak, MPH
Manager of Health Promotion and Development
Hall Health Primary Care Center
University of Washington
(206) 616-8476
reneedre@u.washington.edu

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#1429
Date:    Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:09:56 -0500
From:    cass VanDerMeer 
Subject: training

Hello
I was forewarded your message by one of my accounts. I have a small
business that works with all divisions of social work / hospital on family
issues and issues related to staff and program development. We also do
Board development and trouble shooting in agencies.  We have a focus on the
family(myself and associates former domestic violence, sexual assault
shelter program experience)but we have gone as diverse as harassment in the
workplace to unions and stress management in social work and hospital
settings for staff. We would be interested to know what it is that you want
and we can send you a proposal. I will send a capabilities statement by
snail mail if you would be so kind as to send off your address.
Unfortunately no one will be in the office untill next monday but we will
respond then.
POSSIBILITIES
Cass VanDerMeer
408 W. Perry
DuQuoin, Il. 62832
Tel/fax 618 542 8216

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#1430
Date:    Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:55:44 -0500
From:    "Andrea Gielen (by way of \"Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D.\"
         )" 
Subject: Re: hedir home page

Andrea was having difficulty sending this via hedir.

Dear Colleagues:

If you are a member of the Public Health Education and Health Promotion
Section of APHA (and if not, consider joining!) --- we have a social
hour every year at the APHA meeting.  This event is fully supported by
outside donations every year and costs about $10,000.  We need your help
this year.  Do you know any potential sponsors who could contribute?
They would be appropriately recognized with signs and they could have a
small display at the social if they have one. Let me know if you have
someone we should contact.

Could you personally contribute?  Any amount would be gratefully
appreciated.  Send checks to  Michele Horton, APHA Headquarters, 1015
Fifteenth St. NW, Washington D.C. 20005.  Make sure to make a note that
contributions are for the PHEHP Social and send a copy to Dr. Audrey
Gotsch at University of Medicien and Dentistry of New Jersey, Robert
Wood Johnson Medical School 681 Frelinghuysen Rd. PO Box 1179
Piscataway, NJ 08855-1179.  Dr. Gotsch is the chair of our 75th
Anniversary Committee, which is organizing the special social hour being
held this year.

All contributions are tax dedctible.  Thank you very much and we hope to
see you in Indiana.

Andrea Gielen
Chair, PHEHP

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#1431
Date:    Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:28:21 -0500
From:    "David C. Wiley 245-2946" 
Subject: Jane Fonda

Dear Colleagues,

I was just curious, but did any of you this morning see Jane Fonda on Good
Morning America touting the virtues of "comprehensive sexuality programs" in
school settings? She was talking about the abstinence-only funds that have been
made available and how the majority of American don't want ab-only programs,
etc.. I must say that she was VERY well-informed. Did you get that impression??

Did I actually see this or am I hallucinating again??

Thanks,

DCW

------------------------------
#1432
Date:    Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:51:35 -0700
From:    Renee Drellishak 
Subject: More mint snuff stuff

Pat Lindsay had some good questions that she said I could share, along
with the answers according to the "literature" provided by the Tobacco
Intervention Network (which is, by the way, operating on a grant from the
Oregon Mint Snuff company, but whether or not tis is their sole source of
funding, I don't know.

Renee Drellishak, MPH
Manager of Health Promotion and Development
Hall Health Primary Care Center
University of Washington
(206) 616-8476
reneedre@u.washington.edu

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:12:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Renee Drellishak 
To: Pat Lindsay 
Subject: Re: Mint Snuff

Hi Pat,

hey, I'll take questions! The literature provided with the samples says
"Clinical reports to date have reported no staining of teeth, no dental
recession and no irritation to the gum tissues even if All Mint Chew is
held against the tissue for prolongued periods of time."

The maltitol syrup provides 1 calorie of sweetener and according to the
literature does not promote tooth decay.

It's food grade mint--but I don't know what that might mean in terms of
sand or grit.

As far as it being an entry substance, according to both the literature
and to the gentleman I spoke with, "All Mint Chew and All Mint Pouches"
are usually found in the tobacco sections at grocery and convenience
stores where people who *already* use tobacco will most likely find the
safe alternative. It is *not* marketed in the candy section as a
temptations for young adults to use and then "graduate" to tobacco."

The literature also talks about how it can be used when quitting cold
turkey; in conjunction with the patch; or to alternate with or dilute
regular chewing tobacco.


Renee Drellishak, MPH
Manager of Health Promotion and Development
Hall Health Primary Care Center
University of Washington
(206) 616-8476
reneedre@u.washington.edu

On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Pat Lindsay wrote:

> Renee - I have not recommended use nor heard about this product, but would
> have a question/concern or two about it.  I would assume it presents a
> similar risk for tooth decay/gum recession because (assuming it's used the
> same way as snuff) it's likely to be held in one spot in the mouth for
> extended periods of time.  I don't know if it presents risks for
> leukoplakia and/or oral cancers because I don't know the risks of the
> ingredients you listed.  Was sugar in any form listed as an ingredient?
> Also, what about sand/grit, etc., since those are known problems in regular
> snuff and contribute significantly to tooth enamel destruction?
>         For a heavily snuff-addicted person, this product might provide a
> reasonable temporary substitute for real snuff while the individual's body
> adapts to loss of nicotine.  I would worry, though, that since it's use
> mimics regular snuff use so closely, that relapse might be a major problem.
> I don't think it's a great improvement as far as  dental health is
> concerned.
>         For non-snuff users, I wonder if this would be an appealing entry
> substance for younger users - they could look like the older kids but
> perhaps buy this stuff legally until they're old enough to buy the real
> stuff without a hassle.  So, might we not be building a future consumer
> group for the tobacco industry?
>         Sorry, I don't have any answers - just more questions!  I'll be
> interested to hear what other folks say - will you summarize for the list?
> Thanks, Pat
>
> Pat Lindsay, MPH
> Health Education Program
> Cowell Student Health Center
> UC Davis
> Davis, CA 95616-8711
> (916) 752-4142 voice
> (916) 752-2306 fax
> pdlindsay@ucdavis.edu
>
>
>

------------------------------
#1433

Date:    Thu, 2 Oct 1997 08:33:22 -0500
From:    Nicole Aydt Klein 
Subject: Mint snuff--tooth decay

Interesting information about the mint snuff.  Some information on the
sweetener it uses:  Maltitol is a sugar alcohol.  One of the benefits of a
sugar alcohol over other carbs is that mouth bacteria metabolize it less
rapidly so sugar alcohols are less likely to contribute to dental decay.
That's why it can be said that some some sweet products don't cause tooth
decay. (Xylitol--another alcohol sugar has been found to inhibit production
of acids in the mouth---hence some chewing gum claims to prevent tooth
decay)  However, one of the side effects is diarrhea.

Pick yer poison...
____________________________________________
____________________________________________
Nicole Aydt Klein, Ph.D. CHES
Department of Health, Recreation and Physical Education
Vadalabene Center Box 1126
Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville
Edwardsville, IL  62026-1126
e-mail: nklein@siue.edu
phone:  618/692-2285
fax:    618/692-3369

------------------------------
#1434
Date:    Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:15:56 -0500
From:    "Mark A. Temple" 
Subject: Information Technology

INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY

   Wednesday, October 1, 1997

    Publisher Offers Personal Web Pages
    for Scholars Using Its On-Line Journals

    By LISA GUERNSEY

    With more academic journals popping up on the World-Wide Web every month,
    some scholars are beginning to use the Internet as if it were a
photocopier or reading
    room. But the Wiley & Sons publishing house, which opened its on-line
service
    today, wants professors to see it also as their personal workspace.

    For the next three months, anyone on the Web can test that approach by
tapping into
    the 50 journals that are available so far on Wiley InterScience. From
that page,
    company officials invite users to try out what they tout as an
innovation in scholarly
    publishing: "Personal Home Pages."

    A page is generated for each customer who requests one, and by clicking
on buttons
    and links within the pages, users build personal on-line spaces. The
pages are
    miniature Web sites that can be altered and customized by an Internet
user without
    any knowledge of H.T.M.L., the hypertext mark-up language for designing
Web
    pages. They are stored in the Wiley computer system so that they can be
retrieved,
    with passwords, again and again.

    Simply put, the pages are high-tech "bookmark" lists, where people can
save links
    to on-line articles. The concept is not new -- Web sites such as Excite
and
    BioMedNet have similar options for their readers -- but this is the
first time a journal
    publisher has attempted it. Wiley's personal home pages also offer
extras, such as
    areas where annotations can be entered and keywords can be saved for later
    searching.

    A professor of chemistry, for example, might choose to save a link to
an article in
    The Electronic Journal of Theoretical Chemistry, then add notes about
how the
    article relates to her research. She could also run a search using the
words "peptide"
    and "structure," save the results, and save the search itself so that
she can return a
    month later to find new articles that contain those keywords.

    "This is everything about making research better, richer, more
efficient, more
    productive," said Eric A. Swanson, Wiley's senior vice-president and
general
    manager of scientific, technical, and medical publications, at the
press conference at
    which the service was announced. Wiley officials pledge that they will
not look at
    any personal pages without the permission of the people who customized
them.

    By January, Wiley InterScience will be open only to those who have
access to
    libraries that have subscribed. The subscription price, which officials
have not
    disclosed, may differ for each library or consortium. (For more
information on how
    libraries pay for such services, see "University Libraries Debate the
Value of
    Package Deals on Electronic Journals," 9/12/97) In the next year,
officials say, all
    400 of the journals published by Wiley -- from the American Journal of
    Hematology to X-Ray Spectrometry -- will be available on line.

    Other publishers who are putting their journals on the Web include
Academic Press,
    which offers the electronic versions of 175 journals on its
International Digital
    Electronic Access Library; Elsevier, which so far provides access to 45
journals on
    ScienceDirect; the John Hopkins University Press, which has put 40
journals on
    Project Muse; and Stanford University Press, which has put 18 journals on
    HighWire Press.

          Background stories from The Chronicle:

                 "University Libraries Debate the Value of Package Deals
                 on Electronic Journals ," 9/12/97
                 "HighWire Press Transforms Publication of Scientific
                 Journals," 5/16/97
                 "Johns Hopkins U. Press Puts More Than 40 Journals on
                 Internet," 2/21/97

*************************************************************
Mark A. Temple, PhD, CHES
Assistant Professor of Health, Texas Tech University
MarkT@ttu.edu
Visit my home page:"Temple of Health"
                 http://129.118.36.78
(806) 742-2375
(806) 742-1688 FAX
**************************************************************
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world."
                        Buddha

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#1435
Date:    Thu, 2 Oct 1997 10:52:03 -0400
From:    "Sandra S. Bargainnier" 
Subject: Re: Jane Fonda

Yes I did see the Jane Fonda piece! It was well done and accurate.
She was well informed and a real advocate in our favor!!!

First Miss America and now Jane Fonda,........might we support them and
thank them somehow?


Sandy




On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, David C. Wiley
245-2946 wrote:

> Dear Colleagues,
>
> I was just curious, but did any of you this morning see Jane Fonda on Good
> Morning America touting the virtues of "comprehensive sexuality programs" in
> school settings? She was talking about the abstinence-only funds that have been
> made available and how the majority of American don't want ab-only programs,
> etc.. I must say that she was VERY well-informed. Did you get that impression??
>
> Did I actually see this or am I hallucinating again??
>
> Thanks,
>
> DCW
>


************************************************************************
**
Sandra Bargainnier Ed.D CHES                    voice mail 315/341-2879
Assistant Professor                             e-mail: ssbargai@syr.edu
Department of Health Science and Physical Ed.   or    bargainn@oswego.edu
The State University of New York (SUNY)
  College at Oswego
206 Laker Hall
Oswego, NY 13126.

------------------------------
#1436
Date:    Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:01:06 -0400
From:    "Sandra S. Bargainnier" 
Subject: school nurse software

I am helping a school nurse/health educator get started in a new
position. Does anyone know of any software programs for student health
records (K-12) and information??

Thnka you for your help


SAndy Bargainnier

please send email to : ssbargai@syr.edu


************************************************************************
**
Sandra Bargainnier Ed.D CHES                    voice mail 315/341-2879
Assistant Professor                             e-mail: ssbargai@syr.edu
Department of Health Science and Physical Ed.   or    bargainn@oswego.edu
The State University of New York (SUNY)
  College at Oswego
206 Laker Hall
Oswego, NY 13126.

------------------------------

#1437
Date:    Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:32:11 -0600
From:    Rodney Bowden 
Subject: Technology

To follow up on Mark Temple's posting, for those who use Netscape as their
browser can download the latest version (Netscape Communicator 4.03) and it
contains Netscape Composer which aids in the creation of web pages.  You do
not have to know HTML and it is similar to putting together a presentation
in power point.  It is very easy and user friendly!  You can change screen
and font colors, choose between backgrounds and if you have a scanner, you
can even have pictures.  It takes a bunch of memory, so you have to have
some hard disk space.  You also still need server space at your universtiy,
school or job.  But with this program anybody can create web pages.

Rodney Bowden

------------------------------------------------
Rodney Bowden, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Health Science
Stephen F. Austin State University
Voice: x 409-468-3503
Fax:   x 409-468-1850
E-mail f_BowdenRG@titan.sfasu.edu

------------------------------
#1438
Date:    Thu, 2 Oct 1997 14:08:25 -0400
From:    Mimi Kiser 
Subject: Re: Jane Fonda

Jane Fonda has an organization in Georgia (state wide) that works on
teenage pregnancy prevention. Yes, she is well informed and is trying to
make a difference here.
Mimi Kiser
Interfaith Health Program
The Carter Center
Atlanta


On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, David C. Wiley 245-2946 wrote:

> Dear Colleagues,
>
> I was just curious, but did any of you this morning see Jane Fonda on Good
> Morning America touting the virtues of "comprehensive sexuality programs" in
> school settings? She was talking about the abstinence-only funds that have been
> made available and how the majority of American don't want ab-only programs,
> etc.. I must say that she was VERY well-informed. Did you get that impression??
>
> Did I actually see this or am I hallucinating again??
>
> Thanks,
>
> DCW
>

------------------------------
#1439
Date:    Thu, 2 Oct 1997 13:01:00 -0400
From:    "Dushaw, Martha" 
Subject: FW: Mint Snuff

 ----------
From: Crossett, Linda
To: Dushaw, Martha
Subject: RE: Mint Snuff
Date: Wednesday, October 01, 1997 5:04PM

I am not on the network, so perhaps you could forward this message.
Mint Snuff has been out for a good while - about 5 years or so.  There
is some controversy about it (sort of like the one about candy
cigarettes), in that some feel it might encourage the oral habilt among
those who might move on to real tobacco.  As far as a cessation tool,
there have been some studies, and I think some of those were shown to
have been somewhat sucessful in helping folks quit using ST.
Two contact persons:

Herb Severson, Oregon Research Institute (who did the studies) -
503/484-2123; herb@ori.org

Samira Asma, CDC, Office on Smoking and Health (epidemiologist/dentist)
who is the specialist on ST in that Division - 770-488-5703;
sea5@cdc.gov
 ----------
From: Dushaw, Martha
To: Crossett, Linda
Subject: FW: Mint Snuff
Date: Wednesday, October 01, 1997 2:46PM

FYI
 ----------
From: Renee Drellishak
To: HEDIR-L@SIU.EDU
Subject: Mint Snuff
Date: Wednesday, October 01, 1997 11:59AM

I recently saw an ad on television for a product called Mint Snuff. It's
a
tobacco-free, nicotine-free substitute for spit tobacco. Ingredients
listed are maltitol syrup, mint, natural flavors, tocopherols (vitamin
E) and potassium sorbate.

I checked out their web page (www.1800eatmint.com), called for more
information, spent a *long* time on the phone with Ken Manske, director
of
the Tobacco Intervention Network which is helping to promote this
product,
and now have a box full of samples and brochures on my desk.

While we currently have no tobacco cessation program, I have received
requests for both smoking and chewing cessation programs and am
wondering
how and whether to work this product in.

Has anyone else used this product for tobacco cessation programming and
what sort of success did you have?

Renee Drellishak, MPH
Manager of Health Promotion and Development
Hall Health Primary Care Center
University of Washington
(206) 616-8476
reneedre@u.washington.edu

------------------------------
#1440
Date:    Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:50:11 -0400
From:    John Canfield 
Subject: Re: Jane Fonda & Miss America

Hi all,

One of our local PTA's is bringing in Miss America for an AIDS Awareness
Night for a cluster of public schools. She will speak on prevention and
they are also showing one section of the AIDS Quilt. They have also
invited Jane Fonda to speak. I will let you know how it all goes.

BTW, Miss America is not free... they charge for her appearances.

*********
John Canfield, M.Ed., C.H.E.S.
Director of Public Awareness
AIDGwinnett, Inc.
725 Scenic Highway
P.O. Box 884
Lawrenceville, GA  30046-0884
(770) 962-8396
(770) 962-1291
Jccanfield@worldnet.att.net


Sandra S. Bargainnier wrote:
>
> Yes I did see the Jane Fonda piece! It was well done and accurate.
> She was well informed and a real advocate in our favor!!!
>
> First Miss America and now Jane Fonda,........might we support them and
> thank them somehow?
>
> Sandy
>
> On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, David C. Wiley
> 245-2946 wrote:
>
> > Dear Colleagues,
> >
> > I was just curious, but did any of you this morning see Jane Fonda on Good
> > Morning America touting the virtues of "comprehensive sexuality programs" in
> > school settings? She was talking about the abstinence-only funds that have been
> > made available and how the majority of American don't want ab-only programs,
> > etc.. I must say that she was VERY well-informed. Did you get that
impression??
> >
> > Did I actually see this or am I hallucinating again??

------------------------------
#1441
Date:    Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:13:36 -0500
From:    Jeanne Herman 
Subject: Position Announcement

We invite your application for the following position:

The Department of Health and Exercise Science at Gustavus Adolphus College
seeks applicants for a tenure track position.  Qualifications include:
completed doctoral degree in health promotion or related field;  minimum of
two year's teaching experience;  ACSM certification - health fitness
instructor or exercise leader;  ARC instructor in first aid and CPR;
experience in health promotion and corporate fitness.  The position
includes teaching undergraduate courses in nutrition and exercise, stress
management, health fitness methods, senior seminar which includes a major
writing component, and a variety of health and fitness-related courses.

To apply for this position, send a letter of application, resume, and the
names and addresses of three professional references to:  Dr. Jeanne
Herman, Co-Chair, HES Dept., Gustavus Adolphus College, 800 West College
Ave., St. Peter, MN  56082-1498.  Review of applications will begin
December 1 and continue until the position is filled.  It is the policy of
Gustavus Adolphus College to provide educational and employment
opportunities for all.  We specifically encourage applications from women,
minorities, and persons with disabilities.

If you have any questions, e-mail  jherman@gac.edu.

Thank you for sharing this position announcement with your graduate
assistants and colleagues.

Jeanne

Jeanne M. Herman, PhD
Associate Professor and Chair
Dept. of Health and Exercise Science
Gustavus Adolphus College
212E Lund Center
800 West College Ave.
St. Peter, MN  56082
507-933-7614

------------------------------
#1442
Date:    Fri, 3 Oct 1997 09:24:53 PST
From:    BRAZAJ@WOU.EDU
Subject: Death of a Colleague

Dear colleagues and friends,

On August 24, Larry Fahlberg died in a climbing accident in the Tetons
Mountains in Wyoming. Larry was a Health Educator and professor at the
University of Wyoming. At the time of his untimely death, Larry was just
embarking on a year long sabbatical leave.

My professional connection with Larry began at the University of Utah
where he received his Ph.D. His professional contributions were numerous
including time spent on the editorial board for the Journal of Health
Education. I remember Larry as a fellow traveler on a spiritual journey.
Our conversations were seldom based on our professional agendas and were
often about living more fully, "following one's bliss," and
impermanence. Following his death, how quickly I was reminded that we
are all only one step away from death. Little did I know that the
accident of a healthy colleague would offer so many reminders of my own
impermanence.

What I remember most about Larry was his joy  and smile. His life and
his message were one and my life was impacted by his journey, peace,
and presence.

Lauri Fahlberg, his wife, has set up "The Larry Fahlberg Memorial Fund.
Donations received will be placed into a scholarship fund for a
Community Health student at Carroll College in Montana. Send
contributions to "The Larry Fahlberg Memorial Fund" at Box 10484,
Helena, Montana 59604. Lauri could use your good thoughts and prayers as
she struggles with pain of her great loss and begins a new teaching
position at Carroll College.
Her e-mail  is < lfahlber@carroll.edu>

"Remember, friends, as you pass by,
As you are now so once was I.
As I am now, so you must be.
Prepare yourself to follow me."
-Common eighteenth-century epitaph

Thank you for remembering Larry. Lauri would appreciate any support
regarding the Memorial Fund as well as your emotional and spiritual
help.

Warm regards,

Jerry Braza
Enjoy the moment,

Jerry

Jerry Braza, Ph.D.
Western Oregon University
Health Education
Monmouth, OR. 97351
503-838-8253

------------------------------
#1443
Date:    Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:59:54 -0700
From:    Andrew Jenkins 
Subject: Friday Inspiration

Friends and Fellows,

The greatest benefit of this job is the lifelong learning that goes on.
My students teach me things everyday.  During a discussion of the
necessary components of a health educcation program a student stated that
freedom of speech was absolutely crucial, without it education would only
be partial--never complete.  Bright kid!

"Better a thousandfold abuse of free speech than denial of free speech.
The abuse dies in a day, but the denial stays the life of the people and
entombs the race"
                        Charles Bradlaugh


Good Day!  Great tomorrows!

Andy J :{)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++
++++++++
"It is difficult to say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the
hope of today and the reality of tomorrow."  Robert Goddard




Andrew P. Jenkins, PhD, CHES
Health Education Programs
Central Washington University
Ellensburg, WA 98926
509-963-1041
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++
+++++++++

------------------------------
#1444
Date:    Fri, 3 Oct 1997 15:14:45 -0500
From:    Elizabeth Henderson 
Subject: Jobs in Missouri

A colleague ask that I send this to the HEDIR.  If you have questions
about the positions please contact Jim Pruitt, Bureau of Health Promotion,
MO Dept. of Health @ 573-876-3250.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CAREER OPPORTUNITY

Health Program Representative I
Salary Range: $21,288 - $23,500

The Missouri Department of Health invites applicants for the position of
Health Program Representative I.  Two positions are currently available to
work in the Southeastern District Health Office as part of Division of
Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion in Poplar Bluff,
Missouri. This position is under the Missouri State Merit System.

These positions will be responsible for assisting in planning, promoting,
implementing, and evaluating the Physical Activity Project in the Ozark &
Bootheel regions. These positions will also collaborate with community
leaders, employers, media, physicians, health educators, religious
institutions, and the public to promote and implement physical activity
policy initiatives.  Duties include providing information on the benefits of
physical activity to the local media, community organizations, agencies,
and the public. Maintaining a project log of contacts, events, media
coverage and other related information.  Complete monthly reports,
newspaper articles and routine correspondence.  Each position is
designated to coordinate community-based programs with emphasis on
women and physical activity to surrounding counties. One position
covers Dunklin, Mississippi, New Madrid, Pemiscot, Scott and Stoddard
counties.  The other position covers Butler, Carter, Howell, Ripley,
Shannon and Wayne counties.  Applicants must be able to work with
diverse groups, have excellent communication and organizational skills,
be able to travel and work flexible hours.

Minimum Experience & Training Qualifications

Graduation from an accredited four-year college or university with
specialization in health care administration, public, personnel or business
administration, the biological or social sciences, or education or High
school graduation plus four years experience in public health,
counseling, community organization or closely related fields.  Clerical
experience at the III-level or comparable (such as Data Control Clerk II,
Account Clerk II, Storekeeper I, etc.) with the Missouri Department of
Health or a local public health unit.

Resumes should be submitted by October 28, 1997 to: Nicholas
Williams, OPTPD, P.O. Box 570, Jefferson City, MO. 65102-0570.  The
Department of Health is an equal opportunity/affirmative action employer.
Services are provided on a nondiscriminatory basis.

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#1445
Date:    Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:15:14 EST
From:    Srijana Bajracharya 
Subject: comment

Hello everybody,

     It is ironic that we health educators have to depend on
celebrities like Jane Fonda and Miss America (who are not even health
professionals) to send our messages out to the public and be our
advocates.  When I watch national news on TV every morning, I see
mostly physicians talking about people's health behaviors, the
relevant research findings, and the importance of prevention.  They
speak about the significance of communication and services provided
by physicians, nurses, parents, and teachers, but not a mention of
health educators.

     It would be nice to see health educators starting to connect to
the national media, giving these messages themselves every so often,
and taking a lead on disease prevention/health promotion.

Am I the only one who sees these things and feels this way?

                       Srijana B.

Srijana M. Bajracharya, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
HPER Division
University of Maine at Presque Isle
Presque Isle, ME 04769

Bajra@polaris.umpi.maine.edu    OR  Srijana@Maine.Maine.Edu

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#1446
Date:    Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:35:56 GMT
From:    "MAHONEY, COLLEEN" 
Subject: Re: comment

I agree with Srijana.  I do not feel we have done a good job of
advocating our profession and initiatives.
cmahoney@emerald.educ.kent.edu
Colleen Mahoney
Assistant Professor, Health Education
ACHVE Department, 316 White Hall
Kent State University
Kent OH 44242

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#1447
Date:    Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:33:00 ET
From:    "J.BLACK" 
Subject: employment of health educators

To: HEDIR Readers

I have been searching for information about the employability or employment
status of health educators.  I am looking specifically for data related to the
following three issues:

1.  How many of our current health education graduates have jobs as health
educators?

2.  How many individuals with health education degrees are working in other
professions?

3.  How long does it take the average health education graduate to find a job
as a practicing health educator?  Bachelors?  Masters?  Doctorate?

Any information about these issues would help.  Comments and discussion also
are welcome.  What do YOU think?

Jill M. Black, Ph.D., CHES
Cleveland State University
2451 Euclid Avenue
Cleveland, OH  44115-2408
(216) 687-4829
j.black@csuohio.edu

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#1448
Date:    Fri, 3 Oct 1997 21:14:55 -0400
From:    "TOM SIMS (in WEST VIRGINIA)" 
Subject: Re: comment

I think the comment about the role of health educator as spokesperson is
very good.

I think that sometimes the reason the media doesn't come to us when a
health related item emerges is that we have not done some of the things
we need to do to increase our visibility.

I know that in my state we have made successful attempts to establish
relationships with the "health beat" reporters in the local media, and
they are as likely to come to us for a story as to go to local doctors
or others for comment/reaction.

Tom Sims (in West Virginia)

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#1449
Date:    Fri, 3 Oct 1997 21:29:36 -0700
From:    Margo Harris 
Subject: Fw: comment

When I read the comment about health educators as spokespeople, I couldn't
help thinking about a line in the movie, The American President.  Even (not
great) movies have some great lines.  The President is speaking about his
rival, and he is speaking about citizenship; so you have to substitute
health educator/education.  He says, "I thought the problem was that (name
inserted) didn't get it.  It's not that he doesn't get it.  It's that he
can't sell it."  Health educators "get it" better than ever before.  We
need to learn to market our message and work the media connections if we
want to be the spokespeople with the message that people listen to.
        On the other hand, if the message is being received successfully and acted
upon, it really doesn't bother me that it's coming from Jane Fonda or Miss
America.  Previous comments have mentioned how articulate, well informed,
etc. they are.  Is the message only acceptable if it comes from a health
educator directly?  Margo

Margo Harris
Harris Training & Consulting Services, Inc.
Email:  htcs@halcyon.com
Internet:  http://www.htcs.com/

------------------------------
#1450

Date:    Sat, 4 Oct 1997 08:23:40 -0700
From:    "R. Collins" 
Subject: Re: Fw: comment

Margo,

Thanks for sharing the line from the movie.  And I agree that we need to
encourage our message be shared by anyone and everyone who has access to
the media (health educator or not).  In this case the end justifies the
means......Keep up the super work.  You are a great resource person for
all of us.  Thanks.  Bob


Bob Collins                                     206-720-5038 (phone)
Center for Health Education & Research          collinsb@u.washington.edu
University of Washington                        206-720-4382 (fax)
1001 Broadway, Suite 100
Seattle, WA. 98122

On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Margo Harris wrote:

> When I read the comment about health educators as spokespeople, I couldn't
> help thinking about a line in the movie, The American President.  Even (not
> great) movies have some great lines.  The President is speaking about his
> rival, and he is speaking about citizenship; so you have to substitute
> health educator/education.  He says, "I thought the problem was that (name
> inserted) didn't get it.  It's not that he doesn't get it.  It's that he
> can't sell it."  Health educators "get it" better than ever before.  We
> need to learn to market our message and work the media connections if we
> want to be the spokespeople with the message that people listen to.
>         On the other hand, if the message is being received successfully and acted
> upon, it really doesn't bother me that it's coming from Jane Fonda or Miss
> America.  Previous comments have mentioned how articulate, well informed,
> etc. they are.  Is the message only acceptable if it comes from a health
> educator directly?  Margo
>
> Margo Harris
> Harris Training & Consulting Services, Inc.
> Email:  htcs@halcyon.com
> Internet:  http://www.htcs.com/
>

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#1451
Date:    Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:11:58 EDT
From:    Fred Breukelman 
Subject: Re: comment

It may be ironic, especially for those of you in the academic world.
Unfortunately, for many of us
in governmental public health agencies, we really need the Jane Fondas --
because our voices are
silenced by state and federal "lobbying" laws or even internal censorship.
We'd love to be very
vocal on the issue of honesty in sexuality education, and we're very
frustrated that we can't be without
risking our jobs.

-- Fred Breukelman
(from a state health department, of course)


Srijana Bajracharya  Wrote:
|
| Hello everybody,
|
|      It is ironic that we health educators have to depend
| on
| celebrities like Jane Fonda and Miss America (who are not
| even health
| professionals) to send our messages out to the public and
| be our
| advocates.
|                        Srijana B.
|
| Srijana M. Bajracharya, Ph.D.

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#1452
Date:    Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:58:02 -0500
From:    "Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D." 
Subject: Congratulations

Just a quick note to let the HEDIR family know of the recent marriage to my
colleague Judy Drolet and her husband Larry Townsend.  The long-awaited,
long planned ceremony took place this past weekend in San Francisco.
Congrats Judy and Larry...
Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D.
Home Page:  www.siu.edu/~kittle HEDIR Home Page:
www.siu.edu/~kittle/HEDIR/Menu.html
Editor:
International Electronic Journal of Health Education:
http://131.230.221.136/iejhe

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#1453
Date:    Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:26:40 -0600
From:    Amy Eyler 
Subject: job opening

The Prevention Research Center at the Saint Louis University School of
Public Health has an opening for a PROJECT MANAGER.  This manager
would be responsible for the day-to day operations of a grant titled
" Environmental and Poilcy Factors and Physical Acivity in Women".  The
grant is part of a 5-year, $2.5 million grant from CDC.  The grant is part of
the NIH Women's Health Initiative Community Prevention Study, and is
currently beginning its 3rd year.  The position requires considerable
independent initiative, accuracy, timeliness, and professional attitude.
Strong writing, oral presentation, and analytic skills are also essentail to
the position.  Education requires a Masters of Public Health and/or PhD in
a public health field.  Experience is desirable in assessing determinants
of physical activity and in development and evaluation of physical activity
interventions.  To apply or request more information, contact:
Ross Brownson, PhD
Director, Prevention Research Center
Saint Louis University
School of Public Health
3663 Lindell Blvd. Suite 360
St. Louis, MO 63108-3342
tel. 314-977-8110
fax 314-977-3234
email:  brownson@slu.edu

------------------------------
#1454
Date:    Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:18:02 -0500
From:    Jeffrey Clark 
Subject: employment of health educators -Reply

Jill,

There are two articles that are to be published in the Journal of health
Education in the near future (98?) that pertains to your one of your
questions.   The articles are the result of a manpower study that was
completed using a random sample of the nearly 3000 local/city/county
health departments.

Jeff Clark
(765) 285-8305
00JKCLARK@BSUVC.BSU.EDU
Ball State University

------------------------------
#1455
Date:    Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:31:40 -0500
From:    Holly Stone 
Subject: spokesperson

This conversation about health educators becoming a spokesperson has been really
interesting.  I agree that the publicity is good.  If we can get these key
figures to talk about these issues and give them exposure, then let's do it.
But what also concerns me is that they are doing our jobs.  Health educators are
seen as an expendable item.  If you look at most of the job descriptions out
there for the corporate wellness/health programs, most of them are looking for a
BSN or even and RN.  When people need information (specifically the media)
about these topics they go to the doctors and nurses.  But what bugs me is that
these people have hardly any training in these areas.  Doctors are not required
to take any nutrition, exercise, or diseas prevention classes (at least not the
ones with which I have had experience).  Some nursing schools require general
nutrition classes, but they still do not have the background, education, and
experience that we, as health educators, get when we go through our programs.

The basic point is that this exposure is great.  But in order to protect,
promote, and expand our profession we need to become the focal point.  Look at
what it has already cost us.  Many schools are losing or have lost their
physical education programs.  The rest of us are being asked to prove our worth
or face cut-backs or elimination.  We must move to the forefront.  We must show
that we are the best source of information.  We must show that we have been the
ones on the front lines educating, intervening, and researching.  We must show
that we are indispensable.



Holly Stone, M.Ed.
Wellness Faculty
Southern Methodist University
PO Box 750353
Dallas, TX 75275-0353
Phone:  (214) 768-1810
Fax:  (214) 768-1812
hstone@mail.smu.edu

------------------------------
#1456
Date:    Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:08:23 -0400
From:    "Mary E. Arnold" 
Subject: Re: comment about visibility of health educators (LONG)

Is it a question of the visibility of and reliance on health educators.....
or is it primarily an issue of getting "the messages" out there.

I've been a healthcare professional for 20+ years and only in the last 5
years have I entered the health education arena.  Today I teach nutrition
education at the elementary school level.  If it takes Miss America to get
the message out and someone voluntarily changes their lifestyle habits
because of it YAHOO!!!!  If Dr. Dean tosses a pearl of wisdom out there from
TV land and somebody voluntarily makes lifestyle changes YAHOO!!!!  If one of
my classes of fifth graders meets their goal of eating 5 fruits/vegetables a
day :::::::::: besides fainting:::::::::::: YAHOO!!!  If we as health
professionals support any and all messages that we know to be valid and that
can potentially elicit those voluntary changes.... then we're being visible
through others.

I have chosen to make myself visible to our state gubernatorial candidates in
the form of a letter to both of them.  I haven't received an answer from
either..... I've also submitted the question that I posed to both of them to
the debate committee that chooses questions from state voters to pose to the
candidates.  It is my hope that tomorrow night on the first televised debate
that my voice, as a health educator, will be heard through the media.  Text
of the letters follow.

Mary E. Arnold RNC, BSN
Graduate Student
Old Dominion University
School of Health Sciences, Department of Community Health Education
***********************************************************************
This letter was sent to both Mr. Jim Gilmore, and Mr. Don Beyer who are both
running for governor of Virginia.

I just finished reading the lengthy articles about you and your opponent (Jim
Gilmore) Don Beyer in this morning's Roanoke Times.  Listed within those
articles is  a comparison of promises, platforms, and proposals in both of
your campaigns.  I was specifically interested in the improvements that you
want to make in Virginia's public schools.

I have to admit that I agree with each of the four proposals that were
mentioned.  But, my concerns, for the public schools and especially for the
children that attend those schools, is for the preservation and support of a
comprehensive health education curriculum Pre-Kindergarten through grade 12.
 As the standards of learning changed to improve the level of instruction in
the core subjects, the standards that would improve the health of our
children have not changed drastically.... indeed, the requirements have been
set aside to make way for efforts to improve the academic performance of our
children.

In light of the changes within the healthcare arena over the last two
decades, it is imperative that the children attending school here in the
Commonwealth of Virginia receive instruction that will prepare them to become
responsible and self-directed partners in their individual health
maintenance.

School based health and nutrition education is one of the most powerful means
of early health promotion and disease prevention.  A comprehensive health and
nutrition education program can improve health practices that affect young
people's health, growth, and intellectual development.  Young people need
health education to help them develop appropriate lifestyle practices .  If
they learn how to make nutritionally sound dietary choices as well as healthy
lifestyle decisions early in their lives, during the stages of development
when they can develop and practice the skills that they will be taught, they
will be reducing their risk later in life for development of acute and
chronic illness.  Five of the ten leading cause of death in the United States
today can be directly linked to poor lifestyle and nutritional habits.  It is
an issue of national importance that should draw the concern, participation,
advocacy, and leadership of legislators, educators, parents, and the local
community.

My question to you, Mr Gilmore (Mr. Beyer), is where do you stand on
emphasizing the vital importance of health education in our public schools?
 Are you willing to raise the public's awareness of this issue during your
campaign?  How would you plan to prevent the elimination of health education
classes so that other academic subjects can be reinforced?

Sincerely,

Mary E. Arnold RNC, BSN
Graduate Student
Old Dominion University
School of Health Sciences, Department of Community Health Education

315 Arrowhead Trail
Christiansburg, VA  24073
540-381-2648
e-mail:  CburgMom@aol.com

------------------------------
#1457
Date:    Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:20:03 -0700
From:    Margo Harris 
Subject: Public Sector Restraints

Thanks, Fred.  I think that's a limitation that some of us may be unaware
of, i.e. some of the limitations on those in the public sector.  Perhaps
others want to comment.  Whether you are employed in the public sector,
non-profit, etc., you may be constrained by regulations pertaining to
lobbying.  In addition, public comment may reflect on an organization's
donations or public image, and public comments may be reduced or diluted to
be more careful or acceptable to a wide audience.
        The available science/research is also a factor.  A recent interview of an
NIH representative of the salt reduction campaign was made pretty
uncomfortable when the issue of science was raised, science that indicated
that salt reduction was of little or no health benefit, yet the government
was moving forward with the high profile, expensive campaign.  Margo

Margo Harris
Harris Training & Consulting Services, Inc.
Email:  htcs@halcyon.com
Internet:  http://www.htcs.com/

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#1458
Date:    Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:53:54 -0400
From:    Healthy Concepts 
Subject: Health educators, the media, etc.

Here, here Margo for telling it like it is.  Health educators may know how
to do it better, but we haven't mastered the marketing part.  What we can
do, however, is collaborate with those who can market the message.  I am
proud that our recently published findings evaluating NYC schools' condom
availability program made it to the front page of the New York Times and
then was picked up by every New York area and some national media.  Granted,
we had the luxury of funds to pay a public relations firm to help us get the
message out, but the result is that the NYC schools are under new pressure
to keep the program going. Health education research might actually
influence policy!  So if it takes Miss America, Jane Fonda, or the New York
Times to put our work on the map, I'm all for it.

Lisa Lieberman
healthy concepts

------------------------------
#1459
Date:    Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:44:34 -0500
From:    "Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D." 
Subject: Death of a Colleague

What a horrible tragedy to hear about Larry, but what a wonderful eulogy by
Jerry.  Other than through electronic means I never met Larry, but numerous
times, out of the blue, he would send me an uplifting e-mail.  It was always
sent at the right time (he must have had ESP or something).  I can't fathom
what that loss is to his wife and family. God bless her and the others who
are grieving their loss.

Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D.
Home Page:  http://131.230.221.136
HEDIR Home Page:  http://131.230.221.136/HEDIR/Menu.html
The International Electronic Journal of Health Education:
http://131.230.221.136/iejhe/

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#1460
Date:    Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:41:27 -0400
From:    Mimi Kiser 
Subject: [IHP-NET] Job Opening (fwd)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 09:56:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Thomas A. Droege" 
To: ihp-net 
Subject: [IHP-NET] Job Opening

The Interfaith Health Program (IHP) of The Carter Center is launching a
new program, the Faith and Health Consortium (FHC).  A national search for
a program coordinator for the FHC is being conducted by The Carter Center
on behalf of the IHP.  Following a general description of the FHC, some
specifics about this position will be provided.

FAITH AND HEALTH CONSORTIUM: A Carter Center Project to Develop
Strategies
for Curriculum Development and Research of Faith/Health Practices in Schools of
Theology and
Public Health

A Carter Center survey of course offerings in schools of public health,
theology, nursing and   medicine identified curricular offerings linking
faith and health in many universities and seminaries in the US, 33 of
which have been placed on the WWW site of its Interfaith Health Program
(http://www.interaccess.com/ihpnet/syllabi.htm).  An aggressive program to
stimulate additional curriculum development and research of best practices
in faith and health programs is needed to heighten the awareness and
deepen the commitment of future religious and health leaders to faith and
healthcollaborative endeavors.

The Interfaith Health Program of The Carter Center is instituting a Faith
and Health Consortium (FHC) to shape the professional identity of future
religious and health leaders at a critical stage of their graduate
training by introducing them to faith/health linkages at both theoretical
and practical levels.

The Carter Center is widely known and respected in the academic community
because of the reputation of President Carter and the programs he has
initiated since his retirement from public office. The credibility of The
Carter Center in academic circles is enhanced by its affiliation with
Emory University.  It draws on the expertise of Emory faculty for its
national and international programs and in turn provides faculty and
students of the university an interface with the social and political
spheres they are attempting to interpret and influence.  The Carter Center
is not a think tank but a base of operations for academics with an
activist agenda.  Focusing on the interface between theory and practice is
what The Carter Center does best.

The Faith and Health Consortium will consist of five universities with a
school of public health and a seminary or school of theology, located
either at the university or in close proximity.  Schools of public health
and theology are key partners in this project in that both have a praxis
base in community health/ministry.

Where possible, schools of nursing and medicine will be included as well.
The link between faith and health in these disciplines is found in
clinical practice.  Building on what is already happening in mind/body
studies, curriculum development and research in nursing and medicine will
deepen an understanding of the relationship between spirituality and
health.

Each of the five academic partners in the Faith and Health Consortium will
form an interdisciplinary task force of faculty and students from
participating schools that will meet regularly throughout the academic
year for critical conversation, planning joint projects, and discussing
curricular and research concerns.  Communication among the five FHC sites
will be mostly on-line and through conference calls, but once a year
representatives from all the academic centers will meet at The Carter
Center.  Professional meetings such as the APHA and the AAR will provide
opportunities for interaction among Consortium members and for sharing
information with professional colleagues.

Expected Outcomes of the Faith and Health Consortium
Syllabi On-line.  The 33 syllabi already located on the IHP web site
will be regularly updated and supplemented by a more thorough review of
current course offerings.  Easy availability of faith/health course
offerings in all health-related disciplines is essential for the
stimulation of additional curricular development in both graduate and
undergraduate universities.

Curricular Development.  Each of the academic partners will develop a
plan for adding units to existing courses as well as new course offerings
linking faith and health, including at least one interdisciplinary course.
In addition, training modules for lay health workers and summer institutes
for religious and health leaders will be developed as faculty/student
projects.

Research and Field Education.  Research by public health and seminary
students (jointly when possible) on public health and faith community
practices within a specified region of the US will provide a rich source
of information about best practices that will be disseminated by the
Interfaith Health Program.  Field education will be available for
interested students in faith/health practice sites.

Annual meeting of academic partners.  Each summer faculty and students
from partner schools will meet at The Carter Center to share information
about curricular development, dual degree programs,  and research of
faith/health practices.

Faith and Health Consortium Sites
- Atlanta: Emory University, Interdenominational Theological Center,
Columbia Seminary, Morehouse School of Medicine
- Berkeley: University of California, Graduate Theological Union
- Pittsburgh: University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh Theological Seminary
- Saint Louis: Saint Louis University, Aquinas Institute, Concordia
Seminary, Eden Seminary
- South Carolina: University of South Carolina, Lutheran Theological
Southern Seminary

JOB DESCRIPTION FOR FHC PROJECT COORDINATOR

Candidates for the position of FHC project coordinator should be familiar
with the connections between faith and health at both theoretical and
practical levels.  At the level of theory, this entails familiarity with
the salutary effects of spirituality/religion on health outcomes, public
health science and strategies, and a theological understanding of the
health and healing mission of faith traditions.  At the practical level,
this entials familiarity with faith/ health practices, such as
congregational health ministries and collaboration between public health
and faith communities on strategies to improve health.

Candidates with training and experience in health promotion (health
education, community health) should have knowledge and experience in
relating that background to faith traditions and congregational practices.
Candidates with training and experience in theology and congregational
ministries should have knowledge and experience in relating that
background to health promotion in individuals, congregations, and
communities.

The FHC project coordinator must have management skills to coordinate
activities at many different levels, communications skills to relate
effectively with both academic colleagues and community activists, and the
leadership capacity to guide the growth of  FHC sites and expand their
number.

The project coordinator will have the following responsibilities:
- Provide support for faculty, students, and community leaders at each of
the FHC sites through regular site visits and personal communications.
- Establish a communication infrastructure (internet, www site, and
conference calls) for regular collegial contact among academic and
community at each site.
- Manage the IHP web site of course offerings linking faith and health.
- Convene an annual conference of FHC academic and community partners at
The Carter Center.
- Facilitate intra-professional dialogue of persons interested in
faith/health connections at professional meetings, such as AAPH and AAR.
- Encourage research and writing by public health and seminary students
and faculty.
- Develop the capacity at FHC sites for service learning and community
leadership training programs.
- Share responsibilities with other IHP staff in support of total IHP
program.
- In conjunction with the development office, assist in the identification
of funding resources and the development of fund-raising strategies and
initiatives.
- Represent the FHC through speaking engagements, attendance at
professional meetings, and writing projects.
- Conduct an ongoing program evaluation of the FHC at The Carter Center
and assist in an ongoing program evaluation at each of the FHC sites.

The project coordinator of the FHC reports to the Director of IHP and is a
member of the IHP staff, working closely with staff colleagues in planning
and implementing the larger IHP mission.  Specifically, this entails
integrating FHC centers and activities into other IHP coalitions,
initiatives, and projects.

Minimum qualifications: Ph.D. degree (or its equivalent) in a field
related to program area or Master's degree with three years related
program management experience.

We anticipate that the largest number of interested in and qualified
persons for this position are likely to hear about it through the message
on this and other listserves for religious and health professionals.
Please forward this message to any listserve that may have persons who
might wish to apply.

Send resumes to The Carter Center, c/o Jim Dunn, Direcor, Organizational
Development, One Copenhill Avenue, Atlanta, Georgia 30307.  FAX
404-420-3818

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#1461
Date:    Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:45:35 -0400
From:    Jack Osman 
Subject: Re: spokesperson

At 10:31 AM 10/6/97 -0500, Holly Stone wrote:
>This conversation about health educators becoming a spokesperson has been
really
>interesting.  I agree that the publicity is good.  If we can get these key
>figures to talk about these issues and give them exposure, then let's do it.
>But what also concerns me is that they are doing our jobs.  Health
educators are
>seen as an expendable item.  If you look at most of the job descriptions out
>there for the corporate wellness/health programs, most of them are looking
for a
>BSN or even and RN.  When people need information (specifically the media)
>about these topics they go to the doctors and nurses.  But what bugs me is
that
>these people have hardly any training in these areas.  Doctors are not
required
>to take any nutrition, exercise, or diseas prevention classes (at least
not the
>ones with which I have had experience).  Some nursing schools require general
>nutrition classes, but they still do not have the background, education, and
>experience that we, as health educators, get when we go through our programs.
>
>The basic point is that this exposure is great.  But in order to protect,
>promote, and expand our profession we need to become the focal point.
Look at
>what it has already cost us.  Many schools are losing or have lost their
>physical education programs.  The rest of us are being asked to prove our
worth
>or face cut-backs or elimination.  We must move to the forefront.  We must
show
>that we are the best source of information.  We must show that we have
been the
>ones on the front lines educating, intervening, and researching.  We must
show
>that we are indispensable.
>
>
>
>Holly Stone, M.Ed.
>Wellness Faculty
>Southern Methodist University
>PO Box 750353
>Dallas, TX 75275-0353
>Phone:  (214) 768-1810
>Fax:  (214) 768-1812
>hstone@mail.smu.edu
>

I have great respect for people who can make love to a camera lens. Few
health educators, particularly few with Ph.D., M.P.H., Ed.D., (and look-out
-- CHES) behind their names have any training (and little skill)
communicating to the masses via TV. It is a learned art form that takes
practice, practice, and more practice. Years ago, in early TV, directors
soon learned that it was easier to make an actor into a doctor, than try to
have a real MD become an actor. Perhaps that can also be said for health
educators.

As one of those CHES/Ph.D.'s I've had my share of opportunities to
communicate the health message on TV. And yes, I've fallen flat on my face
because of a lack of experience and training in the medium. Believe me, it
isn't easy and it doesn't come naturally. (But if this is a competency for
our profession, where is the training coming from?)

No one can lay claim to the health message -- exclusively. Along with St.
Paul, I don't care how the message is preached or who does the preaching.
No one owns the "truth." God bless Miss America, Jane Fonda and/or Dr. X.
Let the truth prevail. Sure it would be nice if we who are full blown
health educators could become the medium and the message, but if truth be
know -- as painful as it might be for some of us -- we lack the skills and
the visibility to do it as effectively as non-certified health communicators.

Jack D. Osman
Towson University

------------------------------
#1462
Date:    Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:59:29 -0700
From:    Dawn Graff-Haight 
Subject: Re: Jane Fonda

I happened to be home with a sick child and saw Jane on the Rosie
O'Donnell show on Thursday afternoon.  She spoke about Comprehensive
Sexuality Education programs, and encouraged parents to demand quality,
comprehensive sexuality education programs.  She was very well informed.
Had good data and used it well about the number and percentage of sexually
active teens.  I nearly fell off my chair.  Go Jane!!!

Dawn Graff-Haight
Health Human Performance and Athletics
Linfield College

1-503-434-2641


On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, David C. Wiley 245-2946 wrote:

> Dear Colleagues,
>
> I was just curious, but did any of you this morning see Jane Fonda on Good
> Morning America touting the virtues of "comprehensive sexuality programs" in
> school settings? She was talking about the abstinence-only funds that have been
> made available and how the majority of American don't want ab-only programs,
> etc.. I must say that she was VERY well-informed. Did you get that impression??
>
> Did I actually see this or am I hallucinating again??
>
> Thanks,
>
> DCW
>

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#1463
Date:    Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:37:19 -0700
From:    Dawn Graff-Haight 
Subject: Re: Fw: comment

I agree with Margo's comment about the source of accurate, meaningful
health information from folks who aren't necessarily professionally
trained health educators.

I'd like to point out that these people are getting their information from
somewhere.  Could it be that their sources are HEALTH EDUCATORS?

Let's continue to applaud and support those in the public eye who pick up
our cause and assist us in getting the word out.  Jane Fonda reached more
people on Rosie O'Donnell last Thursday than I will in a lifetime.  And
even if I was on Rosie to do my song and dance for Health Education,
because I'm NOT Jane Fonda, most folks would choose that time to get up
and go to the bathroom.

Dawn Graff-Haight
Health Human Performance and Athletics
Linfield College

1-503-434-2641

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#1464
Date:    Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:30:39 -0600
From:    "William B. Cissell" 
Subject: Celebrities delivering the message

HEDIRS,

        I applaud all the professional health educators and
health promoters who have approved of celebrities delivering
health messages.  Jack Osman was eloquent in describing
how celebrities are much better suited to delivering messsages
via television and movie cameras.  Health educators have a much
broader array of skills and competencies than merely delivering
health messages.  We should appreciate the performance of those
who can be particularly successful in delivering such messages.

         Let's continue assessing needs, planning effective
health education/health promotion programs, utilizing appropriate
strategies while implementing successful health education programs,
evaluating health education programs so that we can improve upon
them, coordinating our programs and practices with those of other
health professionals and lay persons seeking the educate about
and promote health, facilitating access to health related
resources, communicating about health and health education and
health promotion, conducting research on health education and
health promotion processes and practices, administering health
education and health promotion programs, and advancing the
profession.  These collectively contribute to a professional
who is much more complex and sophisticated than one who merely
delivers health messages.

        May we all continue to enjoy good health, professional
satisfaction, and personal fulfillment.  Let's also comfort those
who have suffered losses as Lauri did.  Many of us will miss
our colleague, Larry.

                                Bill            D_Cissell@twu.edu

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#1465
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 06:52:48 -0400
From:    Nursedisel@AOL.COM
Subject: subscribe

Subscribe to Health List   Nurse Disel

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#1466
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:21:46 -0500
From:    Rob Bates 
Subject: University Program Data Needed

>Dear University Health Professionals,
>
>The Department of Health Studies at Eastern Illinois University has been
requested by our President to identify comparable health programs for the
purposes of benchmarking our performance with other institutions.  We are
asking for your help in this very demanding task. Would you please take a
moment and supply us with the information requested below?  We are on a very
short time line and your immediate attention is needed.  THANK YOU!!
>
>Benchmarking Data Requested for 1996-1997 Academic Year
>
>1. Number of undergraduate majors:    Community Health ____ School Health
_____
>
>2. Number of majors that graduated in 96-97:        ____________
>
>3. Full Time teaching faculty for Health Courses __________FTE
>
>4. Budget Dollars for Health program $______________
>
>5. Number of Personnel for Administration of Health Programs ______FTE
>
>6. Number of office support personnel: Secretary _____ Student workers _____
>
>7. Total Semester hours generated* in Health program   ____________SHG
>
>* Semester Hours Generated is calculated by totaling the number of semester
hours generated for all the health courses for the academic year - Fall 1996
and Spring 1997. To determine the SHG for a course, take the number of
students enrolled and multiply by the number of semester hours of the
course. EXAMPLE: HST 2000 is three semester hours and has 32 students
enrolled =96 SHG.
>
>8. Are you willing to share this data with other Health programs? ________
>
>If the Department of Health Studies can ever return the favor, please do
not hesitate to contact us.
>
>If there are any questions as to the data needed you can E-mail
cfrpb@eiu.edu, fax 217-581-7013 or call 217-581-5761 M-F 8-4:30 or call me
at home in the evenings and weekends at 217-345-2535.  I will return your
call as soon as I possibly can because without your help, we cannot meet our
goal.
>Thanks.
>
>Rob Bates
>
Robert P. Bates, Chair
Eastern Illinois University
Department of Health Studies
600 Lincoln Ave.
Charleston, IL 61920-3099    _________
217-581-5761                |         |
Fax 217-581-7013         ___|         |__
                        |    _       _   |
                        | - |_|-----|_|--|_.......................

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#1467
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:50:14 GMT
From:    "MAHONEY, COLLEEN" 
Subject: Re: Celebrities delivering the message

This discussion regarding health messages and celebrities is
interesting.  I have no trouble with celebrities assisting us in
getting health messages out -- as long as the messages are based on
accurate information I believe it can be very useful.  In fact, a
strategy for health communication efforts is selecting a spokesperson
to deliver the message(s).

However, I also think we need to caution the idea/belief that it can
be left up to the celebrities.  Many physicians and nurses also serve
as spokespersons yet they do not have training in working with the
media, marketing etc.

Bottom line -- we need to be advocates for our profession and
initiatives.  We need to make sure future health educators have
training in social marketing and advocacy.  To this day many
professionals (including those in the medical field) and most lay
people have no idea what health education is/ who health educators
are.  Yes, our goal is getting the word out in hope that communities
and individuals will become healthier and it takes many types of
people and professions to advance that goal.  But I would like to see
us in the forefront of such efforts; if we are not we may just
disappear.

I'd be interested in knowing from those of you who saw Jane Fonda --
did she mention health education/health educator?  If so great!  If
not.....
cmahoney@emerald.educ.kent.edu
Colleen Mahoney
Assistant Professor, Health Education
Coordinator, Center for Health Promotion
ACHVE Department, 316 White Hall
Kent State University
Kent OH 44242

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#1468
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:27:29 -0700
From:    "elmar (by way of Jim Grizzell  by way of Jim
         Grizzell )" 
Subject: Something to Look Into: Health Promotion Sponsorships

I'm on a marketing listerv and the third paragraph of this message is
something we ought to look into further.  Someone has done some research we
may be able to use.  Jim

From:    Richard Speed 
Date:    Tue, 07 Oct 1997 09:17:53 +1000
Subject: RESPONSE - Valuation of Sports Sponsorship or Publicity

I strongly endorse Bettina Cornwell's comment.  Measuring (and putting
some $ value to) exposure tells us very little about the likelihood of
changes in purchase behaviour or attitude on the part of customers,
and even less about the achievement of some of the objectives that can
be pursued with sponsorship.

The problem with sponsorship is that so many objectives can be pursued
using it and so many activities can be undertaken in support of it,
that it is impossible to provide a simple metric to convert spending
to impact, however measured.  Of course, this does make it a fun area
to research.

The area that seems most advanced in terms of evaluation is health
promotion sponsorships.  Rob Donovan (of University of Western
Australia) and co-authors presented a paper at the Market Research
Society of Australia/ Market Research Society of New Zealand
Conference in 1996 that did look at the impact of health promotion
sponsorships all the way from exposure through to behavioural change.
They also attempted to compare the impact of big $/small $
sponsorships.  I do not know if this paper has been submitted to any
journal.  I should point out that they had access to a large data base
containing measures on all health promotion sponsorships funded by the
state.

Richard Speed
Associate Professor of Marketing
Melbourne Business School
--
Email List for Marketing Academic Research (elmar)
elmar messages to:                                      elmar@sc.edu
elmar questions to:                             elmar-request@sc.edu
elmar archives:                  http://cards.badm.sc.edu/elmar/raw/

Moderated by:
Peter Palij, University of South Carolina                 pbp@sc.edu

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#1469
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:48:32 -0400
From:    Carl Peter 
Subject: Re: Celebrities delivering the message

Will our health education national offices be writing a thank you to Jane
Fonda and Miss America...of course to thank them but more importantly to let
them know their messages are important and that the health education
profession exists and is available to assist them in any way.  Write to AAHE,
SOPHE, ACHA, ASHA, APHA sections, and endorse that they should do this.  We
have too long been one of the "best kept secrets" in
public/community/personal health.

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#1470
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:58:38 -0400
From:    Valerie Welsh 
Subject: Re[2]: Celebrities delivering the message

        My two cents:  The major issue is:  what, if anything, does the
        professionally trained health educator contribute to society by way of a
        "unique value added" that others less or differently trained (i.e.,
        celebrities, RNs, social workers, etc.) do not?  How do we--and, esp.
        members of the general public, know it?

______________________________ Reply Separator
_________________________________
Subject: Re: Celebrities delivering the message
Author:  "MAHONEY; COLLEEN"  at
INTERNET
Date:    10/7/97 10:50 AM


This discussion regarding health messages and celebrities is
interesting.  I have no trouble with celebrities assisting us in
getting health messages out -- as long as the messages are based on
accurate information I believe it can be very useful.  In fact, a
strategy for health communication efforts is selecting a spokesperson
to deliver the message(s).

However, I also think we need to caution the idea/belief that it can
be left up to the celebrities.  Many physicians and nurses also serve
as spokespersons yet they do not have training in working with the
media, marketing etc.

Bottom line -- we need to be advocates for our profession and
initiatives.  We need to make sure future health educators have
training in social marketing and advocacy.  To this day many
professionals (including those in the medical field) and most lay
people have no idea what health education is/ who health educators
are.  Yes, our goal is getting the word out in hope that communities
and individuals will become healthier and it takes many types of
people and professions to advance that goal.  But I would like to see
us in the forefront of such efforts; if we are not we may just
disappear.

I'd be interested in knowing from those of you who saw Jane Fonda --
did she mention health education/health educator?  If so great!  If
not.....
cmahoney@emerald.educ.kent.edu
Colleen Mahoney
Assistant Professor, Health Education
Coordinator, Center for Health Promotion
ACHVE Department, 316 White Hall
Kent State University
Kent OH 44242

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#1471
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:04:31 -0400
From:    Michaela Conley 
Subject: Health Promotion Positions Available

Mercy Regional Health System Greater Cincinnati is seeking Healthplex Site
Director(s) for Mercy Centers for Health and Wellness  Early In 1998, Mercy
Regional Heath System Greater Cincinnati will open two (2) 230,000+sf Mercy
Center for Health and Wellness facilities serving the Anderson and
Fairfield locations.  The Centers support Mercy's commitment to serving
mind, body and spirit.  Each $20MM center will contain educational areas,
300 seat auditoriums, health resource centers / libraries, rehab therapies
and cardiac rehab, child care services, children's activity areas and
gymnasiums, physician offices and fitness areas.

The Healthplex, the fitness portion of the Centers, occupies over 100,000sf
of the total space and will be the prototype of a new generation of health
and fitness club.  Each Healthplex will be served by state-of-the-art
strength training and exercise equipment, aerobics studios, lap pools,
temperature controlled therapy/aquatics pools, squash, racquetball and
tennis courts and Indoor walking / jogging tracks.  Each anticipating over
100,000 visits per year, these Centers are the tangible expression of
Mercy's commitment to the holistic mission of the Sisters of Mercy.

Mercy 5eel<.s two (2) top professionals to add value to each participant's
membership, by leading a large staff In fitness, aquatics, children's
programming, aerobics and sports activities.  A cut above the crowd, the
Directors will manage a budget of

over $2.4MM with a projected membership of 3000 to 5000+.  The Directors
will be directly responsible for all human resources functions, special
events planning, program development, equipment management and
communication with other team members to assure Integration of services
into a holistic continuum of care.

Qualifled candidates must possess a minimum of six (6) years field
experience, Including a minimum four (4) years In a management capacity In
the public / commercial side of the fitness Industry In a facility / club
of comparable size and complexity.  Additionally,, candidates must have a
Bachelors degree specific to healthcare/ health processions a Masters
degree Is preferred.  Candidates must also demonstrate accomplishments In
membership development and customer service programming.  Excellent
communication skills are requisite.

In seeking the top professionals In the Industry to play a leadership role
In the continuing evolution toward holistic healthcare, Mercy offers a very
competitive salary, complete benefits programs as well as personal and
professional growth opportunities.  The Greater Cincinnati area offers an
above average quality of life Including reasonable cost of living,
recreational and cultural opportunities to suit any life style and good
educational venues at all levels.

Interested candidates must submit their credentials for consideration by
contacting,
Kathy Powell-Florip, President
job code: hp97107
Alliance Search Management, Inc.
800 Rockmead, Suite 122 9 Kingwood, TX 77339
Ph.: 800.208.6089
Fax: 281.358.6817          All inquiries handled In confidence

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#1472
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:18:55 GMT
From:    "MAHONEY, COLLEEN" 
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Celebrities delivering the message

I think that is the underlying issue and I'm not sure you'll get
consistent answers.  My belief is that primary prevention is what
makes us different.  My concern is we try to (and say we can) do it
all.  I believe our special competencies are needs assessment/program
planning/evaluation -- at least in concept.
cmahoney@emerald.educ.kent.edu
Colleen Mahoney
Assistant Professor, Health Education
Coordinator, Center for Health Promotion
ACHVE Department, 316 White Hall
Kent State University
Kent OH 44242

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#1473
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:44:55 -0400
From:    Patricia Houston 
Subject: What makes us different......

I think that what makes us different is that we are able to maintain a
holistic perspective of health issues and how each individual issue
interacts with each other, with individuals, with communities, other
professions, and the environment as a whole.  We utilize lay health
professionals to help us carry our messages to communities, so I have no
problem with media personalities advocating for healthy behaviors.  What
needs to be understood is that often lay health professionals and/or the
media only advocate on behalf of issues that are narrowly focused.  They
are only advocating for one or a few health issues (one piece of the
pie, so to speak), and may not be able to connect their issue to the
broader social picture.  That is why a health educator is often the
coordinator of education/services and serves as the resource person for
many projects.

        Patricia Houston

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#1474
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:50:12 EDT
From:    Fred Breukelman 
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Celebrities delivering the message

My quick response:  We health educators provide the research, the data, the
methodologies and the
behavior change education that have the greatest long-term impact.   People
like Jane Fonda, who are champions
and advocates of our causes, come along only rarely.   They give the issues
the public visibility that allows us to maximize our efforts and make greater
progress (if we latch on to the opportunity).

She championed this issue because she believes in it and was angered by
federal legislation.   We should be looking for and developing other champions
for other issues and the state and local level, as well as the federal level.
We have a vital role; but so do our champions/advocates.   [We just don't get
the spotlight, which is even more reason why we need them.]


Valerie Welsh  Wrote:
|
|         My two cents:  The major issue is:  what, if
| anything, does the
|         professionally trained health educator contribute
| to society by way of a
|         "unique value added" that others less or
| differently trained (i.e.,
|         celebrities, RNs, social workers, etc.) do not?
| How do we--and, esp.
|         members of the general public, know it?
|
| ______________________________ Reply Separator

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#1475
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:17:25 -0400
From:    Sara Corwin 
Subject: Added to HED List Serve

hi!
would it be possible to add me to your list serve?
thanks!

Sara J. Corwin, PhD, MPH
Assistant Professor, Health
Georgia Southern University
PO Box 8076
Statesboro, GA  30460
voice:  912.871.1922
fax:    912.681.0381
email:  scorwin@gsaix2.cc.gasou.edu

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#1476
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:05:24 -0700
From:    Donna Kuttner 
Subject: speaking of spokespersons for(?) health

Dear colleagues,
Last night my physician husband & I finally got around to watching the
taped version of last week's episode of one of the most watched TV
programs: ER. We were dismayed to see, at the end, the character, Dr. Mark
Green, lighting up and smoking with the newly hired desk clerk. YOU know
that these actors are not physicians. I know that. I am sure that MOST of
the public know as well. However, it is very visible product placement in
the hands of a health care role model on a very popular program. I would
like to contact NBC to complain. Do any of you have access to an address?
Interested in your responses:

Donna Holberg Kuttner, PhD, CHES
Health Education Specialist
Instructional Design and Materials
dkuttner@proaxis.com

Be sure to register to vote!!!
Then be sure to vote!!!

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#1477
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:15:06 -0400
From:    Tamara Lou Gallant 
Subject: Opinion Leaders: Jane Fonda/Miss America

Excellent point that Health Educators are frequently the catalysts behind
the promulgation of health promotion messages from public figures, etc.
It is good health education practice to identify the *Opinion Leaders* who
can influence the attitudes and consequently the behaviors in any
community or target group, to educate those opinion leaders and bring
them on board promulgating the messages!  Go Jane, Go Miss America!

That doesn't, however, dismiss the advantages of Health Education
specialists (Health Educators!) becoming WELL known by the media and
visible on rolodexes in every local, regional and national press room.
Preparation for TV performance isn't part of RN or MD training either.  If
we lack that skill, then deligate or get educated.  Perceived (or could
have been perceived :)) ugliness hasn't stopped some of our adversaries!

Go Health Educators!

Tamara Lou Gallant, MPH
University of Massachusetts Health Services
Amherst, MA 01002-4310
413-577-5181


On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Dawn Graff-Haight wrote:

> I agree with Margo's comment about the source of accurate, meaningful
> health information from folks who aren't necessarily professionally
> trained health educators.
>
> I'd like to point out that these people are getting their information from
> somewhere.  Could it be that their sources are HEALTH EDUCATORS?
>
> Let's continue to applaud and support those in the public eye who pick up
> our cause and assist us in getting the word out.  Jane Fonda reached more
> people on Rosie O'Donnell last Thursday than I will in a lifetime.  And
> even if I was on Rosie to do my song and dance for Health Education,
> because I'm NOT Jane Fonda, most folks would choose that time to get up
> and go to the bathroom.
>
> Dawn Graff-Haight
> Health Human Performance and Athletics
> Linfield College
>
> 1-503-434-2641
>

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#1478
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:25:11 -0500
From:    "Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D." 
Subject: speaking of spokespersons for(?) health

You can send an e-mail to:
er@nbc.com
>From: Donna Kuttner 
>Subject:      speaking of spokespersons for(?) health
>
>Dear colleagues,
>Last night my physician husband & I finally got around to watching the
>taped version of last week's episode of one of the most watched TV
>programs: ER. We were dismayed to see, at the end, the character, Dr. Mark
>Green, lighting up and smoking with the newly hired desk clerk. YOU know
>that these actors are not physicians. I know that. I am sure that MOST of
>the public know as well. However, it is very visible product placement in
>the hands of a health care role model on a very popular program. I would
>like to contact NBC to complain. Do any of you have access to an address?
>Interested in your responses:
>
>Donna Holberg Kuttner, PhD, CHES
>Health Education Specialist
>Instructional Design and Materials
>dkuttner@proaxis.com
>
>Be sure to register to vote!!!
>Then be sure to vote!!!
>
Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D.
Home Page:  http://131.230.221.136
HEDIR Home Page:  http://131.230.221.136/HEDIR/Menu.html
The International Electronic Journal of Health Education:
http://131.230.221.136/iejhe/

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#1479
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:35:41 -0400
From:    JDPierce 
Subject: Re: speaking of spokespersons for(?) health

I think I would like to complain also. Please share the adress when you find it.
___________________________________________________________________
___________
_
Subject: speaking of spokespersons for(?) health
From:    Donna Kuttner  at Internet
Date:    10/7/97  2:05 PM

Dear colleagues,
Last night my physician husband & I finally got around to watching the
taped version of last week's episode of one of the most watched TV
programs: ER. We were dismayed to see, at the end, the character, Dr. Mark
Green, lighting up and smoking with the newly hired desk clerk. YOU know
that these actors are not physicians. I know that. I am sure that MOST of
the public know as well. However, it is very visible product placement in
the hands of a health care role model on a very popular program. I would
like to contact NBC to complain. Do any of you have access to an address?
Interested in your responses:

Donna Holberg Kuttner, PhD, CHES
Health Education Specialist
Instructional Design and Materials
dkuttner@proaxis.com

Be sure to register to vote!!!
Then be sure to vote!!!

------------------------------
#1480
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:16:24 -0700
From:    Dawn Graff-Haight 
Subject: Re: Celebrities delivering the message

I wish I'd taped the Jane Fonda segment from Rosie O'Donnell so I could
replay her statements to be sure that what I'm saying is accurate.  I
know that she said that kids needed to learn more than abstinence, and
that the kids who were sexually active needed to have the knowledge and
skills necessary to prevent prgnancy and spread of STDs.  I also KNOW that
she said we needed COMPREHENSIVE sexuality education programs.  I
BELIEVE
she said that it needed to be delivered by competent health educators.
(Excuse me for not being certain.  I think that by the time she started
advocating Comprehensive sexuality education, I was jumping up and down
and cheering so loudly I didn't catch all the details of her message.)

Dawn Graff-Haight
Health Human Performance and Athletics
Linfield College

1-503-434-2641


On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, MAHONEY, COLLEEN wrote:

> This discussion regarding health messages and celebrities is
> interesting.  I have no trouble with celebrities assisting us in
> getting health messages out -- as long as the messages are based on
> accurate information I believe it can be very useful.  In fact, a
> strategy for health communication efforts is selecting a spokesperson
> to deliver the message(s).
>
> However, I also think we need to caution the idea/belief that it can
> be left up to the celebrities.  Many physicians and nurses also serve
> as spokespersons yet they do not have training in working with the
> media, marketing etc.
>
> Bottom line -- we need to be advocates for our profession and
> initiatives.  We need to make sure future health educators have
> training in social marketing and advocacy.  To this day many
> professionals (including those in the medical field) and most lay
> people have no idea what health education is/ who health educators
> are.  Yes, our goal is getting the word out in hope that communities
> and individuals will become healthier and it takes many types of
> people and professions to advance that goal.  But I would like to see
> us in the forefront of such efforts; if we are not we may just
> disappear.
>
> I'd be interested in knowing from those of you who saw Jane Fonda --
> did she mention health education/health educator?  If so great!  If
> not.....
> cmahoney@emerald.educ.kent.edu
> Colleen Mahoney
> Assistant Professor, Health Education
> Coordinator, Center for Health Promotion
> ACHVE Department, 316 White Hall
> Kent State University
> Kent OH 44242
>

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#1481
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:26:46 -0700
From:    "Susan L. Prows" 
Subject: SOPHE's Job Bank

SOPHE's 48th Annual Meeting, November 7-9, in Indianapolis will feature its
ever-popular JOB BANK as part of its meeting Resource Room.  Both prospective
employers and students/professionals looking for jobs can post their
information in the Job Bank Directory free-of-charge!  One does not need
to be attending the Indy meeting or be a SOPHE member to participate in the
exchange!  Send 3 copies of your resume or job announcement no later than
10/31 (via email, fax or snail mail) to the address below.  (No resumes or
other info will be returned after the meeting.)

Julie Timmins
Society for Public Health Education
1015 15th St., NW, Suite 410
Washington, DC   20005
phone:  202/408-9804
fax:  202/408-9815
Email:  sopheauld@aol.com

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#1482
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 21:10:17 -0700
From:    Donna Kuttner 
Subject: regarding the episode or ER

Some of you asked me to forward this to the group. The email address for
the program ER is as follows:
er@nbc.com
Someone posted the URL to me but I can't locate it at the moment. Will the
original poster re-post?
Thanks


Donna Holberg Kuttner, PhD, CHES
Health Education Specialist
Instructional Design and Materials
dkuttner@proaxis.com

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#1483
Date:    Tue, 7 Oct 1997 21:21:44 -0700
From:    Donna Kuttner 
Subject: 

Sharon Dwyer said
Donna,
I think that you can reply to NBC about the ER episode two ways.
If you go to the website  http://www.nbc.com/email.html   you can
click on a link to ER to send an e-mail directly to er@mail.com which
should also take you there directly.
Hope this helps, sharon

Margo suggested we contact our local networks who carry ER.
I'll let you know if I get any response.
Donna

Donna Holberg Kuttner, PhD, CHES
Health Education Specialist
Instructional Design and Materials
dkuttner@proaxis.com

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Then be sure to vote!!!

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#1484
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:41:36 -0400
From:    Kay Woodiel 
Subject: Re: speaking of spokespersons for(?) health

Is it just me or does anyone else think that this response to the episode
of ER make be a bit of an overreaction?  I , too , am dismayed, even
appalled, to see any health care professional smoking.  Truth be know, I
find it difficult to understand why anyone continues to smoke in light of
all the information available.(That however is an entirely different
issue).

I think that we are forgetting that the "character" that this actor is
playing is in a "dark hole" as the result of a great deal of personal
trauma.  I, for one, did not see a physician lighting up, but, rather a
human being displaying a nasty behavior as a result of tremendous stress.
Before we set out on a mission to become a "spokesperson" for health, we
might be reminded of one of our important ethical issues - "blaming the
victim."  Mark Green's character, as we all are, is multi-dimensional, and
is currently struggling with the balance of his wellness. Have we
forgotten that his physical dimension (behaviorally represented by the
cigarette) has been gravely affected by the emotional/psychological
dimension.  I do not want to preach, but am concerned that we miss
opportunities to demonstrate compassion which ultimately affects the
success of our mission.

Kay Woodiel, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Health & Physical Education
Millersville University
Pucillo 116
Millersville, PA 17551
(717) 872-3537
email kwoodiel@marauder.millersv.edu

On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Donna Kuttner wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
> Last night my physician husband & I finally got around to watching the
> taped version of last week's episode of one of the most watched TV
> programs: ER. We were dismayed to see, at the end, the character, Dr. Mark
> Green, lighting up and smoking with the newly hired desk clerk. YOU know
> that these actors are not physicians. I know that. I am sure that MOST of
> the public know as well. However, it is very visible product placement in
> the hands of a health care role model on a very popular program. I would
> like to contact NBC to complain. Do any of you have access to an address?
> Interested in your responses:
>
> Donna Holberg Kuttner, PhD, CHES
> Health Education Specialist
> Instructional Design and Materials
> dkuttner@proaxis.com
>
> Be sure to register to vote!!!
> Then be sure to vote!!!
>

------------------------------
#1485
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:07:34 -0400
From:    JDPierce 
Subject: Re[2]: speaking of spokespersons for(?) health

I disagree..I see the tobacco companies finding a sneaky way in to reinforce
lighting up as a way to "enjoy something, relax"..visual, reinforcement..very
effective..especially in light of the major association of his character was
quite positive until recently
Judith Dwyer Pierce, EdD, CHES
___________________________________________________________________
___________
_
Subject: Re: speaking of spokespersons for(?) health
From:    Kay Woodiel  at Internet
Date:    10/8/97  8:41 AM

Is it just me or does anyone else think that this response to the episode
of ER make be a bit of an overreaction?  I , too , am dismayed, even
appalled, to see any health care professional smoking.  Truth be know, I
find it difficult to understand why anyone continues to smoke in light of
all the information available.(That however is an entirely different
issue).

I think that we are forgetting that the "character" that this actor is
playing is in a "dark hole" as the result of a great deal of personal
trauma.  I, for one, did not see a physician lighting up, but, rather a
human being displaying a nasty behavior as a result of tremendous stress.
Before we set out on a mission to become a "spokesperson" for health, we
might be reminded of one of our important ethical issues - "blaming the
victim."  Mark Green's character, as we all are, is multi-dimensional, and
is currently struggling with the balance of his wellness. Have we
forgotten that his physical dimension (behaviorally represented by the
cigarette) has been gravely affected by the emotional/psychological
dimension.  I do not want to preach, but am concerned that we miss
opportunities to demonstrate compassion which ultimately affects the
success of our mission.

Kay Woodiel, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Health & Physical Education
Millersville University
Pucillo 116
Millersville, PA 17551
(717) 872-3537
email kwoodiel@marauder.millersv.edu

On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Donna Kuttner wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
> Last night my physician husband & I finally got around to watching the
> taped version of last week's episode of one of the most watched TV
> programs: ER. We were dismayed to see, at the end, the character, Dr. Mark
> Green, lighting up and smoking with the newly hired desk clerk. YOU know
> that these actors are not physicians. I know that. I am sure that MOST of
> the public know as well. However, it is very visible product placement in
> the hands of a health care role model on a very popular program. I would
> like to contact NBC to complain. Do any of you have access to an address?
> Interested in your responses:
>
> Donna Holberg Kuttner, PhD, CHES
> Health Education Specialist
> Instructional Design and Materials
> dkuttner@proaxis.com
>
> Be sure to register to vote!!!
> Then be sure to vote!!!
>

------------------------------
#1486
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:20:40 CDT
From:    Jennifer Kramer 
Subject: ER & SMOKING

Personally, I'd like to see no television/movie characters lighting up, but I
am probably dreaming.

However, it seems to me that ER has brought out some interesting life lessons
in many of their episodes, and PERHAPS Dr. Green's smoking will turn into an
educational tool about quitting.  Granted, I am stretching here into the
unknown minds of the writers, but it wouldn't surprise me if they somehow used
the smoking thing for good in the end--maybe viewers will even emulate
quitting smoking.

In light of that, perhaps messages to ER could include such a suggestion
because we can't undo the smoking already seen.

Jenny Kramer, M.S.
Community Health Specialist
Hennepin County Community Health Department
525 Portland Ave. S.  MC--963
Minneapolis, MN  55415-1569

jennifer.kramer@co.hennepin.mn.us

------------------------------
#1487
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:14:52 -0700
From:    Sandra Smith 
Subject: Re: Smoking on ER--compassion or over reaction

I disagree with Kay. Compassion is necessary and appropriate as you
describe. However, I believe health professionals are held to a higher
standard due to their influence. The message communicated when physicians
smoke is that it must be OK afterall. When the physician hero in a popular
TV program smokes that message is magnified and every real-life health
professionals ability to influence healthy behavior is reduced.

Sandra Smith
Editor& Publisher, Beginnings A Practical Guide Through Your Pregnancy
Practice Development Inc
2821 2nd Ave #1601
Seattle WA 98121
206-441-7046
sandras@u.washington.edu

------------------------------

#1488
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:35:39 -0400
From:    "Michael J. Ludwig" 
Subject: Re: speaking of spokespersons for(?) health

JDPierce wrote:

> I disagree..I see the tobacco companies finding a sneaky way in to
> reinforce
> lighting up as a way to "enjoy something, relax"..visual,
> reinforcement..very
> effective..especially in light of the major association of his character
> was
> quite positive until recently

I too disagree--with the above disagreement.  While I am the first one to
point
out that the tobacco companies' CEOs are little more than "respectable"
drug dealers
in dark suits, I hesitate to find conspiracy behind every instance of
tobacco use
in the media.

Does one support artistic freedom even if it putatively supports a
behavior one thinks is "unhealthy"?  Is it possible to expunge the media of
all
references to "negative behavior"?

I believe Dr. Woodiel raises a valid point.  Rather
than censor NBC and/or the writers, might we more profitably promote
dialogue
with our students and clients around this issue?  The ability of youth to
critically
engage the media will not be promoted by pious condemnations from health
professionals.
In fact, there is some suggestion that all the attention tobacco has drawn
of late, re:
the proposed settlement, has been helpful in generating youth interest in
this
dastardly product--sort of a "forbidden fruit" attractiveness.

The character of Mark Green is indeed in a "dark hole."  And we would be
remiss
NOT to admit that tobacco does enable one to "relax and enjoy," albeit, at
a high
cost.  Let's get all the information into the light of day--which does not
in any way
excuse tobacco companies for the marketing, particularly to youth, of a
deadly
product.  I'm all for enforcing age limits on tobacco sales and most other
provisions
of the as yet approved "tobacco deal," but hesitate to see conspiracy and
do not
believe that behavioral purity (no tobacco use portrayed in the media) can
or
should be a goal of health education.
--
Michael J. Ludwig   
803.323.4687 (office)  803.366.1545 (home)
803.323.2124 (FAX)  HPE Dept.
111 Peabody Building
Winthrop University, Rock Hill, SC 29733
"Expect nothing. Live frugally / On surprise."
                          --Alice Walker

------------------------------
#1489
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:45:18 -0400
From:    SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA AHEC 
Subject: ER Smoking

I agree with Kay Woodiel re: the overreaction to the character of Mark Green
smoking on the TV show, "ER".  If you recall in some of the previous
episodes, they portrayed him as a runner.  I don't remember seeing him smoke
in previous episodes, although some of the other characters have.  My take
on this scene is that they're simply portraying him as acting out of
character, in several ways, in response to his recent trauma.  I would
imagine most people would get that - it's hardly subtle.  Call me naive, but
I would credit the writers, directors, actors, and producers with the idea
for the smoking scene, more so than the tobacco companies.  The particular
tobacco product (I don't recall if the name brand was shown) chosen may
indeed reflect $$ influence.  I don't mean to imply that tobacco companies
do not have powerful influences in many facets of American life, but we all
know that some of the brightest and most talented people in Hollywood are
not exactly paragons of virtue.  If we can frame tobacco use in terms of
moral behavior...that's another day, another discussion.

------------------------------
#1490
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:42:57 -0500
From:    David Remmert 
Subject: ER

Hey everyone:

I'm perplexed.  I realize this show is very popular, and provides
some sort of a vehicle for the promotion of smoking behavior, but
to act as if it is something that we don't see everywhere we
look in society is a mistake.  Let's be honest, physicians do
smoke - despite their knowledge.  At one time, and I may be
wrong, but I think physicians smoked at a rate greater than
the general society.  For that matter, nurses have been known
for smoking at greater rates than general society.  This may not
be true any longer, but the point is there is so much promotion
of this behavior throughout society as it is, that seeing one
tv show with one character smoking is not doing any more harm
than what is already going on in society.

Thanks,

David M.Remmert, M.P.H., C.H.E.S.

--
dremmert@prairienet.org

------------------------------
#1491
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:55:34 -0400
From:    Jennifer Karpinsky 
Subject: educator responsibility

I have a question for those of you involved in higher education.  Hoepfully
you can give me some input if you have been in a similar situation.

I am teaching a graduate level stress management workshop.  I have a
foreign student in my class.  After the second class she waited after class
to speak with me and she said that she didn't understand.  She said the
words were too hard for her and she stopped taking notes.  What should she
do?

I told her she should read the chapters that are somewhat relevant to the
topics prior to class and also to get with other classmates to go over her
notes.  I explained that I don't lend my overhead lectures out, but that
the notes are very important as not all are in our textbook.

Now having read her first assignment, it is clear that her english skills
are very rough.  The university has tested our foreign applicants to ensure
that they have a good grasp of english.  My question to you, is what is my
role as an educator?  She needs the class for her program, but it appears
that she is in over her head.

Advice?

------------------------------
#1492
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:02:51 -0400
From:    "Mary E. Arnold" 
Subject: ER/smoking comment

At the supreme risk of becoming "flame" fodder..... as an avid viewer of the
television program ER, I too saw the episode and while it bothered me to see
Dr. Green smoking, I was familiar enough with the story line to understand
why he was suddenly smoking.  Toward the end of last season he was brutally
assaulted in a hospital bathroom by an unknown assailant after a gang member
died following treatment in the ER.  He has previously been a mild mannered,
soft spoken, warm hearted, valiant individual.  With the stress from a
divorce, separation from a daughter,  a failed romance, the assault, the work
in the ER, etc. he has become an acid tongued, gun toting, angst filled young
man...... the smoking is consistant with the physical neglect and decline in
his emotional status that I think NBC wants to depict.

It's a wonderful example of what we as health educators teach about the
ravages of a stress filled life.  His character is one of the most popular in
the ensemble cast, and I think NBC is going to focus on his supreme state of
depression and frustration with his inability to deal with the stress of the
past year ( I wonder what HIS score is on the Holmes Social Readjustment
Scale!!!!!!  I suspect somewhere in the 500's ) leading to a major illness or
incident as a result.  THAT'S when they can pull a rabbit out of their hat
and focus on not just the smoking but the whole need to deal with the
stresses in our life appropriately so that we don't turn to poor coping
mechanisms and self-destructive behaviors.

Am I too far off base here?

Mary Arnold
CburgMom@aol.com

------------------------------
#1493
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:13:21 +0900
From:    Lisa Reisberg 
Subject: Re: ER

Last week I had the pleasure of meeting with Neil Baer, writer/producer for
ER, and we discussed the upcoming "smoking" theme.  I don't want to ruin it
for anyone, but the storyline will involve having Dr Green start smoking as
a way to relieve stress (wrong reason, but there is never a right reason
anyway).  He will become addicted and eventually enter a smoking cessation
program.  The general theme that Neil is presenting is thus:  Smoking is
never a good solution to life's problems, it's very easy to become addicted
to smoking, and it's very difficult to quit.  Hope this helps clarifies the
concerns expressed.  Lisa

===========================================
Lisa Reisberg, Director
Division of Public Education
American Academy of Pediatrics
141 Northwest Pt Blvd
Elk Grove Village, IL   60007

Phone:   847/981-7873
FAX:        847/228-7320


"Stand up for what is right, even if you're standing alone."

------------------------------
#1494
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:20:56 -0400
From:    Elaine Lawson 
Subject: Here, here

Mary is exactly correct.  E.R. is not promoting smoking, but rather placing
smoking in a category of socially unacceptable behavior.  We don't write to
T.V. stations when we see an actor portraying a professional who is
committing a crime in order to tell a story.  I think this argument might
have merit if the "old" Mark were to smoke and the other E.R. characters
found it acceptable and normal; but the writers are showing the sharp
contrast of the change in the character.

I see Mark transforming into a villain as a result of the recent tragic
episodes in his life.  Think of the cigarettes as a "black hat."

Elaine Lawson, M.S.
Institute of Medicine

------------------------------
#1495
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:45:27 -0500
From:    Sara Long Anderson 
Subject: Re: Here, here

I agree.  Even though I am an ER junky, I've learned over the years that
the writers (or whoever) usually have characters do something for a reason
that we (the audience) find out about over the course of the TV viewing
season.  I think it's called character development.

----------
> From: Elaine Lawson 
> To: HEDIR-L@SIU.EDU
> Subject: Here, here
> Date: Wednesday, October 08, 1997 9:20 AM
>
> Mary is exactly correct.  E.R. is not promoting smoking, but rather
placing
> smoking in a category of socially unacceptable behavior.  We don't write
to
> T.V. stations when we see an actor portraying a professional who is
> committing a crime in order to tell a story.  I think this argument might
> have merit if the "old" Mark were to smoke and the other E.R. characters
> found it acceptable and normal; but the writers are showing the sharp
> contrast of the change in the character.
>
> I see Mark transforming into a villain as a result of the recent tragic
> episodes in his life.  Think of the cigarettes as a "black hat."
>
> Elaine Lawson, M.S.
> Institute of Medicine

------------------------------

#1496
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:55:02 EST
From:    Srijana Bajracharya 
Subject: "comment" closure

Now that the discussion has taken different turn, I want to put my
"comment"  to rest by saying,

I did not mean to undermine the value of celebrities or any
spokesperson who are speaking on behalf of us as long as they are
accurate and they mention us "Health Educators."  Jane Fonda's
interview was good.  However, I did not see her mentioning health
educators or the health education profession at that time.   I may
have missed  it if she did.   I agree that we should use anybody who can be
our advocate and the message does not have to come from health educators only.

I felt that Jane Fonda took the words out of my mouth giving the
emphasis on delayed sexual involvement.  I was raised in the culture
where I did not have to deal with many things that the teens here
have to deal with.  I did not have to prove my sexuality or popularity,
since nobody had to.  Individuals like Jane Fonda endorsing such issues
is extemely important to me because I know I may not be able sell
this idea  easily.

After switching my career from fisheries biologist to health
educator, I guess I want to see that I made a right choice.  I am
simply talking about the identity of our profession.  Are we
representing our profession well?  Are we given the credit we
deserve?  Are we the professionals connected with prevention
activities?  If you look at my original comment, I had other examples
than just the celebrities.

All I wanted to say was the health educators should be up front more
when the discussion is about the disease prevention/health promotion.

Thank you all.
                          Srijana


Srijana M. Bajracharya, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
HPER Division
University of Maine at Presque Isle
Presque Isle, ME 04769

Bajra@polaris.umpi.maine.edu    OR  Srijana@Maine.Maine.Edu

------------------------------
#1497
Date:    Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:06:52 -0700
From:    Stephanie Wolf 
Subject: Re: ER -Reply

Not to say whether ER Dr. Green's character smoking was right or wrong (even
though smoking is, of course, well, don't get me started), but here are a few
things to consider.  If, indeed, the show is supposed to be "realistic" and the
public forms "bonds" with the characters, theoretically, you'd want their
(health and other) behaviors to mirror what the person would do if he/she were
real.  Need I remind anyone else who works in the medicine end of health ed
(like me) that doctors eat oreos for lunch, some greater than the general
population number of nurses smoke and are obese, smoking areas at hospitals have
just as many employees hanging and puffing as patients, the cafeterias serve
mainly high-fat food (healthy food is "too expensive and no one eats it," I was
told), everyone is "too busy" to exercise away stress, fat or other risk
factors, anetshesiologists have the highest rate of drug addictions of all docs,
the divorce rate of doctors is higher than the general population, usually only
one 3-hour lecture is given on nutrition in med school, and on and on.  Just
because someone is "a doctor" doesn't mean they aren't people first, along with
nasty health behaviors like everyone else.  It doesn't give them any excuse, but
it also doesn't mean that a portrayal of a doctor TV character in a "realistic
situaltion" is to be criticized either.

I, of course, am perfect.  Well, ok, sometimes I don't drink enough water.  Sue
me.

Stephanie L. Wolf, MPH
Rsearch Coordinator
Section of Hepatology
Oregon Health Sciences University
Portland, OR

------------------------------
#1498
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:17:26 -0400
From:    JDPierce 
Subject: Re[2]: ER

You are hopefully correct in seeing this as ultimately worthy.  I've been a bit
jaded about these matters since the research on the use of Joe Camel in the
Weekly Reader was published and the possible link to his frequenting the pages
with the fact that a major tobacco company owned the company that owned the
company.
Thanks
___________________________________________________________________
___________
_
Subject: Re: ER
From:    Lisa Reisberg  at Internet
Date:    10/8/97  9:13 AM

Last week I had the pleasure of meeting with Neil Baer, writer/producer for
ER, and we discussed the upcoming "smoking" theme.  I don't want to ruin it
for anyone, but the storyline will involve having Dr Green start smoking as
a way to relieve stress (wrong reason, but there is never a right reason
anyway).  He will become addicted and eventually enter a smoking cessation
program.  The general theme that Neil is presenting is thus:  Smoking is
never a good solution to life's problems, it's very easy to become addicted
to smoking, and it's very difficult to quit.  Hope this helps clarifies the
concerns expressed.  Lisa

===========================================
Lisa Reisberg, Director
Division of Public Education
American Academy of Pediatrics
141 Northwest Pt Blvd
Elk Grove Village, IL   60007

Phone:   847/981-7873
FAX:        847/228-7320


"Stand up for what is right, even if you're standing alone."

------------------------------
#1499
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:25:07 +0900
From:    Lisa Reisberg 
Subject: Smoking Cessation Program for Teens

Does anyone have information on an ongoing smoking cessation program for
high school students (ie, a program where teens meet weekly or monthly on
an ongoing basis)?  Thank you very much.  Lisa

===========================================
Lisa Reisberg, Director
Division of Public Education
American Academy of Pediatrics
141 Northwest Pt Blvd
Elk Grove Village, IL   60007

Phone:   847/981-7873
FAX:        847/228-7320


"Stand up for what is right, even if you're standing alone."

------------------------------
#1500
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:31:34 -0400
From:    Kay Woodiel 
Subject: Re: ER

Bravo Lisa, thanks for the clarification.  They have certainly dealt with
many sensitive health issues in the past, presenting both sides - and we
can expect no less of them now.

Kay Woodiel, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Health & Physical Education
Millersville University
Pucillo 116
Millersville, PA 17551
(717) 872-3537
email kwoodiel@marauder.millersv.edu

On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Lisa Reisberg wrote:

> Last week I had the pleasure of meeting with Neil Baer, writer/producer for
> ER, and we discussed the upcoming "smoking" theme.  I don't want to ruin it
> for anyone, but the storyline will involve having Dr Green start smoking as
> a way to relieve stress (wrong reason, but there is never a right reason
> anyway).  He will become addicted and eventually enter a smoking cessation
> program.  The general theme that Neil is presenting is thus:  Smoking is
> never a good solution to life's problems, it's very easy to become addicted
> to smoking, and it's very difficult to quit.  Hope this helps clarifies the
> concerns expressed.  Lisa
>
> ===========================================
> Lisa Reisberg, Director
> Division of Public Education
> American Academy of Pediatrics
> 141 Northwest Pt Blvd
> Elk Grove Village, IL   60007
>
> Phone:   847/981-7873
> FAX:        847/228-7320
>
>
> "Stand up for what is right, even if you're standing alone."
>

------------------------------
#1501
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:34:56 +0900
From:    Lisa Reisberg 
Subject: ER-related

In view of the recent discussion about ER and the influence of the media, I
thought I'd post (re-post?) the following information:

ANNOUNCING:

NATIONAL MEDIA EDUCATION CONFERENCE
(Formerly the National Media Literacy Conference)
June 28-July 1, 1998
Colorado Springs, Colorado

"A Paradigm for Public Health"

The health and well-being of our children is dramatically influenced by
images and messages conveyed by the media. Professionals and parents have
an enormous stake in ensuring that the media's influence on our nation's
youth be positive. This can be accomplished through media education, which
includes development of critical thinking and viewing skills, and offering
creative alternatives to media consumption. If our nation is to reach its
goal of having a healthier, more productive society in the next millennium,
we must move media education into schools, homes and communities.

SPECIAL INTEREST TRACKS

1. Prevention and Public Health:  Tobacco, Alcohol, Illicit Drugs;
Violence; Sexual Behavior; Nutritional Issues; Self-concept and Identity;
and Safety

2. Classroom and Non-school Learning: New Technologies, Methods and Activities

3. Families:  Strategies for Parents and Children

4. News, Media and Democracy:  Citizenship Skills for an Information Age

5. Creative Community:  The Role of Writers, Producers, Directors and
Executives in Media Industries

6. Diversity:  Representation of Gender, Racism, Sexism, Ageism in the Media

7. Neighborhoods:  The Role of Religious and Community Leaders

WHO SHOULD ATTEND

Members of the public health, medical, and prevention communities
Classroom teachers K-12 and other educators
Parent and child media advocates
Religious and community leaders
Academic researchers and leaders
Journalists and media professionals

Organized and Hosted by the PARTNERSHIP FOR MEDIA EDUCATION, a
collaboration of:

American Academy of Pediatrics
Center for Media Literacy
Media Literacy Project at Clark University
Center for Substance Abuse Prevention/SAMHSA

FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT ATTENDING OR PRESENTING,
CONTACT:

Conference Office
2121 S. Oneida Street, Suite 325
Denver, CO 80224-2552
Ph: 303 756-8380  Fax: 303 759-8861
E-mail: NMEC98@aol.com
Web Site: www.ConferenceOffice.com/NMEC

MARK YOUR CALENDAR AND PLAN TO ATTEND!


===========================================
Lisa Reisberg, Director
Division of Public Education
American Academy of Pediatrics
141 Northwest Pt Blvd
Elk Grove Village, IL   60007

Phone:   847/981-7873
FAX:        847/228-7320


"Stand up for what is right, even if you're standing alone."

------------------------------
#1502
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:26:07 -0600
From:    Dr Dale Hardt 
Subject: ER?

It seems to me that we have avoided a most necessary question. Is it our
responsibility to help our students make informed decisions regarding
smoking behaviors OR are they only 'informed' if they select the behavior we
identify as 'THE' appropriate behavior. It appears logical that decision
making should be based on knowledge and observation of both good and bad.

Just a few thoughts...

------------------------------
#1503
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:34:45 -0400
From:    "Mary E. Arnold" 
Subject: Jane Fonda and the role model website

Jane Fonda along with Bill Cosby, Joanne Woodward, Robin Williams, and others
have endorsed a website to promote ROLE MODELS for youths and adults to help
in the process of patterning their lives.  There is a mission statement for
the site that I think is impressive.

The URL is :    http://www.newsltr.com/rolemodel/


Mary Arnold
CburgMom@aol.com

------------------------------
#1504
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:30:56 -0500
From:    speterso@NOTES.MDACC.TMC.EDU
Subject: ER

I forwarded some of the comments to my colleagues regarding Dr. Mark
Green's new habit on "ER", and wanted to share the response that I
received:


Whatever the rationale that was presented for having Dr. Green begin
smoking, it is both inaccurate and offensive.    First of all, over 90% of
smoking initiation begins in the teenage years.  Almost no adults over the
age of 19 or 20 begin to smoke.   Therefore, having Dr. Green adopt smoking
as a means of dealing with overwhelming stress is an inaccurate depiction
of adult coping behaviors.

Secondly, this delivers an unacceptable message regarding physician role
modeling and personal behavior.   While there are impaired physicians, most
of the behaviors falling into this category involve some sort of licit or
illicit substance abuse (excluding tobacco).  There is a national effort
underway to disseminate the Agency For Health Care Policy and Research
Smoking Cessation Clinical Practice Guideline.  These efforts by the AHCPR
are parallel by others from the National Cancer Institute and various
medical and other health care practitioner professional societies.    The
gist of all of these efforts is to inculcate a standard of practice in
which  health care professionals deliver advice to quit on every visit in
which a patient who smokes is seen.   There is no reason that ER physicians
are exempt from these guidelines, and their own personal behavior as role
models is critically important.   National data show that physicians as a
professional group have one of the lowest smoking prevelance rates, perhaps
10% or less, and medical students smoke at a rate of only 1 or 2 percent.

Finally, lest anyone be naive, the tobacco industry is most eager to
support the depiction of popular television and movie figures as smokers,
and many payments for same have been reported in the press.

For all of these reasons and more, perhaps Lisa Reisberg could go back to
the Producers/Writers/Directors of ER and have them revise the planned
story line.  Make Dr. Green come to his senses rapidly and without enduring
addiction.  Let him see a lung cancer patient , or an emphysema patient or
someone with serious cardiovascular disease dying from his/her disease, and
have Dr. Green do some professional role modeling to the vast ER audience.
This is a plea to abort this charade.  We'd rather see Dr. Green in
psychotherapy any day.

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#1505
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:44:40 -0400
From:    Jack Osman 
Subject: Re: ER?

At 12:26 PM 10/8/97 -0600, Dr Dale Hardt wrote:
>It seems to me that we have avoided a most necessary question. Is it our
>responsibility to help our students make informed decisions regarding
>smoking behaviors OR are they only 'informed' if they select the behavior we
>identify as 'THE' appropriate behavior. It appears logical that decision
>making should be based on knowledge and observation of both good and bad.
>
>Just a few thoughts...
>

Good point, Doc.  Still ... after all these years ... one of my favorite
health education articles was done by Robert Russell, J of School Health,
May, 1963 (that's right 1963!) "Are Health Educators 'Warriors Against
Pleasure'?"  Check it out -- 34 years later and I believe he's right-on.

Jack D. Osman
Towson University

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#1506
Date:    Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:56:19 -0400
From:    Ping Hu 
Subject: Re: educator responsibility

Jennifer,

I'd like to share my experience of being a foreign student. I came to the
US and started my MS program in Health Education at Western Illinois
University in 1992. I still remember what my very first semester was like -
a nightmare! I could barely understand what the instructor was talking
about in the classroom even though my English level was far beyond the
admission requirement. But that was based on written tests. For a new
foreign student, listening comprehension is the biggest barrier.
Fortunately, my instructors MADE copies of their lecture notes for me...and
they helped me overcome my language barrier...now I am teaching at the
university! I have greatly appreciated those who helped me during my first
few semesters. I would say without their help (giving me lecture notes and
encouragements, spending extra time explaining things to me, etc.), I
wouldn't have been in my current position. To me, what an educator does
impacts the life of the learner. I wish you could re-consider your "don't
lend my overhead lectures out" policy and help your foreign student!

Of course, the student should read the chapter and materials related to the
topic before and after the class, copy notes from classmates, tape record
the lecture, ask questions, and spend all of his/her time studying (that's
what I did!) ... I remember, a two-page article summary and reaction paper
would take me a whole week to write...but I survived, succeeded, and became
a health educator. I want to take this opportunity to thank all who have
helped me. Thank you all...


At 09:55 AM 10/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I have a question for those of you involved in higher education.  Hoepfully
>you can give me some input if you have been in a similar situation.
>
>I am teaching a graduate level stress management workshop.  I have a
>foreign student in my class.  After the second class she waited after class
>to speak with me and she said that she didn't understand.  She said the
>words were too hard for her and she stopped taking notes.  What should she
>do?
>
>I told her she should read the chapters that are somewhat relevant to the
>topics prior to class and also to get with other classmates to go over her
>notes.  I explained that I don't lend my overhead lectures out, but that
>the notes are very important as not all are in our textbook.
>
>Now having read her first assignment, it is clear