#1428 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 08:59:32 -0700 From: Renee DrellishakSubject: Mint Snuff I recently saw an ad on television for a product called Mint Snuff. It's a tobacco-free, nicotine-free substitute for spit tobacco. Ingredients listed are maltitol syrup, mint, natural flavors, tocopherols (vitamin E) and potassium sorbate. I checked out their web page (www.1800eatmint.com), called for more information, spent a *long* time on the phone with Ken Manske, director of the Tobacco Intervention Network which is helping to promote this product, and now have a box full of samples and brochures on my desk. While we currently have no tobacco cessation program, I have received requests for both smoking and chewing cessation programs and am wondering how and whether to work this product in. Has anyone else used this product for tobacco cessation programming and what sort of success did you have? Renee Drellishak, MPH Manager of Health Promotion and Development Hall Health Primary Care Center University of Washington (206) 616-8476 reneedre@u.washington.edu ------------------------------ #1429 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:09:56 -0500 From: cass VanDerMeer Subject: training Hello I was forewarded your message by one of my accounts. I have a small business that works with all divisions of social work / hospital on family issues and issues related to staff and program development. We also do Board development and trouble shooting in agencies. We have a focus on the family(myself and associates former domestic violence, sexual assault shelter program experience)but we have gone as diverse as harassment in the workplace to unions and stress management in social work and hospital settings for staff. We would be interested to know what it is that you want and we can send you a proposal. I will send a capabilities statement by snail mail if you would be so kind as to send off your address. Unfortunately no one will be in the office untill next monday but we will respond then. POSSIBILITIES Cass VanDerMeer 408 W. Perry DuQuoin, Il. 62832 Tel/fax 618 542 8216 ------------------------------ #1430 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:55:44 -0500 From: "Andrea Gielen (by way of \"Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D.\" )" Subject: Re: hedir home page Andrea was having difficulty sending this via hedir. Dear Colleagues: If you are a member of the Public Health Education and Health Promotion Section of APHA (and if not, consider joining!) --- we have a social hour every year at the APHA meeting. This event is fully supported by outside donations every year and costs about $10,000. We need your help this year. Do you know any potential sponsors who could contribute? They would be appropriately recognized with signs and they could have a small display at the social if they have one. Let me know if you have someone we should contact. Could you personally contribute? Any amount would be gratefully appreciated. Send checks to Michele Horton, APHA Headquarters, 1015 Fifteenth St. NW, Washington D.C. 20005. Make sure to make a note that contributions are for the PHEHP Social and send a copy to Dr. Audrey Gotsch at University of Medicien and Dentistry of New Jersey, Robert Wood Johnson Medical School 681 Frelinghuysen Rd. PO Box 1179 Piscataway, NJ 08855-1179. Dr. Gotsch is the chair of our 75th Anniversary Committee, which is organizing the special social hour being held this year. All contributions are tax dedctible. Thank you very much and we hope to see you in Indiana. Andrea Gielen Chair, PHEHP ------------------------------ #1431 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:28:21 -0500 From: "David C. Wiley 245-2946" Subject: Jane Fonda Dear Colleagues, I was just curious, but did any of you this morning see Jane Fonda on Good Morning America touting the virtues of "comprehensive sexuality programs" in school settings? She was talking about the abstinence-only funds that have been made available and how the majority of American don't want ab-only programs, etc.. I must say that she was VERY well-informed. Did you get that impression?? Did I actually see this or am I hallucinating again?? Thanks, DCW ------------------------------ #1432 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:51:35 -0700 From: Renee Drellishak Subject: More mint snuff stuff Pat Lindsay had some good questions that she said I could share, along with the answers according to the "literature" provided by the Tobacco Intervention Network (which is, by the way, operating on a grant from the Oregon Mint Snuff company, but whether or not tis is their sole source of funding, I don't know. Renee Drellishak, MPH Manager of Health Promotion and Development Hall Health Primary Care Center University of Washington (206) 616-8476 reneedre@u.washington.edu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:12:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Renee Drellishak To: Pat Lindsay Subject: Re: Mint Snuff Hi Pat, hey, I'll take questions! The literature provided with the samples says "Clinical reports to date have reported no staining of teeth, no dental recession and no irritation to the gum tissues even if All Mint Chew is held against the tissue for prolongued periods of time." The maltitol syrup provides 1 calorie of sweetener and according to the literature does not promote tooth decay. It's food grade mint--but I don't know what that might mean in terms of sand or grit. As far as it being an entry substance, according to both the literature and to the gentleman I spoke with, "All Mint Chew and All Mint Pouches" are usually found in the tobacco sections at grocery and convenience stores where people who *already* use tobacco will most likely find the safe alternative. It is *not* marketed in the candy section as a temptations for young adults to use and then "graduate" to tobacco." The literature also talks about how it can be used when quitting cold turkey; in conjunction with the patch; or to alternate with or dilute regular chewing tobacco. Renee Drellishak, MPH Manager of Health Promotion and Development Hall Health Primary Care Center University of Washington (206) 616-8476 reneedre@u.washington.edu On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Pat Lindsay wrote: > Renee - I have not recommended use nor heard about this product, but would > have a question/concern or two about it. I would assume it presents a > similar risk for tooth decay/gum recession because (assuming it's used the > same way as snuff) it's likely to be held in one spot in the mouth for > extended periods of time. I don't know if it presents risks for > leukoplakia and/or oral cancers because I don't know the risks of the > ingredients you listed. Was sugar in any form listed as an ingredient? > Also, what about sand/grit, etc., since those are known problems in regular > snuff and contribute significantly to tooth enamel destruction? > For a heavily snuff-addicted person, this product might provide a > reasonable temporary substitute for real snuff while the individual's body > adapts to loss of nicotine. I would worry, though, that since it's use > mimics regular snuff use so closely, that relapse might be a major problem. > I don't think it's a great improvement as far as dental health is > concerned. > For non-snuff users, I wonder if this would be an appealing entry > substance for younger users - they could look like the older kids but > perhaps buy this stuff legally until they're old enough to buy the real > stuff without a hassle. So, might we not be building a future consumer > group for the tobacco industry? > Sorry, I don't have any answers - just more questions! I'll be > interested to hear what other folks say - will you summarize for the list? > Thanks, Pat > > Pat Lindsay, MPH > Health Education Program > Cowell Student Health Center > UC Davis > Davis, CA 95616-8711 > (916) 752-4142 voice > (916) 752-2306 fax > pdlindsay@ucdavis.edu > > > ------------------------------ #1433 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 08:33:22 -0500 From: Nicole Aydt Klein Subject: Mint snuff--tooth decay Interesting information about the mint snuff. Some information on the sweetener it uses: Maltitol is a sugar alcohol. One of the benefits of a sugar alcohol over other carbs is that mouth bacteria metabolize it less rapidly so sugar alcohols are less likely to contribute to dental decay. That's why it can be said that some some sweet products don't cause tooth decay. (Xylitol--another alcohol sugar has been found to inhibit production of acids in the mouth---hence some chewing gum claims to prevent tooth decay) However, one of the side effects is diarrhea. Pick yer poison... ____________________________________________ ____________________________________________ Nicole Aydt Klein, Ph.D. CHES Department of Health, Recreation and Physical Education Vadalabene Center Box 1126 Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville Edwardsville, IL 62026-1126 e-mail: nklein@siue.edu phone: 618/692-2285 fax: 618/692-3369 ------------------------------ #1434 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:15:56 -0500 From: "Mark A. Temple" Subject: Information Technology INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY Wednesday, October 1, 1997 Publisher Offers Personal Web Pages for Scholars Using Its On-Line Journals By LISA GUERNSEY With more academic journals popping up on the World-Wide Web every month, some scholars are beginning to use the Internet as if it were a photocopier or reading room. But the Wiley & Sons publishing house, which opened its on-line service today, wants professors to see it also as their personal workspace. For the next three months, anyone on the Web can test that approach by tapping into the 50 journals that are available so far on Wiley InterScience. From that page, company officials invite users to try out what they tout as an innovation in scholarly publishing: "Personal Home Pages." A page is generated for each customer who requests one, and by clicking on buttons and links within the pages, users build personal on-line spaces. The pages are miniature Web sites that can be altered and customized by an Internet user without any knowledge of H.T.M.L., the hypertext mark-up language for designing Web pages. They are stored in the Wiley computer system so that they can be retrieved, with passwords, again and again. Simply put, the pages are high-tech "bookmark" lists, where people can save links to on-line articles. The concept is not new -- Web sites such as Excite and BioMedNet have similar options for their readers -- but this is the first time a journal publisher has attempted it. Wiley's personal home pages also offer extras, such as areas where annotations can be entered and keywords can be saved for later searching. A professor of chemistry, for example, might choose to save a link to an article in The Electronic Journal of Theoretical Chemistry, then add notes about how the article relates to her research. She could also run a search using the words "peptide" and "structure," save the results, and save the search itself so that she can return a month later to find new articles that contain those keywords. "This is everything about making research better, richer, more efficient, more productive," said Eric A. Swanson, Wiley's senior vice-president and general manager of scientific, technical, and medical publications, at the press conference at which the service was announced. Wiley officials pledge that they will not look at any personal pages without the permission of the people who customized them. By January, Wiley InterScience will be open only to those who have access to libraries that have subscribed. The subscription price, which officials have not disclosed, may differ for each library or consortium. (For more information on how libraries pay for such services, see "University Libraries Debate the Value of Package Deals on Electronic Journals," 9/12/97) In the next year, officials say, all 400 of the journals published by Wiley -- from the American Journal of Hematology to X-Ray Spectrometry -- will be available on line. Other publishers who are putting their journals on the Web include Academic Press, which offers the electronic versions of 175 journals on its International Digital Electronic Access Library; Elsevier, which so far provides access to 45 journals on ScienceDirect; the John Hopkins University Press, which has put 40 journals on Project Muse; and Stanford University Press, which has put 18 journals on HighWire Press. Background stories from The Chronicle: "University Libraries Debate the Value of Package Deals on Electronic Journals ," 9/12/97 "HighWire Press Transforms Publication of Scientific Journals," 5/16/97 "Johns Hopkins U. Press Puts More Than 40 Journals on Internet," 2/21/97 ************************************************************* Mark A. Temple, PhD, CHES Assistant Professor of Health, Texas Tech University MarkT@ttu.edu Visit my home page:"Temple of Health" http://129.118.36.78 (806) 742-2375 (806) 742-1688 FAX ************************************************************** "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." Buddha ------------------------------ #1435 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 10:52:03 -0400 From: "Sandra S. Bargainnier" Subject: Re: Jane Fonda Yes I did see the Jane Fonda piece! It was well done and accurate. She was well informed and a real advocate in our favor!!! First Miss America and now Jane Fonda,........might we support them and thank them somehow? Sandy On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, David C. Wiley 245-2946 wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > I was just curious, but did any of you this morning see Jane Fonda on Good > Morning America touting the virtues of "comprehensive sexuality programs" in > school settings? She was talking about the abstinence-only funds that have been > made available and how the majority of American don't want ab-only programs, > etc.. I must say that she was VERY well-informed. Did you get that impression?? > > Did I actually see this or am I hallucinating again?? > > Thanks, > > DCW > ************************************************************************ ** Sandra Bargainnier Ed.D CHES voice mail 315/341-2879 Assistant Professor e-mail: ssbargai@syr.edu Department of Health Science and Physical Ed. or bargainn@oswego.edu The State University of New York (SUNY) College at Oswego 206 Laker Hall Oswego, NY 13126. ------------------------------ #1436 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:01:06 -0400 From: "Sandra S. Bargainnier" Subject: school nurse software I am helping a school nurse/health educator get started in a new position. Does anyone know of any software programs for student health records (K-12) and information?? Thnka you for your help SAndy Bargainnier please send email to : ssbargai@syr.edu ************************************************************************ ** Sandra Bargainnier Ed.D CHES voice mail 315/341-2879 Assistant Professor e-mail: ssbargai@syr.edu Department of Health Science and Physical Ed. or bargainn@oswego.edu The State University of New York (SUNY) College at Oswego 206 Laker Hall Oswego, NY 13126. ------------------------------ #1437 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:32:11 -0600 From: Rodney Bowden Subject: Technology To follow up on Mark Temple's posting, for those who use Netscape as their browser can download the latest version (Netscape Communicator 4.03) and it contains Netscape Composer which aids in the creation of web pages. You do not have to know HTML and it is similar to putting together a presentation in power point. It is very easy and user friendly! You can change screen and font colors, choose between backgrounds and if you have a scanner, you can even have pictures. It takes a bunch of memory, so you have to have some hard disk space. You also still need server space at your universtiy, school or job. But with this program anybody can create web pages. Rodney Bowden ------------------------------------------------ Rodney Bowden, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Health Science Stephen F. Austin State University Voice: x 409-468-3503 Fax: x 409-468-1850 E-mail f_BowdenRG@titan.sfasu.edu ------------------------------ #1438 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 14:08:25 -0400 From: Mimi Kiser Subject: Re: Jane Fonda Jane Fonda has an organization in Georgia (state wide) that works on teenage pregnancy prevention. Yes, she is well informed and is trying to make a difference here. Mimi Kiser Interfaith Health Program The Carter Center Atlanta On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, David C. Wiley 245-2946 wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > I was just curious, but did any of you this morning see Jane Fonda on Good > Morning America touting the virtues of "comprehensive sexuality programs" in > school settings? She was talking about the abstinence-only funds that have been > made available and how the majority of American don't want ab-only programs, > etc.. I must say that she was VERY well-informed. Did you get that impression?? > > Did I actually see this or am I hallucinating again?? > > Thanks, > > DCW > ------------------------------ #1439 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 13:01:00 -0400 From: "Dushaw, Martha" Subject: FW: Mint Snuff ---------- From: Crossett, Linda To: Dushaw, Martha Subject: RE: Mint Snuff Date: Wednesday, October 01, 1997 5:04PM I am not on the network, so perhaps you could forward this message. Mint Snuff has been out for a good while - about 5 years or so. There is some controversy about it (sort of like the one about candy cigarettes), in that some feel it might encourage the oral habilt among those who might move on to real tobacco. As far as a cessation tool, there have been some studies, and I think some of those were shown to have been somewhat sucessful in helping folks quit using ST. Two contact persons: Herb Severson, Oregon Research Institute (who did the studies) - 503/484-2123; herb@ori.org Samira Asma, CDC, Office on Smoking and Health (epidemiologist/dentist) who is the specialist on ST in that Division - 770-488-5703; sea5@cdc.gov ---------- From: Dushaw, Martha To: Crossett, Linda Subject: FW: Mint Snuff Date: Wednesday, October 01, 1997 2:46PM FYI ---------- From: Renee Drellishak To: HEDIR-L@SIU.EDU Subject: Mint Snuff Date: Wednesday, October 01, 1997 11:59AM I recently saw an ad on television for a product called Mint Snuff. It's a tobacco-free, nicotine-free substitute for spit tobacco. Ingredients listed are maltitol syrup, mint, natural flavors, tocopherols (vitamin E) and potassium sorbate. I checked out their web page (www.1800eatmint.com), called for more information, spent a *long* time on the phone with Ken Manske, director of the Tobacco Intervention Network which is helping to promote this product, and now have a box full of samples and brochures on my desk. While we currently have no tobacco cessation program, I have received requests for both smoking and chewing cessation programs and am wondering how and whether to work this product in. Has anyone else used this product for tobacco cessation programming and what sort of success did you have? Renee Drellishak, MPH Manager of Health Promotion and Development Hall Health Primary Care Center University of Washington (206) 616-8476 reneedre@u.washington.edu ------------------------------ #1440 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:50:11 -0400 From: John Canfield Subject: Re: Jane Fonda & Miss America Hi all, One of our local PTA's is bringing in Miss America for an AIDS Awareness Night for a cluster of public schools. She will speak on prevention and they are also showing one section of the AIDS Quilt. They have also invited Jane Fonda to speak. I will let you know how it all goes. BTW, Miss America is not free... they charge for her appearances. ********* John Canfield, M.Ed., C.H.E.S. Director of Public Awareness AIDGwinnett, Inc. 725 Scenic Highway P.O. Box 884 Lawrenceville, GA 30046-0884 (770) 962-8396 (770) 962-1291 Jccanfield@worldnet.att.net Sandra S. Bargainnier wrote: > > Yes I did see the Jane Fonda piece! It was well done and accurate. > She was well informed and a real advocate in our favor!!! > > First Miss America and now Jane Fonda,........might we support them and > thank them somehow? > > Sandy > > On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, David C. Wiley > 245-2946 wrote: > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > I was just curious, but did any of you this morning see Jane Fonda on Good > > Morning America touting the virtues of "comprehensive sexuality programs" in > > school settings? She was talking about the abstinence-only funds that have been > > made available and how the majority of American don't want ab-only programs, > > etc.. I must say that she was VERY well-informed. Did you get that impression?? > > > > Did I actually see this or am I hallucinating again?? ------------------------------ #1441 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:13:36 -0500 From: Jeanne Herman Subject: Position Announcement We invite your application for the following position: The Department of Health and Exercise Science at Gustavus Adolphus College seeks applicants for a tenure track position. Qualifications include: completed doctoral degree in health promotion or related field; minimum of two year's teaching experience; ACSM certification - health fitness instructor or exercise leader; ARC instructor in first aid and CPR; experience in health promotion and corporate fitness. The position includes teaching undergraduate courses in nutrition and exercise, stress management, health fitness methods, senior seminar which includes a major writing component, and a variety of health and fitness-related courses. To apply for this position, send a letter of application, resume, and the names and addresses of three professional references to: Dr. Jeanne Herman, Co-Chair, HES Dept., Gustavus Adolphus College, 800 West College Ave., St. Peter, MN 56082-1498. Review of applications will begin December 1 and continue until the position is filled. It is the policy of Gustavus Adolphus College to provide educational and employment opportunities for all. We specifically encourage applications from women, minorities, and persons with disabilities. If you have any questions, e-mail jherman@gac.edu. Thank you for sharing this position announcement with your graduate assistants and colleagues. Jeanne Jeanne M. Herman, PhD Associate Professor and Chair Dept. of Health and Exercise Science Gustavus Adolphus College 212E Lund Center 800 West College Ave. St. Peter, MN 56082 507-933-7614 ------------------------------ #1442 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 09:24:53 PST From: BRAZAJ@WOU.EDU Subject: Death of a Colleague Dear colleagues and friends, On August 24, Larry Fahlberg died in a climbing accident in the Tetons Mountains in Wyoming. Larry was a Health Educator and professor at the University of Wyoming. At the time of his untimely death, Larry was just embarking on a year long sabbatical leave. My professional connection with Larry began at the University of Utah where he received his Ph.D. His professional contributions were numerous including time spent on the editorial board for the Journal of Health Education. I remember Larry as a fellow traveler on a spiritual journey. Our conversations were seldom based on our professional agendas and were often about living more fully, "following one's bliss," and impermanence. Following his death, how quickly I was reminded that we are all only one step away from death. Little did I know that the accident of a healthy colleague would offer so many reminders of my own impermanence. What I remember most about Larry was his joy and smile. His life and his message were one and my life was impacted by his journey, peace, and presence. Lauri Fahlberg, his wife, has set up "The Larry Fahlberg Memorial Fund. Donations received will be placed into a scholarship fund for a Community Health student at Carroll College in Montana. Send contributions to "The Larry Fahlberg Memorial Fund" at Box 10484, Helena, Montana 59604. Lauri could use your good thoughts and prayers as she struggles with pain of her great loss and begins a new teaching position at Carroll College. Her e-mail is < lfahlber@carroll.edu> "Remember, friends, as you pass by, As you are now so once was I. As I am now, so you must be. Prepare yourself to follow me." -Common eighteenth-century epitaph Thank you for remembering Larry. Lauri would appreciate any support regarding the Memorial Fund as well as your emotional and spiritual help. Warm regards, Jerry Braza Enjoy the moment, Jerry Jerry Braza, Ph.D. Western Oregon University Health Education Monmouth, OR. 97351 503-838-8253 ------------------------------ #1443 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:59:54 -0700 From: Andrew Jenkins Subject: Friday Inspiration Friends and Fellows, The greatest benefit of this job is the lifelong learning that goes on. My students teach me things everyday. During a discussion of the necessary components of a health educcation program a student stated that freedom of speech was absolutely crucial, without it education would only be partial--never complete. Bright kid! "Better a thousandfold abuse of free speech than denial of free speech. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial stays the life of the people and entombs the race" Charles Bradlaugh Good Day! Great tomorrows! Andy J :{) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++ ++++++++ "It is difficult to say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow." Robert Goddard Andrew P. Jenkins, PhD, CHES Health Education Programs Central Washington University Ellensburg, WA 98926 509-963-1041 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++ +++++++++ ------------------------------ #1444 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 15:14:45 -0500 From: Elizabeth Henderson Subject: Jobs in Missouri A colleague ask that I send this to the HEDIR. If you have questions about the positions please contact Jim Pruitt, Bureau of Health Promotion, MO Dept. of Health @ 573-876-3250. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CAREER OPPORTUNITY Health Program Representative I Salary Range: $21,288 - $23,500 The Missouri Department of Health invites applicants for the position of Health Program Representative I. Two positions are currently available to work in the Southeastern District Health Office as part of Division of Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion in Poplar Bluff, Missouri. This position is under the Missouri State Merit System. These positions will be responsible for assisting in planning, promoting, implementing, and evaluating the Physical Activity Project in the Ozark & Bootheel regions. These positions will also collaborate with community leaders, employers, media, physicians, health educators, religious institutions, and the public to promote and implement physical activity policy initiatives. Duties include providing information on the benefits of physical activity to the local media, community organizations, agencies, and the public. Maintaining a project log of contacts, events, media coverage and other related information. Complete monthly reports, newspaper articles and routine correspondence. Each position is designated to coordinate community-based programs with emphasis on women and physical activity to surrounding counties. One position covers Dunklin, Mississippi, New Madrid, Pemiscot, Scott and Stoddard counties. The other position covers Butler, Carter, Howell, Ripley, Shannon and Wayne counties. Applicants must be able to work with diverse groups, have excellent communication and organizational skills, be able to travel and work flexible hours. Minimum Experience & Training Qualifications Graduation from an accredited four-year college or university with specialization in health care administration, public, personnel or business administration, the biological or social sciences, or education or High school graduation plus four years experience in public health, counseling, community organization or closely related fields. Clerical experience at the III-level or comparable (such as Data Control Clerk II, Account Clerk II, Storekeeper I, etc.) with the Missouri Department of Health or a local public health unit. Resumes should be submitted by October 28, 1997 to: Nicholas Williams, OPTPD, P.O. Box 570, Jefferson City, MO. 65102-0570. The Department of Health is an equal opportunity/affirmative action employer. Services are provided on a nondiscriminatory basis. ------------------------------ #1445 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:15:14 EST From: Srijana Bajracharya Subject: comment Hello everybody, It is ironic that we health educators have to depend on celebrities like Jane Fonda and Miss America (who are not even health professionals) to send our messages out to the public and be our advocates. When I watch national news on TV every morning, I see mostly physicians talking about people's health behaviors, the relevant research findings, and the importance of prevention. They speak about the significance of communication and services provided by physicians, nurses, parents, and teachers, but not a mention of health educators. It would be nice to see health educators starting to connect to the national media, giving these messages themselves every so often, and taking a lead on disease prevention/health promotion. Am I the only one who sees these things and feels this way? Srijana B. Srijana M. Bajracharya, Ph.D. Associate Professor HPER Division University of Maine at Presque Isle Presque Isle, ME 04769 Bajra@polaris.umpi.maine.edu OR Srijana@Maine.Maine.Edu ------------------------------ #1446 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 16:35:56 GMT From: "MAHONEY, COLLEEN" Subject: Re: comment I agree with Srijana. I do not feel we have done a good job of advocating our profession and initiatives. cmahoney@emerald.educ.kent.edu Colleen Mahoney Assistant Professor, Health Education ACHVE Department, 316 White Hall Kent State University Kent OH 44242 ------------------------------ #1447 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:33:00 ET From: "J.BLACK" Subject: employment of health educators To: HEDIR Readers I have been searching for information about the employability or employment status of health educators. I am looking specifically for data related to the following three issues: 1. How many of our current health education graduates have jobs as health educators? 2. How many individuals with health education degrees are working in other professions? 3. How long does it take the average health education graduate to find a job as a practicing health educator? Bachelors? Masters? Doctorate? Any information about these issues would help. Comments and discussion also are welcome. What do YOU think? Jill M. Black, Ph.D., CHES Cleveland State University 2451 Euclid Avenue Cleveland, OH 44115-2408 (216) 687-4829 j.black@csuohio.edu ------------------------------ #1448 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 21:14:55 -0400 From: "TOM SIMS (in WEST VIRGINIA)" Subject: Re: comment I think the comment about the role of health educator as spokesperson is very good. I think that sometimes the reason the media doesn't come to us when a health related item emerges is that we have not done some of the things we need to do to increase our visibility. I know that in my state we have made successful attempts to establish relationships with the "health beat" reporters in the local media, and they are as likely to come to us for a story as to go to local doctors or others for comment/reaction. Tom Sims (in West Virginia) ------------------------------ #1449 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 21:29:36 -0700 From: Margo Harris Subject: Fw: comment When I read the comment about health educators as spokespeople, I couldn't help thinking about a line in the movie, The American President. Even (not great) movies have some great lines. The President is speaking about his rival, and he is speaking about citizenship; so you have to substitute health educator/education. He says, "I thought the problem was that (name inserted) didn't get it. It's not that he doesn't get it. It's that he can't sell it." Health educators "get it" better than ever before. We need to learn to market our message and work the media connections if we want to be the spokespeople with the message that people listen to. On the other hand, if the message is being received successfully and acted upon, it really doesn't bother me that it's coming from Jane Fonda or Miss America. Previous comments have mentioned how articulate, well informed, etc. they are. Is the message only acceptable if it comes from a health educator directly? Margo Margo Harris Harris Training & Consulting Services, Inc. Email: htcs@halcyon.com Internet: http://www.htcs.com/ ------------------------------ #1450 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 08:23:40 -0700 From: "R. Collins" Subject: Re: Fw: comment Margo, Thanks for sharing the line from the movie. And I agree that we need to encourage our message be shared by anyone and everyone who has access to the media (health educator or not). In this case the end justifies the means......Keep up the super work. You are a great resource person for all of us. Thanks. Bob Bob Collins 206-720-5038 (phone) Center for Health Education & Research collinsb@u.washington.edu University of Washington 206-720-4382 (fax) 1001 Broadway, Suite 100 Seattle, WA. 98122 On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Margo Harris wrote: > When I read the comment about health educators as spokespeople, I couldn't > help thinking about a line in the movie, The American President. Even (not > great) movies have some great lines. The President is speaking about his > rival, and he is speaking about citizenship; so you have to substitute > health educator/education. He says, "I thought the problem was that (name > inserted) didn't get it. It's not that he doesn't get it. It's that he > can't sell it." Health educators "get it" better than ever before. We > need to learn to market our message and work the media connections if we > want to be the spokespeople with the message that people listen to. > On the other hand, if the message is being received successfully and acted > upon, it really doesn't bother me that it's coming from Jane Fonda or Miss > America. Previous comments have mentioned how articulate, well informed, > etc. they are. Is the message only acceptable if it comes from a health > educator directly? Margo > > Margo Harris > Harris Training & Consulting Services, Inc. > Email: htcs@halcyon.com > Internet: http://www.htcs.com/ > ------------------------------ #1451 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:11:58 EDT From: Fred Breukelman Subject: Re: comment It may be ironic, especially for those of you in the academic world. Unfortunately, for many of us in governmental public health agencies, we really need the Jane Fondas -- because our voices are silenced by state and federal "lobbying" laws or even internal censorship. We'd love to be very vocal on the issue of honesty in sexuality education, and we're very frustrated that we can't be without risking our jobs. -- Fred Breukelman (from a state health department, of course) Srijana Bajracharya Wrote: | | Hello everybody, | | It is ironic that we health educators have to depend | on | celebrities like Jane Fonda and Miss America (who are not | even health | professionals) to send our messages out to the public and | be our | advocates. | Srijana B. | | Srijana M. Bajracharya, Ph.D. ------------------------------ #1452 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:58:02 -0500 From: "Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D." Subject: Congratulations Just a quick note to let the HEDIR family know of the recent marriage to my colleague Judy Drolet and her husband Larry Townsend. The long-awaited, long planned ceremony took place this past weekend in San Francisco. Congrats Judy and Larry... Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D. Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle HEDIR Home Page: www.siu.edu/~kittle/HEDIR/Menu.html Editor: International Electronic Journal of Health Education: http://131.230.221.136/iejhe ------------------------------ #1453 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:26:40 -0600 From: Amy Eyler Subject: job opening The Prevention Research Center at the Saint Louis University School of Public Health has an opening for a PROJECT MANAGER. This manager would be responsible for the day-to day operations of a grant titled " Environmental and Poilcy Factors and Physical Acivity in Women". The grant is part of a 5-year, $2.5 million grant from CDC. The grant is part of the NIH Women's Health Initiative Community Prevention Study, and is currently beginning its 3rd year. The position requires considerable independent initiative, accuracy, timeliness, and professional attitude. Strong writing, oral presentation, and analytic skills are also essentail to the position. Education requires a Masters of Public Health and/or PhD in a public health field. Experience is desirable in assessing determinants of physical activity and in development and evaluation of physical activity interventions. To apply or request more information, contact: Ross Brownson, PhD Director, Prevention Research Center Saint Louis University School of Public Health 3663 Lindell Blvd. Suite 360 St. Louis, MO 63108-3342 tel. 314-977-8110 fax 314-977-3234 email: brownson@slu.edu ------------------------------ #1454 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:18:02 -0500 From: Jeffrey Clark Subject: employment of health educators -Reply Jill, There are two articles that are to be published in the Journal of health Education in the near future (98?) that pertains to your one of your questions. The articles are the result of a manpower study that was completed using a random sample of the nearly 3000 local/city/county health departments. Jeff Clark (765) 285-8305 00JKCLARK@BSUVC.BSU.EDU Ball State University ------------------------------ #1455 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:31:40 -0500 From: Holly Stone Subject: spokesperson This conversation about health educators becoming a spokesperson has been really interesting. I agree that the publicity is good. If we can get these key figures to talk about these issues and give them exposure, then let's do it. But what also concerns me is that they are doing our jobs. Health educators are seen as an expendable item. If you look at most of the job descriptions out there for the corporate wellness/health programs, most of them are looking for a BSN or even and RN. When people need information (specifically the media) about these topics they go to the doctors and nurses. But what bugs me is that these people have hardly any training in these areas. Doctors are not required to take any nutrition, exercise, or diseas prevention classes (at least not the ones with which I have had experience). Some nursing schools require general nutrition classes, but they still do not have the background, education, and experience that we, as health educators, get when we go through our programs. The basic point is that this exposure is great. But in order to protect, promote, and expand our profession we need to become the focal point. Look at what it has already cost us. Many schools are losing or have lost their physical education programs. The rest of us are being asked to prove our worth or face cut-backs or elimination. We must move to the forefront. We must show that we are the best source of information. We must show that we have been the ones on the front lines educating, intervening, and researching. We must show that we are indispensable. Holly Stone, M.Ed. Wellness Faculty Southern Methodist University PO Box 750353 Dallas, TX 75275-0353 Phone: (214) 768-1810 Fax: (214) 768-1812 hstone@mail.smu.edu ------------------------------ #1456 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:08:23 -0400 From: "Mary E. Arnold" Subject: Re: comment about visibility of health educators (LONG) Is it a question of the visibility of and reliance on health educators..... or is it primarily an issue of getting "the messages" out there. I've been a healthcare professional for 20+ years and only in the last 5 years have I entered the health education arena. Today I teach nutrition education at the elementary school level. If it takes Miss America to get the message out and someone voluntarily changes their lifestyle habits because of it YAHOO!!!! If Dr. Dean tosses a pearl of wisdom out there from TV land and somebody voluntarily makes lifestyle changes YAHOO!!!! If one of my classes of fifth graders meets their goal of eating 5 fruits/vegetables a day :::::::::: besides fainting:::::::::::: YAHOO!!! If we as health professionals support any and all messages that we know to be valid and that can potentially elicit those voluntary changes.... then we're being visible through others. I have chosen to make myself visible to our state gubernatorial candidates in the form of a letter to both of them. I haven't received an answer from either..... I've also submitted the question that I posed to both of them to the debate committee that chooses questions from state voters to pose to the candidates. It is my hope that tomorrow night on the first televised debate that my voice, as a health educator, will be heard through the media. Text of the letters follow. Mary E. Arnold RNC, BSN Graduate Student Old Dominion University School of Health Sciences, Department of Community Health Education *********************************************************************** This letter was sent to both Mr. Jim Gilmore, and Mr. Don Beyer who are both running for governor of Virginia. I just finished reading the lengthy articles about you and your opponent (Jim Gilmore) Don Beyer in this morning's Roanoke Times. Listed within those articles is a comparison of promises, platforms, and proposals in both of your campaigns. I was specifically interested in the improvements that you want to make in Virginia's public schools. I have to admit that I agree with each of the four proposals that were mentioned. But, my concerns, for the public schools and especially for the children that attend those schools, is for the preservation and support of a comprehensive health education curriculum Pre-Kindergarten through grade 12. As the standards of learning changed to improve the level of instruction in the core subjects, the standards that would improve the health of our children have not changed drastically.... indeed, the requirements have been set aside to make way for efforts to improve the academic performance of our children. In light of the changes within the healthcare arena over the last two decades, it is imperative that the children attending school here in the Commonwealth of Virginia receive instruction that will prepare them to become responsible and self-directed partners in their individual health maintenance. School based health and nutrition education is one of the most powerful means of early health promotion and disease prevention. A comprehensive health and nutrition education program can improve health practices that affect young people's health, growth, and intellectual development. Young people need health education to help them develop appropriate lifestyle practices . If they learn how to make nutritionally sound dietary choices as well as healthy lifestyle decisions early in their lives, during the stages of development when they can develop and practice the skills that they will be taught, they will be reducing their risk later in life for development of acute and chronic illness. Five of the ten leading cause of death in the United States today can be directly linked to poor lifestyle and nutritional habits. It is an issue of national importance that should draw the concern, participation, advocacy, and leadership of legislators, educators, parents, and the local community. My question to you, Mr Gilmore (Mr. Beyer), is where do you stand on emphasizing the vital importance of health education in our public schools? Are you willing to raise the public's awareness of this issue during your campaign? How would you plan to prevent the elimination of health education classes so that other academic subjects can be reinforced? Sincerely, Mary E. Arnold RNC, BSN Graduate Student Old Dominion University School of Health Sciences, Department of Community Health Education 315 Arrowhead Trail Christiansburg, VA 24073 540-381-2648 e-mail: CburgMom@aol.com ------------------------------ #1457 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:20:03 -0700 From: Margo Harris Subject: Public Sector Restraints Thanks, Fred. I think that's a limitation that some of us may be unaware of, i.e. some of the limitations on those in the public sector. Perhaps others want to comment. Whether you are employed in the public sector, non-profit, etc., you may be constrained by regulations pertaining to lobbying. In addition, public comment may reflect on an organization's donations or public image, and public comments may be reduced or diluted to be more careful or acceptable to a wide audience. The available science/research is also a factor. A recent interview of an NIH representative of the salt reduction campaign was made pretty uncomfortable when the issue of science was raised, science that indicated that salt reduction was of little or no health benefit, yet the government was moving forward with the high profile, expensive campaign. Margo Margo Harris Harris Training & Consulting Services, Inc. Email: htcs@halcyon.com Internet: http://www.htcs.com/ ------------------------------ #1458 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:53:54 -0400 From: Healthy Concepts Subject: Health educators, the media, etc. Here, here Margo for telling it like it is. Health educators may know how to do it better, but we haven't mastered the marketing part. What we can do, however, is collaborate with those who can market the message. I am proud that our recently published findings evaluating NYC schools' condom availability program made it to the front page of the New York Times and then was picked up by every New York area and some national media. Granted, we had the luxury of funds to pay a public relations firm to help us get the message out, but the result is that the NYC schools are under new pressure to keep the program going. Health education research might actually influence policy! So if it takes Miss America, Jane Fonda, or the New York Times to put our work on the map, I'm all for it. Lisa Lieberman healthy concepts ------------------------------ #1459 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:44:34 -0500 From: "Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D." Subject: Death of a Colleague What a horrible tragedy to hear about Larry, but what a wonderful eulogy by Jerry. Other than through electronic means I never met Larry, but numerous times, out of the blue, he would send me an uplifting e-mail. It was always sent at the right time (he must have had ESP or something). I can't fathom what that loss is to his wife and family. God bless her and the others who are grieving their loss. Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D. Home Page: http://131.230.221.136 HEDIR Home Page: http://131.230.221.136/HEDIR/Menu.html The International Electronic Journal of Health Education: http://131.230.221.136/iejhe/ ------------------------------ #1460 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:41:27 -0400 From: Mimi Kiser Subject: [IHP-NET] Job Opening (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 09:56:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Thomas A. Droege" To: ihp-net Subject: [IHP-NET] Job Opening The Interfaith Health Program (IHP) of The Carter Center is launching a new program, the Faith and Health Consortium (FHC). A national search for a program coordinator for the FHC is being conducted by The Carter Center on behalf of the IHP. Following a general description of the FHC, some specifics about this position will be provided. FAITH AND HEALTH CONSORTIUM: A Carter Center Project to Develop Strategies for Curriculum Development and Research of Faith/Health Practices in Schools of Theology and Public Health A Carter Center survey of course offerings in schools of public health, theology, nursing and medicine identified curricular offerings linking faith and health in many universities and seminaries in the US, 33 of which have been placed on the WWW site of its Interfaith Health Program (http://www.interaccess.com/ihpnet/syllabi.htm). An aggressive program to stimulate additional curriculum development and research of best practices in faith and health programs is needed to heighten the awareness and deepen the commitment of future religious and health leaders to faith and healthcollaborative endeavors. The Interfaith Health Program of The Carter Center is instituting a Faith and Health Consortium (FHC) to shape the professional identity of future religious and health leaders at a critical stage of their graduate training by introducing them to faith/health linkages at both theoretical and practical levels. The Carter Center is widely known and respected in the academic community because of the reputation of President Carter and the programs he has initiated since his retirement from public office. The credibility of The Carter Center in academic circles is enhanced by its affiliation with Emory University. It draws on the expertise of Emory faculty for its national and international programs and in turn provides faculty and students of the university an interface with the social and political spheres they are attempting to interpret and influence. The Carter Center is not a think tank but a base of operations for academics with an activist agenda. Focusing on the interface between theory and practice is what The Carter Center does best. The Faith and Health Consortium will consist of five universities with a school of public health and a seminary or school of theology, located either at the university or in close proximity. Schools of public health and theology are key partners in this project in that both have a praxis base in community health/ministry. Where possible, schools of nursing and medicine will be included as well. The link between faith and health in these disciplines is found in clinical practice. Building on what is already happening in mind/body studies, curriculum development and research in nursing and medicine will deepen an understanding of the relationship between spirituality and health. Each of the five academic partners in the Faith and Health Consortium will form an interdisciplinary task force of faculty and students from participating schools that will meet regularly throughout the academic year for critical conversation, planning joint projects, and discussing curricular and research concerns. Communication among the five FHC sites will be mostly on-line and through conference calls, but once a year representatives from all the academic centers will meet at The Carter Center. Professional meetings such as the APHA and the AAR will provide opportunities for interaction among Consortium members and for sharing information with professional colleagues. Expected Outcomes of the Faith and Health Consortium Syllabi On-line. The 33 syllabi already located on the IHP web site will be regularly updated and supplemented by a more thorough review of current course offerings. Easy availability of faith/health course offerings in all health-related disciplines is essential for the stimulation of additional curricular development in both graduate and undergraduate universities. Curricular Development. Each of the academic partners will develop a plan for adding units to existing courses as well as new course offerings linking faith and health, including at least one interdisciplinary course. In addition, training modules for lay health workers and summer institutes for religious and health leaders will be developed as faculty/student projects. Research and Field Education. Research by public health and seminary students (jointly when possible) on public health and faith community practices within a specified region of the US will provide a rich source of information about best practices that will be disseminated by the Interfaith Health Program. Field education will be available for interested students in faith/health practice sites. Annual meeting of academic partners. Each summer faculty and students from partner schools will meet at The Carter Center to share information about curricular development, dual degree programs, and research of faith/health practices. Faith and Health Consortium Sites - Atlanta: Emory University, Interdenominational Theological Center, Columbia Seminary, Morehouse School of Medicine - Berkeley: University of California, Graduate Theological Union - Pittsburgh: University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh Theological Seminary - Saint Louis: Saint Louis University, Aquinas Institute, Concordia Seminary, Eden Seminary - South Carolina: University of South Carolina, Lutheran Theological Southern Seminary JOB DESCRIPTION FOR FHC PROJECT COORDINATOR Candidates for the position of FHC project coordinator should be familiar with the connections between faith and health at both theoretical and practical levels. At the level of theory, this entails familiarity with the salutary effects of spirituality/religion on health outcomes, public health science and strategies, and a theological understanding of the health and healing mission of faith traditions. At the practical level, this entials familiarity with faith/ health practices, such as congregational health ministries and collaboration between public health and faith communities on strategies to improve health. Candidates with training and experience in health promotion (health education, community health) should have knowledge and experience in relating that background to faith traditions and congregational practices. Candidates with training and experience in theology and congregational ministries should have knowledge and experience in relating that background to health promotion in individuals, congregations, and communities. The FHC project coordinator must have management skills to coordinate activities at many different levels, communications skills to relate effectively with both academic colleagues and community activists, and the leadership capacity to guide the growth of FHC sites and expand their number. The project coordinator will have the following responsibilities: - Provide support for faculty, students, and community leaders at each of the FHC sites through regular site visits and personal communications. - Establish a communication infrastructure (internet, www site, and conference calls) for regular collegial contact among academic and community at each site. - Manage the IHP web site of course offerings linking faith and health. - Convene an annual conference of FHC academic and community partners at The Carter Center. - Facilitate intra-professional dialogue of persons interested in faith/health connections at professional meetings, such as AAPH and AAR. - Encourage research and writing by public health and seminary students and faculty. - Develop the capacity at FHC sites for service learning and community leadership training programs. - Share responsibilities with other IHP staff in support of total IHP program. - In conjunction with the development office, assist in the identification of funding resources and the development of fund-raising strategies and initiatives. - Represent the FHC through speaking engagements, attendance at professional meetings, and writing projects. - Conduct an ongoing program evaluation of the FHC at The Carter Center and assist in an ongoing program evaluation at each of the FHC sites. The project coordinator of the FHC reports to the Director of IHP and is a member of the IHP staff, working closely with staff colleagues in planning and implementing the larger IHP mission. Specifically, this entails integrating FHC centers and activities into other IHP coalitions, initiatives, and projects. Minimum qualifications: Ph.D. degree (or its equivalent) in a field related to program area or Master's degree with three years related program management experience. We anticipate that the largest number of interested in and qualified persons for this position are likely to hear about it through the message on this and other listserves for religious and health professionals. Please forward this message to any listserve that may have persons who might wish to apply. Send resumes to The Carter Center, c/o Jim Dunn, Direcor, Organizational Development, One Copenhill Avenue, Atlanta, Georgia 30307. FAX 404-420-3818 ------------------------------ #1461 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:45:35 -0400 From: Jack Osman Subject: Re: spokesperson At 10:31 AM 10/6/97 -0500, Holly Stone wrote: >This conversation about health educators becoming a spokesperson has been really >interesting. I agree that the publicity is good. If we can get these key >figures to talk about these issues and give them exposure, then let's do it. >But what also concerns me is that they are doing our jobs. Health educators are >seen as an expendable item. If you look at most of the job descriptions out >there for the corporate wellness/health programs, most of them are looking for a >BSN or even and RN. When people need information (specifically the media) >about these topics they go to the doctors and nurses. But what bugs me is that >these people have hardly any training in these areas. Doctors are not required >to take any nutrition, exercise, or diseas prevention classes (at least not the >ones with which I have had experience). Some nursing schools require general >nutrition classes, but they still do not have the background, education, and >experience that we, as health educators, get when we go through our programs. > >The basic point is that this exposure is great. But in order to protect, >promote, and expand our profession we need to become the focal point. Look at >what it has already cost us. Many schools are losing or have lost their >physical education programs. The rest of us are being asked to prove our worth >or face cut-backs or elimination. We must move to the forefront. We must show >that we are the best source of information. We must show that we have been the >ones on the front lines educating, intervening, and researching. We must show >that we are indispensable. > > > >Holly Stone, M.Ed. >Wellness Faculty >Southern Methodist University >PO Box 750353 >Dallas, TX 75275-0353 >Phone: (214) 768-1810 >Fax: (214) 768-1812 >hstone@mail.smu.edu > I have great respect for people who can make love to a camera lens. Few health educators, particularly few with Ph.D., M.P.H., Ed.D., (and look-out -- CHES) behind their names have any training (and little skill) communicating to the masses via TV. It is a learned art form that takes practice, practice, and more practice. Years ago, in early TV, directors soon learned that it was easier to make an actor into a doctor, than try to have a real MD become an actor. Perhaps that can also be said for health educators. As one of those CHES/Ph.D.'s I've had my share of opportunities to communicate the health message on TV. And yes, I've fallen flat on my face because of a lack of experience and training in the medium. Believe me, it isn't easy and it doesn't come naturally. (But if this is a competency for our profession, where is the training coming from?) No one can lay claim to the health message -- exclusively. Along with St. Paul, I don't care how the message is preached or who does the preaching. No one owns the "truth." God bless Miss America, Jane Fonda and/or Dr. X. Let the truth prevail. Sure it would be nice if we who are full blown health educators could become the medium and the message, but if truth be know -- as painful as it might be for some of us -- we lack the skills and the visibility to do it as effectively as non-certified health communicators. Jack D. Osman Towson University ------------------------------ #1462 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:59:29 -0700 From: Dawn Graff-Haight Subject: Re: Jane Fonda I happened to be home with a sick child and saw Jane on the Rosie O'Donnell show on Thursday afternoon. She spoke about Comprehensive Sexuality Education programs, and encouraged parents to demand quality, comprehensive sexuality education programs. She was very well informed. Had good data and used it well about the number and percentage of sexually active teens. I nearly fell off my chair. Go Jane!!! Dawn Graff-Haight Health Human Performance and Athletics Linfield College 1-503-434-2641 On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, David C. Wiley 245-2946 wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > I was just curious, but did any of you this morning see Jane Fonda on Good > Morning America touting the virtues of "comprehensive sexuality programs" in > school settings? She was talking about the abstinence-only funds that have been > made available and how the majority of American don't want ab-only programs, > etc.. I must say that she was VERY well-informed. Did you get that impression?? > > Did I actually see this or am I hallucinating again?? > > Thanks, > > DCW > ------------------------------ #1463 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:37:19 -0700 From: Dawn Graff-Haight Subject: Re: Fw: comment I agree with Margo's comment about the source of accurate, meaningful health information from folks who aren't necessarily professionally trained health educators. I'd like to point out that these people are getting their information from somewhere. Could it be that their sources are HEALTH EDUCATORS? Let's continue to applaud and support those in the public eye who pick up our cause and assist us in getting the word out. Jane Fonda reached more people on Rosie O'Donnell last Thursday than I will in a lifetime. And even if I was on Rosie to do my song and dance for Health Education, because I'm NOT Jane Fonda, most folks would choose that time to get up and go to the bathroom. Dawn Graff-Haight Health Human Performance and Athletics Linfield College 1-503-434-2641 ------------------------------ #1464 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:30:39 -0600 From: "William B. Cissell" Subject: Celebrities delivering the message HEDIRS, I applaud all the professional health educators and health promoters who have approved of celebrities delivering health messages. Jack Osman was eloquent in describing how celebrities are much better suited to delivering messsages via television and movie cameras. Health educators have a much broader array of skills and competencies than merely delivering health messages. We should appreciate the performance of those who can be particularly successful in delivering such messages. Let's continue assessing needs, planning effective health education/health promotion programs, utilizing appropriate strategies while implementing successful health education programs, evaluating health education programs so that we can improve upon them, coordinating our programs and practices with those of other health professionals and lay persons seeking the educate about and promote health, facilitating access to health related resources, communicating about health and health education and health promotion, conducting research on health education and health promotion processes and practices, administering health education and health promotion programs, and advancing the profession. These collectively contribute to a professional who is much more complex and sophisticated than one who merely delivers health messages. May we all continue to enjoy good health, professional satisfaction, and personal fulfillment. Let's also comfort those who have suffered losses as Lauri did. Many of us will miss our colleague, Larry. Bill D_Cissell@twu.edu ------------------------------ #1465 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 06:52:48 -0400 From: Nursedisel@AOL.COM Subject: subscribe Subscribe to Health List Nurse Disel ------------------------------ #1466 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:21:46 -0500 From: Rob Bates Subject: University Program Data Needed >Dear University Health Professionals, > >The Department of Health Studies at Eastern Illinois University has been requested by our President to identify comparable health programs for the purposes of benchmarking our performance with other institutions. We are asking for your help in this very demanding task. Would you please take a moment and supply us with the information requested below? We are on a very short time line and your immediate attention is needed. THANK YOU!! > >Benchmarking Data Requested for 1996-1997 Academic Year > >1. Number of undergraduate majors: Community Health ____ School Health _____ > >2. Number of majors that graduated in 96-97: ____________ > >3. Full Time teaching faculty for Health Courses __________FTE > >4. Budget Dollars for Health program $______________ > >5. Number of Personnel for Administration of Health Programs ______FTE > >6. Number of office support personnel: Secretary _____ Student workers _____ > >7. Total Semester hours generated* in Health program ____________SHG > >* Semester Hours Generated is calculated by totaling the number of semester hours generated for all the health courses for the academic year - Fall 1996 and Spring 1997. To determine the SHG for a course, take the number of students enrolled and multiply by the number of semester hours of the course. EXAMPLE: HST 2000 is three semester hours and has 32 students enrolled =96 SHG. > >8. Are you willing to share this data with other Health programs? ________ > >If the Department of Health Studies can ever return the favor, please do not hesitate to contact us. > >If there are any questions as to the data needed you can E-mail cfrpb@eiu.edu, fax 217-581-7013 or call 217-581-5761 M-F 8-4:30 or call me at home in the evenings and weekends at 217-345-2535. I will return your call as soon as I possibly can because without your help, we cannot meet our goal. >Thanks. > >Rob Bates > Robert P. Bates, Chair Eastern Illinois University Department of Health Studies 600 Lincoln Ave. Charleston, IL 61920-3099 _________ 217-581-5761 | | Fax 217-581-7013 ___| |__ | _ _ | | - |_|-----|_|--|_....................... ------------------------------ #1467 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:50:14 GMT From: "MAHONEY, COLLEEN" Subject: Re: Celebrities delivering the message This discussion regarding health messages and celebrities is interesting. I have no trouble with celebrities assisting us in getting health messages out -- as long as the messages are based on accurate information I believe it can be very useful. In fact, a strategy for health communication efforts is selecting a spokesperson to deliver the message(s). However, I also think we need to caution the idea/belief that it can be left up to the celebrities. Many physicians and nurses also serve as spokespersons yet they do not have training in working with the media, marketing etc. Bottom line -- we need to be advocates for our profession and initiatives. We need to make sure future health educators have training in social marketing and advocacy. To this day many professionals (including those in the medical field) and most lay people have no idea what health education is/ who health educators are. Yes, our goal is getting the word out in hope that communities and individuals will become healthier and it takes many types of people and professions to advance that goal. But I would like to see us in the forefront of such efforts; if we are not we may just disappear. I'd be interested in knowing from those of you who saw Jane Fonda -- did she mention health education/health educator? If so great! If not..... cmahoney@emerald.educ.kent.edu Colleen Mahoney Assistant Professor, Health Education Coordinator, Center for Health Promotion ACHVE Department, 316 White Hall Kent State University Kent OH 44242 ------------------------------ #1468 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:27:29 -0700 From: "elmar (by way of Jim Grizzell by way of Jim Grizzell )" Subject: Something to Look Into: Health Promotion Sponsorships I'm on a marketing listerv and the third paragraph of this message is something we ought to look into further. Someone has done some research we may be able to use. Jim From: Richard Speed Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 09:17:53 +1000 Subject: RESPONSE - Valuation of Sports Sponsorship or Publicity I strongly endorse Bettina Cornwell's comment. Measuring (and putting some $ value to) exposure tells us very little about the likelihood of changes in purchase behaviour or attitude on the part of customers, and even less about the achievement of some of the objectives that can be pursued with sponsorship. The problem with sponsorship is that so many objectives can be pursued using it and so many activities can be undertaken in support of it, that it is impossible to provide a simple metric to convert spending to impact, however measured. Of course, this does make it a fun area to research. The area that seems most advanced in terms of evaluation is health promotion sponsorships. Rob Donovan (of University of Western Australia) and co-authors presented a paper at the Market Research Society of Australia/ Market Research Society of New Zealand Conference in 1996 that did look at the impact of health promotion sponsorships all the way from exposure through to behavioural change. They also attempted to compare the impact of big $/small $ sponsorships. I do not know if this paper has been submitted to any journal. I should point out that they had access to a large data base containing measures on all health promotion sponsorships funded by the state. Richard Speed Associate Professor of Marketing Melbourne Business School -- Email List for Marketing Academic Research (elmar) elmar messages to: elmar@sc.edu elmar questions to: elmar-request@sc.edu elmar archives: http://cards.badm.sc.edu/elmar/raw/ Moderated by: Peter Palij, University of South Carolina pbp@sc.edu ------------------------------ #1469 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:48:32 -0400 From: Carl Peter Subject: Re: Celebrities delivering the message Will our health education national offices be writing a thank you to Jane Fonda and Miss America...of course to thank them but more importantly to let them know their messages are important and that the health education profession exists and is available to assist them in any way. Write to AAHE, SOPHE, ACHA, ASHA, APHA sections, and endorse that they should do this. We have too long been one of the "best kept secrets" in public/community/personal health. ------------------------------ #1470 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:58:38 -0400 From: Valerie Welsh Subject: Re[2]: Celebrities delivering the message My two cents: The major issue is: what, if anything, does the professionally trained health educator contribute to society by way of a "unique value added" that others less or differently trained (i.e., celebrities, RNs, social workers, etc.) do not? How do we--and, esp. members of the general public, know it? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Celebrities delivering the message Author: "MAHONEY; COLLEEN" at INTERNET Date: 10/7/97 10:50 AM This discussion regarding health messages and celebrities is interesting. I have no trouble with celebrities assisting us in getting health messages out -- as long as the messages are based on accurate information I believe it can be very useful. In fact, a strategy for health communication efforts is selecting a spokesperson to deliver the message(s). However, I also think we need to caution the idea/belief that it can be left up to the celebrities. Many physicians and nurses also serve as spokespersons yet they do not have training in working with the media, marketing etc. Bottom line -- we need to be advocates for our profession and initiatives. We need to make sure future health educators have training in social marketing and advocacy. To this day many professionals (including those in the medical field) and most lay people have no idea what health education is/ who health educators are. Yes, our goal is getting the word out in hope that communities and individuals will become healthier and it takes many types of people and professions to advance that goal. But I would like to see us in the forefront of such efforts; if we are not we may just disappear. I'd be interested in knowing from those of you who saw Jane Fonda -- did she mention health education/health educator? If so great! If not..... cmahoney@emerald.educ.kent.edu Colleen Mahoney Assistant Professor, Health Education Coordinator, Center for Health Promotion ACHVE Department, 316 White Hall Kent State University Kent OH 44242 ------------------------------ #1471 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:04:31 -0400 From: Michaela Conley Subject: Health Promotion Positions Available Mercy Regional Health System Greater Cincinnati is seeking Healthplex Site Director(s) for Mercy Centers for Health and Wellness Early In 1998, Mercy Regional Heath System Greater Cincinnati will open two (2) 230,000+sf Mercy Center for Health and Wellness facilities serving the Anderson and Fairfield locations. The Centers support Mercy's commitment to serving mind, body and spirit. 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I believe our special competencies are needs assessment/program planning/evaluation -- at least in concept. cmahoney@emerald.educ.kent.edu Colleen Mahoney Assistant Professor, Health Education Coordinator, Center for Health Promotion ACHVE Department, 316 White Hall Kent State University Kent OH 44242 ------------------------------ #1473 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:44:55 -0400 From: Patricia Houston Subject: What makes us different...... I think that what makes us different is that we are able to maintain a holistic perspective of health issues and how each individual issue interacts with each other, with individuals, with communities, other professions, and the environment as a whole. We utilize lay health professionals to help us carry our messages to communities, so I have no problem with media personalities advocating for healthy behaviors. What needs to be understood is that often lay health professionals and/or the media only advocate on behalf of issues that are narrowly focused. They are only advocating for one or a few health issues (one piece of the pie, so to speak), and may not be able to connect their issue to the broader social picture. That is why a health educator is often the coordinator of education/services and serves as the resource person for many projects. Patricia Houston ------------------------------ #1474 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:50:12 EDT From: Fred Breukelman Subject: Re: Re[2]: Celebrities delivering the message My quick response: We health educators provide the research, the data, the methodologies and the behavior change education that have the greatest long-term impact. People like Jane Fonda, who are champions and advocates of our causes, come along only rarely. They give the issues the public visibility that allows us to maximize our efforts and make greater progress (if we latch on to the opportunity). She championed this issue because she believes in it and was angered by federal legislation. We should be looking for and developing other champions for other issues and the state and local level, as well as the federal level. We have a vital role; but so do our champions/advocates. [We just don't get the spotlight, which is even more reason why we need them.] Valerie Welsh Wrote: | | My two cents: The major issue is: what, if | anything, does the | professionally trained health educator contribute | to society by way of a | "unique value added" that others less or | differently trained (i.e., | celebrities, RNs, social workers, etc.) do not? | How do we--and, esp. | members of the general public, know it? | | ______________________________ Reply Separator ------------------------------ #1475 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:17:25 -0400 From: Sara Corwin Subject: Added to HED List Serve hi! would it be possible to add me to your list serve? thanks! Sara J. Corwin, PhD, MPH Assistant Professor, Health Georgia Southern University PO Box 8076 Statesboro, GA 30460 voice: 912.871.1922 fax: 912.681.0381 email: scorwin@gsaix2.cc.gasou.edu ------------------------------ #1476 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:05:24 -0700 From: Donna Kuttner Subject: speaking of spokespersons for(?) health Dear colleagues, Last night my physician husband & I finally got around to watching the taped version of last week's episode of one of the most watched TV programs: ER. We were dismayed to see, at the end, the character, Dr. Mark Green, lighting up and smoking with the newly hired desk clerk. YOU know that these actors are not physicians. I know that. I am sure that MOST of the public know as well. However, it is very visible product placement in the hands of a health care role model on a very popular program. I would like to contact NBC to complain. Do any of you have access to an address? Interested in your responses: Donna Holberg Kuttner, PhD, CHES Health Education Specialist Instructional Design and Materials dkuttner@proaxis.com Be sure to register to vote!!! Then be sure to vote!!! ------------------------------ #1477 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:15:06 -0400 From: Tamara Lou Gallant Subject: Opinion Leaders: Jane Fonda/Miss America Excellent point that Health Educators are frequently the catalysts behind the promulgation of health promotion messages from public figures, etc. It is good health education practice to identify the *Opinion Leaders* who can influence the attitudes and consequently the behaviors in any community or target group, to educate those opinion leaders and bring them on board promulgating the messages! Go Jane, Go Miss America! That doesn't, however, dismiss the advantages of Health Education specialists (Health Educators!) becoming WELL known by the media and visible on rolodexes in every local, regional and national press room. Preparation for TV performance isn't part of RN or MD training either. If we lack that skill, then deligate or get educated. Perceived (or could have been perceived :)) ugliness hasn't stopped some of our adversaries! Go Health Educators! Tamara Lou Gallant, MPH University of Massachusetts Health Services Amherst, MA 01002-4310 413-577-5181 On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Dawn Graff-Haight wrote: > I agree with Margo's comment about the source of accurate, meaningful > health information from folks who aren't necessarily professionally > trained health educators. > > I'd like to point out that these people are getting their information from > somewhere. Could it be that their sources are HEALTH EDUCATORS? > > Let's continue to applaud and support those in the public eye who pick up > our cause and assist us in getting the word out. Jane Fonda reached more > people on Rosie O'Donnell last Thursday than I will in a lifetime. And > even if I was on Rosie to do my song and dance for Health Education, > because I'm NOT Jane Fonda, most folks would choose that time to get up > and go to the bathroom. > > Dawn Graff-Haight > Health Human Performance and Athletics > Linfield College > > 1-503-434-2641 > ------------------------------ #1478 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:25:11 -0500 From: "Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D." Subject: speaking of spokespersons for(?) health You can send an e-mail to: er@nbc.com >From: Donna Kuttner >Subject: speaking of spokespersons for(?) health > >Dear colleagues, >Last night my physician husband & I finally got around to watching the >taped version of last week's episode of one of the most watched TV >programs: ER. We were dismayed to see, at the end, the character, Dr. Mark >Green, lighting up and smoking with the newly hired desk clerk. YOU know >that these actors are not physicians. I know that. I am sure that MOST of >the public know as well. However, it is very visible product placement in >the hands of a health care role model on a very popular program. I would >like to contact NBC to complain. Do any of you have access to an address? >Interested in your responses: > >Donna Holberg Kuttner, PhD, CHES >Health Education Specialist >Instructional Design and Materials >dkuttner@proaxis.com > >Be sure to register to vote!!! >Then be sure to vote!!! > Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D. Home Page: http://131.230.221.136 HEDIR Home Page: http://131.230.221.136/HEDIR/Menu.html The International Electronic Journal of Health Education: http://131.230.221.136/iejhe/ ------------------------------ #1479 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:35:41 -0400 From: JDPierce Subject: Re: speaking of spokespersons for(?) health I think I would like to complain also. Please share the adress when you find it. ___________________________________________________________________ ___________ _ Subject: speaking of spokespersons for(?) health From: Donna Kuttner at Internet Date: 10/7/97 2:05 PM Dear colleagues, Last night my physician husband & I finally got around to watching the taped version of last week's episode of one of the most watched TV programs: ER. We were dismayed to see, at the end, the character, Dr. Mark Green, lighting up and smoking with the newly hired desk clerk. YOU know that these actors are not physicians. I know that. I am sure that MOST of the public know as well. However, it is very visible product placement in the hands of a health care role model on a very popular program. I would like to contact NBC to complain. Do any of you have access to an address? Interested in your responses: Donna Holberg Kuttner, PhD, CHES Health Education Specialist Instructional Design and Materials dkuttner@proaxis.com Be sure to register to vote!!! Then be sure to vote!!! ------------------------------ #1480 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:16:24 -0700 From: Dawn Graff-Haight Subject: Re: Celebrities delivering the message I wish I'd taped the Jane Fonda segment from Rosie O'Donnell so I could replay her statements to be sure that what I'm saying is accurate. I know that she said that kids needed to learn more than abstinence, and that the kids who were sexually active needed to have the knowledge and skills necessary to prevent prgnancy and spread of STDs. I also KNOW that she said we needed COMPREHENSIVE sexuality education programs. I BELIEVE she said that it needed to be delivered by competent health educators. (Excuse me for not being certain. I think that by the time she started advocating Comprehensive sexuality education, I was jumping up and down and cheering so loudly I didn't catch all the details of her message.) Dawn Graff-Haight Health Human Performance and Athletics Linfield College 1-503-434-2641 On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, MAHONEY, COLLEEN wrote: > This discussion regarding health messages and celebrities is > interesting. I have no trouble with celebrities assisting us in > getting health messages out -- as long as the messages are based on > accurate information I believe it can be very useful. In fact, a > strategy for health communication efforts is selecting a spokesperson > to deliver the message(s). > > However, I also think we need to caution the idea/belief that it can > be left up to the celebrities. Many physicians and nurses also serve > as spokespersons yet they do not have training in working with the > media, marketing etc. > > Bottom line -- we need to be advocates for our profession and > initiatives. We need to make sure future health educators have > training in social marketing and advocacy. To this day many > professionals (including those in the medical field) and most lay > people have no idea what health education is/ who health educators > are. Yes, our goal is getting the word out in hope that communities > and individuals will become healthier and it takes many types of > people and professions to advance that goal. But I would like to see > us in the forefront of such efforts; if we are not we may just > disappear. > > I'd be interested in knowing from those of you who saw Jane Fonda -- > did she mention health education/health educator? If so great! If > not..... > cmahoney@emerald.educ.kent.edu > Colleen Mahoney > Assistant Professor, Health Education > Coordinator, Center for Health Promotion > ACHVE Department, 316 White Hall > Kent State University > Kent OH 44242 > ------------------------------ #1481 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:26:46 -0700 From: "Susan L. Prows" Subject: SOPHE's Job Bank SOPHE's 48th Annual Meeting, November 7-9, in Indianapolis will feature its ever-popular JOB BANK as part of its meeting Resource Room. Both prospective employers and students/professionals looking for jobs can post their information in the Job Bank Directory free-of-charge! One does not need to be attending the Indy meeting or be a SOPHE member to participate in the exchange! Send 3 copies of your resume or job announcement no later than 10/31 (via email, fax or snail mail) to the address below. (No resumes or other info will be returned after the meeting.) Julie Timmins Society for Public Health Education 1015 15th St., NW, Suite 410 Washington, DC 20005 phone: 202/408-9804 fax: 202/408-9815 Email: sopheauld@aol.com ------------------------------ #1482 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 21:10:17 -0700 From: Donna Kuttner Subject: regarding the episode or ER Some of you asked me to forward this to the group. The email address for the program ER is as follows: er@nbc.com Someone posted the URL to me but I can't locate it at the moment. Will the original poster re-post? Thanks Donna Holberg Kuttner, PhD, CHES Health Education Specialist Instructional Design and Materials dkuttner@proaxis.com Be sure to register to vote!!! Then be sure to vote!!! ------------------------------ #1483 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 21:21:44 -0700 From: Donna Kuttner Subject: Sharon Dwyer said Donna, I think that you can reply to NBC about the ER episode two ways. If you go to the website http://www.nbc.com/email.html you can click on a link to ER to send an e-mail directly to er@mail.com which should also take you there directly. Hope this helps, sharon Margo suggested we contact our local networks who carry ER. I'll let you know if I get any response. Donna Donna Holberg Kuttner, PhD, CHES Health Education Specialist Instructional Design and Materials dkuttner@proaxis.com Be sure to register to vote!!! Then be sure to vote!!! ------------------------------ #1484 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:41:36 -0400 From: Kay Woodiel Subject: Re: speaking of spokespersons for(?) health Is it just me or does anyone else think that this response to the episode of ER make be a bit of an overreaction? I , too , am dismayed, even appalled, to see any health care professional smoking. Truth be know, I find it difficult to understand why anyone continues to smoke in light of all the information available.(That however is an entirely different issue). I think that we are forgetting that the "character" that this actor is playing is in a "dark hole" as the result of a great deal of personal trauma. I, for one, did not see a physician lighting up, but, rather a human being displaying a nasty behavior as a result of tremendous stress. Before we set out on a mission to become a "spokesperson" for health, we might be reminded of one of our important ethical issues - "blaming the victim." Mark Green's character, as we all are, is multi-dimensional, and is currently struggling with the balance of his wellness. Have we forgotten that his physical dimension (behaviorally represented by the cigarette) has been gravely affected by the emotional/psychological dimension. I do not want to preach, but am concerned that we miss opportunities to demonstrate compassion which ultimately affects the success of our mission. Kay Woodiel, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Health & Physical Education Millersville University Pucillo 116 Millersville, PA 17551 (717) 872-3537 email kwoodiel@marauder.millersv.edu On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Donna Kuttner wrote: > Dear colleagues, > Last night my physician husband & I finally got around to watching the > taped version of last week's episode of one of the most watched TV > programs: ER. We were dismayed to see, at the end, the character, Dr. Mark > Green, lighting up and smoking with the newly hired desk clerk. YOU know > that these actors are not physicians. I know that. I am sure that MOST of > the public know as well. However, it is very visible product placement in > the hands of a health care role model on a very popular program. I would > like to contact NBC to complain. Do any of you have access to an address? > Interested in your responses: > > Donna Holberg Kuttner, PhD, CHES > Health Education Specialist > Instructional Design and Materials > dkuttner@proaxis.com > > Be sure to register to vote!!! > Then be sure to vote!!! > ------------------------------ #1485 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:07:34 -0400 From: JDPierce Subject: Re[2]: speaking of spokespersons for(?) health I disagree..I see the tobacco companies finding a sneaky way in to reinforce lighting up as a way to "enjoy something, relax"..visual, reinforcement..very effective..especially in light of the major association of his character was quite positive until recently Judith Dwyer Pierce, EdD, CHES ___________________________________________________________________ ___________ _ Subject: Re: speaking of spokespersons for(?) health From: Kay Woodiel at Internet Date: 10/8/97 8:41 AM Is it just me or does anyone else think that this response to the episode of ER make be a bit of an overreaction? I , too , am dismayed, even appalled, to see any health care professional smoking. Truth be know, I find it difficult to understand why anyone continues to smoke in light of all the information available.(That however is an entirely different issue). I think that we are forgetting that the "character" that this actor is playing is in a "dark hole" as the result of a great deal of personal trauma. I, for one, did not see a physician lighting up, but, rather a human being displaying a nasty behavior as a result of tremendous stress. Before we set out on a mission to become a "spokesperson" for health, we might be reminded of one of our important ethical issues - "blaming the victim." Mark Green's character, as we all are, is multi-dimensional, and is currently struggling with the balance of his wellness. Have we forgotten that his physical dimension (behaviorally represented by the cigarette) has been gravely affected by the emotional/psychological dimension. I do not want to preach, but am concerned that we miss opportunities to demonstrate compassion which ultimately affects the success of our mission. Kay Woodiel, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Health & Physical Education Millersville University Pucillo 116 Millersville, PA 17551 (717) 872-3537 email kwoodiel@marauder.millersv.edu On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Donna Kuttner wrote: > Dear colleagues, > Last night my physician husband & I finally got around to watching the > taped version of last week's episode of one of the most watched TV > programs: ER. We were dismayed to see, at the end, the character, Dr. Mark > Green, lighting up and smoking with the newly hired desk clerk. YOU know > that these actors are not physicians. I know that. I am sure that MOST of > the public know as well. However, it is very visible product placement in > the hands of a health care role model on a very popular program. I would > like to contact NBC to complain. Do any of you have access to an address? > Interested in your responses: > > Donna Holberg Kuttner, PhD, CHES > Health Education Specialist > Instructional Design and Materials > dkuttner@proaxis.com > > Be sure to register to vote!!! > Then be sure to vote!!! > ------------------------------ #1486 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:20:40 CDT From: Jennifer Kramer Subject: ER & SMOKING Personally, I'd like to see no television/movie characters lighting up, but I am probably dreaming. However, it seems to me that ER has brought out some interesting life lessons in many of their episodes, and PERHAPS Dr. Green's smoking will turn into an educational tool about quitting. Granted, I am stretching here into the unknown minds of the writers, but it wouldn't surprise me if they somehow used the smoking thing for good in the end--maybe viewers will even emulate quitting smoking. In light of that, perhaps messages to ER could include such a suggestion because we can't undo the smoking already seen. Jenny Kramer, M.S. Community Health Specialist Hennepin County Community Health Department 525 Portland Ave. S. MC--963 Minneapolis, MN 55415-1569 jennifer.kramer@co.hennepin.mn.us ------------------------------ #1487 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:14:52 -0700 From: Sandra Smith Subject: Re: Smoking on ER--compassion or over reaction I disagree with Kay. Compassion is necessary and appropriate as you describe. However, I believe health professionals are held to a higher standard due to their influence. The message communicated when physicians smoke is that it must be OK afterall. When the physician hero in a popular TV program smokes that message is magnified and every real-life health professionals ability to influence healthy behavior is reduced. Sandra Smith Editor& Publisher, Beginnings A Practical Guide Through Your Pregnancy Practice Development Inc 2821 2nd Ave #1601 Seattle WA 98121 206-441-7046 sandras@u.washington.edu ------------------------------ #1488 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:35:39 -0400 From: "Michael J. Ludwig" Subject: Re: speaking of spokespersons for(?) health JDPierce wrote: > I disagree..I see the tobacco companies finding a sneaky way in to > reinforce > lighting up as a way to "enjoy something, relax"..visual, > reinforcement..very > effective..especially in light of the major association of his character > was > quite positive until recently I too disagree--with the above disagreement. While I am the first one to point out that the tobacco companies' CEOs are little more than "respectable" drug dealers in dark suits, I hesitate to find conspiracy behind every instance of tobacco use in the media. Does one support artistic freedom even if it putatively supports a behavior one thinks is "unhealthy"? Is it possible to expunge the media of all references to "negative behavior"? I believe Dr. Woodiel raises a valid point. Rather than censor NBC and/or the writers, might we more profitably promote dialogue with our students and clients around this issue? The ability of youth to critically engage the media will not be promoted by pious condemnations from health professionals. In fact, there is some suggestion that all the attention tobacco has drawn of late, re: the proposed settlement, has been helpful in generating youth interest in this dastardly product--sort of a "forbidden fruit" attractiveness. The character of Mark Green is indeed in a "dark hole." And we would be remiss NOT to admit that tobacco does enable one to "relax and enjoy," albeit, at a high cost. Let's get all the information into the light of day--which does not in any way excuse tobacco companies for the marketing, particularly to youth, of a deadly product. I'm all for enforcing age limits on tobacco sales and most other provisions of the as yet approved "tobacco deal," but hesitate to see conspiracy and do not believe that behavioral purity (no tobacco use portrayed in the media) can or should be a goal of health education. -- Michael J. Ludwig 803.323.4687 (office) 803.366.1545 (home) 803.323.2124 (FAX) HPE Dept. 111 Peabody Building Winthrop University, Rock Hill, SC 29733 "Expect nothing. Live frugally / On surprise." --Alice Walker ------------------------------ #1489 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:45:18 -0400 From: SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA AHEC Subject: ER Smoking I agree with Kay Woodiel re: the overreaction to the character of Mark Green smoking on the TV show, "ER". If you recall in some of the previous episodes, they portrayed him as a runner. I don't remember seeing him smoke in previous episodes, although some of the other characters have. My take on this scene is that they're simply portraying him as acting out of character, in several ways, in response to his recent trauma. I would imagine most people would get that - it's hardly subtle. Call me naive, but I would credit the writers, directors, actors, and producers with the idea for the smoking scene, more so than the tobacco companies. The particular tobacco product (I don't recall if the name brand was shown) chosen may indeed reflect $$ influence. I don't mean to imply that tobacco companies do not have powerful influences in many facets of American life, but we all know that some of the brightest and most talented people in Hollywood are not exactly paragons of virtue. If we can frame tobacco use in terms of moral behavior...that's another day, another discussion. ------------------------------ #1490 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:42:57 -0500 From: David Remmert Subject: ER Hey everyone: I'm perplexed. I realize this show is very popular, and provides some sort of a vehicle for the promotion of smoking behavior, but to act as if it is something that we don't see everywhere we look in society is a mistake. Let's be honest, physicians do smoke - despite their knowledge. At one time, and I may be wrong, but I think physicians smoked at a rate greater than the general society. For that matter, nurses have been known for smoking at greater rates than general society. This may not be true any longer, but the point is there is so much promotion of this behavior throughout society as it is, that seeing one tv show with one character smoking is not doing any more harm than what is already going on in society. Thanks, David M.Remmert, M.P.H., C.H.E.S. -- dremmert@prairienet.org ------------------------------ #1491 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:55:34 -0400 From: Jennifer Karpinsky Subject: educator responsibility I have a question for those of you involved in higher education. Hoepfully you can give me some input if you have been in a similar situation. I am teaching a graduate level stress management workshop. I have a foreign student in my class. After the second class she waited after class to speak with me and she said that she didn't understand. She said the words were too hard for her and she stopped taking notes. What should she do? I told her she should read the chapters that are somewhat relevant to the topics prior to class and also to get with other classmates to go over her notes. I explained that I don't lend my overhead lectures out, but that the notes are very important as not all are in our textbook. Now having read her first assignment, it is clear that her english skills are very rough. The university has tested our foreign applicants to ensure that they have a good grasp of english. My question to you, is what is my role as an educator? She needs the class for her program, but it appears that she is in over her head. Advice? ------------------------------ #1492 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:02:51 -0400 From: "Mary E. Arnold" Subject: ER/smoking comment At the supreme risk of becoming "flame" fodder..... as an avid viewer of the television program ER, I too saw the episode and while it bothered me to see Dr. Green smoking, I was familiar enough with the story line to understand why he was suddenly smoking. Toward the end of last season he was brutally assaulted in a hospital bathroom by an unknown assailant after a gang member died following treatment in the ER. He has previously been a mild mannered, soft spoken, warm hearted, valiant individual. With the stress from a divorce, separation from a daughter, a failed romance, the assault, the work in the ER, etc. he has become an acid tongued, gun toting, angst filled young man...... the smoking is consistant with the physical neglect and decline in his emotional status that I think NBC wants to depict. It's a wonderful example of what we as health educators teach about the ravages of a stress filled life. His character is one of the most popular in the ensemble cast, and I think NBC is going to focus on his supreme state of depression and frustration with his inability to deal with the stress of the past year ( I wonder what HIS score is on the Holmes Social Readjustment Scale!!!!!! I suspect somewhere in the 500's ) leading to a major illness or incident as a result. THAT'S when they can pull a rabbit out of their hat and focus on not just the smoking but the whole need to deal with the stresses in our life appropriately so that we don't turn to poor coping mechanisms and self-destructive behaviors. Am I too far off base here? Mary Arnold CburgMom@aol.com ------------------------------ #1493 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:13:21 +0900 From: Lisa Reisberg Subject: Re: ER Last week I had the pleasure of meeting with Neil Baer, writer/producer for ER, and we discussed the upcoming "smoking" theme. I don't want to ruin it for anyone, but the storyline will involve having Dr Green start smoking as a way to relieve stress (wrong reason, but there is never a right reason anyway). He will become addicted and eventually enter a smoking cessation program. The general theme that Neil is presenting is thus: Smoking is never a good solution to life's problems, it's very easy to become addicted to smoking, and it's very difficult to quit. Hope this helps clarifies the concerns expressed. Lisa =========================================== Lisa Reisberg, Director Division of Public Education American Academy of Pediatrics 141 Northwest Pt Blvd Elk Grove Village, IL 60007 Phone: 847/981-7873 FAX: 847/228-7320 "Stand up for what is right, even if you're standing alone." ------------------------------ #1494 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:20:56 -0400 From: Elaine Lawson Subject: Here, here Mary is exactly correct. E.R. is not promoting smoking, but rather placing smoking in a category of socially unacceptable behavior. We don't write to T.V. stations when we see an actor portraying a professional who is committing a crime in order to tell a story. I think this argument might have merit if the "old" Mark were to smoke and the other E.R. characters found it acceptable and normal; but the writers are showing the sharp contrast of the change in the character. I see Mark transforming into a villain as a result of the recent tragic episodes in his life. Think of the cigarettes as a "black hat." Elaine Lawson, M.S. Institute of Medicine ------------------------------ #1495 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:45:27 -0500 From: Sara Long Anderson Subject: Re: Here, here I agree. Even though I am an ER junky, I've learned over the years that the writers (or whoever) usually have characters do something for a reason that we (the audience) find out about over the course of the TV viewing season. I think it's called character development. ---------- > From: Elaine Lawson > To: HEDIR-L@SIU.EDU > Subject: Here, here > Date: Wednesday, October 08, 1997 9:20 AM > > Mary is exactly correct. E.R. is not promoting smoking, but rather placing > smoking in a category of socially unacceptable behavior. We don't write to > T.V. stations when we see an actor portraying a professional who is > committing a crime in order to tell a story. I think this argument might > have merit if the "old" Mark were to smoke and the other E.R. characters > found it acceptable and normal; but the writers are showing the sharp > contrast of the change in the character. > > I see Mark transforming into a villain as a result of the recent tragic > episodes in his life. Think of the cigarettes as a "black hat." > > Elaine Lawson, M.S. > Institute of Medicine ------------------------------ #1496 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:55:02 EST From: Srijana Bajracharya Subject: "comment" closure Now that the discussion has taken different turn, I want to put my "comment" to rest by saying, I did not mean to undermine the value of celebrities or any spokesperson who are speaking on behalf of us as long as they are accurate and they mention us "Health Educators." Jane Fonda's interview was good. However, I did not see her mentioning health educators or the health education profession at that time. I may have missed it if she did. I agree that we should use anybody who can be our advocate and the message does not have to come from health educators only. I felt that Jane Fonda took the words out of my mouth giving the emphasis on delayed sexual involvement. I was raised in the culture where I did not have to deal with many things that the teens here have to deal with. I did not have to prove my sexuality or popularity, since nobody had to. Individuals like Jane Fonda endorsing such issues is extemely important to me because I know I may not be able sell this idea easily. After switching my career from fisheries biologist to health educator, I guess I want to see that I made a right choice. I am simply talking about the identity of our profession. Are we representing our profession well? Are we given the credit we deserve? Are we the professionals connected with prevention activities? If you look at my original comment, I had other examples than just the celebrities. All I wanted to say was the health educators should be up front more when the discussion is about the disease prevention/health promotion. Thank you all. Srijana Srijana M. Bajracharya, Ph.D. Associate Professor HPER Division University of Maine at Presque Isle Presque Isle, ME 04769 Bajra@polaris.umpi.maine.edu OR Srijana@Maine.Maine.Edu ------------------------------ #1497 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:06:52 -0700 From: Stephanie Wolf Subject: Re: ER -Reply Not to say whether ER Dr. Green's character smoking was right or wrong (even though smoking is, of course, well, don't get me started), but here are a few things to consider. If, indeed, the show is supposed to be "realistic" and the public forms "bonds" with the characters, theoretically, you'd want their (health and other) behaviors to mirror what the person would do if he/she were real. Need I remind anyone else who works in the medicine end of health ed (like me) that doctors eat oreos for lunch, some greater than the general population number of nurses smoke and are obese, smoking areas at hospitals have just as many employees hanging and puffing as patients, the cafeterias serve mainly high-fat food (healthy food is "too expensive and no one eats it," I was told), everyone is "too busy" to exercise away stress, fat or other risk factors, anetshesiologists have the highest rate of drug addictions of all docs, the divorce rate of doctors is higher than the general population, usually only one 3-hour lecture is given on nutrition in med school, and on and on. Just because someone is "a doctor" doesn't mean they aren't people first, along with nasty health behaviors like everyone else. It doesn't give them any excuse, but it also doesn't mean that a portrayal of a doctor TV character in a "realistic situaltion" is to be criticized either. I, of course, am perfect. Well, ok, sometimes I don't drink enough water. Sue me. Stephanie L. Wolf, MPH Rsearch Coordinator Section of Hepatology Oregon Health Sciences University Portland, OR ------------------------------ #1498 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:17:26 -0400 From: JDPierce Subject: Re[2]: ER You are hopefully correct in seeing this as ultimately worthy. I've been a bit jaded about these matters since the research on the use of Joe Camel in the Weekly Reader was published and the possible link to his frequenting the pages with the fact that a major tobacco company owned the company that owned the company. Thanks ___________________________________________________________________ ___________ _ Subject: Re: ER From: Lisa Reisberg at Internet Date: 10/8/97 9:13 AM Last week I had the pleasure of meeting with Neil Baer, writer/producer for ER, and we discussed the upcoming "smoking" theme. I don't want to ruin it for anyone, but the storyline will involve having Dr Green start smoking as a way to relieve stress (wrong reason, but there is never a right reason anyway). He will become addicted and eventually enter a smoking cessation program. The general theme that Neil is presenting is thus: Smoking is never a good solution to life's problems, it's very easy to become addicted to smoking, and it's very difficult to quit. Hope this helps clarifies the concerns expressed. Lisa =========================================== Lisa Reisberg, Director Division of Public Education American Academy of Pediatrics 141 Northwest Pt Blvd Elk Grove Village, IL 60007 Phone: 847/981-7873 FAX: 847/228-7320 "Stand up for what is right, even if you're standing alone." ------------------------------ #1499 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:25:07 +0900 From: Lisa Reisberg Subject: Smoking Cessation Program for Teens Does anyone have information on an ongoing smoking cessation program for high school students (ie, a program where teens meet weekly or monthly on an ongoing basis)? Thank you very much. Lisa =========================================== Lisa Reisberg, Director Division of Public Education American Academy of Pediatrics 141 Northwest Pt Blvd Elk Grove Village, IL 60007 Phone: 847/981-7873 FAX: 847/228-7320 "Stand up for what is right, even if you're standing alone." ------------------------------ #1500 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:31:34 -0400 From: Kay Woodiel Subject: Re: ER Bravo Lisa, thanks for the clarification. They have certainly dealt with many sensitive health issues in the past, presenting both sides - and we can expect no less of them now. Kay Woodiel, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Health & Physical Education Millersville University Pucillo 116 Millersville, PA 17551 (717) 872-3537 email kwoodiel@marauder.millersv.edu On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Lisa Reisberg wrote: > Last week I had the pleasure of meeting with Neil Baer, writer/producer for > ER, and we discussed the upcoming "smoking" theme. I don't want to ruin it > for anyone, but the storyline will involve having Dr Green start smoking as > a way to relieve stress (wrong reason, but there is never a right reason > anyway). He will become addicted and eventually enter a smoking cessation > program. The general theme that Neil is presenting is thus: Smoking is > never a good solution to life's problems, it's very easy to become addicted > to smoking, and it's very difficult to quit. Hope this helps clarifies the > concerns expressed. Lisa > > =========================================== > Lisa Reisberg, Director > Division of Public Education > American Academy of Pediatrics > 141 Northwest Pt Blvd > Elk Grove Village, IL 60007 > > Phone: 847/981-7873 > FAX: 847/228-7320 > > > "Stand up for what is right, even if you're standing alone." > ------------------------------ #1501 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:34:56 +0900 From: Lisa Reisberg Subject: ER-related In view of the recent discussion about ER and the influence of the media, I thought I'd post (re-post?) the following information: ANNOUNCING: NATIONAL MEDIA EDUCATION CONFERENCE (Formerly the National Media Literacy Conference) June 28-July 1, 1998 Colorado Springs, Colorado "A Paradigm for Public Health" The health and well-being of our children is dramatically influenced by images and messages conveyed by the media. Professionals and parents have an enormous stake in ensuring that the media's influence on our nation's youth be positive. This can be accomplished through media education, which includes development of critical thinking and viewing skills, and offering creative alternatives to media consumption. If our nation is to reach its goal of having a healthier, more productive society in the next millennium, we must move media education into schools, homes and communities. SPECIAL INTEREST TRACKS 1. Prevention and Public Health: Tobacco, Alcohol, Illicit Drugs; Violence; Sexual Behavior; Nutritional Issues; Self-concept and Identity; and Safety 2. Classroom and Non-school Learning: New Technologies, Methods and Activities 3. Families: Strategies for Parents and Children 4. News, Media and Democracy: Citizenship Skills for an Information Age 5. Creative Community: The Role of Writers, Producers, Directors and Executives in Media Industries 6. Diversity: Representation of Gender, Racism, Sexism, Ageism in the Media 7. Neighborhoods: The Role of Religious and Community Leaders WHO SHOULD ATTEND Members of the public health, medical, and prevention communities Classroom teachers K-12 and other educators Parent and child media advocates Religious and community leaders Academic researchers and leaders Journalists and media professionals Organized and Hosted by the PARTNERSHIP FOR MEDIA EDUCATION, a collaboration of: American Academy of Pediatrics Center for Media Literacy Media Literacy Project at Clark University Center for Substance Abuse Prevention/SAMHSA FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT ATTENDING OR PRESENTING, CONTACT: Conference Office 2121 S. Oneida Street, Suite 325 Denver, CO 80224-2552 Ph: 303 756-8380 Fax: 303 759-8861 E-mail: NMEC98@aol.com Web Site: www.ConferenceOffice.com/NMEC MARK YOUR CALENDAR AND PLAN TO ATTEND! =========================================== Lisa Reisberg, Director Division of Public Education American Academy of Pediatrics 141 Northwest Pt Blvd Elk Grove Village, IL 60007 Phone: 847/981-7873 FAX: 847/228-7320 "Stand up for what is right, even if you're standing alone." ------------------------------ #1502 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:26:07 -0600 From: Dr Dale Hardt Subject: ER? It seems to me that we have avoided a most necessary question. Is it our responsibility to help our students make informed decisions regarding smoking behaviors OR are they only 'informed' if they select the behavior we identify as 'THE' appropriate behavior. It appears logical that decision making should be based on knowledge and observation of both good and bad. Just a few thoughts... ------------------------------ #1503 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:34:45 -0400 From: "Mary E. Arnold" Subject: Jane Fonda and the role model website Jane Fonda along with Bill Cosby, Joanne Woodward, Robin Williams, and others have endorsed a website to promote ROLE MODELS for youths and adults to help in the process of patterning their lives. There is a mission statement for the site that I think is impressive. The URL is : http://www.newsltr.com/rolemodel/ Mary Arnold CburgMom@aol.com ------------------------------ #1504 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:30:56 -0500 From: speterso@NOTES.MDACC.TMC.EDU Subject: ER I forwarded some of the comments to my colleagues regarding Dr. Mark Green's new habit on "ER", and wanted to share the response that I received: Whatever the rationale that was presented for having Dr. Green begin smoking, it is both inaccurate and offensive. First of all, over 90% of smoking initiation begins in the teenage years. Almost no adults over the age of 19 or 20 begin to smoke. Therefore, having Dr. Green adopt smoking as a means of dealing with overwhelming stress is an inaccurate depiction of adult coping behaviors. Secondly, this delivers an unacceptable message regarding physician role modeling and personal behavior. While there are impaired physicians, most of the behaviors falling into this category involve some sort of licit or illicit substance abuse (excluding tobacco). There is a national effort underway to disseminate the Agency For Health Care Policy and Research Smoking Cessation Clinical Practice Guideline. These efforts by the AHCPR are parallel by others from the National Cancer Institute and various medical and other health care practitioner professional societies. The gist of all of these efforts is to inculcate a standard of practice in which health care professionals deliver advice to quit on every visit in which a patient who smokes is seen. There is no reason that ER physicians are exempt from these guidelines, and their own personal behavior as role models is critically important. National data show that physicians as a professional group have one of the lowest smoking prevelance rates, perhaps 10% or less, and medical students smoke at a rate of only 1 or 2 percent. Finally, lest anyone be naive, the tobacco industry is most eager to support the depiction of popular television and movie figures as smokers, and many payments for same have been reported in the press. For all of these reasons and more, perhaps Lisa Reisberg could go back to the Producers/Writers/Directors of ER and have them revise the planned story line. Make Dr. Green come to his senses rapidly and without enduring addiction. Let him see a lung cancer patient , or an emphysema patient or someone with serious cardiovascular disease dying from his/her disease, and have Dr. Green do some professional role modeling to the vast ER audience. This is a plea to abort this charade. We'd rather see Dr. Green in psychotherapy any day. ------------------------------ #1505 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:44:40 -0400 From: Jack Osman Subject: Re: ER? At 12:26 PM 10/8/97 -0600, Dr Dale Hardt wrote: >It seems to me that we have avoided a most necessary question. Is it our >responsibility to help our students make informed decisions regarding >smoking behaviors OR are they only 'informed' if they select the behavior we >identify as 'THE' appropriate behavior. It appears logical that decision >making should be based on knowledge and observation of both good and bad. > >Just a few thoughts... > Good point, Doc. Still ... after all these years ... one of my favorite health education articles was done by Robert Russell, J of School Health, May, 1963 (that's right 1963!) "Are Health Educators 'Warriors Against Pleasure'?" Check it out -- 34 years later and I believe he's right-on. Jack D. Osman Towson University ------------------------------ #1506 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:56:19 -0400 From: Ping Hu Subject: Re: educator responsibility Jennifer, I'd like to share my experience of being a foreign student. I came to the US and started my MS program in Health Education at Western Illinois University in 1992. I still remember what my very first semester was like - a nightmare! I could barely understand what the instructor was talking about in the classroom even though my English level was far beyond the admission requirement. But that was based on written tests. For a new foreign student, listening comprehension is the biggest barrier. Fortunately, my instructors MADE copies of their lecture notes for me...and they helped me overcome my language barrier...now I am teaching at the university! I have greatly appreciated those who helped me during my first few semesters. I would say without their help (giving me lecture notes and encouragements, spending extra time explaining things to me, etc.), I wouldn't have been in my current position. To me, what an educator does impacts the life of the learner. I wish you could re-consider your "don't lend my overhead lectures out" policy and help your foreign student! Of course, the student should read the chapter and materials related to the topic before and after the class, copy notes from classmates, tape record the lecture, ask questions, and spend all of his/her time studying (that's what I did!) ... I remember, a two-page article summary and reaction paper would take me a whole week to write...but I survived, succeeded, and became a health educator. I want to take this opportunity to thank all who have helped me. Thank you all... At 09:55 AM 10/8/97 -0400, you wrote: >I have a question for those of you involved in higher education. Hoepfully >you can give me some input if you have been in a similar situation. > >I am teaching a graduate level stress management workshop. I have a >foreign student in my class. After the second class she waited after class >to speak with me and she said that she didn't understand. She said the >words were too hard for her and she stopped taking notes. What should she >do? > >I told her she should read the chapters that are somewhat relevant to the >topics prior to class and also to get with other classmates to go over her >notes. I explained that I don't lend my overhead lectures out, but that >the notes are very important as not all are in our textbook. > >Now having read her first assignment, it is clear