#2226
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 07:39:36 -0600
From:    "Larry Laufman, EdD" 
Subject: FYI - FW: Thomas Edison State College - New Health Distance Degre e

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The program described below may be of interest.

Larry Laufman, Ed.D.
Baylor College of Medicine
One Baylor Plaza - SCUR 924
Houston, TX, 77030  USA
E-mail:  llaufman@bcm.tmc.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: Virtual University Gazette [mailto:vug@bangkok.digi-net.com]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 1998 8:24 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thomas Edison State College - New Health Distance Degree
http://www.tesc.edu
------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas Edison State College, Trenton, NJ, announces its
13th degree: the Bachelor of Science in Health Sciences
offered in partnership with
the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey
(UMDNJ). The program is specifically geared toward
advancing and broadening the
skills of health-related professionals prepared at the
associate degree/certificate level. The College already
offers 12 undergraduate degrees which may be completed
through a combination of independent study or on-line
courses, tests, portfolios, credit for courses taken at
work, transfer and other means. (Thanks to Linda Holt,
Associate Vice President for College Relations,
Lholt@call.tesc.edu.)

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#2227
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:28:04 EST
From:    Sharon Thompson 
Subject: Position on SC Coast

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Please note the following faculty position:

ASSISTANT PROFESSOR OF HEALTH PROMOTION:  Coastal Carolina
University, School of Education and Graduate Studies, announces a
full-time tenure-track position beginning August 1999.

QUALIFICATIONS:  Earned Doctorate, ABD minimum, in Public Health or
Health Promotion, evidence of scholarly productivity, and a wellness
lifestyle that reflects the philosophy of the program.  CHES
certification and computer technology skills are preferred.

RESPONSIBILITIES:  Undergraduate instruction in health promotion will
be selected from, but not limited to, personal and community health,
planning, implementation, and evaluation of health programs, alcohol
and other substances, environmental health, and epidemiology.  The
successful candidate will also serve as a faculty adviser for
undergraduate health majors and supervise health field experiences.

LOCATION:  Coastal Carolina University is a public, primarily
undergraduate institution with an enrollment of approximately 4,500
students and over 200 faculty located between Conway and Myrtle
Beach, SC.

TO APPLY:  Applicants should send a letter of application, current
vita, transcript, evidence of CHES certification, and three letters
of recommendation to:  Office of the Dean, School of Education and
Graduate Studies, Coastal Carolina University, PO Box 261954, Conway,
SC  29528-6054.  Applications must be postmarked by January 31, 1999.
Coastal Carolina University is an Equal Opportunity, Affirmative
Action.

To view the Coastal Carolina University WEB site:
www.coastal.edu

To view the Coastal Carolina University Health Promotion WEB site:
 www.coastal.edu/education/programs/health/Health.htm.

For more information, feel free to e-mail me.
Sharon Thompson
_____________________________________________________________________
Sharon H. Thompson, Ed.D., CHES
Assistant Professor of Health
School of Education                   FAX:   803-349-2940
Coastal Carolina University           Phone:  803-349-2635
PO Box 261954                         e-mail: thompson@coastal.edu
Conway, SC 29526
_____________________________________________________________________

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#2228
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:15:12 -0500
From:    Isabel Burk 
Subject: new resource

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FYI, An inexpensive, valuable resource--available for $3 from the
Violence Policy Center

Who Dies? A Look at Firearms Death and Injury in America

Who Dies? is published twice yearly by the Violence
Policy Center. This publication offers a demographic
breakdown of the latest trends in firearm-related
injuries and deaths in the U.S. as well as an
examination of the rising economic burden placed on
trauma care systems that treat victims of firearms
violence. The report is designed to be used by the
press, policymakers, and the general public for
user-friendly access to the most pertinent statistics on
gun violence in America. (1997, 24 pages, $3.00)
http://www.vpc.org

Violence Policy Center
1350 Connecticut Avenue, NW, Suite825,
Washington, DC, 20036
(202) 822-8200
 Fax(202) 822-8205


--
Isabel Burk, M.S., CHES
The Health Network
11 Adam Place
New City, NY  10956
(914) 638-3569          fax: (914) 638-1928
E-mail:  iburk@idt.net

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#2229
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:48:26 -0500
From:    Isabel Burk 
Subject: ATOD resource

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FYI, excellent resource:

Yesterday I got the latest (October 1998) issue of the National
Institute of Justice Journal. This issue is a must have! The cover story
is "Addiction is a Brain Disease--and it Matters" by Dr. Alan Leshner,
director of NIDA, and it is a clear, succinct, readable, 4 page summary
of the very latest info. on addiction. It would be ideal to photocopy
and give to health professionals, graduate students, legislators,
prevention specialists, parents; in fact anyone who needs to understand
more about addiction.

In addition, this issue has an intriguing short article "Alcohol and
Homicide in the United States, 1934-1995, that correlates the
relationship between alcohol consumption and violence, including an
excellent chart.

The National Institute of Justice Journal is free.  Subscribe by
e-mailing your subscription request with your mailing address to:
askncjrs@ncjrs.org

Visit their website: www.ncjrs.org

--
Isabel Burk, M.S., CHES
The Health Network
11 Adam Place
New City, NY  10956
(914) 638-3569          fax: (914) 638-1928
E-mail:  iburk@idt.net

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#2230
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:09:51 -0500
From:    "Michael J. Ludwig" 
Subject: Re: Position on SC Coast

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Sharon Thompson wrote:

> Please note the following faculty position:
>
> QUALIFICATIONS:  Earned Doctorate, ABD minimum, in Public Health or
> Health Promotion, evidence of scholarly productivity, and a wellness
> lifestyle that reflects the philosophy of the program.  CHES
> certification and computer technology skills are preferred.

Wow!  Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the first job announcementthat
states applicants possess a "wellness lifestyle"?  What if an
applicant's definition of wellness doesn't fit the search committee's
definition?  What if the search committee can't agree on what constitutes
a wellness lifestyle?  Does a new clause need to be added to
non-discrimination
policies? (e.g. "Coastal Carolina does not discriminate on the basis of
wellness lifestyle...")

Don't get me wrong, promoting health and wellness is my chosen profession
but am I the only who is a tad bit squeamish about REQUIRING IT (however
defined)?

I look forward to other's point of view on this one.

--
Michael J. Ludwig
Assistant Professor
Hofstra University
Department of Health Professions & Family Studies
hprmjl@hofstra.edu or ludwigm@accesshub.net
Voice: 516.463.5885 Fax: 516.463.4810

"America why are your libraries full of tears?"
  -Allen Ginsberg

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#2231
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:46:53 GMT
From:    "MAHONEY, COLLEEN" 
Subject: theology and sexuality

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I hope everyone had a nice thanksgiving!

Thanks to those of you who responded to my request for articles
regarding pastoral theology and  sexuality!  Just so you know, I
had put out the request to gather further information for an
individual who teaches a pastoral theology course for the
Truett Theological Seminary at Baylor University.  He wants to
improve upon his coverage of the issue of sexuality and found
my name while cruising the web.  Of course it was enlightening to
know that when one searches for the word "sex" my name shows up!

Anyhow, several listserv members asked that I share the information
received so I am including it here.

(1) Books:
"Embracing the exile," by John Fortunata (addresses Catholicism,
AIDS and gay issues)

"Sacrament of sexuality: The spirituality and psychology of sex," by
M. Kelsey & B. Kelsey.  MA:  Element Books Limited.

"Sexuality and the Sacred: Sources for Theological Reflection",
edited by J.B. Nelson and S.P. Longfellow (1994), Westminster/John
Knox.  S.C. Conklin reviews this book in SIECUS Report, 23(1), 27.

Goodson, P., & Conklin, S.C.  (1998).  Sexuality education for
clergy in theological schools and seminaries.  In P. Koch & D. Weis
(Eds.)., Sexuality in America: Understanding our sexual values and
behavior (pp. 267-270).  New York: Continuum.

Conklin. S.C.  (1997).  Sexuality education in seminaries and
theological schools: Perceptions of faculty advocates regarding
curriculum and approaches.  In J.W. Maddock (Ed.), Sexuality
education in postsecondary and professional training settings (pp.
143-174).  New York:  The Haworth Press.

Goodson, P., & Conklin, S.C.  (1997).  Professional sexuality
education of selected seminary students.  In R.T. Francoeur (Eds.).,
The international encyclopedia of sexuality, (vol. III, pp.
1641-1644).  New York:  Continuum.

(2) Articles:

SIECUS Report, 26(1) (October/November 1997), entire issue.

Conklin, S.C. & Goodson, P. (1998).  Sexuality education for clergy:
Empirical data, current efforts, future needs.  Journal of Sex
Education and Therapy, 23(1), 33-41.

Conklin, S.C. (1997).  Sexuality education in seminaries and
theological schools: Perceptions of faculty advocates regarding
curriculum and approaches.  Journal of Psychology and Human
Sexuality, 9(3/4), 143-174.  (has an extensive bibliography).

Conklin, S.C.  (1997).  Clergy as sexuality educators:  What are
seminaries doing? What do they need to do?  SIECUS Report, 26(1),
13-16.

Conklin, S.C.  (1995).  Sexuality education of clergy in seminaries
and theological schools: Recommended readings and texts.  Journal of
Sex Education and Therapy, 21(1), 22-35.

(3)  Other Resources and Contacts:
Sexuality Information and Education Council of the U.S. (SIECUS),
http://www.siecus.org  (212) 819-9770

Society for the Scientific Study of Sexuality (319) 895-8407

Authors James Nelson, Bob Francoeur, or Julian Slowinski

Journal of Religion and Health
cmahoney@emerald.educ.kent.edu
Colleen Mahoney, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor, Health Education
Director, Center for Health Promotion
ACHVE Department, 316 White Hall
Kent State University
Kent OH 44242
330-672-7977; Fax 330-672-3063

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#2232
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 07:55:52 -0800
From:    Susan Prows 
Subject: Re: Position on SC Coast

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I have seen several similar clauses/requirements written into  job descriptions
for faculty in health promotion and education. To me, it sounds like "code" for
something like, "If you are overweight, you need not apply here."

Susan L. Prows, PhD, MPH, CHES
Assistant Professor
Department of Public Health
319 Waldo Hall
Oregon State University
Corvallis, Oregon  97331

phone: 541/737-3838
fax: 541/737-4001

New email address:  susan.prows@orst.edu




> ----------
> From:         Michael J. Ludwig
> Reply To:     Michael J. Ludwig
> Sent:         Tuesday, December 1, 1998 7:09 AM
> To:   HEDIR-L@SIU.EDU
> Subject:      Re: Position on SC Coast
>
> ** Advertising a Job? http://www.kittle.siu.edu/jobs.htm
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>
> Sharon Thompson wrote:
>
> > Please note the following faculty position:
> >
> > QUALIFICATIONS:  Earned Doctorate, ABD minimum, in Public Health or
> > Health Promotion, evidence of scholarly productivity, and a wellness
> > lifestyle that reflects the philosophy of the program.  CHES
> > certification and computer technology skills are preferred.
>
> Wow!  Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the first job announcementthat
> states applicants possess a "wellness lifestyle"?  What if an
> applicant's definition of wellness doesn't fit the search committee's
> definition?  What if the search committee can't agree on what constitutes
> a wellness lifestyle?  Does a new clause need to be added to
> non-discrimination
> policies? (e.g. "Coastal Carolina does not discriminate on the basis of
> wellness lifestyle...")
>
> Don't get me wrong, promoting health and wellness is my chosen profession
> but am I the only who is a tad bit squeamish about REQUIRING IT (however
> defined)?
>
> I look forward to other's point of view on this one.
>
> --
> Michael J. Ludwig
> Assistant Professor
> Hofstra University
> Department of Health Professions & Family Studies
> hprmjl@hofstra.edu or ludwigm@accesshub.net
> Voice: 516.463.5885 Fax: 516.463.4810
>
> "America why are your libraries full of tears?"
>   -Allen Ginsberg
>
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>

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#2233
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:22:15 -0600
From:    "Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D." 
Subject: Re: Position on SC Coast

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Perhaps we should first ask Sharon Thompson what this phrase means...I
agree with Michael that it could be misinterpreted by a variety of groups.
Sharon, can you shed some light on it?

>
>I have seen several similar clauses/requirements written into  job
descriptions for faculty in health promotion and education. To me, it
sounds like "code" for something like, "If you are overweight, you need not
apply here."
>
>Susan L. Prows, PhD, MPH, CHES
>Assistant Professor
>Department of Public Health
>319 Waldo Hall
>Oregon State University
>Corvallis, Oregon  97331

>> From:         Michael J. Ludwig
>> Reply To:     Michael J. Ludwig
>> Sent:         Tuesday, December 1, 1998 7:09 AM
>> To:   HEDIR-L@SIU.EDU
>> Subject:      Re: Position on SC Coast
>>
>> Sharon Thompson wrote:
>>
>> > Please note the following faculty position:
>> >
>> > QUALIFICATIONS:  Earned Doctorate, ABD minimum, in Public Health or
>> > Health Promotion, evidence of scholarly productivity, and a wellness
>> > lifestyle that reflects the philosophy of the program.  CHES
>> > certification and computer technology skills are preferred.
>>
>> Wow!  Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the first job announcementthat
>> states applicants possess a "wellness lifestyle"?  What if an
>> applicant's definition of wellness doesn't fit the search committee's
>> definition?  What if the search committee can't agree on what constitutes
>> a wellness lifestyle?  Does a new clause need to be added to
>> non-discrimination
>> policies? (e.g. "Coastal Carolina does not discriminate on the basis of
>> wellness lifestyle...")
>>
>> Don't get me wrong, promoting health and wellness is my chosen profession
>> but am I the only who is a tad bit squeamish about REQUIRING IT (however
>> defined)?
>>
>> I look forward to other's point of view on this one.

__________________________________________
Mark J. Kittleson, Ph.D.
Professor, Health Education
Home Page:  http://www.kittle.siu.edu
HEDIR Home Page:  http://www.hedir.siu.edu/hedir/
The International Electronic Journal of Health Education:
http://www.iejhe.siu.edu/iejhe/
Phone: 618.453.1841  FAX: 618.453.1829

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#2234
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:27:14 -0600
From:    Thomas.Davis@UNI.EDU
Subject: position at SC Coastal

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The announcement sounds to me like a clear message that they don't want to hire
a sedentary chain smoker with multiple drunk driving convictions.  Do any of
the rest of you?

Tom Davis/University of Northern Iowa

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#2235
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 08:58:42 PST
From:    Todd Wilson 
Subject: "wellness lifestyle"

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I agree with Susan. Whether it is intended or not (but most likely was),
the clause is a "read between the lines" statement intended to weed out
all of those who do not fit a preconceived idea of a "wellness
lifestyle."

And of course, short of checking medical records or taking hair samples,
the only criteria one could possibly use to superficially discern if one
was living a "wellness lifestyle" is to see what the applicant looks
like physically. So the popular conclusion would be that if he or she is
overweight...he or she must not be living the "wellness lifestyle."

This strikes me as hypocritical. Are we going to confine our profession
to a group of hyper-fit individuals? I believe wellness comes in all
shapes AND sizes. If we exclude anyone from our ranks, how does that
strengthen our cause? Diversity of health educators can help ensure that
a diverse population is reached.



______________________________________________________
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#2236
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:52:11 -0600
From:    Dave Remmert 
Subject: Re: Position on SC Coast

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Fellow HEDIRS:

I read with interest the email job posting from Sharon Thompson.  I'm
curious, could inability to engage in a healthy lifestyle be considered
a disability and thus be covered under the American's with Disabilities
Act.  This would then mean that hiring under this basis would be
discrimination.  Food for thought.

Thanks,

David M. Remmert, M.P.H., C.H.E.S.
> ----------
> From:         Michael J. Ludwig[SMTP:hprmjl@HOFSTRA.EDU]
> Reply To:     Michael J. Ludwig
> Sent:         Tuesday, December 01, 1998 9:09AM
> To:   HEDIR-L@SIU.EDU
> Subject:      Re: Position on SC Coast
>
> ** Advertising a Job? http://www.kittle.siu.edu/jobs.htm
> ** Texas A and M Jobs:  http://www.kittle.siu.edu/ads/texasam.htm
>
> Sharon Thompson wrote:
>
> > Please note the following faculty position:
> >
> > QUALIFICATIONS:  Earned Doctorate, ABD minimum, in Public Health or
> > Health Promotion, evidence of scholarly productivity, and a wellness
> > lifestyle that reflects the philosophy of the program.  CHES
> > certification and computer technology skills are preferred.
>
> Wow!  Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the first job
> announcementthat
> states applicants possess a "wellness lifestyle"?  What if an
> applicant's definition of wellness doesn't fit the search committee's
> definition?  What if the search committee can't agree on what
> constitutes
> a wellness lifestyle?  Does a new clause need to be added to
> non-discrimination
> policies? (e.g. "Coastal Carolina does not discriminate on the basis
> of
> wellness lifestyle...")
>
> Don't get me wrong, promoting health and wellness is my chosen
> profession
> but am I the only who is a tad bit squeamish about REQUIRING IT
> (however
> defined)?
>
> I look forward to other's point of view on this one.
>
> --
> Michael J. Ludwig
> Assistant Professor
> Hofstra University
> Department of Health Professions & Family Studies
> hprmjl@hofstra.edu or ludwigm@accesshub.net
> Voice: 516.463.5885 Fax: 516.463.4810
>
> "America why are your libraries full of tears?"
>   -Allen Ginsberg
>
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> http://www.kittle.siu.edu/ads/mayo.htm
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>

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#2237
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:19:39 -0500
From:    Candace Miller 
Subject: Re: position at SC Coastal

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Maybe it is because I am one of those "hyper-fit individuals" that Todd
Wilson
spoke of but I agree with Tom Davis who wouldn't jump to hire a drunk
driving
sedentary chain smoker.

To me the phrase in the job description said "we are looking for someone
who
believes in their work and is committed to health."  They didn't say what
shape or size that commitment should take.

What a fun debate!

Candace M. Miller, CHES
Project Assistant
NASPA Health Education Leadership Project
1875 Connecticut Avenue, N.W. Suite 418
Washington D.C. 20009-5728
(T) 202-265-7500
(F) 202-797-1157
cmiller@naspa.org
http://www.naspa.org

"A healthy mind in a healthy body,
Healthy relationships in a health community"...


----------
> From: Thomas.Davis@UNI.EDU
> To: HEDIR-L@SIU.EDU
> Subject: position at SC Coastal
> Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 11:27 AM
>
> ** Advertising a Job? http://www.kittle.siu.edu/jobs.htm
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>
> The announcement sounds to me like a clear message that they don't want
to hire
> a sedentary chain smoker with multiple drunk driving convictions.  Do any
of
> the rest of you?
>
> Tom Davis/University of Northern Iowa
>
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#2238
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:23:06 -0500
From:    "Pack, Shana HSF" 
Subject: FW: Position on SC Coast

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As we all know, the term "wellness" includes social, vocational, emotional,
physical, spiritual, mental, and intelectual wellness.  These various
factors can all work together to makeup a healthy lifestyle.  No one is
perfect, but I think it is fair to ask that applicants "practice what they
preach."  The ad was not so specific to discuss nutrition or exercise levels
of applicants.  I saw the focus as general health and the attempt to make
sure that applicants were making an effort to be as healthy as possible.

> ----------
> From:         Dave Remmert[SMTP:dremmert@CUPHD.ORG]
> Reply To:     Dave Remmert
> Sent:         Tuesday, December 01, 1998 11:52 AM
> To:   HEDIR-L@SIU.EDU
> Subject:      Re: Position on SC Coast
>
> ** Advertising a Job? http://www.kittle.siu.edu/jobs.htm
> ** Texas A and M Jobs:  http://www.kittle.siu.edu/ads/texasam.htm
>
> Fellow HEDIRS:
>
> I read with interest the email job posting from Sharon Thompson.  I'm
> curious, could inability to engage in a healthy lifestyle be considered
> a disability and thus be covered under the American's with Disabilities
> Act.  This would then mean that hiring under this basis would be
> discrimination.  Food for thought.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David M. Remmert, M.P.H., C.H.E.S.
> > ----------
> > From:         Michael J. Ludwig[SMTP:hprmjl@HOFSTRA.EDU]
> > Reply To:     Michael J. Ludwig
> > Sent:         Tuesday, December 01, 1998 9:09AM
> > To:   HEDIR-L@SIU.EDU
> > Subject:      Re: Position on SC Coast
> >
> > ** Advertising a Job? http://www.kittle.siu.edu/jobs.htm
> > ** Texas A and M Jobs:  http://www.kittle.siu.edu/ads/texasam.htm
> >
> > Sharon Thompson wrote:
> >
> > > Please note the following faculty position:
> > >
> > > QUALIFICATIONS:  Earned Doctorate, ABD minimum, in Public Health or
> > > Health Promotion, evidence of scholarly productivity, and a wellness
> > > lifestyle that reflects the philosophy of the program.  CHES
> > > certification and computer technology skills are preferred.
> >
> > Wow!  Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the first job
> > announcementthat
> > states applicants possess a "wellness lifestyle"?  What if an
> > applicant's definition of wellness doesn't fit the search committee's
> > definition?  What if the search committee can't agree on what
> > constitutes
> > a wellness lifestyle?  Does a new clause need to be added to
> > non-discrimination
> > policies? (e.g. "Coastal Carolina does not discriminate on the basis
> > of
> > wellness lifestyle...")
> >
> > Don't get me wrong, promoting health and wellness is my chosen
> > profession
> > but am I the only who is a tad bit squeamish about REQUIRING IT
> > (however
> > defined)?
> >
> > I look forward to other's point of view on this one.
> >
> > --
> > Michael J. Ludwig
> > Assistant Professor
> > Hofstra University
> > Department of Health Professions & Family Studies
> > hprmjl@hofstra.edu or ludwigm@accesshub.net
> > Voice: 516.463.5885 Fax: 516.463.4810
> >
> > "America why are your libraries full of tears?"
> >   -Allen Ginsberg
> >
> > ** Mayo Clinic Job Announcement:
> > http://www.kittle.siu.edu/ads/mayo.htm
> > ** "Rent" this banner:  http://www.kittle.siu.edu/banner.htm
> >
>
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>

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#2239
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:42:32 -0600
From:    Dave Remmert 
Subject: Re: Position on SC Coast

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Fellow Hedirs:

Although I agree that health educators should practice what they preach,
I don't think that legally it could be a basis for hiring.  It is easy
to look at a health habit such as smoking that is more obvious and say
"I cant hire this person since they smoke", but what about other more
subtle health habits that you will never be able to distinguish in an
interview, i.e. a cholesterol level of 360?  How could one discriminate
between which health habit is most important to determine whether that
habit is significant enough to warrant not hiring the individual?
Interesting.

Thanks,

David M. Remmert

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> As we all know, the term "wellness" includes social, vocational,
> emotional,
> physical, spiritual, mental, and intelectual wellness.  These various
> factors can all work together to makeup a healthy lifestyle.  No one
> is
> perfect, but I think it is fair to ask that applicants "practice what
> they
> preach."  The ad was not so specific to discuss nutrition or exercise
> levels
> of applicants.  I saw the focus as general health and the attempt to
> make
> sure that applicants were making an effort to be as healthy as
> possible.
>
>
>

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#2240
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:55:25 -0500
From:    "Robert J. McDermott, Ph.D." 
Subject: Re: position at SC Coastal

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As long as we are speculating, perhaps it is a code that they don't want to
hire any "excessive masturbators."

I obviously share the view that the phrase identified in the annoucement is
a bit unusual for academia.  Then again, in other fields, perhaps there are
similar considerations.  It raises many questions:  Is there an "engineering
lifestyle"?  Is there a "botanical lifestyle?"  Wouldn't we all benefit from
persons living a more "social worker" lifestyle?  Maybe we need more HPER
units pulling in those candidates who subscribe to that much maligned
"coaching lifestyle," or would that merely nurture the development of more
"whistle-blowers"?  Did Indiana Jones' university hire him because he
personified that much cherished "archaeological lifestyle"?  Hey, can you
"dig" it?

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#2241
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:07:21 -0800
From:    Renee Drellishak 
Subject: Re: position at SC Coastal

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Yeah, well couldn't they just put "Sedentary chainsmokers with multiple
drunk driving convictions need not apply" just to be clear? Ok, I guess
that's still discrimination. I certainly understand wanting to hire
someone who more or less practices what they preach, but I have no idea
how to legally work that into a job description.

Hey, didn't we have this conversation [on hiring health educators who
smoke, or are overweight, etc..] a few months ago? If anyone is super
interested in the debate they can check the archives. (Not to discourage
revisiting the issue here, just providing additional info.)

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> The announcement sounds to me like a clear message that they don't want to
hire
> a sedentary chain smoker with multiple drunk driving convictions.  Do any of
> the rest of you?
>
> Tom Davis/University of Northern Iowa
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#2242
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:21:46 -0800
From:    "Michael J.Cleary" 
Subject: Role models

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Dear HEDIRS:
I recall General Colin Powell stating in one of his books that a role
model position is too important to be relegated to athletes, celebrities
(and I would add health educators per se)etc. Rather, General Powell
believes that this critical function is really the reponsibility of the
family (including the extended family). I find myself agreeing more with
this view every passing day.

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#2243
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:27:23 -0600
From:    "Walter A. Hanks" 
Subject: Re: "wellness lifestyle"

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Todd Wilson wrote:
>I agree with Susan. Whether it is intended or not (but most likely was),
>the clause is a "read between the lines" statement intended to weed out
>all of those who do not fit a preconceived idea of a "wellness
>lifestyle."
>
>And of course, short of checking medical records or taking hair samples,
>the only criteria one could possibly use to superficially discern if one
>was living a "wellness lifestyle" is to see what the applicant looks
>like physically. So the popular conclusion would be that if he or she is
>overweight...he or she must not be living the "wellness lifestyle."
>
>This strikes me as hypocritical. Are we going to confine our profession
>to a group of hyper-fit individuals? I believe wellness comes in all
>shapes AND sizes. If we exclude anyone from our ranks, how does that
>strengthen our cause? Diversity of health educators can help ensure that
>a diverse population is reached.
>
>
Wonderfully said!

This is an issue that has bothered me for some time.  I entered the health
education profession because I had personally experienced how powerful
knowledge is in helping a person overcome the affects of a major chronic
disease (rheumatoid arthritis).  I also have peripheral neuritis, sjogren's
syndrome, fibromyalgia, and asthma.

Because of these diseases, and the side affects of medications I take for
them, I am not at my ideal weight, and I am not as physically active as
many of my colleagues.  After 12 surgeries on my knees, back, feet, jaw,
etc., it is not possible for me to run or even walk long distances.  On
most days lately, I use a cane to get around.  I was in a wheelchair for
most of the summer as I recovered from major reconstructive surgery on my
foot.

Early in my education, I was counseled that I should not consider becoming
a classroom health teacher, since I don't model ideal health and my
students wouldn't consider me credible.  I have also been told by some of
my fellow students that they don't consider me an appropriate spokesmen for
our student association, because of my weight.

Yet, those who know me and understand my health problems see that I refuse
to give in to the constant  pain; that I earned my BS in 3 1/2 years,
served as an officer of our Eta Sigma Gamma chapter every year (ending as
president), published two research articles, ran a campus wide safety
education campaign, and graduated Magna Cum Laude; and that I now manage
four research projects as a graduate student while taking a full load of
classes and teaching 3 sections of an undergraduate computer class.  And,
by the way, I *do* exercise daily.  If I didn't, I wouldn't be able to move.

For me, being healthy means remaining functional in spite of disease and
illness beyond my control.  It means doing the best I can with what I have
to deal with.  I wonder how a search committee would judge my "wellness
lifestyle."

Walter A. Hanks, BS, C.H.E.S.
Graduate Research Assistant
Department of Health Sciences
Brigham Young University
Walter A. Hanks, BS, C.H.E.S.
Graduate Research Assistant
Department of Health Sciences
Brigham Young University

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#2244
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:50:14 -0800
From:    Renee Drellishak 
Subject: Re: position at SC Coastal

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On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Robert J. McDermott, Ph.D. wrote:

> As long as we are speculating, perhaps it is a code that they don't want to
> hire any "excessive masturbators."

Um, define "excessive". ;) [Hey,that latte just kicked right in! Can you
tell?]

> I obviously share the view that the phrase identified in the annoucement is
> a bit unusual for academia.  Then again, in other fields, perhaps there are
> similar considerations.  It raises many questions:  Is there an "engineering
> lifestyle"?

Yes, People who live on coke and pizza and don't sleep for three days on
end before a project is due. (I'm married to a Microsoftie--trust me on
this one.)

> Is there a "botanical lifestyle?"

Yes, People who garden, garden, and garden some more. And who may also
inject mold and mildew into their environment with their 8000 houseplants.

 Wouldn't we all benefit from
> persons living a more "social worker" lifestyle?

The social workers I know are all underpaid, depressed and totally used up
emotionally by their jobs and burn out in three years. So, "no."

  Maybe we need more HPER
> units pulling in those candidates who subscribe to that much maligned
> "coaching lifestyle," or would that merely nurture the development of more
> "whistle-blowers"?

Ack!

  Did Indiana Jones' university hire him because he
> personified that much cherished "archaeological lifestyle"?  Hey, can you
> "dig" it?

Bwah ha ha!


Hey--let's really talk about this wellness lifestyle thing as it pertains
to how we (or at least myself and most of the health educators I know) do
our jobs.

My totally unscientific non-randomized sample tells me that:
--we all are underpaid and underappreciated by many who think that if you
don't have a medical education you're not worthy to talk about health

--most of us end up working more than the 40 hours that those of us who
are hired for full-time work are supposed to

--many of us get so busy we skip our lunch hours and eat at our desks

--we get so involved with all sorts of other causes that we don't take
nearly enough time for ourselves, although we remind other people to do
this on a regular basis


Is this really a lifestyle we want to promote? How many of use are
*actually* practicing in what we preach in terms of balance and whole
person wellness? ("Bueller...Bueller...")

Renee

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#2245
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:22:47 EST
From:    Andy Frank 
Subject: Re: Position on SC Coast & wellness lifestyle

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Dear colleagues - at the risk of never, ever, ever, getting a professorial
health education job offer, I am "coming out of the closet" to put a REAL face
on this issue, and I present you with a very REAL potential scenario.

Ever since I got my masters in health promotion at Purdue in 1984, I've held
out the dream (ok, so it's not quite so romanticized anymore) of becoming a
professor in health ed.  I started down that road in 1992 working on my
doctorate at UW-Madison.  Unlike my masters program, my doctoral program has
been an exercise in slogging through quicksand.  I finally had a total health
breakdown and was diagnosed with a severe form of a chronic, incurable,
virtually untreatable rheumatic disease called Sjogren's (pronounced show-
grens) Syndrome.  I'd never heard of it in my health ed studies, even though
it's more common than RA or lupus (hey folks, why aren't we teaching students
about this disease?).  Basically, it's an autoimmune disease that wipes out
moisture producing (exocrine) glands all over your body making it difficult to
breathe and see (just for starters).  It also causes serious muscle and joint
pain, and among other things creates a steady state, deep fatigue and loss of
stamina that can only be compared to having a constant, incurable case of
mononucleosis.  And guess what, for many of us "Sjogies", exercise  - even a
casual stroll - instead of making the pain, fatigue and stamina improve,
actually make it worse!

OK, so what's my point here?  Well, I've gone from a svelte athletic undergrad
to a more than pleasingly plump, sedentary doctoral candidate.  So, now let's
say, I apply for this job in SC or some other professorial one that requires a
"wellness lifestyle."  Suddenly I'm in an extremely awkward and untenable
position, because:

1.  I do look outwardly fat and flaccid.

2.  I don't look outwardly sick.  Most of my health problems are "invisible"
to others. Because I can pull together the facade of normality for short
periods of time and don't complain, any number of people think I'm making this
disease up or exaggerating its severity.  Although I walk slowly, I don't walk
with a cane.  For your job interview, I would put eyedrops in my eyes right
before the interview, so you wouldn't notice that.  I'd bring water into the
room to sip and would take some meds 20 minutes before the interview so you
couldn't tell my mouth was dry or that I had trouble breathing.  And if you
did notice anything, you'd probably chalk it up to me being nervous. Of
course, if you were really observant, maybe you'd notice I had some trouble
getting out of my chair when the interview was over, but I'd try to disguise
any difficulty I had with that or do something to divert your attention away
from that - and I'd be sure to load up on my most powerful NSAIDs beforehand!
After the interview, I would go back to my hotel room, collapse in bed, and
sleep for 3-4 hours. Once I flew home, I might need to spend a couple days
literally doing nothing in order to recooperate from the travel exhaustion.

3.  Now during the interview, if you asked me about my personal "wellness
lifestyle" habits, and I knew this to be a key criterion for hire, I am
between a rock and a hard place.  I readily can attest to my non-smoking and
alcohol moderation status, my ability to manage stress, and the fact that I
get plenty of sleep (!).  However, because of my obvious weight and lack of
muscle tone, you would (rightfully) suspect that something was rotten in
Denmark.  In this situation the only real choice I would perceive on the spot
if I really wanted your job is to disclose my disability to you, even though
in any other intellectual desk job or professorial position, this would not be
an issue, and in fact is technically protected from discussion during an
interview by the ADA, unless I CHOOSE to bring it up.

4.  Even if you accept my disability, some other concerns you won't discuss
openly with me start creeping into your mind.  As you discuss my potential
hire in a private parley with your colleagues, you begin to wonder, "OK, maybe
WE know she has a disability, but the students won't necessarily know that,
and since she doesn't create the outward appearance of a wellness lifestyle
model, we really can't count on her being one for our students.

5.  Then other reservations creep in and get discussed at your hiring
roundtable in my absence.  Gee, this disability really sounds like it's had a
serious impact on her life and her activity level.  I mean, it took her almost
8 years to finish her doctorate.  I know she claims a lot of time was sucked
up up by replacing committee members who retired and had a heart attack,
waiting for some to return from sabbatical, commuting 160 miles round trip
every time she had to attend class or meet with a prof, all while trying to
work part time, but Hmmm, I'm beginning to wonder whether or not she'd be able
to cut the demands of a tenure track position - whether or not she's tenure
track material.  (And hey, I can understand your concern about this, because
it's a concern I MYSELF HAVE, given the numerous health breakdowns I've had
while trying to finish my doctorate. )  And - oh my god - what if she starts
the semester and has a health breakdown.  I'M NOT GOING TO BE THE ONE WHO
FINISHES OUT THE SEMESTER TEACHING HER COURSELOAD!  Or what if she pulls a
"reasonable accomodation" number on us, and says she can only teach 2 classes
a semester while on a tenure track.  Somebody is going to have to pick up the
slack, and it ain't going to be me!

Of course, if your position hadn't stated a "wellness lifestyle" requirement,
I wouldn't have felt quite so compelled to reveal my disability to you in
order to compete for this position, and you would not be using my disability
as a criterion to rule me out.  You simply would not be having the discussion
I outlined above (ADA be damned!  Almost anything goes behind closed doors
before someone is hired).  Of course, if a potential new hire was pregnant and
didn't mention it during the interview, had a special needs kid at home to
deal with, was going to be involved in the eldercare of parents, or was going
through a divorce, or had an invisibile serious mental health problem  - any
of these could affect their ability to do the job you were hiring them to do,
too.  Yet, in NONE of these instances, would the job candidate feel compelled
to bring these issues up in order to get hired, because by all outward
appearances they would be meeting your criterion for a wellness lifestyle, and
the candidate would keep this other stuff under close wraps in an interview.

Those of you who are blessed with near perfect health and an active life need
to take this matter very, very seriously.  Disability from a fall from the
roof while cleaning out the gutters or a car accident (where the OTHER driver
was drunk) or a disability resulting from a disease produced by the cosmic
rolling of the dice ... Next time, it could be you.

Well, like I said, by coming out of the closet, I've probably trashed most
possibilities for future employment in the health ed professoriate.  But, THIS
IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE, FOLKS, WITH VERY VERY REAL CONSEQUENCES for
people like
me.  I never knew what wellness really was till I didn't have it in the
classic health educator's sense anymore.  But do I live a wellness lifestyle -
you bet!  Even if it's not the one you live, or not one you can SEE with your
eyes.  A wellness lifestyle is gratitude on a daily basis for everything a
person can still do, despite his or her disabilities (I may not be able to
weep emotional tears anymore, but hey, at least I can still see!).  A wellness
lifestyle is finding a way to nurture your own spiritual well being, even when
you're too sick or tired to go to church or get involved in churchly
activities.  A wellness lifestyle is taking a slow stroll down a brilliantly
colored path etched with fall leaves.   A wellness lifestyle is reaching
beyond the pain and beyond the grief for all the losses a disability presents,
and keeping a positive attitude. A wellness lifestyle is finishing a doctorate
even when you feel like sh@#$, even if it takes 10 years(!), and even if
you'll never be able to hold a job afterwards because of your disability,
simply because it means finishing something very important in your life you
set out to do.  A wellness lifestyle is learning to flow and bend with your
disability, rather than fighting it in order to conform to other people's
expectations about what you "should" be able to do because you don't look
sick.  A wellness lifestyle is compassion for others who can't live the ideal,
youthful wellness lifestyle promoted by our society.  Tell me, how do you
interview for these?


Andrea Frank, Ph.D. Cand. (7 years in the doctoral program and still
counting!)
University of Wisconsin - Madison


Sharon Thompson wrote:

> Please note the following faculty position:
>
> QUALIFICATIONS:  Earned Doctorate, ABD minimum, in Public Health or
> Health Promotion, evidence of scholarly productivity, and a wellness
> lifestyle that reflects the philosophy of the program.  CHES
> certification and computer technology skills are preferred.

>>>Fellow HEDIRS:

I read with interest the email job posting from Sharon Thompson.  I'm
curious, could inability to engage in a healthy lifestyle be considered
a disability and thus be covered under the American's with Disabilities
Act.  This would then mean that hiring under this basis would be
discrimination.  Food for thought.

Thanks,

David M. Remmert, M.P.H., C.H.E.S.>>>


>>>Wow!  Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the first job announcementthat
states applicants possess a "wellness lifestyle"?  What if an
applicant's definition of wellness doesn't fit the search committee's
definition?  What if the search committee can't agree on what constitutes
a wellness lifestyle?  Does a new clause need to be added to
non-discrimination
policies? (e.g. "Coastal Carolina does not discriminate on the basis of
wellness lifestyle...")

Don't get me wrong, promoting health and wellness is my chosen profession
but am I the only who is a tad bit squeamish about REQUIRING IT (however
defined)?

I look forward to other's point of view on this one.

--
Michael J. Ludwig


>>>
I agree with Susan. Whether it is intended or not (but most likely was),
the clause is a "read between the lines" statement intended to weed out
all of those who do not fit a preconceived idea of a "wellness
lifestyle."

And of course, short of checking medical records or taking hair samples,
the only criteria one could possibly use to superficially discern if one
was living a "wellness lifestyle" is to see what the applicant looks
like physically. So the popular conclusion would be that if he or she is
overweight...he or she must not be living the "wellness lifestyle."

This strikes me as hypocritical. Are we going to confine our profession
to a group of hyper-fit individuals? I believe wellness comes in all
shapes AND sizes. If we exclude anyone from our ranks, how does that
strengthen our cause? Diversity of health educators can help ensure that
a diverse population is reached.
>>>

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#2246
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:33:44 -0500
From:    Elbert Glover 
Subject: Wellness Discrmination

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Would you rather hire an obese 350-lb, 5' 3" health educator to teach
nutrition or a health educator that is reasonable presentable to teach
nutrition?--be honest.  The argumentative, idealists, or "political correct"
health educators will immediately seize the word "reasonable" and will argue
semantics (similar to a recent quote in the news, "it depends on what
is...is," which is a method of evasiveness).  All things being equal, I know
who I would want to hire; moreover, who I want to hire is definitely
discriminatory.  Food for thought: "we MUST be thinking beyond the person
we're hiring to the persons' being impacted/influenced."

For example, as a general rule, smoking counselors are NOT as effective as
non-smoking or ex-smoking counselors in counseling for tobacco cessation.
Therefore, should I be forced to hire smoking counselors to counsel smokers
to NOT smoke and compromise someones potential success? The law tells me I
cannot inquire about an applicant's tobacco habits, but if I am forced to
hire a smoking counselor to whom is the discrimination in hiring being
directed toward?  Moreover, where is the disservice directed--to the smoking
applicant or the public?

The issue with "wellness discrimination" is where to draw the line?  My
350-lb example is an extreme one, and for most persons may be an easy
decision to make, so let's place him/her on a continuum--what if the person
weighed 300 lbs, 250 lbs, 200 lbs, 150 lbs, 125 lbs or is at the other end
of the continuum and weighs 95 lbs (anorexic).  Was there a point where you
said, 'that's o.k. there'?  In the real world, you have to use your
judgment, unfortunately, there are no absolutes to judgement because it's a
judgement and judgements differ among individuals.

For those of you who believe I'm discriminating.  I am, but we all
discriminate at differing levels.  When we reject applicants, we
discriminate by rejecting them for a variety of reasons i.e., dress,
appearance, hair (mohawk, pink), hygiene, outspokenness, demeanor, knowledge
(lack of or abundance), CHES, qualifications, degrees, laziness, failure to
meet deadlines, etc. Problem is, we have a tendency to view discrimination
negatively and are fearful of colleagues viewing us in such a manner when in
reality, we discriminate all the time--it's natural--we make decisions by
what we value.

>From what I know about smokers and their counseling effectiveness:

I will NOT knowingly hire smokers to conduct smoking cessation counseling
because it sends the wrong message and ultimately smoking counselors are NOT
as effective.

I will NOT compromise efficacy for "political correctness."

And I will NOT be made to feel guilty that I discriminate because my first
obligation is to the patient, student, and/or the individual who wants to
quit smoking and NOT the smoker who is living his/her choice.

P.S. I never know how my words are interpreted, so please be assured that I
am not a racists nor am I angry--just sharing a point of view.

Glover

Elbert D. Glover, PhD, FAAHB
Professor, Department of Behavioral Medicine & Psychiatry
Professor, Department of Family Medicine
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West Virginia University School of Medicine
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#2247
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:40:00 -0500
From:    "David Wiley, Ph.D." 
Subject: Job Qualifications

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Dear Colleagues,

I just browsing through the Chronicle and read two job descriptions for
a political science professor and an accounting professor at a "small
Midwestern University". The requirements for the two were the "usual"
stuff, but the political science job required that "all applicants must
have exemplary voting records" and the accounting position required that
"all applicants must have their respective checkbooks balanced at the
time of interview".  Hey, they may be on to something here. Making
professionals "walk their talk".

With tongue firmly implanted in my cheek I ask, wouldn't those
requirements be ridiculous?? Why would "the wellness" requirement  be
viewed any differently??

DCW

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Dear Colleagues, 

I just browsing through the Chronicle and read two job descriptions for a political science
professor and an
accounting professor at a "small Midwestern University". The requirements for the two were the
"usual" stuff,
but the political science job required that "all applicants must have exemplary voting records" and
the
accounting position required that "all applicants must have their respective checkbooks balanced
at the time
of interview".  Hey, they may be on to something here. Making professionals "walk their talk". 

With tongue firmly implanted in my cheek I ask, wouldn't those requirements be ridiculous?? Why
would
"the wellness" requirement  be viewed any differently?? 

DCW



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#2248
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:07:09 EST
From:    Fred Breukelman 
Subject: Re: Wellness Discrmination

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Amen.    However, I'm not sure the law prohibits inquiring about smoking
habits, especially if it is job related (as it is with a health educator who
will be teaching smoking cessation).   Someone needs to do some research on
that.


"Elbert Glover"  Wrote:
|
|
|
| Would you rather hire an obese 350-lb, 5' 3" health
| educator to teach
| nutrition or a health educator that is reasonable
| presentable to teach
| nutrition?--be honest.  The argumentative, idealists, or
| "political correct"
| health educators will immediately seize the word
| "reasonable" and will argue
| semantics (similar to a recent quote in the news, "it
| depends on what
| is...is," which is a method of evasiveness).  All things
| being equal, I know
| who I would want to hire; moreover, who I want to hire is
| definitely
| discriminatory.  Food for thought: "we MUST be thinking
| beyond the person
| we're hiring to the persons' being impacted/influenced."
|
| For example, as a general rule, smoking counselors are NOT
| as effective as
| non-smoking or ex-smoking counselors in counseling for
| tobacco cessation.
| Therefore, should I be forced to hire smoking counselors
| to counsel smokers
| to NOT smoke and compromise someones potential success?
| The law tells me I
| cannot inquire about an applicant's tobacco habits, but if
| I am forced to
| hire a smoking counselor to whom is the discrimination in
| hiring being
| directed toward?  Moreover, where is the disservice
| directed--to the smoking
| applicant or the public?
|
| The issue with "wellness discrimination" is where to draw
| the line?  My
| 350-lb example is an extreme one, and for most persons may
| be an easy
| decision to make, so let's place him/her on a
| continuum--what if the person
| weighed 300 lbs, 250 lbs, 200 lbs, 150 lbs, 125 lbs or is
| at the other end
| of the continuum and weighs 95 lbs (anorexic).  Was there
| a point where you
| said, 'that's o.k. there'?  In the real world, you have to
| use your
| judgment, unfortunately, there are no absolutes to
| judgement because it's a
| judgement and judgements differ among individuals.
|
| For those of you who believe I'm discriminating.  I am,
| but we all
| discriminate at differing levels.  When we reject
| applicants, we
| discriminate by rejecting them for a variety of reasons
| i.e., dress,
| appearance, hair (mohawk, pink), hygiene, outspokenness,
| demeanor, knowledge
| (lack of or abundance), CHES, qualifications, degrees,
| laziness, failure to
| meet deadlines, etc. Problem is, we have a tendency to
| view discrimination
| negatively and are fearful of colleagues viewing us in
| such a manner when in
| reality, we discriminate all the time--it's natural--we
| make decisions by
| what we value.
|
| From what I know about smokers and their counseling
| effectiveness:
|
| I will NOT knowingly hire smokers to conduct smoking
| cessation counseling
| because it sends the wrong message and ultimately smoking
| counselors are NOT
| as effective.
|
| I will NOT compromise efficacy for "political
| correctness."
|
| And I will NOT be made to feel guilty that I discriminate
| because my first
| obligation is to the patient, student, and/or the
| individual who wants to
| quit smoking and NOT the smoker who is living his/her
| choice.
|
| P.S. I never know how my words are interpreted, so please
| be assured that I
| am not a racists nor am I angry--just sharing a point of
| view.
|
| Glover
|
| Elbert D. Glover, PhD, FAAHB
| Professor, Department of Behavioral Medicine & Psychiatry
| Professor, Department of Family Medicine
| Director, Tobacco Research Center
| Mary Babb Randolph Cancer Center
| West Virginia University School of Medicine
| Robert C. Byrd Health Sciences Center
| 1 Medical Center Drive, PO Box 9300
| Morgantown, WV 26506-9300
| Voice:  304-293-7597
| Fax: 304-293-4693
| ****Please visit our Tobacco Research Center web site:
| http://www.hsc.wvu.edu/mbrcc/tobaccoresearch.html
| ****Visit the American Academy of Health Behavior web
| site:
| http://131.230.221.136/ajhb
|
|
|
|


Fred N. Breukelman, C.H.E.S.
Director of Health Education
Delaware Division of Public Health
fbreukelman@state.de.us

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#2249
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:05:31 -0500
From:    Elbert Glover 
Subject: Follow-up

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After sending my message, I was able to view Andrea Frank's and Walter
Hank's messages.  If they were to share this information with me during an
interview, I WOULD probably be discriminatory in their cases as well but not
in the direction that you'd think.  Andrea and Walter's stories are triumphs
of the human spirit--in my opinion, they would make great role models.  I do
not know either one of them but all things being equal, their
situations/conditions would give them an advantage in my interview because
their situations/conditions are NOT of their doing and are NOT a result of
their lifestyle.  Their stories are not only about what they've
accomplished, but what they have had to overcome--I was truly uplifted with
what they have overcome and what have accomplished.

Glover

Elbert D. Glover, PhD, FAAHB
Professor, Department of Behavioral Medicine & Psychiatry
Professor, Department of Family Medicine
Director, Tobacco Research Center
Mary Babb Randolph Cancer Center
West Virginia University School of Medicine
Robert C. Byrd Health Sciences Center
1 Medical Center Drive, PO Box 9300
Morgantown, WV 26506-9300
Voice:  304-293-7597
Fax: 304-293-4693
****Please visit our Tobacco Research Center web site:
http://www.hsc.wvu.edu/mbrcc/tobaccoresearch.html
****Visit the American Academy of Health Behavior web site:
http://131.230.221.136/ajhb

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#2250
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:43:05 -0600
From:    MCGonzalez 
Subject: Coalition Building

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In my present employment I have the responsibility of supervising a
coalition.  I am very unexperienced in this area. The coalition already has
a mission statement.  It is made up of various organizations, businesses,
concerned citizens and parents.  Can anyone give me some direction?  We are
in the process of designing a needs assessment for the community. I sure
would appreciate some help?

Thank You

Mercedes
Houston, Texas

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#2251
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:52:28 -0500
From:    "Mark T. Tomita" 
Subject: Faculty Wellness

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Does any know if health education and promotion students taught by
professors who demonstrate a "wellness lifestyle" turn out to be better
health educators than those who have not?

Mark Tomita


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#2252
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:08:12 -0800
From:    Renee Drellishak 
Subject: Re: Wellness Discrmination

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On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Fred Breukelman wrote:
> Amen.    However, I'm not sure the law prohibits inquiring about smoking
> habits, especially if it is job related (as it is with a health educator who
> will be teaching smoking cessation).   Someone needs to do some research on
> that.

I seldom find need to *ask* if someone is a smoker--usually you can tell
by the smell, the yellow teeth, the yellow fingers. Even if they don't
smell like smoke, they often strongly smell of some masking odor--like
perfume or aftershave.

Renee Drellishak

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#2253
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:48:16 -0600
From:    karl larson 
Subject: Re: Wellness Discrmination

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Glover said...

>"The law tells me I cannot inquire about an applicant's tobacco habits...."

That is not at all true...the areas that are protected against descrimination
are clearly defined by the law and smoking is NOT one of them...nor is weight,
stress level, or masterbation level (as someone pointed out earlier in the
debate.

The question is not about law in my opinion, but rather if we should dictate
that health educators should be required to be role models.  As you can plainly
read, there are many camps on the issue...



Have a healthy day.
Karl L. Larson
Director, Health Education
Jackson County (Illinois) Health Department
Sr. Ass't. Editor, International Electronic Journal of Health Education

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#2254
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:39:34 -0800
From:    Jason Butts 
Subject: just curious - salaries

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what is the going salary range at your university/health department for
a health educator, Masters prepared, CHES, two years experience.

jason butts
health educator
university of nevada las vegas

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#2255
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:59:48 -0800
From:    Margo Harris 
Subject: Brain-Related Resources

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Thanks, Isabel.  I also read an interesting journal this month that
included great information on the brain and learning (not addiction),
including one article on the brain and nutrition that I have shared with
numerous colleagues.  I'm a member of ASCD - Association for Supervision
and Curriculum Development.  The ASCD journal, Educational Leadership,
offered the brain issue in November.  It's very interesting reading.
Margo

Margo Harris
Technology In Education Institute
Seattle, WA
Email: margo@techined.com
Web: http://www.techined.com/

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#2256
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:51:43 -0500
From:    Shelly Masur 
Subject: CFLE

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I recently received a mailing about becoming a Certified Family Life
Educator.  I don't really know anything about this credential.  I noted
that the schools with approved programs tended toward the conservative
side.  Can anyone tell me anything about this certification?

Thanks.

Shelly Masur, MPH
Health Education Coordinator
Trinity School

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#2257
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:12:39 -0800
From:    Margo Harris 
Subject: Re: "wellness lifestyle"

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I think maybe this relates to Carole Veach's post about role models, and
I invite others to share their comments on the list if that's of
interest.  I don't know what belongs in the job description, or what was
intended.  My comment on role models is that health educators are role
models, as are lots of other folks in life--moms, dads, other educators,
etc.  Often times the designation comes from external entities, not one
that is self-imposed.  Am I a role model because I choose to be or
because others have decided I am?  Being a role model is everyone's
responsibility and opportunity, and it may be happening right now
without your knowing it!

I also liked Mark Tomita's comment.  Is there evidence that a good role
model makes a difference in student's performance?  It would be
interesting to understand the impact of positive and negative role
models and the literature behind those concepts.  I think we all
probably have beliefs about the impact, but is there evidence?

As for the "wellness lifestyle," what questions would be asked in an
interview to elicit information that may be more subtle?    Margo

Margo Harris
Technology In Education Institute
Seattle, WA
Email: margo@techined.com
Web: http://www.techined.com/

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#2258
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:46:40 EST
From:    Chris Zachos 
Subject: Re: "wellness lifestyle"

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Bravo! Walter -- Bravo!

If there is one thing I can not stand about our profession, it is that so many
of my peers believe that we must "practice" what we "preach."  I am tired of
having to meet some "standard."  We are HUMAN -- THANKFULLY!  There are a lot
of things that I do that are in direct conflict with the beneficial health
information that I am surrounded by on a daily basis.   MMM....MMMM...MMMM --
Boy do I love: salt, caffeine (God I love it), a beer (and better, a glass or
two of wine :0),  extra bacon with my whole eggs, etc...  )  Why?    Could it
be because I am HUMAN?   Sure, I do the best I can to practice what I preach.
But damnit, sometimes I want to "practice" bad things too.  I am HUMAN HUMAN
HUMAN!

Chris Zachos
Graduate Student
Emerson College/Tuft's University School of Medicine
Health Communication Program
Boston, MA

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#2259
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:28:41 +0000
From:    "Andrew P. Jenkins, PhD" 
Subject: Role modeling

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Folks,
I've just got to get into this fray for a page or so!  I think I may be
the only one who can humbly call themselves something of an "authority"
on the health behaviors of health educators as I am one of only a few to
actually do research and present/publish on this topic (see JOHE Nov/Dec
1994).  The fact that I'm an expert on anything is amazing by itself but
that fact is overshadowed by the fact that research in this area is
sadly lacking.  Check this month's JOHE for some new work in this area.
(Apologies to the authors, I don't have my issue at hand just now).

Most of these types of role modeling discussions (and they are good
ones!) are based on " our intuitive hunches and "what if's" and many a
battle is won by use of the extreme example: "Would you hire an
overstressed, obese, sloth-like, smoking, drunk driver with bad personal
hygiene to be your spokesperson for your college wellness program?" or
"Would you fire a person and destroy their career which would likely
cause their children to be become homeless orphans just because you
caught them eating a single Hostess Twinkie in the privacy of their own
home?"  It's the old all or none argument and it lacks substance and
sensibility.

Not that I've ever been one to crowd an argument with facts, but here
are some findings you might be interested in:  My nationwide survey of
health educators showed that health educators as a whole were NOT much
different than "average" Americans.  We did trend to be a little closer
to the year 2000 goals in some areas.  Most health educators avoided
risky situations i.e. unrestrained driving/riding, drunk driving, and
the majority performed regular breast and testicular self exams. Smoking
was very low (4%) and CV exercise behavior was very high (88%).  We
could all use a little more sleep at night, however.  More than half
felt their work was satisfying and rewarding (I didn't ask about the
pay;)

Now, to answer Mr. Tomita's question of role modeling:  More than half
of the subjects rated themselves as "good" role models and nearly 60%
felt that being a good role model was essential to being effective as a
health educator.  As for studies on the actual effectiveness of health
educators as role models, no one has yet published any research findings
in this area in health education.  The September 1987 issue of JOPERD,
however, contains a few good articles on the effects of role modeling in
physical education.  The most compelling research I've read was done by
Melville and Cardinal of Eastern Wash. University.  They showed two
samples of school kids a video of a dressed a trim looking PE teacher
(male & female) in regular clothes or in a fat suit.  Interestingly,
when kids were shown a video tape of a PE teacher wearing a fat suit
under his clothes, the students not only recalled less of the lesson on
a paper/pencil test (than the slim teacher group) but also reported they
felt less motivated to practice the exercise demonstrated!  Thus, theory
that "He may be fat but he's still EFFECTIVE as a teacher and motivator"
does not hold up.

It seems to me that if we are going to continue as a profession to
include the works of Bandura and the theories of vicarious learning and
social learning theory in the development of health behaviors then we
need to acknowledge the fact that we, albeit not always by choice, are
role models of either positive or not-so-positive health behaviors.

Personally, I don't think students and clients look for "health saints,"
they just want to know you are "working on it just like me."  I think
this helps explain the effectiveness of recovering alcoholics and
ex-smokers in cessation programs.  They seem to want to know that you
believe in what you are promoting, that you don't ask them to do
anything that you aren't willing to do and that you are subject to the
same temptations or bad genes that they are.

Sorry about using up more than my share of bytes, I got a little carried
away ;)

See you Friday.

Andy J :{)

--
*********************************************************************
"If you treat a man as he is, he will stay as he is, but if you treat
him as if he were what he ought to be, and could be, he will become that
bigger and better man."  Goethe
*********************************************************************


Andrew P. Jenkins, Ph.D., CHES
Associate Professor
Health Education Dept.
Central Washington University
Ellensburg, WA 98926
509-963-1041
FAX 509-963-1848

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#2260
Date:    Tue, 1 Dec 1998 22:25:49 -0500
From:    Healthy Concepts 
Subject: Wellness role modeling and "the envelope please"

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I always know there's a juicy discussion going on when I check my email and
find 32 new messages since two hours ago!

As a researcher, I often find myself advocating for and teaching about the
need for good research in practice, not just as an academic exercise.
Thanks Andy, for the refreshing injection of data into the discussion,
which was beginning to sound a little circular! (And it seems we had a very
similar discourse about role modeling on the HEDIR several months ago -
regarding someone's query about whether to ask student interns who smoke to
report their behavior before being assigned to a placement.  This role
model issue really seems to hit a chord with us health educators.  Is it
that "guilt" gene?  :-)

Lisa Lieberman

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#2261
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:49:59 +0200
From:    Ansa Ojanlatva 
Subject: Re: Position on SC Coast

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There was another announcement with a similar orientation from Michigan a
few weeks ago, stated somewhat differently. Ansa.


On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Michael J. Ludwig wrote:

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>
> Sharon Thompson wrote:
>
> > Please note the following faculty position:
> >
> > QUALIFICATIONS:  Earned Doctorate, ABD minimum, in Public Health or
> > Health Promotion, evidence of scholarly productivity, and a wellness
> > lifestyle that reflects the philosophy of the program.  CHES
> > certification and computer technology skills are preferred.
>
> Wow!  Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the first job announcementthat
> states applicants possess a "wellness lifestyle"?  What if an
> applicant's definition of wellness doesn't fit the search committee's
> definition?  What if the search committee can't agree on what constitutes
> a wellness lifestyle?  Does a new clause need to be added to
> non-discrimination
> policies? (e.g. "Coastal Carolina does not discriminate on the basis of
> wellness lifestyle...")
>
> Don't get me wrong, promoting health and wellness is my chosen profession
> but am I the only who is a tad bit squeamish about REQUIRING IT (however
> defined)?
>
> I look forward to other's point of view on this one.
>
> --
> Michael J. Ludwig
> Assistant Professor
> Hofstra University
> Department of Health Professions & Family Studies
> hprmjl@hofstra.edu or ludwigm@accesshub.net
> Voice: 516.463.5885 Fax: 516.463.4810
>
> "America why are your libraries full of tears?"
>   -Allen Ginsberg
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#2262

Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:29:42 +0200
From:    Ansa Ojanlatva 
Subject: Omecol - a wellness lifestyle product, humor & blood pressure

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A couple of news items -

OMECOL is the name of a new "sausage", a set of franks, a lifestyle
product --if you allow me to say so. Finns like sausage with e.g. sauna. A
new lifestyle product was developed in which they replaced the saturated
fats with unsaturated ones. We have been told it will be on the market in
January/February time period.

Blood pressure control -
Take a look at the article by Martti Tuomisto in Health Psychology 1997,
16: 554-565. Viewing a humorous film seemed to lower heart rate below
baseline. I asked him if they had data on other pleasurable activities
collected. They do but it will take time to analyze the data. The
measurement was intra-arterial and only men were included as the
measurements re: women would have been too difficult at the time when the
study was initiated.

Ansa Ojanlatva

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#2263
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:06:55 -0500
From:    mary ann lay 
Subject: Re: just curious - salaries

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What type of job.  Teaching?  Student Health Service?  Specialized
Research Center?

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#2264
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:10:55 +0000
From:    Martin Wood <00mlwood@BSUVC.BSU.EDU>
Subject: Role modeling

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FYI on the subject of health educators as role models:

My graduate research methods students are developing an instrument to
measure the extent to which the public feels that various health
behaviors practiced by health educators impact their professional
effectiveness and credibility.

This is primarily an exercise in instrument development, designed to
train students in item generation, pilot testing, item analysis, and
other tasks related to creation of a survey instrument.  I do this each
fall with my research methods class, using a topic of their choosing.

For all those who are interested in the topic of health educators as
role models, I'll let you know the results of our pilot study when they
become available.

Marty Wood
Assistant Professor
Dept. of Physiology & Health Science
Ball State University
Muncie, IN 47306
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#2265
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:05:00 -0500
From:    "Teach, Leslie" 
Subject: faculty wellness

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Subject: FYI- Eagle Forum-House Agrees that Parents have a Right (Part 2)

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>Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 17:28:52 -0600
>To: Alert@eagleforum.org
>From: Eagle Forum 
>Subject: House Agrees that Parents have a Right (Part 2)
>
>(This Alert describes the outcome of the issues
>Eagle Forum was working on in the 105th Congress. )
>
>
>       House Agrees that Parents have a Right
> to Know What Government is Doing to Their Children!
>
>A Step Forward for Families: In a stunning upset, pro-family and
>pro-life Representatives joined together on the House floor to pass an
>amendment to require parental notice before minors receive federally
>funded contraception. On Thursday, October 8 by a 224-200 vote, the
>House approved an amendment offered by Reps. Istook (R-OK),
>Barcia (D-MI), and Manzullo (R-IL) to the Labor/HHS/Education
>Appropriations bill for FY99. The amendment would require prior
>written notice to a parent or guardian before a minor would have
>access to contraceptive drugs or devices from the federal Title X
>program. Approximately 1/3 of Title X clients are minors.
>Conservatives had earlier changed the course of the debate by
>switching four votes in the Appropriations committee and setting the
>parliamentary stage for a straight up-or-down vote on parents' rights.
>(Eagle Forum's role in this win was featured in a Washington Post
>story on August 26th.) Because of the shortened calendar, the
>Senate did not take up the legislation and the provision was
>ultimately dropped from the final Omnibus-spending bill due to
>strenuous White House opposition. The groundwork has been laid for
>a battle next year, and ultimately parents must have a right to know
>what the government is doing to their children.
>
>Please check the Eagle Forum Scoreboard located at
>http://www.eagleforum.org/vote to determine how your Representative voted
>and, if he voted YEA, please thank him! If not, ask why he voted
>against parents' rights. In addition to the sponsors of the amendment
>listed above, Rep. Tom Coburn (R-OK) and Rep. Joe Pitts (R-PA)
>were crucial in this pro-family effort and should be thanked by all. The
>Republican leadership also played a key role in enabling the recorded
>vote and the pro-life Democrats are unsung heroes for going against
>their party leadership and voting right.
>
>A press release from Planned Parenthood gives an indication of the
>warped views the opposition is pushing on our children and how
>fearful they are of chinks in their anti-family armor:
>
>
>                HOUSE VOTES TO DENY TEENS
>       CONFIDENTIAL ACCESS TO FAMILY PLANNING
>
>     Planned Parenthood President Gloria Feldt says House
>     vote will endanger teens by ending confidential access
>     to public health clinics ."Planned Parenthood has
>     always encouraged teens to involve their parents in
>     decisions about sex, health, and contraception," said
>     Gloria Feldt, president of Planned Parenthood
>     Federation of America. "But when teenagers feel they
>     cannot discuss sexual matters with their parents, it is
>     critical that they have a safe place to go to obtain
>     counseling, needed contraceptives, and related health
>     tests." . . . "Denying confidential care is harmful to
>     young people's health."
>
>A Step Back in Funding: The 203 million tax dollars given to
>pushers of domestic population control and teen promiscuity in 1998
>was not enough for pro-abortion Republicans Rep. John Porter (R-IL)
>and Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA). Thus these two powerful
>subcommittee chairman upped the final Title X budget for 1999 to
>$215 million.
>
>      ACTION ITEM: Is Your Neighborhood Clinic or School
>Getting Federal "Family Planning" Money? Find out by ordering
>the federal "Family Planning, Grantees, Delegates, and Clinics
>1998-1999 Directory" free from HHS (301-654-6190), or order from the
>clearinghouse site on the Internet:
>http://www.hhs.gov/progorg/opa/clearing.html. This book provides the
>name, addresses, and phone numbers of all clinics and schools that
>receive federal money, all of which are required to keep teen services
>(including abortion referrals) secret from parents. If you do have a
>federally funded clinic near you, spread the word! Most parents have
>no idea that, without their knowledge, their children can get free
>prescription contraceptive drugs or devices.
>
>
>Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Veto Stands . . . for now.
>
>On July 23rd, the House overrode President Clinton's veto of the
>Partial-Birth Abortion Ban (H.R. 1122) by a vote of 296-132. On
>September 19th, the veto override fell three votes short of the
>two-thirds margin necessary in the Senate with a 64-36 vote. Despite
>intense lobbying and prayer, not a single Senator changed his vote.
>As a result of the November 3rd elections, we are now one vote short
>of an override in the House of Representatives (we lost 11 PBA ban
>supporters) and two votes short of an override in the Senate (we
>gained one PBA ban supporter). Pro-lifers have our work cut out for
>us in the coming year.
>
>
>          Pro-Life Bill Dies in Senate
>
>The Child Custody Protection Act (H.R.3682, S.1645) would make it
>a federal crime to transport a minor across state lines for an abortion
>when her state of residence has parental consent/notification laws.
>This bill passed the House on July 15 by a vote of 276-150. It passed
>the Senate Judiciary Committee on July 16 by a 10-6 vote, but
>Senate proponents failed a procedural vote 54-45 to cut off the debate
>in the full Senate on September 22. Sixty votes were needed to
>invoke cloture and move forward to a vote on the bill. The pro-abortion
>forces argued that friends, pastors, and grandparents should be able
>to take a minor girl across state lines for an abortion without telling
>her parents. A June 6-8, 1998 telephone poll by Baselice &
>Associates, found that 85& of the 1,000 people polled (including 74%
>of self-identified "pro-choice" voters) answered NO to the question:
>"Should a person be able to take a minor girl across state lines to
>obtain an abortion without her parents' knowledge?"
>
>
>        Senate Confirms Pro-Abortion
>     FDA Director and Surgeon General
>
>Support for abortion and abortion-inducing drugs temporarily slowed
>two Clinton nominations before they were confirmed by the 105th
>Senate. The new U.S. Surgeon General, David Satcher, M.D., is on
>record supporting partial-birth abortion and abortion on demand,
>giving free taxpayer-funded needles to drug addicts, and opposing
>parental consent for abortion. Unfortunately, many senators chose to
>ignore his positions, and the protests of many Americans who don't
>want America's family doctor advocating unhealthy choices. Dr.
>Satcher was confirmed February 10th in a 63-35 vote, after the
>Senate voted 75-23 to end the filibuster led by Sen. John Ashcroft
>(R-MO). The 12 Republican Senators who tried to "have it both ways"
>by voting against Dr. Satcher after refusing to support Sen. Ashcroft's
>filibuster were: Abraham (MI), Craig (ID), DeWine (OH), Grams (MN),
>Gregg (NH), Hagel (NE), Hutchison (TX), Lott (MS), Murkowski (AK),
>Nickles (OK), Gordon Smith (OR), Thomas (WY).
>
>In a voice vote on October 21st, the Senate confirmed Dr. Jane
>Henney as the new Commissioner of the Food and Drug
>Administration. Dr. Henney's nomination was stalled due to concerns
>that she would help promote FDA approval of RU-486. Senators Mike
>Enzi (R-WY) and Tim Hutchinson (R-AR) brought the abortion issue
>to light in Dr. Henney's confirmation hearings. Using information
>supplied by Eagle Forum and others, these Senators along with
>Assistant Majority Leader Don Nickles (R-OK) met with the nominee
>and repeatedly questioned her involvement with the FDA's efforts in
>seeking an American manufacturer for RU-486. The day before her
>confirmation, Senator Nickles took to the Senate floor and said that
>he would support Dr. Henney's confirmation because, "In my opinion,
>she doesn't have a political agenda, and I believe she will try to
>administer the Food and Drug Administration as a professional
>organization to make sure that drugs and medical devices are safe
>and effective for America's population, and that she won't try to
>implement legislation through regulation." In addition, Senator
>Nickles said he was reassured by an October 14th letter from the
>FDA nominee that read in part, "If I am confirmed as Commissioner, I
>would not solicit a manufacturer for RU-486 [Congressional Record,
>page: S12691]."
>
>With the drug already approved for testing in the U.S. the damage
>from the FDA's involvement is already done. The Nov. 16th issue of
>U.S. News and World Report says that the FDA is likely to approve
>RU-486 in 1999.
>
>
>The Pro-Aborts' Next Strategy: Phase One Completed
>
>After months of battle and parliamentary maneuvers, abortion
>advocates prevailed on a mandate forcing all federal health plans to
>cover all "FDA approved" prescription contraception. The mandate
>includes drugs or devices that can induce abortion, but only allows
>exceptions for health plans with a specific religious objection, or
>individual doctors with moral objections. This is a significant
>departure from existing federal laws that provide conscience
>protection for entities as well as individuals, and sets a bad
>precedent when Congress considers a broader, nationwide mandate
>in the future. The House passed the Nita Lowey (D-NY) contraceptive
>mandate amendment 224-198 on July 16. In the Senate, a Lowey-like
>amendment passed in a late-night voice vote, when few members
>were present. Before the bill went to the House-Senate conference,
>the FDA announced its approval of so-called "emergency
>contraception," or the morning-after pill. The pill has an abortifacient
>effect of weakening the lining of the mother's uterus, thus preventing
>an already conceived child from safely implanting in the womb. The
>FDA's approval of the morning-after pill as a "contraceptive" alerted
>pro-life Members to the true intent of the Lowey contraceptive
>amendment and renewed their opposition to it. Both sides alternated
>claiming victory and defeat as pro-lifers defeated the conference
>report with the Lowey language but watched in dismay as the
>Republican leadership caved into President Clinton's demands that
>the language be reinserted in the final Omnibus-spending bill.
>
>Gloria Feldt, president of Planned Parenthood hailed the new
>mandate as a "giant step forward" and said candidly, "This lays a
>solid foundation for Congress to approve legislation in the next
>session to require contraceptive coverage by all private insurance
>plans" (emphasis added). Watch for mandatory "contraception"
>coverage to come to your state legislatures soon.
>
>Soon to be included in contraceptive mandate? "RU-486 is only
>for early abortions, and it perhaps may be used for emergency
>contraception up to 72 hours after intercourse; again, at the very
>earliest period when abortions are performed" (emphasis added).
>    -DC Delegate Eleanor Norton, 6/24/98 statement on House floor,
>Congressional
>                                       Record Page H5095
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#2267
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:45:35 -0600
From:    "Dale O. Ritzel" 
Subject: Two $12,500 Scholarships Available

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The National Safety Council will be awarding $12,500 UPS Safety and Health
scholarships to two undergraduates in October 1999.  Eligible students must
major, or be registered with completed course work, in one of the following
disciplines:
        environmental health
        environmental science
        ergonomics
        fire safety
        industrial hygiene
        occupational safety
        occupational health
        safety engineering
        safety management
        systems safety
        traffic engineering

Entries are based on:
        (40%) grade point average
        (30%) essay (originality and personableness)
        (30%) competency in written communications

Students must be sophomores at the time that they apply for the scholarship.
Applications must include academic advisor or department chair's signature
and approval. Applicaitons must also be supported by an official transcript
sent from the school

Applications deadline is 20 September 1999.  Applications will be available
in January 1999 from sutkusj@nsc.org.

Good luck.

Dale

Dale O. Ritzel, Ph.D., CHES, FAASE
Professor, Health Education
Director, Center for Injury Control and Worksite Health Promotion
Southern Illinois University
Carbondale, IL 62901-6731

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#2268
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:55:52 -0500
From:    Melody Madlem 
Subject: Wellness Lifestyle

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Great debate all the way around.  I just wanted to ask a clarifying
question.
It seems that the research on the impact of "fatness" on learning only
looks at the impact on children.  Do you think that impact would be less if
the "student" were an adult?  Would this factor be of greater concern in
traditional schools  (school health) as opposed to the greater community
classroom (community/public health)?

Just curious.
_______________________________________________________________
 Dr. Melody S. Madlem, Ph.D., CHES
 Asst. Professor of Health Education
 BOX 97313; Baylor University; Waco, Texas 76798-7313
 Telephone: 254/710-3505   Fax: 254/710-3527
 email address: Melody_Madlem@baylor.edu
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#2269
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:19:26 -0600
From:    Anastasia Wilczynski 
Subject: Re: faculty wellness

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  Bravo, Leslie!  While I am energized by and look forward to this
  type of controverial discussion on the HEDIR, I am saddened by
  some of the commentary.  Saddened that a group of educators who
  have the potential to influence so many young, developing minds
  is feeding into and perpetuating societal stereotypes.  I have
  many health education colleagues who are overweight and play
  sports year round on their campuses or recreation department
  teams.  I also have "ideal weight" colleagues who take serious
  sexual risks and drive while intoxicated - on a regular basis.
  Why, then, is it acceptable to refuse a potentially impactful
  eduator the right to teach what they know and love simply
  because you can see or smell their "problem?"  I would advise
  you to read Andy Frank's commentary again before passing
  judgement on someone's perceived lifestyle.  You never know what
  that svelt interview candidate is doing behind closed doors!

  Stacey Wilczynski
  Community Health Education

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FROM: Packer, Kenneth L.
TO:HEDIR-L@siu.edu
SUBJECT:
DATE: 12-02-98   10:39 EST
PRIORITY:

____________________________________________________________________________
In reading all the thoughts, comments, opinions, and data(???) about role
modeling on the part of health educators, it sounds like this is a good
topic
for someone's doctoral dissertation.  I almost used the topic myself 20
years
ago, but was writing a book at the same time, and the book was finished and
the dissertation was not.

We are all asking the questions, but do we really have good data for an
answer?  Put your students to work on this needed researchable topic.

:-)}Ken Packer

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#2271
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:12:54 -0500
From:    John Rohwer 
Subject: Research Ethics

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For those of you researchers who administer long-term studies, I have an
ethical dilemma for which I need your able assistance and guidance.

A colleague & I plan to conduct a longitudinal study utilizing a recently
developed elementary-level primary prevention eating disorder curriculum
tracking students from the 4th through the 7th grade.  Our concern is not
with the experimental groups, but rather the control groups.  The question:
How do you address/explain the ethical issues raised by exposing students
in the control groups to sensitive questions in the testing instrument,
such as body image, eating behaviors and dieting intentions, and then not
allow any form of intervention for the duration of the project?  If I had a
daughter in the 4th grade, I am not sure I would be willing to grant
permission for her to be a subject in one of the control groups for four
years.  Even as a researcher, I have a problem with administering a study
following that protocol procedure.

We would appreciate any suggestions you might provide that would maintain
quality control and still retain the integrity and dignity that human
subjects deserve in a study of this nature.

John Rohwer, EdD
Bethel College
3900 Bethel Drive
St. Paul, MN. 55112
(651)638-6391
j-rohwer@bethel.edu

John Rohwer
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#2272
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 00:09:42 +1100
From:    "Donald B. Ardell, Ph.D." 
Subject: In Favor of Requiring A Wellness Lifestyle--and Describing It!

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> Thread--Sharon Thompson's Health Promotion Faculty Position Job Description

Greetings:

Reading the reactions to the posted job description containing a phrase about
the successful candidate expected  to exhibit a wellness lifestyle, and
pondering my own response to the ad (and the commentaries) reminds me of a
parable about an American who visited Spain during the Franco regime (described
in a Wall Street Journal editorial on 6/30/98, p.A18).  The Yank wanted to know
what Spaniards thought about the dictator, so he asked a man in Madrid and was
promptly taken in three different cars to an isolated lake and then in a
rowboat to the middle of the lake, where the Spaniard looked around to make
sure no one was watching and whispered in the American's ear, "I like him."

My wellness show is this evening.  I asked a friend to send a question
reflective of this discussion to the website, where any question can be placed
at any time throughout the week--for attention during the show on Wednesday
evening.  (There is, of course, no rule or convention that would discourage me
from organizing my response to the question BEFORE the show, which I sometimes
do, time permitting, as in this case.)

Here is the question and part of the response I prepared.  I hope you enjoy
it--comments or suggestions are always invited and welcomed.  If you do not
live in a totalitarian country or work for a politically correct university,
there should be no need for travel to an isolated island to let me know what
you think.

QUESTION:  I work in health promotion and follow the news of my profession
carefully.  On a health promotion list service this week, many professionals
expressed dismay about a job ad for a health promoter position at a Southern
university that contained an explicit provision for a wellness lifestyle.
Specifically, the ad described the following qualifications: "Earned Doctorate
in Public Health or Health Promotion, evidence of scholarly productivity, and a
wellness lifestyle that reflects the philosophy of the program."  My question
to you, Don,  is this,  "Do you have any objection to such an ad?"

RESPONSE:  I have two objections: 1) that more employers in health promotion
settings and in jobs having nothing whatsoever to do with health promotion do
INSIST UPON such descriptions and qualifications; and 2) that more information
regarding the nature of a wellness lifestyle was not provided.  What a splendid
public service such an aggressive job requirement would represent IF IT WERE
COMBINED with not only a description of the nature of a wellness lifestyle (or
at least what the company thinks it is and wants it to be insofar as their
organization is concerned) but also a wellness educational mini-campaign for
all interested job applicants.

If you ask me a follow-up question, I'll discuss the nature of a wellness
lifestyle. For now, here's what I think would happen if employers identified a
wellness lifestyle as a desired quality for successful job candidates--and made
sure they hired accordingly:

***  A flurry of lawsuits. I say, "deal with them."  Are we going to allow the
lawyers to constrain innovation, creativity, constructive change, bold
initiatives, etc?  Probably.  But, maybe here and there a brave soul or company
will do the Don Quixote routine and bring down a windmill.
***  More interest in discovering what the hell a "wellness lifestyle." is all
about.
***  More energy invested contemplating whether to look into if not to
experiment with or dabble in such a regimen, if only to improve one's chances
for jobs that require it.
***  More serious commitments and ambitious initiatives to test whether or not
this wellness lifestyle idea is worth the trouble it takes to pursue.
***  Higher participation in varied wellness lifestyle programs.
***  More people struggling to maintain and improve upon the quality of their
wellness lifestyles--and succeeding.
***  More health, less illness, more life satisfaction and greater success in
realizing goals.
***  More subscribers to the ARDELL WELLNESS REPORT!

Maybe someone will ask me to describe what I think should be included in a
wellness lifestyle?  This response is already long enough so I'll wait for that
invitation.  For now, be assured it has nothing to do with freedom from all bad
habits, absence of physical or other disabilities, or anything that would rule
out or disadvantage anyone who has lifestyle qualities beyond his or her
control or choice.

For now, I recommend that the good folks who wrote the ad you mentioned modify
it immediately.  It should  suggest that a sense of humor is also expected of
all candidates.  This could be accomplished by substituting the usual
discriminatory phrase about "an affirmative action employer" (read, "white
males will be excluded, other factors being more or less equal") in favor of
the delicious send up to all discrimination heard in the movie "Life Is
Beautiful," namely, "No spiders or Visigoths allowed."


Donald B. Ardell, Ph.D., Publisher
ARDELL WELLNESS REPORT (AWR)
345 Bayshore Boulevard, # 414
Tampa, FL  33606
(813) 251-4567 E-Mail is donardell@earthlink.net

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#2273
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:12:46 -0500
From:    David Urbonas 
Subject: Wellness Lifestyle, Role Modeling, etc.

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An interesting debate.  As an outsider to the health education
profession, I wholeheartedly agree with the idea that health educators
are human.  Just like everyone else, they will occasionally stray from
the perfect "wellness lifestyle."

Acknowledging the "humanness" of everyone, why then are health
promotion/prevention recommendations often presented as rigid
requirements that don't allow for occasional lapses (is this just my
perception)?  I think this contributes to feelings that promoters of
these guidelines are hypocrites if they do not follow them religiously,
because they may appear to expect others to do so.

Also, isn't part of health education teaching people what "wellness" is
and is not?  Wellness is about preventing what's preventable by
controlling what's controllable.  It's not about feeling bad about
chronic health problems or disabilities you can't control, or judging
people who have them.  Wouldn't those health education professionals who
placed the position announcement that's been discussed understand that
wellness cannot be determined by outward appearance?  My guess is that
they are hoping that people will screen themselves out with this phrase,
as opposed to detecting "wellness flaws" through the interview process.

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#2274
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:22:06 -0500
From:    Holly Avey 
Subject: Role modeling

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Regarding the current debate on health educators and role modeling, I believe three
important issues have been left out:

MORALITY JUDGMENTS
1) It seems interesting to me that some listserve members feel the need to explain the
circumstances that have contributed to their weight problems.  If we are willing to
change our opinions of a person based on extenuating circumstances, doesn't that imply
that we are making morality judgments, not health-based judgements?  I would argue
that every person on this planet has REASONS for the health decisions they make and
the health behaviors in which they engage or don't engage.  What makes us, as a
profession, qualified to decide which reasons are acceptable and which ones aren't?
Is it ever appropriate to make allowances for the environment in which a person lives
and works, or are all health decisions solely the individual's responsibility?  I
thought our jobs were to EDUCATE, provide the skills and tools to change health
habits, and create an environment that supports changing health habits.  Why are we
making judgments at all?  (Maybe what we're really judging is people who don't agree
with us or do what we want them to do?)

IMPLICIT SUPPORT OF PUBLIC PREJUDICES
2) To follow up on that last statement, I'm sure the answer is - we have to make
judgments because the public makes judgments and some public perceptions about an
educator could negatively impact the efficacy of a program.  But at what point do we
as a profession need to take responsibility for the continuation and support of these
perceptions and prejudices?  I'm sure back in the 50s and 60s and probably 70s many
businesses argued a female consultant or presenter would not be as effective for their
all-male staffs as a male presenter would be.  And in many situations, they were
probably right - a sexist male staff would probably be more likely to disregard
information presented by a woman compared to the same information presented by a man.
But does that mean that the woman shouldn't be a presenter or that the business
shouldn't hire her?

Based on Andrew Jenkins' statistics (and thanks very much for sharing them!), with
only 4% of health educators being smokers, I think it is a very unlikely scenario to
consider hiring a smoker to conduct smoking cessation educational programming.  I
think it is more likely that a health educator would be overweight (the definition of
this is another debate altogether!), sleep-deprived, not a nutrition saint, and/or
stressed out.  Chances are an employer would be more concerned about the
overweight/over-fat person than the other health habits because being
overweight/over-fat is a much more visible trait.  If we refuse to employ a fat health
educator because the audience believes that it's not possible for a fat person to be
healthy we have just implicitly supported that public perception.

If we DO employ a fat health educator, it is true that we may lose some efficacy in
our programs (although, assuming we are talking primarily about one-time educational
presentations, the margin of efficacy lost may be negligible based on the total
efficacy of the program in the first place).  On the other hand, this diminished
efficacy may be balanced out by encouraging the people who are not turned off by the
presenter to broaden their perspectives on what/who is and is not healthy.

BALANCE VS. INDIVIDUAL HEALTH HABITS
3) Finally, it seems to me if health education programs were to focus on the concept
of BALANCING many wellness-related issues rather than continuing to educate on
individual health habits, many of our role modeling concerns would disappear.  No
matter how many of us don't smoke, eat right, get enough sleep, or manage our stress,
the vast majority of us don't do it all.  We are ALL struggling to find balance in our
lives.  And in that way, I feel like we are all positive role models to encourage
others to continue in that struggle for balance.

-- Holly Avey
hollyavey@earthlink.net

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#2275
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:51:37 -0500
From:    Elbert Glover 
Subject: Larson Comment

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Larson relayed that my remark below "was not at all true..." when I
commented, "The law tells me I cannot inquire about an applicant's tobacco
habits...."

I also received 2 personal messages noting the same thing; however, my
previous experience dictated that it "was" true.  So, assuming the policy
may have changed since my last hiring, I thought I'd re-inquire.

I contacted human resources at both the medical school and the university
and was told the same thing.  "You CANNOT ask if a person is a smoker nor
can you discriminate against a smoker.  However, if you require a non-smoker
for the job being performed then it needs to be noted in the job
requirements/criteria."

I wonder if the Coastal position which triggered the discussion knew this
and this is why they noted the "lifestyle" requirement in their position
announcement.  Finally, I don't know if this applies to obesity, "excessive
masturbaters" or other health behaviors.

Glover

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#2276
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:36:03 -0800
From:    Renee Drellishak 
Subject: Re: "wellness lifestyle"

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On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Chris Zachos wrote:
>
> If there is one thing I can not stand about our profession, it is that so many
> of my peers believe that we must "practice" what we "preach."  I am tired of
> having to meet some "standard."  We are HUMAN -- THANKFULLY!  There are a lot

I think it all depends on exactly what you're preaching. I do not preach
perfection, and I certainly don't preach avoidance of all things that
might possibly be health compromising. I see little joy in a life without
desserts, occasional couch-potato marathons, staying up too late reading a
good book, etc..

As others have mentioned, wellness is about much more than the foods you
put in your mouth (and any dietitian will tell you that salt, caffeine,
beer and whole eggs can have their place in a healthy diet). I'd like to
think that those of us (99.999%) who are not health saints are the best
kinds of role models. We show people that wellness is not an all or
nothing proposition, that it can be a fun, meaningful, and interesting way
to pursue life and that *anyone* can do it. It's attainable. I had a
student who was interested in my peer health education program ask me "Do
you have to be healthy to join?" She's an overweight young woman, and I
think the question she was really trying to ask was "Am I too fat to be in
the club?" My response to her was: "A) Define healthy; and B) Anyone who
is interested is a potential health educator, regardless of shape, size,
fitness level or smoking status. "

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.--William Blake

Renee Drellishak

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#2277
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:37:03 -0500
From:    Elaine Lawson 
Subject: IRB Issue

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In response to the individual who wrote to the list with the question about
what to do about informed consent and participation in a study involving
eating disorders:

You should not expect that your control group will not receive ANY
treatment.  They will just not receive the treatment (intervention) you are
testing.  For example, if this were a drug trial for hypertension, members
of the control group may well indeed seek treatment for their hypertension
as they would have whether they were part of a study or not.  They just
would not receive the particular drug being tested.  For your study (if I
understand correctly), one group is receiving a particular kind of eating
disorder intervention while the control group is not.  The control group
may well receive some intervention, but not the one you are administering
in your trial.

Unfortunately, this "mucks" up your data, but that is the nature of
educational research.  You will never be able to control for influences
outside of your intervention.

One other note:  if you should find that during the course of the study
your intervention seems to be so extremely effective that you may actually
bring harm to those not receiving the intervention, you should stop the
study and immediately make your findings known to everyone (publish!).

I urge you to talk to your institution's IRB about these issues.  You can
design your study with all of these factors in mind.

Hope this helps,

Elaine Lawson, M.S.
Program Officer
Institute of Medicine

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#2278
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:10:13 -0400
From:    Mike Perko 
Subject: A slight slant on the wellness issue

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        At the recent APHA conf. in D.C., I was able to review a rough
draft of the proposed Unified Code of Ethics for the Health Education
Profession.

In ARTICLE VI:  Responsibilty in Professional Preparation, SECTION 1 reads,
"Health educators select students for professional preparation based upon
equal opportunity for all, and the individuals academic performance,
abilities, and potential contribution to the profession and the public's
health."  QUESTION:  Do we now begin to weed out those students who don't
subscribe to a wellness lifestyle so that those who do can get jobs?  The
only thing I could find in the Code of Ethics regarding exercise was when
it referred to "exercising integrity."

Unless I happen to be teaching on the 3rd ring of Saturn, I would bet my
students who say they love health education are doing the same things your
students who say they love health education are doing on the weekend's
(beginning Thursday night, of course).  They are also the same students who
immediately say that health educators should be role models.  I posed this
whole dilemma to the students in my Principles of Hlth. Ed. course
yesterday as the topic was ethics (and I must say that as I was preparing
for this class this discussion hit the HEDIR and subsequentely my email.
Like the kid in Animal House, all I could say was "Thank you, God!")  In a
nutshell, discussion revolved around role models, the use of reason (as
opposed to societal popular opinion), and being human.  I urge all Prof.'s,
instructors, etc., to have these discussions with your students to find out
what they think.

Mike Perko, Ph.D., CHES
Assistant Prof. & Acting Health Coordinator
Dept. of HPER, Trask Rm. 114
University of North Carolina at Wilmington
Wilmington, NC  28403
(W) 910.962.3258
Fax 910.962.7073
perkom@uncwil.edu

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#2279
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:55:52 -0500
From:    "Mark T. Tomita" 
Subject: Role Model Instrum

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Marty, when the role model instrument has been tested, could I get a peak
at it?  Thanks.

Mark


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> FYI on the subject of health educators as role models:
>
> My graduate research methods students are developing an instrument to
> measure the extent to which the public feels that various health
> behaviors practiced by health educators impact their professional
> effectiveness and credibility.
>
> This is primarily an exercise in instrument development, designed to
> train students in item generation, pilot testing, item analysis, and
> other tasks related to creation of a survey instrument.  I do this each
> fall with my research methods class, using a topic of their choosing.
>
> For all those who are interested in the topic of health educators as
> role models, I'll let you know the results of our pilot study when they
> become available.
>
> Marty Wood
> Assistant Professor
> Dept. of Physiology & Health Science
> Ball State University
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#2280
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 05:45:05 -0600
From:    Walt Stoll 
Subject: Re: "wellness lifestyle"

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At the turn of the century (last) Maslow searched for 10 years to find
one "healthy person".  He never succeeded.

In the 40s, Roger Williams popularized the concept of "biochemical
individuality".  Carlton Fredericks & Linus Pauling tried to get us to
understand this critical concept and only now, with genetic genome
progress, are we awakening to this universal concept without which the
idea of wellness is nebulous to say the least.

Walt Stoll, MD

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>I agree with Susan. Whether it is intended or not (but most likely
>was),
>the clause is a "read between the lines" statement intended to weed
>out
>all of those who do not fit a preconceived idea of a "wellness
>lifestyle."
>
>And of course, short of checking medical records or taking hair
>samples,
>the only criteria one could possibly use to superficially discern if
>one
>was living a "wellness lifestyle" is to see what the applicant looks
>like physically. So the popular conclusion would be that if he or she
>is
>overweight...he or she must not be living the "wellness lifestyle."
>
>This strikes me as hypocritical. Are we going to confine our
>profession
>to a group of hyper-fit individuals? I believe wellness comes in all
>shapes AND sizes. If we exclude anyone from our ranks, how does that
>strengthen our cause? Diversity of health educators can help ensure
>that
>a diverse population is reached.
>
>
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#2281
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:03:13 -0600
From:    Walt Stoll 
Subject: Re: "wellness lifestyle" (H.E. is a special calling.  Why not teach
         history?)

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One of the responsibilities of a teacher is to act as an example.  If you
want the best results, you need to do that.  If it is just a "job" I
would hope that you would find another profession.

If being a "health educator" is too hard you shouldn't be one. Teach
history or something else. Unless you practice health, you won't know
what you are talking about anyhow.  One cannot learn wellness out of a
book if that is all you do.

Health is a "being" subject.  All other subjects can be "learned".  This
one has to be lived.

The time is past when "do as I say, not as I do" is good enough.  It
should never have been!

Walt Stoll, MD


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>Bravo! Walter -- Bravo!
>
>If there is one thing I can not stand about our profession, it is that
>so many
>of my peers believe that we must "practice" what we "preach."  I am
>tired of
>having to meet some "standard."  We are HUMAN -- THANKFULLY!  There
>are a lot
>of things that I do that are in direct conflict with the beneficial
>health
>information that I am surrounded by on a daily basis.
>MMM....MMMM...MMMM --
>Boy do I love: salt, caffeine (God I love it), a beer (and better, a
>glass or
>two of wine :0),  extra bacon with my whole eggs, etc...  )  Why?
>Could it
>be because I am HUMAN?   Sure, I do the best I can to practice what I
>preach.
>But damnit, sometimes I want to "practice" bad things too.  I am HUMAN
>HUMAN
>HUMAN!
>
>Chris Zachos
>Graduate Student
>Emerson College/Tuft's University School of Medicine
>Health Communication Program
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#2282
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:43:46 -0600
From:    Barbara Ellen Giloth 
Subject: Re: Research Ethics

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One way to handle this problem, depending on the nature of the
intervention is to have the control group receive "usual education" or a
more didactic version of the curriculum you are testing. Lamb and others
just did this in a randomized controled trial of risk reduction counseling
for HIV/STD prevention (See JAMA Oct. 7, 1998) although with an older
population.

Barbara E. Giloth, MPH, CHES
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#2283
Date:    Thu, 3 Dec 1998 00:47:54 -0500
From:    "Darrell Crase, PhD" 
Subject: Enough!

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About the "wellness lifestyle" expatiation, it is clearly time for the fat lady to sing.

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#2284
Date:    Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:07:50 -0800
From:    Renee Drellishak 
Subject: NEVER! Re: Enough!

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a) This has been an interesting and relevant discussion for a lot of
people.