#1081
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:48:54 -0700
From: Darlene Clees
Subject: 2 Job announcements
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I will be leaving my position on June 15 with the
Valdosta Health District. I have been in this position
for almost 13 years. My position is being divided into
two different positions, Public Health Educator and
Youth Development Coordinator. The close date for
applications is June 9, 2000.
1st position-Position #- 70701- Public Health
Educator- Georgia Department of Human Resources,
Valdosta Health District, Women's Health Program- pay
grade 13H
General Nature of work- Under limited supervision,
provides health education services for the Women's
Health Program, District 8-1 Public Health (includes
Ben Hill, Berrien, Brooks, Cook Echols, Irwin, Lanier,
Lowndes, Tift and Turner counties). Assesses
individual and community health education needs.
Plans and evaluates effectiveness of health education
programs. Provides information to the public regarding
health education concerns and resources. Coordinates
community health education programs and serves as a
resource person for health education in the district.
Qualifications- Completion of a course of study
equivalent to a Master's Degree in Health Education
**OR** completion of an undergraduate major in
education, the social, behavioral or biological
sciences or a directly related field; and one year of
experience in public health education.
Other desired qualifications- Experience working with
adolescents; ability to communicate (both verbally and
in writing); ability to perform multiple tasks and to
work effectively and efficiently under pressure;
experience in conducting group presentations, training
and facilitating before diverse groups of individuals;
computer literacy and excellent interpersonal skills.
Contact person- Lynne Casey, District 8-1 Health
Office, P.O. Box 5147, Valdosta, Georgia 31603
Telephone# 912-333-5290. Web site for applications-
www.GMS.State.Ga.US
2nd position- position #-61096- Youth Development
Coordinator, Georgia Department of Human Resources,
Valdosta Health District, Women's Health Program, pay
grade 14
General nature of work- Under limited supervision,
coordinates and monitors the development and
implementation of a district-wide, community based,
collaborative youth development program. Serves as
the principal agent in organizing community
stakeholders and resources to identify proactive and
effective solutions/services for youth related
problems, issues and concerns. Guides and oversees
the distribution of resources directed at youth
development throughout the Valdosta Health District
(Ben Hill, Berrien, Brooks, Cook, Echols, Irwin,
Lanier, Lowndes, Tift and Turner counties) May prepare
and or coordinate contracts and agreements.
Qualifications- Completion of a Bachelor's degree in
social work, health education, nursing, education,
psychology, counseling or related areas AND two years
experience in social services or community health
which included significant involvement in community
development activities ( i.e. needs assessments,
program planning or community data analysis **OR**
completion of a Master's degree in social work, health
education, nursing, education, psychology, counseling
or a related area AND one year of professional work
experience in social services or community health
which included significant involvement in community
development activities (i.e. needs assessment, program
planning or community data analysis).
Preference will be given to applicants who, in
addition to meeting the minimum qualifications
possesses one or more of the following: experience
working with youth in community services, counseling,
education or public health; experience making
presentations to large groups and experience working
in non-profit or governmental organization.
Contact person- Lynne Casey, District 8-1 Health
Office, P.O. Box 5147, Valdosta, Georgia 31603; phone
912-333-5290 Web site for applications-
www.GMS.State.Ga.US
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#1082
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:56:30 -0400
From: Isabel Burk
Subject: CSAP model prevention programs
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Dear colleagues,
The U.S. Center for Substance Abuse Prevention (CSAP) has just released
a new list of model programs, most suitable for schoolage populations.
>From their website:
"CSAP supports scientifically proven substance abuse prevention model
programs. Through strategic interventions, these programs have
consistently provided short- and long-term positive results for
children,
families, and communities.
Click for a one page overview of all the Model Programs. For more
indepth information click on the Model Program links listed below."
http://www.samhsa.gov/csap/modelprograms/
--
Isabel Burk, M.S., CHES
The Health Network
(914) 638-3569 fax: (914) 638-1928
E-mail: iburk@idt.net
www.healthnetwork.org
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#1083
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 17:58:45 -0400
From: Isabel Burk
Subject: Article about school nurses
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FYI, recent article about school nurses
SCHOOL NURSES FILL MANY ROLES
School nurses fill a health-care niche that requires broad skills for
the
increasing numbers of school-age children with medical needs that go
beyond
simple first aid for cuts and bruises. There are children with fragile
health and life-threatening allergies as well as day-to-day emergencies
such as broken bones and head injuries. School nurses also do paperwork
for
vision and hearing screenings, immunizations and more. Children with
disabilities may have special medical needs, as well as students in
regular
classrooms who may be recovering from cancer or those suffering from
asthma
or diabetes. Children with numerous disabilities may need help with
feeding
tubes. The nurse is often a child's initial health-care contact and may
be
a major source of primary care for some kids. While the need for school
nurses grows, school budgets often limit the services provided in
districts
where administrators must choose between teachers and nurses. Some
schools
have hired "health room assistants" who are trained in CPR and
non-nursing
duties. The typical school nurse comes equipped with experience gained
in
emergency rooms, pediatrics clinics and other settings. Schools often do
not pay as well as private settings and many say they do it for the
service
component and because they like working with children.
Suzanne Monson, "It's more than aspirin and Band-aids"
The Seattle Times, May 21, 2000, I1
(http://www.seattletimes.com)
--
Isabel Burk, M.S., CHES
The Health Network
(914) 638-3569 fax: (914) 638-1928
E-mail: iburk@idt.net
www.healthnetwork.org
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#1084
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 21:35:41 -0500
From: Michael Pejsach
Subject: Fun, Part Time School Health Education
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My apologies, in advance, for the cross posting. Thank you.
Posted for Janet Trost
-------------------------
Creative Employment Opportunity
SchoolCare, LLC, a Michigan based health education company, is looking
for health or education professionals in the Detroit, Chicago,
Cleveland, Minneapolis and Pittsburgh metropolitan area to provide an
innovative, year-long health education program to children in local
elementary schools. Through the use of a puppet character, Nurse Rosy
Goodhealth, children are provided with a comprehensive, health
curriculum. The following position is currently available:
Program Guides
Guides provide classroom instruction in an exciting, entertaining
delivery format. Note: No ventriloquist or puppetry skills are needed!
This position is ideal for the professional in areas of education,
health or human services interested in building a part-time work
schedule around the needs of their family, other part time work or
retirement activities. Guides work from 4 ? 10 days per month. All
materials and training are provided to the Guides.
Please fax resumes with area of interest to Janet Trost at (734)
266-8233 or e-mail jtrost@ili.net for additional information.
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Voice: (734) 552-7094; fax: (504) 467-6039
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MI Home voice: (517) 773-0966. or,
Voice: (734) 552-7094
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#1085
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:45:59 -0700
From: Caryl Carapezzi
Subject: stress management
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I am looking for a stress management program to
implement in a worksite setting. More specifically, I
am interested in a program for our police and fire
department.
I am not interested in any stress management workshops
involving a day of lectures, but more of a 6, 8 or 10
week stress management program. Any suggestions that
I can research would be greatly appreciated.
=====
Caryl Carapezzi
Wellness Coordinator
City of Missoula, MT
406 542-5161
wellnesswins@yahoo.com
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#1086
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 08:10:17 -0400
From: "Karen Denard Goldman & Robert L. Goldman"
Subject: Re: Article about school nurses
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Isabel and colleagues:
I hope that we do something like this article for health education and health
educators for National Health Education Week, October 19-22, 2000.
FYI, SOPHE has a model "Dear Abby" letter that you may want to share with your
local newspapers that week. The letter talks about health educators as one of
the best kept secrets in the health industry. The letter is being finalized
this week and should be available on the SOPHE website by September (?). The
letter is a product of the External Communications Committee of SOPHE. We
hope you find it useful.
More information on National Health Education Week will be posted next week.
kdg, Chair, External Communications Committee, SOPHE; NHEW Planning Committee
At 05:58 PM 6/3/00 -0400, Isabel Burk wrote:
>** Special IEJHE Issue: http://www.iejhe.siu.edu
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http://www.hpcareer.net/hedir.htm
>
>FYI, recent article about school nurses
>
>SCHOOL NURSES FILL MANY ROLES
>School nurses fill a health-care niche that requires broad skills for
>the
>increasing numbers of school-age children with medical needs that go
>beyond
>simple first aid for cuts and bruises. There are children with fragile
>health and life-threatening allergies as well as day-to-day emergencies
>such as broken bones and head injuries. School nurses also do paperwork
>for
>vision and hearing screenings, immunizations and more. Children with
>disabilities may have special medical needs, as well as students in
>regular
>classrooms who may be recovering from cancer or those suffering from
>asthma
>or diabetes. Children with numerous disabilities may need help with
>feeding
>tubes. The nurse is often a child's initial health-care contact and may
>be
>a major source of primary care for some kids. While the need for school
>nurses grows, school budgets often limit the services provided in
>districts
>where administrators must choose between teachers and nurses. Some
>schools
>have hired "health room assistants" who are trained in CPR and
>non-nursing
>duties. The typical school nurse comes equipped with experience gained
>in
>emergency rooms, pediatrics clinics and other settings. Schools often do
>not pay as well as private settings and many say they do it for the
>service
>component and because they like working with children.
>
> Suzanne Monson, "It's more than aspirin and Band-aids"
> The Seattle Times, May 21, 2000, I1
> (http://www.seattletimes.com)
>
>
>--
>Isabel Burk, M.S., CHES
>The Health Network
>(914) 638-3569 fax: (914) 638-1928
>E-mail: iburk@idt.net
>www.healthnetwork.org
>
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>**
http://www.kittle.siu.edu/sponsor.html
>
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#1087
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 10:48:08 -0400
From: Becky Smith
Subject: Liability Insurance
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this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
<>
In recent weeks there have been some questions about access to libility
insurance for students while they are doing their internships and/or student
teaching.
The attachment I am forwarding explains libility insurance available to both
Students and Professionals through AAHE/AAHPERD - it also provides a contact
number for the insurance company. I hope this is of assistance
Becky J. Smith, Ph.D, CHES, CAE
Executive Director
American Association for Health Education
1900 Association Dr.
Reston, VA 20191
703-476-3437
Fax: 703-476-6638
email: bsmith@aahperd.org
http://www.aahperd.org/aahe
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#1088
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 14:08:44 -0600
From: Michael McNeil
Subject: AOD Policy and Athletes Summary
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My apologies for the delay in sharing the responses to my earlier
question. I received only three replies - two are text below and one is
an attached word document.
REPLY ONE
Have you been in touch with the University of Virginia? They run a
program
called APPLE, Athlete Prevention Programming and Leadership Education.
APPLE is sponsored by the NCAA, UVA has some great policy
development/revision recommendations + a wide range of sample policies
from
schools throughout the country. I'd recommend speaking with Joe Gieck,
Head
Athletic Trainer and APPLE Project Coordinator, I believe you can reach
the
APPLE program at (804) 924-5276. I can send you some information on the
Stanford University policy early next week. I'll be away from the
office
until early next week. Let me know if you have any trouble reaching UVA.
REPLY TWO
thank you for your e-mail. We do not have a formal written
AOD policy for intercollegiate athletes that is different from our
campus-wide policy. We do have a group of Student-Athlete Mentors
(SAMs) that are working with a group of coaches to formulate
guidelines for the use of alcohol on recruiting trips. i suspect this
group is going to address the overall AOD policy for athletes. Thanks
for your interest.
In health,
Michael
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Michael P. McNeil, M.S.
Health Promotions Coordinator
Oswego State University
LifeStyles Center, WHC #10
Oswego, NY 13126
(315) 312-5648 phone
(315) 312-5409 fax
Laughter is the most healthful exertion.
- Christoph Wildelm Hufeland
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#1089
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 15:11:16 -0700
From: Caryl Carapezzi
Subject: stress management
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Caryl,
You might want to check out two of our college level textbooks and our
workbook on stress management. You can get basic information on them at our
website. Go to the health page as marked below and click on stress
management. The workbook has activities and assessments.
Pam
Pamela S. Cooper
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#1090
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 15:12:17 -0700
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Caryl,
I teach an 8-week stress management program in an outpatient clinic of
an urban hospital for the indigent in Atlanta.
Some of the books I have found particularly helpful in creating this
program are:
* The Healthy Mind Healthy Body Handbook by David Sobel and Robert
Ornstein
* Mind/Body Health - The Effects of Attitudes, Emotions and
Relationships by Brent Q. Hafen, Keith J. Karren, Kathryn J.
Frandsen, and N. Lee Smith
* Wherever You Go There You Are by Jon Kabat-Zinn
* Beyond the Relaxation Response by Herbert Benson
* Healthy Pleasures by Robert Ornstein and David Sobel
There are many other books I could recommend, but those are the ones
most applicable to programming.
In addition, here are a few websites that might provide you with the
leads you're looking for:
Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction - this website features information
on the type of stress reduction called "mindfulness" advocated by Jon
Kabat-Zinn, PhD, author of Full Catastrophe Living and Wherever You Go,
There You Are. The techniques usually include meditation, yoga, and
"mindfulness", which encourages participants to engage their mind fully
in an activity in the present, rather than worrying about the past or
the future.
http://www.mbsr.com/index.html
Mind-Body Medical Institute - this website is based on the "relaxation
response" as identified by Herbert Benson, MD, author of The Relaxation
Response and Beyond the Relaxation Response. Dr. Benson's philosphy is
that the most important issue is eliciting the relaxation response,
which can be brought about by meditation, diaphragmatic breathing, yoga,
guided imagery, progressive muscle relaxation, and repetitive prayer.
They also include some cognitive restructuring elements in their
programming. The website features information on their clinic (in
Boston), their training programs, and their affiliates. I have been
through their one-week training program in clinical mind-body medicine.
It was helpful, but exhorbitantly expensive, and most of the information
presented I had already read about elsewhere. They seem very focused on
finances, and will not be likely to share many details with you without
a fee. But I'd be happy to tell you anything you'd like to know from
the training I went to! ;-)
http://www.mindbody.harvard.edu/
American Institute of Stress - this website is a national organization
for those specializing in the research or practice of stress or stress
management. They might be able to refer you to professionals in your
area who teach stress management programs.
http://www.stress.org/
If you have any questions about any of this info, just let me know. I'd
be happy to discuss this issue in more detail with you.
-- Holly
Holly Avey, MPH
Health Educator, Office of Health Promotion
Grady Health System, Atlanta GA
404-616-7561, havey@emory.edu
Caryl Carapezzi wrote:
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>
> I am looking for a stress management program to
> implement in a worksite setting. More specifically, I
> am interested in a program for our police and fire
> department.
>
> I am not interested in any stress management workshops
> involving a day of lectures, but more of a 6, 8 or 10
> week stress management program. Any suggestions that
> I can research would be greatly appreciated.
>
> =====
> Caryl Carapezzi
> Wellness Coordinator
> City of Missoula, MT
> 406 542-5161
> wellnesswins@yahoo.com
>
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#1090
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 15:18:19 -0700
From: Caryl Carapezzi
Subject: Fwd: Re: stress management
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Caryl,
I just finished my thesis on stress management
techniques for secretaries. However, a lot of the
research I found was on police officers and EMT's.
A popular stress management technique being used for
these occupations is Progressive Muscle Relaxation.
You may want to try this because it is east to do and
only takes about 15-20 minutes.
Sincerely,
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#1091
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 15:19:23 -0700
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Caryl,
Have you looked at the American Heart Association's "Heart at Work"
program? Several of the modules relate to different aspects of stress
management. You could also contact them and ask for their suggestions
(1-800-AHA-USA1).
Karen Metzler
Health Educator
Covington Health Department
Covington, VA
Caryl Carapezzi wrote:
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> I am looking for a stress management program to
> implement in a worksite setting. More specifically, I
> am interested in a program for our police and fire
> department.
>
> I am not interested in any stress management workshops
> involving a day of lectures, but more of a 6, 8 or 10
> week stress management program. Any suggestions that
> I can research would be greatly appreciated.
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#1092
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 09:35:24 -0700
From: Joe Zoske
Subject: Men's health resource-FYI
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A special men's health issue of the Journal of American College Health
has just been published. This is the first issue of a U.S.
professional health or medical journal devoted entirely to the topic.
The Journal of Men's Studies shall be doing the same next year. I am an
advisor to them, and we are just beginning our manuscript review
process.
Joe
__________________________________________
MEN’S HEALTH: A THEME ISSUE
JOURNAL OF AMERICAN COLLEGE HEALTH, VOL 48, NO 6
Editorial:
Men, Gender, and Health: Toward an Interdisciplinary Approach
~ Courtenay, W.H. (Guest Editor), & Keeling, R.P.
Understanding Men’s Health and Illness: A Gender-relations Approach to
Policy, Research and Practice
~ Schofield, T., Connell, R.W., Wood, J., Butland, D., & Walker, L.
Identifying Male College Students’ Perceived Health Needs, Barriers to
Seeking Help, and Recommendations to Help Men Adopt Healthier Lifestyles
~ Davies, J., McCrae, B.P., Frank, J., Dochnahl, A., Pickering, T.,
Harrison, B., Zakrzewski, M., & Wilson, K.
Toward a Transformed Approach to Prevention: Breaking the Link Between
Masculinity and Violence
~ Hong, L.
College Men’s Health in Practice: A Multidisciplinary Approach
~ Rogers, W.M., Harb, K., Lappin, M., & Colbert, J.
Why Do Men Get More Heart Disease than Women? An International
Perspective
~ Weidner, G.
An Exploration of the Drive for Muscularity in Adolescent Boys and Girls
~ McCreary, D.R., & Sasse, D.K.
Why College Men Drink: Alcohol, Adventure, and the Paradox of
Masculinity
~ Capraro, R.L.
__________________________________________
Special issue contributors to be published in subsequent JACH issues (in
alphabetical order):
Masculinity and Men's Mental Health
~ Brooks, G.R.
Men’s Reproductive and Sexual Health
~ Forrest, K.
Out of Harmony: Health Problems and Young American Indian/Alaska Native
Men
~ Joe, J.
The Masculine Gender Role and Cancer: Risk Factor Behaviors, Early
Detection, and Psychosocial Adaptation
~ Nicholas, D.R.
Primary Care for African American Young Men
~ Rich, J.A.
Men's Health Studies: Origins and Trends
~ Sabo, D.
Developing a College Men's Growth Group
~ Vareldzis, B., & Andronico, M.
======================
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#1093
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:01:11 -0400
From: "MAHONEY, COLLEEN"
Subject: portfolios
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Hi!
Does anyone have suggestions for good resources (websites, documents,
etc) for portfolio development? Thanks! Colleen
cmahoney@educ.kent.edu
Colleen Mahoney, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor, Health Education
Director, Center for Health Promotion
ACHVE Department, 316 White Hall
Kent State University
Kent OH 44242
330-672-0678; Fax 330-672-3063
http://www.peak-assets.net
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#1094
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 09:59:35 -0500
From: "Mary A. Wyandt, MEd, CHES"
Subject: Scripts for sexual assault risk reduction needed
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Dear Colleagues,
Please excuse the multiple postings if you receive this message more than
once. I am in search of some examples of good, short scripts to be used by
orientation leaders for peer education about sexual assault risk reduction.
If you have one that you are able to share, please forward it to me as an
attachment or fax it to me at 501-575-7438. Your assistance is greatly
appreciated.
Sincerely,
Mary A. Wyandt
Mary A. Wyandt, MEd, CHES Phone: 501-575-7252
Health Educator Fax: 501-575-7438
University Health Center E-mail: mwyandt@comp.uark.edu
University of Arkansas
600 Razorback Road "HAVE A NICE DAY" :=)
Fayetteville, AR 72701
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#1095
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:08:48 -0400
From: Kathryn Hilgenkamp
Subject: Faculty position announcement
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Faculty Position
Assistant Professor of Physical Education: Coastal Carolina
University, College of Education, announces a full-time, tenure track
position beginning August 2000. Applicants should have an earned
doctorate with a specialization in the area of physical
education/exercise science, evidence of scholarly activities, skills
in the applications of technology to instruction; affiliation with
ACSM and knowledge of ACSM certification programs desirable.
Responsibilities will include instruction in the area of exercise
physiology, kinesiology, biomechanics, and other related areas, e.g.,
sports medicine. Successful candidates will need a strong commitment
to both teaching effectiveness and scholarship.
Coastal Carolina University is a public, primarily undergraduate
institution with an enrollment of approximately 4,600 students and
over 200 faculty located between Conway and Myrtle Beach, S.C. The
College of Education is one of two professional colleges on campus
with over 800 majors in 15 programs offered. Applicants should send a
letter of application, current vita, transcripts, and three (3)
current letters of recommendation to: Office of the Dean, College of
Education, Coastal Carolina University, P.O. Box 261954, Conway, SC
29528-6054. Screening of applicants will begin on June 26, 2000 and
continue until position is filled.
Coastal Carolina University is an EO/AA employer.
Kathryn D. Hilgenkamp-Rodgers, Ed.D., C.H.E.S.
Assistant Professor of Health Promotion
College of Education
Coastal Carolina University
P. O. Box 261954
Conway, SC 29528
Phone: (843) 349-2687
E-mail: kathryn@coastal.edu
"The only truly important thing we do is have a positive effect on another person's life".
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#1096
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:02:26 -0400
From: Sandy Bargainnier
Subject: Re: portfolios
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Check out the following web site for a good portfolio "how to" guide
www.pde.psu.edu/pssa/esstand/html
once you arrive here click on the following link: Portfolio Implementation
Guide
Good luck
Sandy Bargainnier
"Exercise and recreation...are as necessary as reading. I will rather say
more necessary, because health is worth more than learning."- Thomas
Jefferson
Sandra Bargainnier Ed.D. CHES
Kinesiology Department
267-N Recreation Building
Penn State University
University Park, PA., 16802-5701
phone: 814-865-1601
e-mail: ssb5@psu.edu
----- Original Message -----
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To:
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 10:01 AM
Subject: portfolios
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> Hi!
>
> Does anyone have suggestions for good resources (websites, documents,
> etc) for portfolio development? Thanks! Colleen
> cmahoney@educ.kent.edu
> Colleen Mahoney, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor, Health Education
> Director, Center for Health Promotion
> ACHVE Department, 316 White Hall
> Kent State University
> Kent OH 44242
> 330-672-0678; Fax 330-672-3063
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#1097
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:52:58 -0400
From: "MAHONEY, COLLEEN"
Subject: Re: portfolios
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Thanks!
Date sent: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:02:26 -0400
Send reply to: Sandy Bargainnier
From: Sandy Bargainnier
Subject: Re: portfolios
To: HEDIR-L@SIU.EDU
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> Check out the following web site for a good portfolio "how to" guide
>
> www.pde.psu.edu/pssa/esstand/html
>
> once you arrive here click on the following link: Portfolio Implementation
> Guide
>
> Good luck
>
> Sandy Bargainnier
>
> "Exercise and recreation...are as necessary as reading. I will rather say
> more necessary, because health is worth more than learning."- Thomas
> Jefferson
>
>
> Sandra Bargainnier Ed.D. CHES
> Kinesiology Department
> 267-N Recreation Building
> Penn State University
> University Park, PA., 16802-5701
> phone: 814-865-1601
> e-mail: ssb5@psu.edu
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MAHONEY, COLLEEN
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 10:01 AM
> Subject: portfolios
>
>
> > ** Special IEJHE Issue: http://www.iejhe.siu.edu
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> > ** More info: http://www.hpcareer.net/hedir.htm
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Does anyone have suggestions for good resources (websites, documents,
> > etc) for portfolio development? Thanks! Colleen
> > cmahoney@educ.kent.edu
> > Colleen Mahoney, Ph.D.
> > Assistant Professor, Health Education
> > Director, Center for Health Promotion
> > ACHVE Department, 316 White Hall
> > Kent State University
> > Kent OH 44242
> > 330-672-0678; Fax 330-672-3063
> > http://www.peak-assets.net
> >
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> >
>
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cmahoney@educ.kent.edu
Colleen Mahoney, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor, Health Education
Director, Center for Health Promotion
ACHVE Department, 316 White Hall
Kent State University
Kent OH 44242
330-672-0678; Fax 330-672-3063
http://www.peak-assets.net
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#1098
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 15:15:00 -0700
From: Tom Stubberud
Subject: Outreach Strategies & Outlines
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I am putting together a training for community-based outreach staff
for outreach to link families/kids to Healthy Families health insurance.
I have been trying in vain to search on the web for outlines for outreach
strategies and I'm not getting very far. Does anyone have any
electronic links (or outreach training materials) that they can share
with me? Thanks in advance to all that respond.
Tom Stubberud, MPH
Program Manager
Partners for Community Access
Tom.Stubberud@pphs.org
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#1099
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 20:35:58 -0700
From: Margo Harris
Subject: Re: portfolios
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Actually, you'll have better luck if you edit the address removing the last
"/" and replacing it with a "." Then follow the link. IF you search the PSU
site, you will find several other portfolio examples.
Here's a Canadian example of portfolios -
http://www.edu.uleth.ca/fe/ppd/contents.html
Not happy with your portfolio?
http://www.rmcdenver.com/useguide/assessme/portfoli.htm
Margo
Margo Harris
Harris Training & Consulting Services
Seattle, WA
Email: margo@htcs.com
Internet: www.htcs.com
"I know God won't give me anything I can't handle.
I just wish (s)he didn't trust me so much." Mother Theresa
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy Bargainnier"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: portfolios
> ** Special IEJHE Issue: http://www.iejhe.siu.edu
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>
> Check out the following web site for a good portfolio "how to" guide
>
> www.pde.psu.edu/pssa/esstand/html
>
> once you arrive here click on the following link: Portfolio Implementation
> Guide
>
> Good luck
>
> Sandy Bargainnier
>
> "Exercise and recreation...are as necessary as reading. I will rather say
> more necessary, because health is worth more than learning."- Thomas
> Jefferson
>
>
> Sandra Bargainnier Ed.D. CHES
> Kinesiology Department
> 267-N Recreation Building
> Penn State University
> University Park, PA., 16802-5701
> phone: 814-865-1601
> e-mail: ssb5@psu.edu
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MAHONEY, COLLEEN
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 10:01 AM
> Subject: portfolios
>
>
> > ** Special IEJHE Issue: http://www.iejhe.siu.edu
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> > ** More info: http://www.hpcareer.net/hedir.htm
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Does anyone have suggestions for good resources (websites, documents,
> > etc) for portfolio development? Thanks! Colleen
> > cmahoney@educ.kent.edu
> > Colleen Mahoney, Ph.D.
> > Assistant Professor, Health Education
> > Director, Center for Health Promotion
> > ACHVE Department, 316 White Hall
> > Kent State University
> > Kent OH 44242
> > 330-672-0678; Fax 330-672-3063
> > http://www.peak-assets.net
> >
> > ** Thanks to the Individuals Sponsoring the HEDIR:
> > ** http://www.kittle.siu.edu/sponsor.html
> >
>
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#1100
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:41:40 -0400
From: Sandy Bargainnier
Subject: Re: portfolios
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Second attempt for the PA Dept of Ed www site on Portfolios:
go to www.pde.psu.edu
go to K-12 schools and use the selection box to scroll to "Assessment"
Once you are on the assessment and Standards page you will find the
portfolio guide.
Good Luck!
Sandy Bargainnier
"Exercise and recreation...are as necessary as reading. I will rather say
more necessary, because health is worth more than learning."- Thomas
Jefferson
Sandra Bargainnier Ed.D. CHES
Kinesiology Department
267-N Recreation Building
Penn State University
University Park, PA., 16802-5701
phone: 814-865-1601
e-mail: ssb5@psu.edu
----- Original Message -----
From: MAHONEY, COLLEEN
To:
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 10:01 AM
Subject: portfolios
> ** Special IEJHE Issue: http://www.iejhe.siu.edu
> ** Thanks for supporting the HEDIR by Advertising Jobs!
> ** More info: http://www.hpcareer.net/hedir.htm
>
> Hi!
>
> Does anyone have suggestions for good resources (websites, documents,
> etc) for portfolio development? Thanks! Colleen
> cmahoney@educ.kent.edu
> Colleen Mahoney, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor, Health Education
> Director, Center for Health Promotion
> ACHVE Department, 316 White Hall
> Kent State University
> Kent OH 44242
> 330-672-0678; Fax 330-672-3063
> http://www.peak-assets.net
>
> ** Thanks to the Individuals Sponsoring the HEDIR:
> ** http://www.kittle.siu.edu/sponsor.html
>
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#1101
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:27:57 -0500
From: David Wiley
Subject: [Fwd: Fwd: Dr Laura]
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Dear Colleagues,
I seldom post these types of things, but I thought this one was pretty
interesting. I apologize if everyone in the universe has seen this,
except for me!!
dCW
--
David C. Wiley, Ph.D.
Professor of Health Education
HPER Department
Southwest Texas State University
San Marcos, TX 78666
(512) 245-2946 (o)
(512) 245-8678 (f)
Please visit my web page at http://www.ati.swt.edu/dw13/
Someone sent a copy of a letter they sent to Dr Laura to
my cousin the rabbi and he sent it to me ,,,, thot you'd be
interested in it, too. ]v[arsha
Dear Dr. Laura,
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's law. I
have
learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that knowledge with
as
many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual
lifestyle,
for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states
it to
be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you,
however,
regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.
When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a
pleasing
odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim
the
odor is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this?
I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in
Exodus
21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for
her?
I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her
period
of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I
tell?
I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
Lev. 25:44 states that I may buy slaves from the nations that are
around us.
A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans but not
Canadians.
Can you clarify?
I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2
clearly
states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him
myself?
A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an
abomination
(Lev. 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't
agree.
Can you settle this?
Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a
defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does
my
vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident
you can
help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and
unchanging.
(My comment: How do we deal with adulterers since the penalty is the
same
as the homosexuality reference. Since there is a possibility that 40%
of
the
married population has committed adultery, should they all be wiped
out?
Who is going to initiate this action? Maybe Dr. Laura.)
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#1102
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:57:01 PDT
From: laurie schierer
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Fwd: Dr Laura]
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David, I hadn't seen this piece. THANKS for sharing.
>From: David Wiley
>Reply-To: David Wiley
>To: HEDIR-L@SIU.EDU
>Subject: [Fwd: Fwd: Dr Laura]
>Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:27:57 -0500
>
>Dear Colleagues,
>
>I seldom post these types of things, but I thought this one was pretty
>interesting. I apologize if everyone in the universe has seen this,
>except for me!!
>
>dCW
>
>--
>David C. Wiley, Ph.D.
>Professor of Health Education
>HPER Department
>Southwest Texas State University
>San Marcos, TX 78666
>(512) 245-2946 (o)
>(512) 245-8678 (f)
>
>Please visit my web page at http://www.ati.swt.edu/dw13/
>
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#1103
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:27:54 -0700
From: Andrew Jenkins
Subject: Intolerance on the HEDIR?
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Dr. Wiley et al,
I trust the "Letter to Dr. Laura " post was meant to be funny and I believe that humor is a necessary and often neglected part of discussions of culture and religion but humor can be a gift or a weapon, it can bring people together or it can tear groups apart.
I believe the purpose of the "Dr.Laura" sattire was to present the inconsistencies and problems with interpretation of the Bible directly in modern times. Moreover, it derives it's humor from poking fun at Dr. Laura who, to many listeners, comes off as irritating, pious, and condescending. Nonetheless, I find it is disturbing to see that some individuals whom I presume are highly educated and attuned to the sensitivity of various cultures and religious beliefs would use this forum to make a mockery of the foundation and historical roots of an established religion.
This might well be an instance where the application of the Rule of Role Reversal would reveal a selective "tolerance for intolerance." Simply, it works this way: If you can change the character in a joke from a man to a woman or change the race of the stooge and then tell the joke in a crowded party, would it be met with the same level of acceptance or would you be bopped on the beak? If it doesn't retain its humor¯it wasn't funny to begin with.
If the Rule were applied in this particular instance I can't imagine the same reception on the HEDIR if a member had posted a denigrating farce on the Jewish or Muslim faiths or the Koran or the Torah. An alternate spoof on the sacred writings of another religion would likely be seen as a culturally insensitive and ignorant blunder. I doubt that many people would openly cheer and post their "attaboys" on the HEDIR. The author of such a post would likely be labeled as an insensitive bigot and heated diatribes would pelt his electronic mailbox like Texas hailstones.
I know that many in health education have been frustrated by the efforts of certain special interest groups and/or religions to suppress programs or curriculum but nonetheless, this does not give license to us, the highly Educated, Worldly, and Enlightened, to make a public mockery of the fundamental beliefs and historical writings of the groups and cultures who oppose us. A more sensitive, intellectual, and critically thought out approach might be considered. Simply put, we can not wave our fist and demand tolerance and diversity with one hand whilst whumping a selected "wrong thinking" group on the head with the other.
A Friday Inspirational quote to ponder a day or two early:
Whoever kindles the flames of intolerance in America is lighting a fire beneath his own home." Harold Stassen
Andy J :{)
>>> laurie schierer - 6/7/00 9:57 AM >>>
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David, I hadn't seen this piece. THANKS for sharing.
>From: David Wiley
>Reply-To: David Wiley
>To: HEDIR-L@SIU.EDU
>Subject: [Fwd: Fwd: Dr Laura]
>Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:27:57 -0500
>
>Dear Colleagues,
>
>I seldom post these types of things, but I thought this one was pretty
>interesting. I apologize if everyone in the universe has seen this,
>except for me!!
>
>dCW
>
>--
>David C. Wiley, Ph.D.
>Professor of Health Education
>HPER Department
>Southwest Texas State University
>San Marcos, TX 78666
>(512) 245-2946 (o)
>(512) 245-8678 (f)
>
>Please visit my web page at http://www.ati.swt.edu/dw13/
>
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#1104
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 13:42:46 -0500
From: David Wiley
Subject: Re: Intolerance on the HEDIR?
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Andy,
Actually I was just waiting to see how long it would take someone to analyze every sentence, word and punctuation mark.
DCW
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> Dr. Wiley et al,
>
> I trust the "Letter to Dr. Laura " post was meant to be funny and I believe that humor is a necessary and often neglected part of discussions of culture and religion but humor can be a gift or a weapon, it can bring people together or it can tear groups apart.
>
> I believe the purpose of the "Dr.Laura" sattire was to present the inconsistencies and problems with interpretation of the Bible directly in modern times. Moreover, it derives it's humor from poking fun at Dr. Laura who, to many listeners, comes off as irritating, pious, and condescending. Nonetheless, I find it is disturbing to see that some individuals whom I presume are highly educated and attuned to the sensitivity of various cultures and religious beliefs would use this forum to make a mockery of the foundation and historical roots of an established religion.
>
> This might well be an instance where the application of the Rule of Role Reversal would reveal a selective "tolerance for intolerance." Simply, it works this way: If you can change the character in a joke from a man to a woman or change the race of the stooge and then tell the joke in a crowded party, would it be met with the same level of acceptance or would you be bopped on the beak? If it doesn't retain its humor¯it wasn't funny to begin with.
>
> If the Rule were applied in this particular instance I can't imagine the same reception on the HEDIR if a member had posted a denigrating farce on the Jewish or Muslim faiths or the Koran or the Torah. An alternate spoof on the sacred writings of another religion would likely be seen as a culturally insensitive and ignorant blunder. I doubt that many people would openly cheer and post their "attaboys" on the HEDIR. The author of such a post would likely be labeled as an insensitive bigot and heated diatribes would pelt his electronic mailbox like Texas hailstones.
>
> I know that many in health education have been frustrated by the efforts of certain special interest groups and/or religions to suppress programs or curriculum but nonetheless, this does not give license to us, the highly Educated, Worldly, and Enlightened, to make a public mockery of the fundamental beliefs and historical writings of the groups and cultures who oppose us. A more sensitive, intellectual, and critically thought out approach might be considered. Simply put, we can not wave our fist and demand tolerance and diversity with one hand whilst whumping a selected "wrong thinking" group on the head with the other.
>
> A Friday Inspirational quote to ponder a day or two early:
>
> Whoever kindles the flames of intolerance in America is lighting a fire beneath his own home." Harold Stassen
>
> Andy J :{)
>
> >>> laurie schierer - 6/7/00 9:57 AM >>>
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> David, I hadn't seen this piece. THANKS for sharing.
>
> >From: David Wiley
> >Reply-To: David Wiley
> >To: HEDIR-L@SIU.EDU
> >Subject: [Fwd: Fwd: Dr Laura]
> >Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:27:57 -0500
> >
> >Dear Colleagues,
> >
> >I seldom post these types of things, but I thought this one was pretty
> >interesting. I apologize if everyone in the universe has seen this,
> >except for me!!
> >
> >dCW
> >
> >--
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> >Professor of Health Education
> >HPER Department
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> >San Marcos, TX 78666
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> >
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#1105
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 14:55:25 EDT
From: Jessica Novak
Subject: Native American materials
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Dear Health Education Community:
Help!
I am looking for public health educational materials that are culturally appropriate on a variety of topics and current. I am working with Native Americans and would like to know of any resources that might exist to incorporate into my programs.
I will be happy to post the results of my search. Please email me at JesNovak@aol.com
Thank you!
--
Jessica C. Novak, MPH, CHES
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#1106
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 12:17:40 PDT
From: laurie schierer
Subject: Re: Intolerance on the HEDIR?
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First, and probably most important, Andy I got your messge twice. Did you
send it twice or do I have a problem?
Second, your points are well taken. We all need to examine our attitudes.
We all "do what is right in their own eyes". But that doesn't make us
right. Self-examination should be a regular part of our growth.
But the HEDIR, of all places, is FAMOUS for critically examining every
perspective ever presented. A critical examination of a religious
perspective here is not different than what is always done here. I am a
Christian and value the Book under examination. I'm sure for the hundreds
of us who read here, there are just as many interpretations of what we
believe based on the same reference. David's post just made me look at what
I believe and why I believe it.
Laurie Schierer
Woodford County Health Dept/
Eureka Community Hospital
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Eureka, IL
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#1107
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 12:25:10 -0700
From: Andrew Jenkins
Subject: Re: Intolerance on the HEDIR?
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Laurie,
The electronic gnomes are toying with us--I received YOUR message twice
too! :)
I appreciate your comments. I'm not saying that humor and critical
discussions are out of place on the HEDIR, quite the opposite, I am
saying, however, that a sattire of any particilar religious writing is
apt to be sensitive and is likely inappropriate. These things are
delicate and while we should discuss them critically, we should also be
reverent to one another's beliefs.
Andy J :{)
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First, and probably most important, Andy I got your messge twice. Did
you
send it twice or do I have a problem?
Second, your points are well taken. We all need to examine our
attitudes.
We all "do what is right in their own eyes". But that doesn't make us
right. Self-examination should be a regular part of our growth.
But the HEDIR, of all places, is FAMOUS for critically examining every
perspective ever presented. A critical examination of a religious
perspective here is not different than what is always done here. I am
a
Christian and value the Book under examination. I'm sure for the
hundreds
of us who read here, there are just as many interpretations of what we
believe based on the same reference. David's post just made me look at
what
I believe and why I believe it.
Laurie Schierer
Woodford County Health Dept/
Eureka Community Hospital
109 S. Major
Eureka, IL
(309) 467-2371 ext. 4213
fax (309)467-5104
laurieschierer@hotmail.com
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#1108
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 03:28:21 -0400
From: Donald B Ardell
Subject: Re: Intolerance on the HEDIR?
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Hi Andrew:
I'm glad to finally see a post from you. I have been watching for one since receiving the fine book you edited for Coursewise Publishing entitled Stand! "Contending Ideas and Opinions." (http://www.coursewise.com) I liked the choice of materials and your introduction, particularly the statement "I had always held that the most important job we have as university faculty is to teach our students to think." I note in particular that your seminar class from which the book evolved was called "Controversial Issues in Health Education" and was designed as a forum for free and critical thinking. Thus, you clearly are a proponent
of such thinking, which I find so greatly needed as a skill for those who seek to self manage for lifestyle artistry.
Thus, I am puzzled by your message today on the HEDIR. You are an unlikely person to take the position that Dr. Wiley's sharing of the mock letter to Dr. Laura (whom you acknowledge seems to some "irritating, pious, and condescending) was disturbing, or worse.
Is religious dogma out of bounds because of the sensitivities of various cultures or believers? Is satire out of bounds if someone asserts that the object of satire is "the foundation" or "historical roots" of an established religion? You can't mean this--that once a religion becomes "established," it is off limits to humor in a democratic society? Say it isn't so! Do you wish to elevate blasphemy to the status of a crime or (at least on a college campus) punishable offense against the culture of PC?
Andrew, please rethink this position.
Under your interpretation, could we in good conscience sing (or whistle) "Always Look On The Bright Side of Life" or "Every Sperm Is Sacred?"
> If humor is to be protected (not to mention what is left of freedom of speech), maybe we do indeed need a "tolerance for intolerance." Personally, I did not find the "Dr. Laura" letter intolerant. I thought it was brilliant, on the mark, insightful and an invitation to critical thinking about any number of issues affecting what specific issues regarding what to believe and how to interpret historical material.
But, if someone does not like it, he/she does not have to approve, laugh or use said material for further discussion.
And what, exactly, is wrong with calling attention to what some of us believe is the bizarre nature of a literal interpretation or the alleged inerrency of such texts created for ancient times?
Don't we need to allow this freedom in order to create a climate for critical thinking?
You have not recalled your new book, have you?
Be well.
Don
PS I intend to run the "Dr. Laura" letter in the coming edition of the E-AWR.
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#1109
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 15:49:20 -0400
From: Carla Stack
Subject:
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Please take me off the HEDIR list serve at this time. Thank you
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#1110
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 17:01:53 -0400
From: "Morgan, Winthrop"
Subject: Re: Native American materials
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The National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute (NHLBI) of the National
Institutes of Health
has available " Building Healthy Hearts for American Indians and Alaska
Natives: Background Report".
This background paper provides an overview of cardiovascular diseases and
its associated risk factors among American Indians and Alaska Native
populations in the United States. It also discusses the lessons learned from
community-based projects and recommends strategies for effective programs.
For a free downloadable copy of this publication and other resources, please
visit the NHLBI Healthy People 2010 website (http://hp2010.nhlbihin.net) and
follow the directions to the Minority Populations and then American Indians
and Alaska Natives pages.
This information is in the public domain, and you may reprint it in part or
whole without permission. Please acknowledge NHLBI in your citations.
Thank you for helping us spread the word about good health!
-----Original Message-----
From: Jessica Novak [mailto:Jesnovak@AOL.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 2:55 PM
To: HEDIR-L@SIU.EDU
Subject: Native American materials
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Dear Health Education Community:
Help!
I am looking for public health educational materials that
are culturally appropriate on a variety of topics and current. I am working
with Native Americans and would like to know of any resources that might
exist to incorporate into my programs.
I will be happy to post the results of my search. Please
email me at JesNovak@aol.com
Thank you!
--
Jessica C. Novak, MPH, CHES
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#1111
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 18:23:42 -0400
From: Stanley Snegroff
Subject: Dr. Laura and Intolerance
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Hi all,
Donald Ardell's response was right on the money.
It is so easy for hypocrites like Dr. Laura to use the scriptures when it suits their purpose. Perhaps the only way to help hypocrites is to have them search within, so they can discover the lack of consistent values and seek help. The letter was a great example of the application of value clarification, to help a person find her true self and therefore find peace.
Stanley Snegroff, Ed.D., CHES
Health Studies Program Director
Adelphi University
Woodruff Hall
Garden City, NY 11530
Phone: 516-877-4283
E-mail: Snegroff@adelphi.edu
Fax: 516-877-4258
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#1112
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 18:20:57 -0400
From: "Linda S. Pescatello"
Subject: graduate level health promotion course
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I am teaching a graduate level course entitled, "Critical Issues in
Health Promotion"' within a school of allied health for the first time.
The course is an overview and has flexibility in content and format. I
am inquiring to see if others have taught such a course and what ideas
and materials they would be willing to share. I look forward to
receiving any ideas and thoughts about a potential text, and course
format and content.
Linda Pescatello
Assistant Professor
University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT
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#1113
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 10:40:05 -0400
From: "Judith D. Murphy"
Subject: Re: Dr. Laura and Intolerance
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I too found the reply refreshing. I do not find the mock letter offensive
as a practicing Christian i thought it pointed out the difference between
taking writings written in a very different time and cultural literally
versus understanding the purpose at the time of the writing.
And i appreciated having a good laugh!
Judith Dwyer Murphy, EdD, CHES Improving Vermont's
Executive Director public health by
Champlain Valley Area Health Education Center establishing
3 Home Health Circle, Ste 3 educational partnerships
St. Albans, VT 05478 with Vermont communities,
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http://www.together.net/~cvahec health training programs.
On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Stanley Snegroff wrote:
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> Hi all,
> Donald Ardell's response was right on the money.
> It is so easy for hypocrites like Dr. Laura to use the scriptures when it suits their purpose. Perhaps the only way to help hypocrites is to have them search within, so they can discover the lack of consistent values and seek help. The letter was a great example of the application of value clarification, to help a person find her true self and therefore find peace.
>
>
>
> Stanley Snegroff, Ed.D., CHES
> Health Studies Program Director
> Adelphi University
> Woodruff Hall
> Garden City, NY 11530
>
> Phone: 516-877-4283
> E-mail: Snegroff@adelphi.edu
> Fax: 516-877-4258
>
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#1114
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:08:31 -0400
From: "Karen Denard Goldman & Robert L. Goldman"
Subject: June 23 Social Marketing Conference - Last Pre-REg Call
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Colleagues:
This is the last call to pre-register for the Friday, June 23 social marketing
conference at Lehman College. Please feel free to post this on any electronic
mailing lists to which you have access.
The website address for pre-registration information OR instructions on how to
register to receive a broadcast of the conference is:
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The program has been submitted for 6-7 hours of nursing and health education
specialist continuing education credit. Dietitians and social workers can also
apply for continuing education (Category II type) credit.
Questions? Contact me, Karen Denard Goldman by replying to this message, or
call 718-960-8673.
Come spend the day on the pastoral, historic (first site of the UN, where
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kdg
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#1115
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 10:03:37 -0500
From: Joe Baker
Subject: Intolerance, Dr. Laura, et al.
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Let's face it; we're all intolerant, just about different things. I think
the great task before humanity is to discover how we are alike instead of
how we are different.
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#1116
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:04:40 -0400
From: Emily Sharp
Subject: remove from list
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I will be out until Sept. 12, please remove me from the list ,thanks,
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#1117
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 10:05:12 -0600
From: Sean Yeager
Subject: remove from list
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I will be out until August 14th. Please remove me from the list. Thank =
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#1118
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 09:17:19 -0700
From: Andrew Jenkins
Subject: Re: Intolerance on the HEDIR?
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Fellow HEDIRs,
I'm glad to see the listserv has not gone completely dead for the
summer and a few of y'all are still hard at work at your computers.
My comments regarding the Dr. Laura spoof have prompted a fair amount
of discussion and opinion. It's interesting to me to see where the
thread leads and what was interpreted from each person's comments.
Several of the mail's directed to me or at me are thought provoking but
I'll only respond briefly to two central points brought up by Don and
Laurie.
First of all, Don thanks for plugging my book ;) But "no-thanks" for
accusing me of waffling on my stand on critical thinking, my opposition
to intellectual laziness and my championing freedom of thought. Here's
my position in a few paragraphs:
Laurie wrote:
>But the HEDIR, of all places, is FAMOUS for critically examining every
>perspective ever presented. A critical examination of a religious
>perspective here is not different than what is always done here.
I could not agree more! The HEDIR is an appropriate place for critical
examination and discussion of religious dogmas as they relate to
wellness (i.e. the spiritual dimension). I do not, however, think that
the HEDIR is a good venue for making fun of religious beliefs or
historical writings. Humor is appropriate on the HEDIR but not mean
spirited humor. The spiritual domain, as we all know, is often a
sensitive are for many people and a good deal of reverence and mutual
respect is called for when intervening in this area. That's all I'm
saying. I usually witness a great deal of respect on the HEDIR to
cultures and acceptance of differing belief systems and felt this post
was incongruent with the general tone of the list.
If the goal was to "put Dr. Laura in her place" for being a hypocrite,
why not point out her own divorce, her posing for nude pictures, her
former living in sin with a much older man? To mock the Old Testament
is to mock the basis for the spiritual health of millions of people who
are NOT pious radio talk show hosts but ARE the very citizens we are
trying to help with our health promotional messages.
If we are going to have an intellectual discussion of religious
dogmas, then let's do that. If we are going to talk about the damaging
effects of certain talk show hosts, let's do that but let's not
ridicule the underpinnings of the anyone's spiritual beliefs.
Andy J :{)
>>> Donald B Ardell - 6/7/00 12:28 AM >>>
Hi Andrew:
I'm glad to finally see a post from you. I have been watching for one
since receiving the fine book you edited for Coursewise Publishing
entitled Stand! "Contending Ideas and Opinions."
(http://www.coursewise.com) I liked the choice of materials and your
introduction, particularly the statement "I had always held that the
most important job we have as university faculty is to teach our
students to think." I note in particular that your seminar class from
which the book evolved was called "Controversial Issues in Health
Education" and was designed as a forum for free and critical thinking.
Thus, you clearly are a proponent
of such thinking, which I find so greatly needed as a skill for those
who seek to self manage for lifestyle artistry.
Thus, I am puzzled by your message today on the HEDIR. You are an
unlikely person to take the position that Dr. Wiley's sharing of the
mock letter to Dr. Laura (whom you acknowledge seems to some
"irritating, pious, and condescending) was disturbing, or worse.
Is religious dogma out of bounds because of the sensitivities of
various cultures or believers? Is satire out of bounds if someone
asserts that the object of satire is "the foundation" or "historical
roots" of an established religion? You can't mean this--that once a
religion becomes "established," it is off limits to humor in a
democratic society? Say it isn't so! Do you wish to elevate blasphemy
to the status of a crime or (at least on a college campus) punishable
offense against the culture of PC?
Andrew, please rethink this position.
Under your interpretation, could we in good conscience sing (or
whistle) "Always Look On The Bright Side of Life" or "Every Sperm Is
Sacred?"
> If humor is to be protected (not to mention what is left of freedom
of speech), maybe we do indeed need a "tolerance for intolerance."
Personally, I did not find the "Dr. Laura" letter intolerant. I thought
it was brilliant, on the mark, insightful and an invitation to critical
thinking about any number of issues affecting what specific issues
regarding what to believe and how to interpret historical material.
But, if someone does not like it, he/she does not have to approve,
laugh or use said material for further discussion.
And what, exactly, is wrong with calling attention to what some of us
believe is the bizarre nature of a literal interpretation or the alleged
inerrency of such texts created for ancient times?
Don't we need to allow this freedom in order to create a climate for
critical thinking?
You have not recalled your new book, have you?
Be well.
Don
PS I intend to run the "Dr. Laura" letter in the coming edition of the
E-AWR.
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#1119
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 09:40:52 -0700
From: Holly Lenz
Subject: Re: Native American materials
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Jessica :
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tobacco.
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#1120
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:21:13 -0400
From: Donald B Ardell
Subject: Dr. Laura
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Andrew Jenkins wrote:
"...
If the goal was to "put Dr. Laura in her place" for being a hypocrite, why
not point out her own divorce, her posing for nude pictures, her former
living in sin with a much older man? ..."
---------------------
#1121
Andrew:
Dr. Laura divorced (i.e., got out of a relationship that was seen as
injurious to her well being)? Dr. Laura posed nude? Dr. Laura living in
sin? Dr. Laura took up with a much older man?
I wish to retract any implied criticism I made have made of the good lady.
She's starting to sound a lot better than I ever realized. When does her
show air on radio? I have to rethink my whole attitude now. Thanks.
Don
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#1122
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:02:48 -0600
From: "Walter A. Hanks"
Subject: Re: Intolerance on the HEDIR?
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Thank you Andy for being willing to take this issue on. I agree with
you completely. The HEDIR has long been a place where conservative
Christian values are mocked and scorned and anyone daring to suggest
that this is inappropriate is flamed unmercifully.
I have experienced this intolerance myself, and I have received
numerous emails from others who are afraid to post their views to the
list because of the treatment they know they will receive. That is a
sad commentary on this group, and on our profession. I hope your
willingness to challenge the norm here will help change that part of
the HEDIR ethos.
I do want to correct one thing you said though. In using the old
testament writings to mock Dr. Laura (someone I don't particularly
care for either), the writer not only mocked the spiritual roots of
Christianity, as you correctly indicated, but of Islam and Judaism as
well. All three religious traditions are rooted in the Abrahamic
covenant found in the Old Testatment.
As one respondent said, we should not go about pointing out
differences, but finding common ground from which to grow healthy
relationships. While I do not like Dr. Laura's style, or her
hypocrisy, in preaching abstinence until marriage, monogomy, and
fidelity, she is supporting critical public health goals. Instead of
mocking and insulting her, we ought to be helping to mold her message
into one more in tune with what the nation needs, and will accept.
Walt Hanks
At 9:17 AM -0700 6/8/00, Andrew Jenkins wrote:
>Fellow HEDIRs,
>
>I'm glad to see the listserv has not gone completely dead for the
>summer and a few of y'all are still hard at work at your computers.
>
>My comments regarding the Dr. Laura spoof have prompted a fair amount
>of discussion and opinion. It's interesting to me to see where the
>thread leads and what was interpreted from each person's comments.
>
>Several of the mail's directed to me or at me are thought provoking but
>I'll only respond briefly to two central points brought up by Don and
>Laurie.
>
>First of all, Don thanks for plugging my book ;) But "no-thanks" for
>accusing me of waffling on my stand on critical thinking, my opposition
>to intellectual laziness and my championing freedom of thought. Here's
>my position in a few paragraphs:
>
>
>Laurie wrote:
>>But the HEDIR, of all places, is FAMOUS for critically examining every
>
>>perspective ever presented. A critical examination of a religious
>>perspective here is not different than what is always done here.
>
>I could not agree more! The HEDIR is an appropriate place for critical
>examination and discussion of religious dogmas as they relate to
>wellness (i.e. the spiritual dimension). I do not, however, think that
>the HEDIR is a good venue for making fun of religious beliefs or
>historical writings. Humor is appropriate on the HEDIR but not mean
>spirited humor. The spiritual domain, as we all know, is often a
>sensitive are for many people and a good deal of reverence and mutual
>respect is called for when intervening in this area. That's all I'm
>saying. I usually witness a great deal of respect on the HEDIR to
>cultures and acceptance of differing belief systems and felt this post
>was incongruent with the general tone of the list.
>
>If the goal was to "put Dr. Laura in her place" for being a hypocrite,
>why not point out her own divorce, her posing for nude pictures, her
>former living in sin with a much older man? To mock the Old Testament
>is to mock the basis for the spiritual health of millions of people who
>are NOT pious radio talk show hosts but ARE the very citizens we are
>trying to help with our health promotional messages.
>
>If we are going to have an intellectual discussion of religious
>dogmas, then let's do that. If we are going to talk about the damaging
>effects of certain talk show hosts, let's do that but let's not
>ridicule the underpinnings of the anyone's spiritual beliefs.
>
>Andy J :{)
>
--
Walter A. Hanks, BS, C.H.E.S.
Chair, Technology Committee,
Webmaster, and Graduate Instructor
Department of Health Sciences
Brigham Young University
213 Richard's Building
Provo, UT 84602
(801)378-6367
(801)378-4388 fax
------------------------------
#1123
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 10:13:57 -0800
From: Robin GrayBallard
Subject: sun block
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Hi all,
does anyone know how long sun block has been
available? My friends and I all remember sun tan
lotion from the early 60's but that was to GET a
tan. When did "block" appear?
Robin GrayBallard
------------------------------
#1124
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 10:24:02 PDT
From: Connie Milland
Subject: Removal from list
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Dear HEDIR mail person:
Please remove me from your list!
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#1125
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:22:47 -0400
From: "Joseph A. Dake"
Subject: Re: Intolerance on the HEDIR?
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I just decided that I would throw in my two cents. I believe that the piece
submitted by David Wiley should not be viewed as a mockery of those
religions that use the Old Testament as a basis for their beliefs. I found
it a useful piece of information that I will use when discussing the issue
of homosexuality with individuals who use passages from the Bible as a basis
for argument about homosexuality being a sin. When they establish the
parameters the boundaries of discussion (will not even listen to discussion
about free choice, individuality, biology, etc. concerning this issue) then
I feel it totally appropriate to discuss the issues within the boundaries of
the Old Testament. Why do they feel so strongly about one issue and not
about another? This does not say that their faith is wrong and does not mock
their belief system. It is a tool for making them examine their basis for
argument within their argument framework.
Joe Dake
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter A. Hanks"
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Intolerance on the HEDIR?
> ** Special IEJHE Issue: http://www.iejhe.siu.edu
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>
> Thank you Andy for being willing to take this issue on. I agree with
> you completely. The HEDIR has long been a place where conservative
> Christian values are mocked and scorned and anyone daring to suggest
> that this is inappropriate is flamed unmercifully.
>
> I have experienced this intolerance myself, and I have received
> numerous emails from others who are afraid to post their views to the
> list because of the treatment they know they will receive. That is a
> sad commentary on this group, and on our profession. I hope your
> willingness to challenge the norm here will help change that part of
> the HEDIR ethos.
>
> I do want to correct one thing you said though. In using the old
> testament writings to mock Dr. Laura (someone I don't particularly
> care for either), the writer not only mocked the spiritual roots of
> Christianity, as you correctly indicated, but of Islam and Judaism as
> well. All three religious traditions are rooted in the Abrahamic
> covenant found in the Old Testatment.
>
> As one respondent said, we should not go about pointing out
> differences, but finding common ground from which to grow healthy
> relationships. While I do not like Dr. Laura's style, or her
> hypocrisy, in preaching abstinence until marriage, monogomy, and
> fidelity, she is supporting critical public health goals. Instead of
> mocking and insulting her, we ought to be helping to mold her message
> into one more in tune with what the nation needs, and will accept.
>
> Walt Hanks
>
>
> At 9:17 AM -0700 6/8/00, Andrew Jenkins wrote:
> >Fellow HEDIRs,
> >
> >I'm glad to see the listserv has not gone completely dead for the
> >summer and a few of y'all are still hard at work at your computers.
> >
> >My comments regarding the Dr. Laura spoof have prompted a fair amount
> >of discussion and opinion. It's interesting to me to see where the
> >thread leads and what was interpreted from each person's comments.
> >
> >Several of the mail's directed to me or at me are thought provoking but
> >I'll only respond briefly to two central points brought up by Don and
> >Laurie.
> >
> >First of all, Don thanks for plugging my book ;) But "no-thanks" for
> >accusing me of waffling on my stand on critical thinking, my opposition
> >to intellectual laziness and my championing freedom of thought. Here's
> >my position in a few paragraphs:
> >
> >
> >Laurie wrote:
> >>But the HEDIR, of all places, is FAMOUS for critically examining every
> >
> >>perspective ever presented. A critical examination of a religious
> >>perspective here is not different than what is always done here.
> >
> >I could not agree more! The HEDIR is an appropriate place for critical
> >examination and discussion of religious dogmas as they relate to
> >wellness (i.e. the spiritual dimension). I do not, however, think that
> >the HEDIR is a good venue for making fun of religious beliefs or
> >historical writings. Humor is appropriate on the HEDIR but not mean
> >spirited humor. The spiritual domain, as we all know, is often a
> >sensitive are for many people and a good deal of reverence and mutual
> >respect is called for when intervening in this area. That's all I'm
> >saying. I usually witness a great deal of respect on the HEDIR to
> >cultures and acceptance of differing belief systems and felt this post
> >was incongruent with the general tone of the list.
> >
> >If the goal was to "put Dr. Laura in her place" for being a hypocrite,
> >why not point out her own divorce, her posing for nude pictures, her
> >former living in sin with a much older man? To mock the Old Testament
> >is to mock the basis for the spiritual health of millions of people who
> >are NOT pious radio talk show hosts but ARE the very citizens we are
> >trying to help with our health promotional messages.
> >
> >If we are going to have an intellectual discussion of religious
> >dogmas, then let's do that. If we are going to talk about the damaging
> >effects of certain talk show hosts, let's do that but let's not
> >ridicule the underpinnings of the anyone's spiritual beliefs.
> >
> >Andy J :{)
> >
> --
> Walter A. Hanks, BS, C.H.E.S.
> Chair, Technology Committee,
> Webmaster, and Graduate Instructor
> Department of Health Sciences
> Brigham Young University
> 213 Richard's Building
> Provo, UT 84602
> (801)378-6367
> (801)378-4388 fax
>
> ** Thanks to the Individuals Sponsoring the HEDIR:
> ** http://www.kittle.siu.edu/sponsor.html
>
------------------------------
#1126
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 14:24:04 -0400
From: "Kathryn P. Putnam"
Subject: Re: Intolerance on the HEDIR?
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Hallelujah and amen, and awomen! Joe Dake got the point of the whole
piece: If you are going to use Leviticus to condemn homosexuality, you
can not pick and choose which passages are relevant. I used the same
argument as Wiley's "Dr. Laura" letter with some students: If you are
going to use the Old Testament to condemn homosexuality, then you had
better be living as an true Orthodox Jew, because you can not pick and
choose which laws to obey. Some of my students countered, "Well, back
then, they did not understand about hygeine, food bacteria, etc." I
said, "Yes, and they did not understand about HOMOSEXUALITY either, that
IT IS NOT A CHOICE, but an orientation that you are born with, obviously.
Therefore, if you don't believe it's wrong to eat shellfish and pork and
have sex outside of marriage, why do you believe that they knew what they
were talking about when it came to homosexuality?"
Thanks, I feel better.
Kathy Putnam, MPH
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:22:47 -0400 "Joseph A. Dake"
writes:
> ** Special IEJHE Issue: http://www.iejhe.siu.edu
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> ** More info: http://www.hpcareer.net/hedir.htm
>
> I just decided that I would throw in my two cents. I believe that
> the piece
> submitted by David Wiley should not be viewed as a mockery of those
> religions that use the Old Testament as a basis for their beliefs. I
> found
> it a useful piece of information that I will use when discussing the
> issue
> of homosexuality with individuals who use passages from the Bible as
> a basis
> for argument about homosexuality being a sin. When they establish
> the
> parameters the boundaries of discussion (will not even listen to
> discussion
> about free choice, individuality, biology, etc. concerning this
> issue) then
> I feel it totally appropriate to discuss the issues within the
> boundaries of
> the Old Testament. Why do they feel so strongly about one issue and
> not
> about another? This does not say that their faith is wrong and does
> not mock
> their belief system. It is a tool for making them examine their
> basis for
> argument within their argument framework.
>
> Joe Dake
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Walter A. Hanks"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Intolerance on the HEDIR?
>
>
> > ** Special IEJHE Issue: http://www.iejhe.siu.edu
> > ** Thanks for supporting the HEDIR by Advertising Jobs!
> > ** More info: http://www.hpcareer.net/hedir.htm
> >
> > Thank you Andy for being willing to take this issue on. I agree
> with
> > you completely. The HEDIR has long been a place where
> conservative
> > Christian values are mocked and scorned and anyone daring to
> suggest
> > that this is inappropriate is flamed unmercifully.
> >
> > I have experienced this intolerance myself, and I have received
> > numerous emails from others who are afraid to post their views to
> the
> > list because of the treatment they know they will receive. That
> is a
> > sad commentary on this group, and on our profession. I hope your
> > willingness to challenge the norm here will help change that part
> of
> > the HEDIR ethos.
> >
> > I do want to correct one thing you said though. In using the old
> > testament writings to mock Dr. Laura (someone I don't particularly
> > care for either), the writer not only mocked the spiritual roots
> of
> > Christianity, as you correctly indicated, but of Islam and Judaism
> as
> > well. All three religious traditions are rooted in the Abrahamic
> > covenant found in the Old Testatment.
> >
> > As one respondent said, we should not go about pointing out
> > differences, but finding common ground from which to grow healthy
> > relationships. While I do not like Dr. Laura's style, or her
> > hypocrisy, in preaching abstinence until marriage, monogomy, and
> > fidelity, she is supporting critical public health goals. Instead
> of
> > mocking and insulting her, we ought to be helping to mold her
> message
> > into one more in tune with what the nation needs, and will accept.
> >
> > Walt Hanks
> >
> >
> > At 9:17 AM -0700 6/8/00, Andrew Jenkins wrote:
> > >Fellow HEDIRs,
> > >
> > >I'm glad to see the listserv has not gone completely dead for the
> > >summer and a few of y'all are still hard at work at your
> computers.
> > >
> > >My comments regarding the Dr. Laura spoof have prompted a fair
> amount
> > >of discussion and opinion. It's interesting to me to see where
> the
> > >thread leads and what was interpreted from each person's
> comments.
> > >
> > >Several of the mail's directed to me or at me are thought
> provoking but
> > >I'll only respond briefly to two central points brought up by Don
> and
> > >Laurie.
> > >
> > >First of all, Don thanks for plugging my book ;) But "no-thanks"
> for
> > >accusing me of waffling on my stand on critical thinking, my
> opposition
> > >to intellectual laziness and my championing freedom of thought.
> Here's
> > >my position in a few paragraphs:
> > >
> > >
> > >Laurie wrote:
> > >>But the HEDIR, of all places, is FAMOUS for critically examining
> every
> > >
> > >>perspective ever presented. A critical examination of a
> religious
> > >>perspective here is not different than what is always done here.
> > >
> > >I could not agree more! The HEDIR is an appropriate place for
> critical
> > >examination and discussion of religious dogmas as they relate to
> > >wellness (i.e. the spiritual dimension). I do not, however,
> think that
> > >the HEDIR is a good venue for making fun of religious beliefs or
> > >historical writings. Humor is appropriate on the HEDIR but not
> mean
> > >spirited humor. The spiritual domain, as we all know, is often a
> > >sensitive are for many people and a good deal of reverence and
> mutual
> > >respect is called for when intervening in this area. That's all
> I'm
> > >saying. I usually witness a great deal of respect on the HEDIR
> to
> > >cultures and acceptance of differing belief systems and felt
> this post
> > >was incongruent with the general tone of the list.
> > >
> > >If the goal was to "put Dr. Laura in her place" for being a
> hypocrite,
> > >why not point out her own divorce, her posing for nude pictures,
> her
> > >former living in sin with a much older man? To mock the Old
> Testament
> > >is to mock the basis for the spiritual health of millions of
> people who
> > >are NOT pious radio talk show hosts but ARE the very citizens we
> are
> > >trying to help with our health promotional messages.
> > >
> > >If we are going to have an intellectual discussion of religious
> > >dogmas, then let's do that. If we are going to talk about the
> damaging
> > >effects of certain talk show hosts, let's do that but let's not
> > >ridicule the underpinnings of the anyone's spiritual beliefs.
> > >
> > >Andy J :{)
> > >
> > --
> > Walter A. Hanks, BS, C.H.E.S.
> > Chair, Technology Committee,
> > Webmaster, and Graduate Instructor
> > Department of Health Sciences
> > Brigham Young University
> > 213 Richard's Building
> > Provo, UT 84602
> > (801)378-6367
> > (801)378-4388 fax
> >
> > ** Thanks to the Individuals Sponsoring the HEDIR:
> > ** http://www.kittle.siu.edu/sponsor.html
> >
>
> ** Thanks to the Individuals Sponsoring the HEDIR:
> ** http://www.kittle.siu.edu/sponsor.html
Kathy Putnam, Director, Radford Office on Youth
30 First Street
Radford, Va 24141
Ph: (540) 639-6698
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#1127
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:38:18 -0700
From: Andrew Jenkins
Subject: Re: Intolerance on the HEDIR?
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Hedirs,
Kathryn wrote:
>If you aregoing to use the Old Testament to condemn homosexuality,
then you >hadbetter be living as an true Orthodox Jew, because you can
not pick and
>choose which laws to obey.
I think we are now off and running with some good issues. I've got to
make one last post and then I'm off for vacation. I agree about
selecting and using one but not another portion of the same doctrine but
don't we all do that? Look at the inconsistencies in people's health
behaviors. Look at how we selectively chose to obey speed limits or
other traffic laws.
My other comment has to do with the question of homosexuality and
choice.
Kathryn wrote:
>"Yes, and they did not understand about HOMOSEXUALITY either, that
>IT IS NOT A CHOICE, but an orientation that you are born with,
obviously.
>Therefore, if you don't believe it's wrong to eat shellfish and pork
and
>have sex outside of marriage, why do you believe that they knew what
they
>were talking about when it came to homosexuality?"
I do not persnoally agree with the notion that homosexuality is purely
biological. While there is some compelling evidence (mostly the
research of Simon LeVay) of a biological cause I still believe that a
significant amount of sexual preference has to do with freedom of
choice, circumstances, and learned associations.
Oughtn't we allow that at least SOME homosexuals or bisexuals chose
their behaviors simply because they like it? Is all sexual behavior
pre-determined at birth and does it not change with phases of one's
life, circumstance and positive or negative reinforcement? Could a
homosexual or bisexual preference NOT be learned or reinforced in the
same way other sexual preferences are ie. some like the bedroom, others
like the kitchen, lights on/lights off ;)?
I know a fellow who used to prefer skinny girls until he blind-dated a
chubby one and now he is attracted to chubby women. Should we search is
brain for a "chubby girl preference gene"? Did he change his biology or
his preferences?
I like to believe in the freedom of the human spirit to make choices
and to learn new preferences.
Outahere!
Andy J :{)
>>> "Kathryn P. Putnam" - 6/8/00 11:24 AM >>>
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Hallelujah and amen, and awomen! Joe Dake got the point of the whole
piece: If you are going to use Leviticus to condemn homosexuality,
you
can not pick and choose which passages are relevant. I used the same
argument as Wiley's "Dr. Laura" letter with some students: If you are
going to use the Old Testament to condemn homosexuality, then you had
better be living as an true Orthodox Jew, because you can not pick and
choose which laws to obey. Some of my students countered, "Well, back
then, they did not understand about hygeine, food bacteria, etc." I
said, "Yes, and they did not understand about HOMOSEXUALITY either,
that
IT IS NOT A CHOICE, but an orientation that you are born with,
obviously.
Therefore, if you don't believe it's wrong to eat shellfish and pork
and
have sex outside of marriage, why do you believe that they knew what
they
were talking about when it came to homosexuality?"
Thanks, I feel better.
Kathy Putnam, MPH
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:22:47 -0400 "Joseph A. Dake"
writes:
> ** Special IEJHE Issue: http://www.iejhe.siu.edu
> ** Thanks for supporting the HEDIR by Advertising Jobs!
> ** More info: http://www.hpcareer.net/hedir.htm
>
> I just decided that I would throw in my two cents. I believe that
> the piece
> submitted by David Wiley should not be viewed as a mockery of those
> religions that use the Old Testament as a basis for their beliefs. I
> found
> it a useful piece of information that I will use when discussing the
> issue
> of homosexuality with individuals who use passages from the Bible as
> a basis
> for argument about homosexuality being a sin. When they establish
> the
> parameters the boundaries of discussion (will not even listen to
> discussion
> about free choice, individuality, biology, etc. concerning this
> issue) then
> I feel it totally appropriate to discuss the issues within the
> boundaries of
> the Old Testament. Why do they feel so strongly about one issue and
> not
> about another? This does not say that their faith is wrong and does
> not mock
> their belief system. It is a tool for making them examine their
> basis for
> argument within their argument framework.
>
> Joe Dake
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Walter A. Hanks"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Intolerance on the HEDIR?
>
>
> > ** Special IEJHE Issue: http://www.iejhe.siu.edu
> > ** Thanks for supporting the HEDIR by Advertising Jobs!
> > ** More info: http://www.hpcareer.net/hedir.htm
> >
> > Thank you Andy for being willing to take this issue on. I agree
> with
> > you completely. The HEDIR has long been a place where
> conservative
> > Christian values are mocked and scorned and anyone daring to
> suggest
> > that this is inappropriate is flamed unmercifully.
> >
> > I have experienced this intolerance myself, and I have received
> > numerous emails from others who are afraid to post their views to
> the
> > list because of the treatment they know they will receive. That
> is a
> > sad commentary on this group, and on our profession. I hope your
> > willingness to challenge the norm here will help change that part
> of
> > the HEDIR ethos.
> >
> > I do want to correct one thing you said though. In using the old
> > testament writings to mock Dr. Laura (someone I don't particularly
> > care for either), the writer not only mocked the spiritual roots
> of
> > Christianity, as you correctly indicated, but of Islam and Judaism
> as
> > well. All three religious traditions are rooted in the Abrahamic
> > covenant found in the Old Testatment.
> >
> > As one respondent said, we should not go about pointing out
> > differences, but finding common ground from which to grow healthy
> > relationships. While I do not like Dr. Laura's style, or her
> > hypocrisy, in preaching abstinence until marriage, monogomy, and
> > fidelity, she is supporting critical public health goals. Instead
> of
> > mocking and insulting her, we ought to be helping to mold her
> message
> > into one more in tune with what the nation needs, and will accept.
> >
> > Walt Hanks
> >
> >
> > At 9:17 AM -0700 6/8/00, Andrew Jenkins wrote:
> > >Fellow HEDIRs,
> > >
> > >I'm glad to see the listserv has not gone completely dead for the
> > >summer and a few of y'all are still hard at work at your
> computers.
> > >
> > >My comments regarding the Dr. Laura spoof have prompted a fair
> amount
> > >of discussion and opinion. It's interesting to me to see where
> the
> > >thread leads and what was interpreted from each person's
> comments.
> > >
> > >Several of the mail's directed to me or at me are thought
> provoking but
> > >I'll only respond briefly to two central points brought up by Don
> and
> > >Laurie.
> > >
> > >First of all, Don thanks for plugging my book ;) But "no-thanks"
> for
> > >accusing me of waffling on my stand on critical thinking, my
> opposition
> > >to intellectual laziness and my championing freedom of thought.
> Here's
> > >my position in a few paragraphs:
> > >
> > >
> > >Laurie wrote:
> > >>But the HEDIR, of all places, is FAMOUS for critically examining
> every
> > >
> > >>perspective ever presented. A critical examination of a
> religious
> > >>perspective here is not different than what is always done here.
> > >
> > >I could not agree more! The HEDIR is an appropriate place for
> critical
> > >examination and discussion of religious dogmas as they relate to
> > >wellness (i.e. the spiritual dimension). I do not, however,
> think that
> > >the HEDIR is a good venue for making fun of religious beliefs or
> > >historical writings. Humor is appropriate on the HEDIR but not
> mean
> > >spirited humor. The spiritual domain, as we all know, is often a
> > >sensitive are for many people and a good deal of reverence and
> mutual
> > >respect is called for when intervening in this area. That's all
> I'm
> > >saying. I usually witness a great deal of respect on the HEDIR
> to
> > >cultures and acceptance of differing belief systems and felt
> this post
> > >was incongruent with the general tone of the list.
> > >
> > >If the goal was to "put Dr. Laura in her place" for being a
> hypocrite,
> > >why not point out her own divorce, her posing for nude pictures,
> her
> > >former living in sin with a much older man? To mock the Old
> Testament
> > >is to mock the basis for the spiritual health of millions of
> people who
> > >are NOT pious radio talk show hosts but ARE the very citizens we
> are
> > >trying to help with our health promotional messages.
> > >
> > >If we are going to have an intellectual discussion of religious
> > >dogmas, then let's do that. If we are going to talk about the
> damaging
> > >effects of certain talk show hosts, let's do that but let's not
> > >ridicule the underpinnings of the anyone's spiritual beliefs.
> > >
> > >Andy J :{)
> > >
> > --
> > Walter A. Hanks, BS, C.H.E.S.
> > Chair, Technology Committee,
> > Webmaster, and Graduate Instructor
> > Department of Health Sciences
> > Brigham Young University
> > 213 Richard's Building
> > Provo, UT 84602
> > (801)378-6367
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#1128
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:56:40 PDT
From: Lisa Tobe
Subject: HIV programming and liability insurance
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A friend of mine runs a buddy program for HIV positive folks. Recently, the
health department that he's working for has told him that he's required to
carry liability insurance for his program. His insurance agent told him
that might be an issue (cost wise) because of the health risks associated
with HIV.
Does anyone has any information about liability insurance for programs
working with HIV clients?
Lisa Tobe
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#1129
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 16:03:27 -0400
From: "Kathryn P. Putnam"
Subject: Re: Intolerance on the HEDIR?
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Andrew,
If you consider yourself a Christian, and that is why you condemn
homosexuality, on the basis of the OLD TESTAMENT, then how do you justify
believing one part and not another? If you say , "Well, as a Christian,
it's ok to eat pork because they didn't know about parasites back then,
but homosexuality is an abomination", I counter by saying, "As a
Christian, they did not know or understand about homosexuality back then,
either!" We are all hypocrtites when it comes to behavior, but you
cannot base public arguments against homosexuality on Leviticus unless
you are prepared to live by all the laws laid down in Leviticus, at least
in public, because you have destroyed your credibility otherwise.
On the matter of choice:
As my friend Brian McNaught, likes to point out in his book and videotape
"On Being Gay", he has to laugh when people ask him, "Well, Brian, when
did you choose to be GAY?" He counters with, "Oh, I thought it might be
fun to be excommunicated from my church, fired from my job, not be able
to find a place to live, be scorned by friends and family, etc. Sounded
like a lot of fun, thought I'd try it!"
If you are a man who is attracted to women, it is impossible to make
yourself be attracted to men unless that attraction was already a part of
your nature. I think most of us are a product of Nature AND Nurture, but
when it comes to sexual orientation, I believe we are hard-wired by
nature. In fact, I think a lot of us, probably the majority, are "wired"
as bi-sexual, but our taboos and societies keep us heterosexual.
I have so many men frinds that are turned on by the fantasy of watching
two women make love, but are horrified and disgusted at the thought of
two men making love. So, what's the difference?
I hate to belabor a point, but the letter to Dr. Laura was not condemning
Christainity, it was condemning the use of God's word to persecute
people, and if anyone tries to use the BIBLE as a way to persecute gay
people, then you had better live completely by it or you are not
credible.
Kathryn
On Thu, 08 Jun 2000 12:38:18 -0700 Andrew Jenkins
writes:
> Hedirs,
>
> Kathryn wrote:
> >If you aregoing to use the Old Testament to condemn homosexuality,
> then you >hadbetter be living as an true Orthodox Jew, because you
> can
> not pick and
> >choose which laws to obey.
>
> I think we are now off and running with some good issues. I've got
> to
> make one last post and then I'm off for vacation. I agree about
> selecting and using one but not another portion of the same doctrine
> but
> don't we all do that? Look at the inconsistencies in people's
> health
> behaviors. Look at how we selectively chose to obey speed limits or
> other traffic laws.
>
> My other comment has to do with the question of homosexuality and
> choice.
>
> Kathryn wrote:
> >"Yes, and they did not understand about HOMOSEXUALITY either, that
> >IT IS NOT A CHOICE, but an orientation that you are born with,
> obviously.
> >Therefore, if you don't believe it's wrong to eat shellfish and
> pork
> and
> >have sex outside of marriage, why do you believe that they knew
> what
> they
> >were talking about when it came to homosexuality?"
>
> I do not persnoally agree with the notion that homosexuality is
> purely
> biological. While there is some compelling evidence (mostly the
> research of Simon LeVay) of a biological cause I still believe that
> a
> significant amount of sexual preference has to do with freedom of
> choice, circumstances, and learned associations.
>
> Oughtn't we allow that at least SOME homosexuals or bisexuals chose
> their behaviors simply because they like it? Is all sexual behavior
> pre-determined at birth and does it not change with phases of one's
> life, circumstance and positive or negative reinforcement? Could a
> homosexual or bisexual preference NOT be learned or reinforced in
> the
> same way other sexual preferences are ie. some like the bedroom,
> others
> like the kitchen, lights on/lights off ;)?
>
> I know a fellow who used to prefer skinny girls until he
> blind-dated a
> chubby one and now he is attracted to chubby women. Should we
> search is
> brain for a "chubby girl preference gene"? Did he change his
> biology or
> his preferences?
>
> I like to believe in the freedom of the human spirit to make choices
> and to learn new preferences.
>
> Outahere!
>
> Andy J :{)
>
> >>> "Kathryn P. Putnam" - 6/8/00 11:24 AM >>>
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>
> Hallelujah and amen, and awomen! Joe Dake got the point of the
> whole
> piece: If you are going to use Leviticus to condemn homosexuality,
> you
> can not pick and choose which passages are relevant. I used the
> same
> argument as Wiley's "Dr. Laura" letter with some students: If you
> are
> going to use the Old Testament to condemn homosexuality, then you
> had
> better be living as an true Orthodox Jew, because you can not pick
> and
> choose which laws to obey. Some of my students countered, "Well,
> back
> then, they did not understand about hygeine, food bacteria, etc." I
> said, "Yes, and they did not understand about HOMOSEXUALITY either,
> that
> IT IS NOT A CHOICE, but an orientation that you are born with,
> obviously.
> Therefore, if you don't believe it's wrong to eat shellfish and
> pork
> and
> have sex outside of marriage, why do you believe that they knew what
> they
> were talking about when it came to homosexuality?"
> Thanks, I feel better.
> Kathy Putnam, MPH
>
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:22:47 -0400 "Joseph A. Dake"
> writes:
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> >
> > I just decided that I would throw in my two cents. I believe that
> > the piece
> > submitted by David Wiley should not be viewed as a mockery of
> those
> > religions that use the Old Testament as a basis for their beliefs.
> I
> > found
> > it a useful piece of information that I will use when discussing
> the
> > issue
> > of homosexuality with individuals who use passages from the Bible
> as
> > a basis
> > for argument about homosexuality being a sin. When they establish
> > the
> > parameters the boundaries of discussion (will not even listen to
> > discussion
> > about free choice, individuality, biology, etc. concerning this
> > issue) then
> > I feel it totally appropriate to discuss the issues within the
> > boundaries of
> > the Old Testament. Why do they feel so strongly about one issue
> and
> > not
> > about another? This does not say that their faith is wrong and
> does
> > not mock
> > their belief system. It is a tool for making them examine their
> > basis for
> > argument within their argument framework.
> >
> > Joe Dake
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Walter A. Hanks"
> > To:
> > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 1:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: Intolerance on the HEDIR?
> >
> >
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> > >
> > > Thank you Andy for being willing to take this issue on. I agree
> > with
> > > you completely. The HEDIR has long been a place where
> > conservative
> > > Christian values are mocked and scorned and anyone daring to
> > suggest
> > > that this is inappropriate is flamed unmercifully.
> > >
> > > I have experienced this intolerance myself, and I have received
> > > numerous emails from others who are afraid to post their views
> to
> > the
> > > list because of the treatment they know they will receive. That
> > is a
> > > sad commentary on this group, and on our profession. I hope
> your
> > > willingness to challenge the norm here will help change that
> part
> > of
> > > the HEDIR ethos.
> > >
> > > I do want to correct one thing you said though. In using the
> old
> > > testament writings to mock Dr. Laura (someone I don't
> particularly
> > > care for either), the writer not only mocked the spiritual roots
> > of
> > > Christianity, as you correctly indicated, but of Islam and
> Judaism
> > as
> > > well. All three religious traditions are rooted in the
> Abrahamic
> > > covenant found in the Old Testatment.
> > >
> > > As one respondent said, we should not go about pointing out
> > > differences, but finding common ground from which to grow
> healthy
> > > relationships. While I do not like Dr. Laura's style, or her
> > > hypocrisy, in preaching abstinence until marriage, monogomy, and
> > > fidelity, she is supporting critical public health goals.
> Instead
> > of
> > > mocking and insulting her, we ought to be helping to mold her
> > message
> > > into one more in tune with what the nation needs, and will
> accept.
> > >
> > > Walt Hanks
> > >
> > >
> > > At 9:17 AM -0700 6/8/00, Andrew Jenkins wrote:
> > > >Fellow HEDIRs,
> > > >
> > > >I'm glad to see the listserv has not gone completely dead for
> the
> > > >summer and a few of y'all are still hard at work at your
> > computers.
> > > >
> > > >My comments regarding the Dr. Laura spoof have prompted a fair
> > amount
> > > >of discussion and opinion. It's interesting to me to see
> where
> > the
> > > >thread leads and what was interpreted from each person's
> > comments.
> > > >
> > > >Several of the mail's directed to me or at me are thought
> > provoking but
> > > >I'll only respond briefly to two central points brought up by
> Don
> > and
> > > >Laurie.
> > > >
> > > >First of all, Don thanks for plugging my book ;) But
> "no-thanks"
> > for
> > > >accusing me of waffling on my stand on critical thinking, my
> > opposition
> > > >to intellectual laziness and my championing freedom of thought.
> > Here's
> > > >my position in a few paragraphs:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Laurie wrote:
> > > >>But the HEDIR, of all places, is FAMOUS for critically
> examining
> > every
> > > >
> > > >>perspective ever presented. A critical examination of a
> > religious
> > > >>perspective here is not different than what is always done
> here.
> > > >
> > > >I could not agree more! The HEDIR is an appropriate place for
> > critical
> > > >examination and discussion of religious dogmas as they relate
> to
> > > >wellness (i.e. the spiritual dimension). I do not, however,
> > think that
> > > >the HEDIR is a good venue for making fun of religious beliefs
> or
> > > >historical writings. Humor is appropriate on the HEDIR but not
> > mean
> > > >spirited humor. The spiritual domain, as we all know, is often
> a
> > > >sensitive are for many people and a good deal of reverence and
> > mutual
> > > >respect is called for when intervening in this area. That's
> all
> > I'm
> > > >saying. I usually witness a great deal of respect on the HEDIR
> > to
> > > >cultures and acceptance of differing belief systems and felt
> > this post
> > > >was incongruent with the general tone of the list.
> > > >
> > > >If the goal was to "put Dr. Laura in her place" for being a
> > hypocrite,
> > > >why not point out her own divorce, her posing for nude
> pictures,
> > her
> > > >former living in sin with a much older man? To mock the Old
> > Testament
> > > >is to mock the basis for the spiritual health of millions of
> > people who
> > > >are NOT pious radio talk show hosts but ARE the very citizens
> we
> > are
> > > >trying to help with our health promotional messages.
> > > >
> > > >If we are going to have an intellectual discussion of
> religious
> > > >dogmas, then let's do that. If we are going to talk about the
> > damaging
> > > >effects of certain talk show hosts, let's do that but let's
> not
> > > >ridicule the underpinnings of the anyone's spiritual beliefs.
> > > >
> > > >Andy J :{)
> > > >
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> Kathy Putnam, Director, Radford Office on Youth
> 30 First Street
> Radford, Va 24141
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> Fax: (540) 731-4857
>
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Kathy Putnam, Director, Radford Office on Youth
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#1130
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 15:03:31 -0500
From: Wendy Cameron
Subject: Is this really intolerance or is it ignorance?
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Since the fall of man in the Garden of Eden, man has been created in a
sinful state. God sent His son to die on the cross for us that we would be
cleansed of our sins if we choose to walk with Him. Some of us choose to
and some of us don't. For those of us who do we are to be committed to
prayer, Bible reading and gathering with other Christians. It is this
faith in God that allows us to be 100% posit