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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 13:21:10 -0600
From: rick petosa <petosa.1@OSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sources of information

** Award winning program in Wellness Mgt and Gerontology
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** Contact Fisher Institute for Wellness and Gerontology,
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HEDIR SPORT

I wonder why a clear opinion ( particularly a political position) is
quickly attacked on the HEDIR. The attacks strike me as PC posturing . By
that I mean, they beg the question, pretty much any question, demanding
evidence (which Mark has generously provided below) without:

1. providing "evidence" to the contrary
` 2. risking the clear statement of an
alternative position.
3. providing evidence for the unspoken
alternative.
Rather, it is the same old, passive-aggressive, sucker-punching, armchair
critic, homogenizing, PC notion that: a clear or strong position is an
"offensive" ,"incomplete" and '"Uniformed" position. My concern is that
these discussions expend time and emotional energy, creating an impression
among participants that something was accomplished. After all was said and
done: much said, nothing done. Perhaps someone could provide a historical
review of the relationship between the most recent version (1980 to
present) of republican, conservative politics and public health/health
promotion/education. Now that would be a compassionate conservative public
service.
Does it matter if I agree or disagree with a particular position? Does it
matter if that is all I do? *see ans.

rick (flame me now) petosa
* no, yes.

At 09:01 PM 1/12/01 -0600, you wrote:
>** Award winning program in Wellness Mgt and Gerontology
>** offers GA Stipend of $8000+ tuition waiver.
>** Contact Fisher Institute for Wellness and Gerontology,
>** Ball State University; call 1-888-WELL-BSU
>** Web Page: http://www.bsu.edu/wellness (2/1)
>
>Because the credibility of my information has been questioned I would like to
>post several sources for your consideration.
>
>Note: You may believe this does not pertain to you. I suggest, however, that
>the Illinois experience is the norm rather than the aberration. In the last
>four years we have witnessed successful attacks against the collection of
>YRBSS
>data and attacks (fortunately thus far largely unsuccessful) against health
>education and HIV prevention. These attacks have been based on lies,
>half-truths, misinformation, and distortions. The irony is that these attacks
>have been supported and FUNDED by the Citizens for Excellence in Education.
> How
>can a group that champions local control ethically involve themselves in
>matters thousands of miles away?
>
>First, read Nina Easton's Gang of Five: Leaders at the Center of the
>Conservative Crusade. This is a gripping account to the lives and times of
>Bill
>Kristol, Ralph Reed, Clint Bolick, Grover Norquist, and David McIntosh - five
>people at the center of political conservatism in the U.S.
>
> Easton, N. J. (2000). Gang of Five: Leaders at the Center of the
>Conservative Crusade.New York: Simon & Schuster.
>
>Next, visit extremist websites and sign-up for their free e-mail posts and
>mailings. Sure, you will get additional e-mail (I receive about thirty a
>day). These e-mails remind me on a daily basis of what we are up against.
>They provide insight into the issues and strategies of these groups. Peruse
>their sites - pay close attention to health and education information.
>
>Note: I truly respect these groups for putting their money and action behind
>their beliefs. I wish our profession could be more inclined to act.
> * The American Family Association - http://www.afa.net/
> * Christian Coalition - http://www.cc.org/
> * Concerned Women for America - http://www.cwfa.org/
> * Eagle Forum - http://www.eagleforum.org/
> * Family Research Council - http://www.frc.org/
> * Focus on the Family - http://www.family.org (Check "Public Policy" area
> for e-mail links)
> * Heritage Foundation - http://www.heritage.org/
>Visit these sites (Warning: These sites may produce fits of rage):
> * Christian Alert Network - http://www.vvm.com/~ctomlin/home.htm
> * Citizens for Excellence in Education - http://www.nace-cee.org/ - You
> simply must visit http://www.nace-cee.org/strategy.html
> * Exodus Mandate -http://www.exodus2000.org/
> * Family Friendly Libraries - http://www.fflibraries.org/
> * Separation of School and State - http://www.sepschool.org/
>One last thought as I retreat into my world of insecurity and uncertainty, an
>old Chinese blessing states, "May you live in interesting times." I'm
>certainly blessed. What a great country this is!
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>Health Education at Illinois State University
>Leadership Compassion Courage Innovation
>
>Mark A. Temple, PhD, CHES
>matempl@ilstu.edu
>http://www.cast.ilstu.edu/temple/menu.htm
>
>Never doubt that a small group of committed citizens can change the world,
>indeed it is the only thing that ever has.
>Magaret Meade
>_______________________________
>
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#90
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:53:52 +0000
From: "Karen Denard Goldman & Robert L. Goldman" <rlgkdg@FLASH.NET>
Subject: Re: Yes...let's openly discuss the issues

** Award winning program in Wellness Mgt and Gerontology
** offers GA Stipend of $8000+ tuition waiver.
** Contact Fisher Institute for Wellness and Gerontology,
** Ball State University; call 1-888-WELL-BSU
** Web Page: http://www.bsu.edu/wellness (2/1)

It's good to know that the health education organizations are helping health
educators focus on this by offering their annual Advocacy Summit in February.
May I suggest that you all check it out - the way I get to it is through
<http://www.sophe.org/>www.sophe.org and see if this is something you'd
like to
participate in or perhaps even replicate locally. NJSOPHE has a wonderful
advocacy training programs any health education organization or health
educator
would be proud to call their own. I wonder how many professional preparation
programs teach advocacy in their methods courses. Hope more and more.

kdg

At 11:54 AM 1/12/01 -0600, Mark Temple wrote:
>** Award winning program in Wellness Mgt and Gerontology
>** offers GA Stipend of $8000+ tuition waiver.
>** Contact Fisher Institute for Wellness and Gerontology,
>** Ball State University; call 1-888-WELL-BSU
>** Web Page: <http://www.bsu.edu/wellness>http://www.bsu.edu/wellness (2/1)
>
>Rather than send me personal e-mails telling me what an ignorant, terrible,
and
>hate-filled person I am...Please share with the list the information you
>possess that makes you smile and anxiously await the next four years! I'd
love
>to be enlightened with your critical thought regarding myriad health issues.
>
>The ISSUE at hand...that some of you clearly do not recognize, that Dave
Wiley
>and others have been shouting about for years...is that many health educators
>are seemingly politically-naive. We possess the knowledge and experience
that
>should inform public health and educational policy yet we sit back and let
>others drive the agenda.
>
>Call me any name you want...I could not care less. There is a "moral civil
>war" (Charlton Heston, Ralph Reed, and Jerry Falwell's words...not mine)
going
>on. The side of social conservatism has just won a victory. Have you ever
>tried talking openly and honestly with opponents of research and theory-based
>health education programs? I have. Whew! I can get a more thoughtful
>consideration of the issues from my Dalmatian (and he ain't too bright).
>
>During the next four years school-based health programs will suffer.
>Comprehensive sexuality education will suffer. Select programs at the
Centers
>for Disease Control and Prevention will suffer. Our clients and students
will
>suffer. Call me extreme and hate-filled...but that riles me up. We must
act!
>
>Just label me an ignorant, southern-born, fiscal conservative, social
>libertarian who needs to be enlightened. Where am I missing the proverbial
>"boat"? Please share your critical examination of the issues!
>________________________________
>
>Health Education at Illinois State University
>Leadership Compassion Courage Innovation
>
>Mark A. Temple, PhD, CHES
>matempl@ilstu.edu
><<http://www.cast.ilstu.edu/temple/menu.htm>http://www.cast.ilstu.edu/temp
le/menu.htm><http://www.cast.ilstu.edu/newtem>http://www.cast.ilstu.edu/newtem
>ple/menu.htm
>
>"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change
>the world;
>indeed it is the only thing that ever has."
>Margaret Meade
>_______________________________
>
>** Special Offer for Social Marketing
>** <http://www.hedir.org/smq>http://www.hedir.org/smq
>** Go to the HEDIR Job Page
>** <http://www.hedir.org/paid>http://www.hedir.org/paid 2/15
>** Thanks for supporting the HEDIR by Advertising Jobs!
>** More info:
<http://www.hpcareer.net/hedir.htm>http://www.hpcareer.net/hedir.htm
>

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Karen Denard Goldman, PhD, CHES Phone: 718-855-2164
Health Education and Social Marketing Consultant Fax: 718-855-1247
Adjunct Associate Professor, New York University Email: RLGKDG@flash.net
Coordinator, New York State Coalition for Health Education
184 Columbia Heights
Brooklyn, NY 11201
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#91
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:55:22 +0000
From: "Karen Denard Goldman & Robert L. Goldman" <rlgkdg@FLASH.NET>
Subject: Fwd: [njsophe] Fw: Fourth Annual Health Education Advocacy Summit,
Feb 24-26, 2001

** Award winning program in Wellness Mgt and Gerontology
** offers GA Stipend of $8000+ tuition waiver.
** Contact Fisher Institute for Wellness and Gerontology,
** Ball State University; call 1-888-WELL-BSU
** Web Page: http://www.bsu.edu/wellness (2/1)

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