#1273
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:42:31 -0800
From: Mark Fulop <fulopm@NWREL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Health Educators: Singular...spectacular, or splintered,
stat us quo?
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Michael
Please, tell us how you really feel : ) I have a few thoughts that I add to
the fire
It is disingenuous to compare the feeble, unregulated and unlicensed
profession of health education with such folks as docs or rns. The stakes in
the licensed professions are much higher and so the need for
institutionalized political clout is critical. I would even suggest that
the "license" and not the profession is the unifying concept for both docs
and rns. As has been noted by others, professionally rns and docs are
specialized and professionalized according to the specialty. BUT, rns' and
docs' power is in the "license" NOT the profession. The power and unity is
exercised when the "license" is threatened or perceived to be undermined
(i.e., rns blocking paraprofessionals taking increased roles in care; or
docs blocking 3rd party reimbursement for alternative health care providers)
At best, health education is ill-defined and, in many areas of practice
downright shlocky. Case in point, here is part of an actual advertisement
for a health education "director" position advertised by a local non-profit
health care provider:
>>>>Director of Education and Training: Responsible for providing
leadership and directing all activities of Education Department. Requires
Bachelor's degree and min 5 years of proven management experience. Previous
experience in human sexuality education required. Excellent presentation
skills, communication skills, program design, and a demonstrated ability to
work with diverse populations, as well as an ability to work flexible
hours.<<<<
Now, Michael, I would have liked to have seen Ralph Nader sitting in the
Whitehouse along with the rest of the us lefties but I had to be real when I
voted in the last election. Do you really think one more organization is
going to solve the endemic problems with health education when National CBO
organizations allow locals to recruit for a "director" position that
requires neither an MPH nor even a BA in health education?
Mark
ps. If we collapsed all of the orgs into one where would the academics
publish for tenure?
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Mark P. Fulop, MA, MPH
Director, National Mentoring Center
Email: fulopm@nwrel.org
Northwest Regional Educational Laboratory
101 S.W. Main Street, Suite 500
Portland, OR 97204
(503) 275-0121 (p)
(503) 275-0444 (f)
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#1274
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:32:37 -0500
From: Michael Pejsach <healthedman@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: Health Educators: Singular...spectacular, or splintered, s
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Mark,
You're correct in your analysis that the doc and rn are powerful via
the "license." No dout, however, that they got there through some
sort of organizational process. Perhaps that process included
reliance on a single voice, some sort of single professional
organization. They didn't gain licensure and board certification, as
individuals or through a coalition. They didn't get licensure by
waiting for the profession "to evolve." Nurses and Docs didn't wait
around. They had, for the most part, a strong singular voice, not
several organizations trying to harmonized...when they had the
quality to meet..
Our CHES certification took about 10 years from the first Bethesda
Meeting to the first group "grandfathered" in as CHES. Thank
goodness for a handful of activist health educators who pushed
that agenda. The next step is to require the CHES...it's been 10
more years and all I see is "strongly recommended," in most job
descriptions...if the administrators or folks hiring, even know what a
CHES is. It seems to me that the CHES is there in place and has
done it's job, now it's time for some serious advocacy work for
health educators. But who will do it? A Coalition? Is there power in
a coalition? Did (I know I'm repeating myself here) RNs and Docs
do it through a coalition?
A group, a large group, via a central organization had to fight for
the licensure (analogous to turf protection) and board certification.
Rns and docs were, generally, unfiied and together on the issue of
licensure. Health Educator, on the other hand, are still questioning
whether we need the CHES or future Masters-level certification.
The next step (evolution?) of the CHES is the license. Yes, I
believe, health eduators need to be licensed/board certified. The
CHES may be the first step (see AR). However, while some say we
should wait for it to evolve, I'm not sure we can get there without all
or the majority of us singing the same song in the same choir. If we
want to have the real power to protect our turf, the vast majority of
health educators need to be on the same page walking the walk,
not just talking the talk of moving forward as a profession. We can't
wait another 10 years. I believe that this first step of togetherness
is through a unified consolidated professional organization, not a
coalition (a coalition is fine for issues, but not for professional
development. ). THIS SINGULAR VOICE can form either as
several of the duplicative organization merge, or AHEA is built to
meet that need (unfortunatley becoming another organization, but
without the society-like attitude, and no umbilical cord to a mother
ship).
Idealism- shmeelism.....This is more on the side of pragmatism. We
need to do something to prevent ads like you included in your e-
mail. Would AAHE or SOPHE send that administrator a letter or
something advocating for health edcuators?
If there are other things we can do that would have the exponential
results we need to protect jobs and skip a few beats to catch up,
PLEASE let me know. Sending more money to AAHE, or joining
SOPHE is not an option. Why send money to help support two
infrastructures when one infrastructure is enough (but which
one???).
M.
PS: Academicians can, as several have done here in the deep
south in the recent past, create addtional journals to which they
can publish. SOPHE and AAHE journals will still be around.....
until, of course, such time that the majority of health educator folks
move over to an AHEA organization (we now have 57 members
and growing!) and AHEA merely absorbs them (blasphemy!). ;-)
> From: Mark Fulop <fulopm@NWREL.ORG>
> Date: 2002/12/02 Mon PM 01:42:31 EST
> To: HEDIR-L@SIU.EDU
> Subject: Re: Health Educators: Singular...spectacular, or
splintered,
> stat us quo?
>
> **
> ** Leading into the Future-AAHE
> ** Official Sponsor of the HEDIR
> **
>
> Michael
>
> Please, tell us how you really feel : ) I have a few thoughts that I
add to
> the fire
>
> It is disingenuous to compare the feeble, unregulated and
unlicensed
> profession of health education with such folks as docs or rns.
The stakes in
> the licensed professions are much higher and so the need for
> institutionalized political clout is critical. I would even suggest
that
> the "license" and not the profession is the unifying concept for
both docs
> and rns. As has been noted by others, professionally rns and
docs are
> specialized and professionalized according to the specialty.
BUT, rns' and
> docs' power is in the "license" NOT the profession. The power
and unity is
> exercised when the "license" is threatened or perceived to be
undermined
> (i.e., rns blocking paraprofessionals taking increased roles in
care; or
> docs blocking 3rd party reimbursement for alternative health
care providers)
>
> At best, health education is ill-defined and, in many areas of
practice
> downright shlocky. Case in point, here is part of an actual
advertisement
> for a health education "director" position advertised by a local
non-profit
> health care provider:
>
> >>>>Director of Education and Training: Responsible for
providing
> leadership and directing all activities of Education Department.
Requires
> Bachelor's degree and min 5 years of proven management
experience. Previous
> experience in human sexuality education required. Excellent
presentation
> skills, communication skills, program design, and a
demonstrated ability to
> work with diverse populations, as well as an ability to work
flexible
> hours.<<<<
>
> Now, Michael, I would have liked to have seen Ralph Nader
sitting in the
> Whitehouse along with the rest of the us lefties but I had to be
real when I
> voted in the last election. Do you really think one more
organization is
> going to solve the endemic problems with health education
when National CBO
> organizations allow locals to recruit for a "director" position that
> requires neither an MPH nor even a BA in health education?
>
> Mark
>
> ps. If we collapsed all of the orgs into one where would the
academics
> publish for tenure?
>
>
> ------
> Mark P. Fulop, MA, MPH
> Director, National Mentoring Center
> Email: fulopm@nwrel.org
>
> Northwest Regional Educational Laboratory
> 101 S.W. Main Street, Suite 500
> Portland, OR 97204
> (503) 275-0121 (p)
> (503) 275-0444 (f)
>
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#1275
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 18:59:09 -0500
From: Randall Cottrell <Randall.Cottrell@UC.EDU>
Subject: Management Text Book
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I am posting the following message for Dr. Amy Bernard. Please respond
directly to her at <Amy.Bernard@uc.edu>
I am looking for a textbook on the management of health promotion and
education programs for a graduate level Health Program Management
course. If anyone knows of a good textbook for this subject, please
respond with any specifics you may have. Thanks!
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#1276
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 22:30:11 -0500
From: Lauren Bailey Zapata <lbailey3@TAMPABAY.RR.COM>
Subject: Research Associate Position Available in Tampa Florida
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The University of South Florida Department of Community and Family Health
seek applications from qualified applicants for the three (3) non-tenure
earning full-time positions of Associate in Research. The Associate in
Research is responsible for day-to-day implementation of the evaluation plan
for the Florida Health Literacy Study. The position is a highly responsible
one requiring sound judgment and excellent communication skills.
Minimum Qualifications: Academic Preparation: a Master’s Degree in the
Social and Behavioral Sciences or a health-related field; formal training in
applied research methodology and multivariable quantitative data analysis;
excellent written and oral skills; 2 years experience working with complex
organizational structures; ability to travel within the State of Florida on
a weekly basis; and 2 years experience with the following applications:
Microsoft Word 2000, Microsoft Excel 2000, Microsoft PowerPoint 2000, and
Microsoft Access 2000.
Preferred Qualifications: Experience in working with community-based
agencies; experience in a clinic setting; experience with SAS 8.0 or more
recent version; fluency in Spanish; 2 3 years experience as a member of a
research team; demonstrated commitment to research on improving access to
health care among underserved populations.
Salary: $36,000 annually
To Apply: Submit letter of application, resume, names of three references
and a writing sample to: Melinda S. Forthofer, Ph.D, c/o Kristin Trayner,
Program Coordinator, Florida Health Literacy Study, 4809 E. Busch Blvd,
Suite 104, Tampa, FL 33617, 813-971-2119 x117, Email:
ktrayner@hsc.usf.edu. Search will remain open until filled, with
application review beginning December 9, 2002.
USF is an AA/EO/EA Institution. For disability accommodation, contact
Kristin Trayner at (813) 971-2119 x117. According to Florida law,
applications and meetings regarding them are open to the public.
Lauren Bailey Zapata
College of Public Health
University of South Florida
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