#87
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 09:10:05 -0600
From: "Mark J. Kittleson, PhD, FAAHB" <kittle@SIU.EDU>
Subject: CHES Review Information
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Been asked to forward this:
Greetings, colleagues! Thank you, Ruth, for providing an online review
program - it's a great service and there's much demand!
KDG Consulting offers two services: (1) a review course on three Saturdays
before the exam, and (2) a packet of review materials.
For further information:
kdgconsulting@verizon.net www.kdgconsulting.net
<http://www.kdgconsulting.net/>
Karen Denard Goldman, PhD, CHES
Co-author, <http://www.sophe.org/Acrobat/Tools%20Order%20Form.pdf> Health
Education Tools of the Trade: Tools for Tasks That Didn't Come with the Job
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#88
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:38:27 -0500
From: KDG Consulting <kdgconsulting@VERIZON.NET>
Subject: Health Education Prep Question
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Bill, just to stir up the pot a bit, I'd like to take on your opening
sentence and tweak its intended meaning a bit and ask everyone if, in our
efforts to development preparation programs wherever they could in
institutions of higher education - and remember, I know this isn't what you
meant - what do people think of health education professional preparation
courses at the two-year/community/junior college level on their way to a BA
or BS in health education? Please let me be clear - I am NOT asking for or
recommending an associates degree in health education - everyone got that? -
I'm asking what you think of the idea of making courses available at
two-year colleges as a way to recruit students into health education right
from the start? Does anyone have or know of a partnership with a community
college to promote health education careers? What do you think might be the
best "starter" classes that would prepare students for the more advanced
courses once they transferred to a four-year school? And please remember -
two-year college college courses are equivalent to four-year college courses
- it's the developmental/remedial courses that are different. An
Introduction to the Health Education Profession at a two-year (accredited)
college is of the same caliber as that course in a four-year college. Any
reactions?
Karen Denard Goldman, PhD, CHES
Co-author, <http://www.sophe.org/Acrobat/Tools%20Order%20Form.pdf> Health
Education Tools of the Trade: Tools for Tasks That Didn't Come with the Job
Description
Health, Physical Education and Recreation
Kingsborough Community College
<mailto:kgoldman@kbcc.cuny.edu> kgoldman@kbcc.cuny.edu
President, KDG Consulting
Training and Development for Health Education and Promotion Organizations
and Specialists
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#89
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 09:42:15 -0600
From: "Cissell, William" <WCissell@MAIL.TWU.EDU>
Subject: Re: HEDIR Update
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#90
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:06:14 -0600
From: "Cissell, William" <WCissell@MAIL.TWU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Health Education Prep Question
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#91
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:21:51 -0600
From: Dale Hardt <hardt@UWOSH.EDU>
Subject: Re: HEDIR Update
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Rick,
Much like Bill, I too was unable to attend Dr. Russell's funeral but I will
be anxiously awaiting your summer followup. It is impossible for me to put
into words how much this man meant to both my professional AND my personal
growth. Because of him, I remind myself often that one person can have an
overwhelming affect on a student and his/her life.
Thanks for the update..
Dale Hardt
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#92
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 12:25:52 -0500
From: Daniel Leviton <dleviton@UMD.EDU>
Subject: Teaching re disasters and other forms of people-caused deaths
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I have been teaching about people-caused types of death (grouped under =
the umbrella term, "Horrendous Death,") i.e., description, root and =
other causes, a suggestion concerning the process toward prevention, =
etc. in my Death Education class (Hlth. 476) and the Adult Health and =
Development Program (Health 487) since the 1980s. I am willing to send =
the Powerpoint presentation if requested.
Dan
Dr. Daniel Leviton
Director, The Adult Health & Development Program
Dept. Public & Community Health
University of Maryland
College Park, MD 20742-2611
Phone: (301) 405-2528; Fax: (301) 445-1546
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#93
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:26:24 -0700
From: Debby McCormick <Debby.McCormick@NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Health Education Prep Question
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Hello Bill, Karen, and the HEDIR:<br><br>
Here at Northern Arizona University, we also are working to develop
community college-university partnerships that allow students to transfer
their community college work in health education/promotion into our
Bachelor of Science degree in Health Sciences: Community Health.
Our B.S. degree is offered both residentially and online, thus allowing
access for place-bound students or students in remote areas.
<br><br>
Additionally, we have well-developed community college-university
partnerships related to our Bachelor of Applied Science in Health
Sciences. This degree allows allied health professionals with an
associate degree in a specific allied health discipline to transfer their
work toward a BAS in Health Sciences that includes an overview of key
issues in health from a health promotion/prevention perspective, as well
as key skills needed for leadership/management in health
organizations. This program is offered online, again allowing
access for place-bound students or students in remote areas.<br><br>
As is happening in many states, Arizona community colleges are seeking
approval to deliver 4-year degrees in many disciplines, but with our
existing partnerships in the allied health areas, there seems to be a
general willingness from both sides to work together in partnership in
these allied health areas rather than pushing for separate degree
programs. I think this has allowed us to serve prospective students
in an effective and efficient manner.<br><br>
Since our degrees are offered entirely online and are targeted for
working health professionals and practitioners, we have students who are
located all over the world, some of whom are working in remote locations
with underserved populations who are in critical need of their
services. As working health professionals, these students have an
incredible amount of knowledge and experience to contribute to the
academic environment. They are also able to quickly recognize how
the knowledge and skills they are acquiring can be immediately useful to
them in their current work settings. Through this process, we are
able to provide health education/promotion knowledge and skills to
clinically trained allied health professionals. In turn, these
professionals become passionate advocates and activists for health
education/promotion within the overall healthcare environment. It
has been an interesting and exciting journey!!<br><br>
Debby :)<br><br>
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#94
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 11:40:36 -0700
From: Pat VanMaanen <pat@PVHEALTHSOLUTIONS.COM>
Subject: Re: Request for media assistance
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This is interesting and timely. In Arizona we have been working on framing
health care messages so that we move from a typical "sympathy" message about
the uninsured family or the low income worker who has no health care
coverage because the employer doesn't offer health insurance, etc. to a
frame where everyone can see they are part of the "system" and as such, take
stake that the system needs to be fixed in order for health care to work for
everyone.
Recently our local paper did a six part series on health care and the
"crisis" our health care system is in. Many of us worked with the reporters
on the topic sharing models, ideas for improvement and data, etc. In the
end the personal stories always win out as they are most compelling.
However, they never seem to get to true policy and infrastructure change.
As such, I cringe when I see media sending out emails as noted below even if
well intended, knowing it will highlight a given situation for but a brief
moment, yet not getting us any closer to improvements in the long run.
We have our work ahead of us as it is very hard to change the "frame" from
which we and the media see situations especially one so complex as our
health care system.
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#95
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:44:53 -0800
From: Mark Fulop <markfulop@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Disaster preparedness and emergency response
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>What are the fields of health promotion, public
> health and health
> education doing to address the issues related to
> disasters?
Marjorie
Your question is not simply an academic one but highly
important for urban-based health educators. I have
been doing some informational interviews with the
local county health department manager and one of the
trends that was pointed out to me was increasing money
coming to the health department from "Homeland
Security" related to disaster preparedness and
emergency response. In Portland, some of the
traditional prevention monies (i.e., tobacco
prevention) have been dwindling and so there likely to
be an internal shifting of resources and bodies from
disease prevention to disaster prevention in the old
game of “follow the money.” In that way, even
post-graduation, health educators would do well to
consider building their knowledge base of disaster
preparedness.
However, I would also argue that we are not starting
from scratch or that health educators have no place at
the table. I know that when I studied environmental
health, although it was not my passion, at least
portions of the course were about managing
pan/epidemics (i.e., the specter of Avian Flu
pandemic). Also, Community assessment and planning is
the basis for the development of regional responses.
Also, thinking about systems was the basis for some of
my elective study courses in International health.
And, as was even illustrated by Donna, health
educators find their way into disaster planning and
education roles. I think of several colleagues I know
whom work/have worked in the American Red Cross or in
international relief organizations like Portland-based
Mercy Corps.
Also, if you look at the profession of "disaster
preparedness” you will actually find a robust
organizational structure. There are several disaster
preparedness professional associations such as:
International Association of Emergency Managers
(http://iaem.com); American College of Contingency
Planners (ACCP) a specialty group of the American
Academy of Medical Administrators
http://www.aameda.org/Specialtygroups/ACCP/contingency.html;
and, American Society of Professional Emergency
Planners (ASPEP) http://www.aspep.org/.
IAEM offers a pretty robust certification for disaster
preparedness managers and FEMA offers an emergency
management Institute,
http://www.training.fema.gov/emiweb. FEMA also has
the National Incident Management System Capability
Assessment Support Tool which is a planning framework
http://www.fema.gov/nimcast/index.jsp and of course
the Department of Homeland Security offers information
on Security Emergencies and Disasters
http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/theme_home2.jsp
Thanks for starting a thoughty discussion!
So I think that there might be a two pronged approach
which includes some focus, perhaps a minor, in
emergency management and post graduation, a
professional development focus on disasters and
emergencies.
Mark Fulop, MA, MPH
PO Box 13094
Portland, OR 97213
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#96
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 11:48:08 -0700
From: "Ernesto (Ernie) A. Randolfi, Ph.D." <randolfi@MSUBILLINGS.EDU>
Subject: Re: public health and disasters
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To all:
Although the increase in emails are a concern, I welcome the return to
healthy discourse on the HEDIR. I will henceforth promise to use my delete
key with =B3irrational exuberance=B2 (Thank you Dr. Greenspan).
To Marjorie and other interested persons,
I was recently invited to deliver some workshops on prevention and the
emotional health consequences of disasters/traumatic events and found many
useful resources at the Websites below. Hope some of this is useful to
others.
Ernie Randolfi
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/healthinformation/traumaticmenu.cfm
http://www.samhsa.gov/Disaster/professional_disaster.aspx
http://www.mentalhealth.samhsa.gov/cmhs/EmergencyServices/after.asp
http://www.centerforthestudyoftraumaticstress.org/education.public.shtml
http://www.aaets.org/crisisindex.html
http://www.ptsdinfo.org/
http://www.ncptsd.va.gov/facts/specific/
http://www.trauma-pages.com/
http://www.istss.org/terrorism/professionals.htm
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/full/10.1111/1529-1006.01421?cookieSet=
=3D
1
http://www.bryanbledsoe.com/pdf/journals/CISM%20(Bledsoe).pdf
Specific to Children (Note: Much of this is repetitive)
http://www.childtrauma.com/
http://www.nasponline.org/NEAT/ptsd.html
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/articles/29064-5.asp
http://www.aboutourkids.org/aboutour/articles/crisis_schoolhealth.html#
http://www.ericdigests.org/2002-3/post.htm
http://www.notmykid.org/parentArticles/PTSD/default.asp
http://teachers.net/gazette/NOV02/fyi7.html
http://www.aea10.k12.ia.us/schcomplan/cism/cismdocs.html
http://www.education.ucsb.edu/schpsych/School-Violence/PDF/Brock-CSP-2000.p=
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#97
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 11:56:00 -0700
From: lolsen <lolsen@NMSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Health Education Prep Question
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At New Mexico State University, we have an Associate in Public Health Degree
that is offered at the Dona Ana Branch of NMSU, which is a two-year program
specifically designed to get people into the public health/health education
"pipeline" as first year students. These students then matriculate to the
Bachelor of Community Health Degree program offered on main campus. Theresa
Brandon, the wife of Jeff Brandon, Dean of the College of Health and Social
Services at NMSU, is the individual who coordinates this program.
Larry
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Bill, just to stir up the pot a bit, I'd like to take on your opening
sentence and tweak its intended meaning a bit and ask everyone if, in our
efforts to development preparation programs wherever they could in
institutions of higher education - and remember, I know this isn't what you
meant - what do people think of health education professional preparation
courses at the two-year/community/junior college level on their way to a BA
or BS in health education? Please let me be clear - I am NOT asking for or
recommending an associates degree in health education - everyone got that? -
I'm asking what you think of the idea of making courses available at
two-year colleges as a way to recruit students into health education right
from the start? Does anyone have or know of a partnership with a community
college to promote health education careers? What do you think might be the
best "starter" classes that would prepare students for the more advanced
courses once they transferred to a four-year school? And please remember -
two-year college college courses are equivalent to four-year college courses
- it's the developmental/remedial courses that are different. An
Introduction to the Health Education Profession at a two-year (accredited)
college is of the same caliber as that course in a four-year college. Any
reactions?
Karen Denard Goldman, PhD, CHES
Co-author, <http://www.sophe.org/Acrobat/Tools%20Order%20Form.pdf> Health
Education Tools of the Trade: Tools for Tasks That Didn't Come with the Job
Description
Health, Physical Education and Recreation
Kingsborough Community College
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#98
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 14:42:18 -0500
From: Sherry Twidwell <stwidwel@KENNESAW.EDU>
Subject: Wellness Library
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I am the director of the Wellness Center at Kennesaw State University
and want to update our video library. Does anyone have any suggestions?
We want a variety of topics relating to college age students.
Thanks in advance!
--Sherry
Sherry (Twidwell) Grable, M.Ed.
Director
Center for Health Promotion and Wellness
Kennesaw State University
1000 Chastain Road, MB #0301
Kennesaw, GA 30144-5591
Phone: (770) 499-3517
Fax: (770) 499-3324
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#99
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 14:42:35 -0600
From: Michael Pejsach <healthedman@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: HEDIR Update
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Bill,
I do understand the recruitment issues, having worked with a
university division which relied heavily on numbers game to sustain
its program and number of faculty. However, I believe what ails
health education (comparatively speaking) overshadows the recruitment
issues. I believe if we deal with, and plan on solving the big
issues, those issues that I mentioned in my message to Craig, an easy
cure will surface for smaller issues, such as recruitment, placement,
and the like.
In 1978 the first "role delineation" document hit my desk, at Temple
University, via an NIH-type newsletter/mailing (I still have it
somewhere!). It's been almost 30 years! Yes, the CHES is alive and
well, I hope, but we're still making less money that nurses and
psychologists, we're still being replaced by RNs, we still don't have
a state by state registry, we still delineate between, and/or side
with either, public health educators and those with a PE background,
and on and on. Lots of health education going on in the workplace,
but those jobs are going to occuptational health specialists or
nurses, not CHES....where are we on that issue? 30 years after the
role delineation was first printed and nurses are "playing" health
educator in larger numbers. I think enough is enough!
In April of 1985 there was talk of merging key professional
organizations.... That was more than 20 years ago! Each
organization continue to go to, basically, the same membership pool
to get members, sustain meetings, make a solid bottom line so they
don't go bankrupt, and the like. Divide and conquer?
Can we continue talking about those BIG issues that we need to spend
the next decade solving, to, in my humble opinion, save and/or
enhance the profession, ALWAYS keeping in mind that,
1, there is a solution to any and all problems,
2. brainstorming, with all the rules that apply to true
brainstorming, any idea is an okay idea,
3. a win-win can always be found, if folks are willing to empower
others (real empowerment, i.e., giving up something!); we need to
come to the table (the HEDIR?) and GIVE something up because GIVERS
ALWAYS GET! It's not about farming or grazing at the meeting of
minds to benefit yourself or your agenda. It's about developing
relationships and giving something to each others, that BENEFITS THE
PROFESSION, because, without exception, givers gain. It really does
work!
Imagine what we could accomplish, and how our current and future
students would benefit, if we all sat down at the table, open our
selves up to really talk about our passions for the profession
(without fear of attack), explain what we would like to see the
health education profession become or not to become, be willing to
brainstorm, and then be willing to give or give up something, to
enhance practice, protect our turf, build our programs, building the
health education profession!
Imagine...now, I know what John Lennon was talking about.
I believe the HEDIR can be a great meeting place. We can build
something great here!
JUST DO IT!
Michael
Dr. Michael Pejsach, Ed.D.
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#100
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 14:45:45 -0600
From: "Sara L. Cole" <slcole@ILSTU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Wellness Library
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<body>
The Education of Shelby Knox is good for discussions on sexuality
education.<br><br>
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#101
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:07:31 -0600
From: "Karl L. Larson" <klarson3@GUSTAVUS.EDU>
Subject: Re: HEDIR Update
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Michael,
I know your deep commitment to merge the professional organizations into
one superpower for health ed, and I think in many circumstances that
idea may have merit. But I would contend that it is not simply the
organizations themselves, but the mission of those groups. More and more
national conferences, regardless of which one, are a tool for academics
to present their work, presumably for the tenure process. What I think
is missing in grand numbers are these grass roots practitioners that are
the lifeblood of the profession. Individuals working in the field
outnumber academics 20fold, yet it is exactly the opposite at our
national conferences. And it really doesn't matter if they are nurses or
psychologists, or health educators...they hold the responsibility for
promoting and managing health education in the community. Community
practitioners, however, are not afforded the luxury (yes, luxury) of
disappearing from their jobs for a week to attend a conference in Utah,
or Dallas, or Baltimore, not to mention that the financial resources for
them to do so are almost invisible. If we are really going to "talk",
perhaps part of our discussion should be on how the professional
organizations can create a mechanism to get everybody to the table.
Otherwise you might as well create a white paper on the what we think we
ought to be and distribute it around the nation....you'd have about as
much success.
Just another thought.
Karl
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#102
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 14:08:08 -0700
From: Debby McCormick <Debby.McCormick@NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Please Post
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Hi Mark:
For some reason, I don't seem to be able to post to the HEDIR
list-serv. Would you be willing to post this for me?
Thanks for all that you do!
Debby :)
Hello Bill, Karen, and the HEDIR:
Here at Northern Arizona University, we also are working to develop
community college-university partnerships that allow students to transfer
their community college work in health education/promotion into our
Bachelor of Science degree in Health Sciences: Community Health. Our B.S.
degree is offered both residentially and online, thus allowing access for
place-bound students or students in remote areas.
Additionally, we have well-developed community college-university
partnerships related to our Bachelor of Applied Science in Health Sciences.
This degree allows allied health professionals with an associate degree in
a specific allied health discipline to transfer their work toward a BAS in
Health Sciences that includes an overview of key issues in health from a
health promotion/prevention perspective, as well as key skills needed for
leadership/management in health organizations. This program is offered
online, again allowing access for place-bound students or students in
remote areas.
As is happening in many states, Arizona community colleges are seeking
approval to deliver 4-year degrees in many disciplines, but with our
existing partnerships in the allied health areas, there seems to be a
general willingness from both sides to work together in partnership in
these allied health areas rather than pushing for separate degree programs.
I think this has allowed us to serve prospective students in an effective
and efficient manner.
Since our degrees are offered entirely online and are targeted for working
health professionals and practitioners, we have students who are located
all over the world, some of whom are working in remote locations with
underserved populations who are in critical need of their services. As
working health professionals, these students have an incredible amount of
knowledge and experience to contribute to the academic environment. They
are also able to quickly recognize how the knowledge and skills they are
acquiring can be immediately useful to them in their current work settings.
Through this process, we are able to provide health education/promotion
knowledge and skills to clinically trained allied health professionals. In
turn, these professionals become passionate advocates and activists for
health education/promotion within the overall healthcare environment. It
has been an interesting and exciting journey!!
Debby :)
Deborah J. McCormick, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor of Health Sciences
Department of Health Sciences
Northern Arizona University
P.O. Box 15095
Flagstaff, AZ 86011-5095
928-523-8534
928-523-0148 (fax)
Debby.McCormick@nau.edu
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#103
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:16:36 -0600
From: "Cissell, William" <WCissell@MAIL.TWU.EDU>
Subject: Re: HEDIR Update
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#104
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 16:16:48 -0500
From: "Sara J. Levinson" <saralevinson@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Disaster preparedness and emergency response
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Hello HEDIR Friends,
=20
I am sure you do not remember me reaching out to you when I relocated from t=
he Bay Area to Chicago years ago and was looking for employement in Health E=
ducation. I found myself now in the position of an Emergency Response Coord=
inator, because that's where the funding was. As a Health Educator, I bring=
a unique set of skills to the table and have found myself now responsible f=
or agency training as it pertains to Emergency Preparedness in addition to m=
y ERC roles of communication, coordination, and collaboration with my commun=
ities. Several of the CHES competencies fit directly into my day to day rol=
es as an ERC: being a resource, coordination, program planning, etc. While=20=
I had no formal "emergency managment" training, my learning curve has been s=
teep and as we all know, content is easy to master its the skills that stay=20=
with us forever. =20
=20
Sara Levinson, MPH, CHES=20
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#105
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:23:18 -0600
From: "Cissell, William" <WCissell@MAIL.TWU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Health Education Prep Question
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#106
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:36:26 -0600
From: "Cissell, William" <WCissell@MAIL.TWU.EDU>
Subject: Re: HEDIR Update
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#106
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 14:52:01 -0700
From: lolsen <lolsen@NMSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: HEDIR Update
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Kelli:
Thanks. Many of us will take the time to reply individually to people who
post things on the HEDIR, and I agree with Kelli that it seems that I
actually "know" some people I have never met. Positive differences of
opinion are healthy; personal attacks destroy. However, a very wise
individual once told me, "If people are talking about me, then someone else
is getting a break."
There are a lot of us who work in academia and do a lot of community work as
well. We understand that unless we can also practice the "tools of the
trade," we can become "rusty." How many of us can still derive the
quadratic equation, or determine a square root the "old fashioned" way?
Larry
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Kenison
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:30 PM
To: HEDIR-L@LISTSERV.SIU.EDU
Subject: Re: HEDIR Update
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Colleagues,
As an "in the trenches" health educator who is passionate about the
profession (and enrolled in a doctoral program in case I ever want to make
the transition to academia), I want to jump in the discussion with my
thoughts.
1. I enjoy all the debate on the HEDIR. I don't appreciate personal
attacks on my colleagues, but do enjoy lively debate with differences of
opinions. If I don't have time for all the emails, I either delete or keep
them until I do have time. Some of you post so frequently that I feel like
I know you. I don't post frequently, but when I have it has usually been to
ask for assistance--and it has always arrived in my in box within minutes or
hours. I also then hear from folks like Larry Olson, who was one of my
professors in my undergraduate program at Arizona State.
2. Even though I have worked in the trenches for more than 20 years, I
certainly appreciate the role of professional preparation and the issues
those in academia face (including less than sexy topics of where health
education/promotion should be placed in a university and accreditation).
Those issues impact all of us.
3. I do think the professional organizations miss out when they don't
attract and keep those of us in the trenches. I have been very active in
our state professional association (and we did merge two health education
professional organizations into one about ten years ago). Our state
association, the South Carolina Association for the Advancement of Health
Education, has a great mix of professionals from academia and "in the
trenches" folks. We work very well together and leadership rotates. Our
conference has a great mix of presentations from both camps.
I have maintained membership in a couple of national professional
organizations, but have not attended conferences in some time--mostly due to
travel costs. I did serve for several years as an NCATE reviewer for
AAHE--one of the few "in the trench" folks to do so, but I know I benefited,
and I hope I made a valuable contribution.
I agree we need to brainstorm how to more successfully involve our "in the
trench" health educators in the national organizations (and how to possibly
merge some if possible) and look forward to hearing from some of you.
Maybe some of us in SC (and I am sure other states) can share our
experiences with state organizations.
Regards,
Kelli Kenison, MS, CHES (and soon to be a doctoral candidate if I ever get
my program of study completed)
Columbia, SC
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#107
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 16:06:27 -0600
From: "Karl L. Larson" <klarson3@GUSTAVUS.EDU>
Subject: Re: HEDIR Update
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In theory, that works great Bill. An yes, admittedly, it is an
opportunity for for a more local flavor. But when do all teams get on
the field together? Many academicians dont bother with state
conferences. why? No tenure credit...the state level stuff is
overlooked. Second: often times state AAHPERD conferences are all PE.
When I began in Indiana in 2001, I went to the state conference and
there were exactly 3 heal session...and I did 2 of them. Had it not been
for a group of us who all came to the state at the same time (Lisa
Angermeier, David Anspaugh, Suzie Crouch, and several others) and
pitched a royal fit about the invisibility of health ed at the state
level they still wouldn't have anything. I just now stated in MN and
again, at least in MNAHPERD, health ed is invisible. Deja vu all over
again.
My point here is that there isn't really a meeting of the minds
happening. Some go here some go there, yet ne'er the 2 shall meet. We
have to change this for meaningful dialogue to occur.
kll
>Karl,
>
>You are absolutely correct about the fact that far fewer grass roots
practitioners have the opportunity or choose to participate in the conferences,
symposia, workshops, etc. planned and implemented by professional organizations.
However, through state and regional chapters or districts of the national
organizations, many practitioners are afforded an opportunity to participate in
conferences, symposia, workshps, etc.
>
>Bill :>)
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#108
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 17:56:00 -0600
From: stburkle <stburkle@SRT.COM>
Subject: Re: HEDIR-L Digest - 30 Jan 2006 to 31 Jan 2006 (#2006-23)
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Hi,
I am a newly registered member of the list serve. I have
been sitting back reading the messages regarding lack of
participation on the list.
I have been an active participant in the NASPE-talk list
serve, being a physical education teacher for the past 15
years. I have recently taken a new position teaching at the
university level. Along with the new job came new
responsibilities as I now find myself teaching Health
Methods and Vital Health Issues. It was my hope that
through this list serve I could take my understanding of
Health to a deeper level.
This leads me to my reason for posting. One of the things
that I have noticed about the PE talk list is that the
members police themselves. If someone gets out of hand, or
attacks another member personally, somebody with a clear
head steps in and reminds the others that we are
professionals and we are there to help each other. The list
has now topped 10,000 members.
I think we need to remember that what we say may be read by
the new health professional. We have the opportunity to
grow and develop as professionals if people participate.
The more ideas we have to bounce around the more apt we are
to experience success and professional support. NASPE has
allowed me to become a much stronger educator, and has
allowed me to feel that I am not alone on an island. There
are people like me who want to grow and to help others grow.
I think that if HEDIR can be welcoming, supportive and
professional there will be participants. Debate is always a
wonderful way to become aware of other ways of seeing issues
and the world. It makes us better people---when done in a
respectful manner. People will join and stay if they are
not threatened and they experience the benefits of sharing
with fellow professionals.
I am saying this because it appears to be an issue with the
L-serve. All I know is what I have experienced through
other lists. I am hoping that I can participate and become a
better health educator by what I learn here.
One last thing. I think the digests will be a lot smaller
if people who post by using the "reply" button delete the
rest of the digest when they make their own additions to the
conversation.
Thanks & I look forward to hearing more from all of you,
Steph
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#109
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 20:46:04 -0500
From: KDG Consulting <kdgconsulting@VERIZON.NET>
Subject: Re: public health and disasters
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What a wonderful, generous thing to do. THIS is yet one more reason to
subscribe to HEDIR. Thank you, Ernie, and to all who share so generously!
kdg
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