#40
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:41:38 -0600
From: "Mark J. Kittleson, PhD, FAAHB" <kittle@SIU.EDU>
Subject: FW: HEDIR participation
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Received this letter related to my message yesterday.
Mark J. Kittleson, PhD, FAAHB
Professor, Health Education
Director of Graduate Studies
Department of Health Education & Recreation
Southern Illinois University
618-453-1841 (office)
618-453-1829 (fax)
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From: Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 3:13 PM
To: Mark J. Kittleson, PhD, FAAHB
Subject: Re: HEDIR participation
From my perspective, I think that some of the accusatory dialogue between
parties has dampened some of the enthusiasm to participate. I always consider
this a safe place to try out ideas and respond to topics, but others seem to
want to limit it in many ways, describing this as "not a forum for, etc.", and
somehow seeming to imply that people will be jumped upon for wasting others time
or expressing non-majority held opinions.
Remember the old delete button response option topic that came up some time ago?
Maybe just my impression, but perhaps a re-clarification about the
conversational ground rules and an invitation for people to take the chance to
discuss touchy subjects. I personally enjoy the banter though I generally don't
join in unless its right down my alley. The HEDIR is alot like what Mrs. Gump
would say, "Life is like a box of chocolates.....". I always preferred the nuts
to cocoanut anyway...
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#41
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:51:09 -0600
From: Michael Pejsach <healthedman@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: HEDIR participation
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Speaking out, with passion is something that, for some reason, is unacceptable
to health educators, especially, it seems to me (Oh, MY GOD I'M SPEAKING OUT ON
ISSUES!!!) for those who talk of empowerment and coalition building. I guess
it's got to be the "right" style of empowerment, and the "correct" coalition. I
like to think of the HEDIR as an opportunity to really brainstorm. Isn't
brainstorming as a legitimate teaching method? What will we learn by
brainstorming and talking about any and all issues that is fearful to some
health educators?
Glory days? Fearful day, perhaps folks fear speaking their mind!
Imagine, health educators fearful of speaking their mind on important issues. I
can tell you, for a fact, that it leads to being blacklisted.
I should show you my digest of folks who replied to my call for a single health
education professional organization! They all reported to me to keep it
confidential as they feared speaking out loud on the HEDIR!
It is truly sad.
Michael
On Jan 28, 2006, at 10:41 AM, Mark J. Kittleson, PhD, FAAHB wrote:
> ** Leadership Unmatched--AAHE
> ** www.aaheinfo.org
> **
> ** The HEDIR Bulletin Board
> ** www.kittle.siu.edu/comments2005
> **
>
> Received this letter related to my message yesterday.
>
>
>
>
>
> Mark J. Kittleson, PhD, FAAHB
>
> Professor, Health Education
>
> Director of Graduate Studies
>
> Department of Health Education & Recreation
>
> Southern Illinois University
>
> 618-453-1841 (office)
>
> 618-453-1829 (fax)
>
> _____
>
> From: Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 3:13 PM
> To: Mark J. Kittleson, PhD, FAAHB
> Subject: Re: HEDIR participation
>
>
>
> From my perspective, I think that some of the accusatory dialogue
> between parties has dampened some of the enthusiasm to participate. I
> always consider this a safe place to try out ideas and respond to
> topics, but others seem to want to limit it in many ways, describing
> this as "not a forum for, etc.", and somehow seeming to imply that
> people will be jumped upon for wasting others time or expressing
> non-majority held opinions.
> Remember the old delete button response option topic that came up some
> time ago? Maybe just my impression, but perhaps a re-clarification
> about the conversational ground rules and an invitation for people to
> take the chance to discuss touchy subjects. I personally enjoy the
> banter though I generally don't join in unless its right down my
> alley. The HEDIR is alot like what Mrs. Gump would say, "Life is like
> a box of chocolates.....". I always preferred the nuts to cocoanut
> anyway...
>
>
>
>
>
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Dr. Michael Pejsach, Ed.D.
Life&Health Enhancement Services
4636 W. Esplanade
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(504) 885-4254
(504) 779-KICK
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#42
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:54:28 -0500
From: Maureen Lebel <Maureen.Lebel@EMPIREBLUE.COM>
Subject: Maureen Lebel/law/Empire is out of the office.
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I will be out of the office starting 01/05/2006 and will not return until
01/31/2006.
I will respond to your message when I return.
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#43
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 21:17:14 -0500
From: KDG Consulting <kdgconsulting@VERIZON.NET>
Subject: Re: HEDIR Update
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And I think that's part of the issue, Bill - where are the messages? I used to
hear a dialogue - and yes, there were lots of messages, but I could choose what
to do with them, but now...if I see anything, it's so rare, I'm almost
surprised. If there's a way to reopen the dialogue, I have a couple of issues
I'd like to discuss - I've held back, as it were, because I had a sense of
shouting in the dark - or whatever the expression might be. Hope we can get more
of the old give and take back - as I said, I have some things to d iscuss, but
want to reach everyone and want everyone to have a chance to write back so that
all can hear.
Karen Denard Goldman, PhD, CHES
Co-author, Health Education Tools of the Trade: Tools for Tasks That Didn't Come
with the Job Description
Health, Physical Education and Recreation Kingsborough Community College
kgoldman@kbcc.cuny.edu
President, KDG Consulting
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From: HEDIR-L List [mailto:HEDIR-L@LISTSERV.SIU.EDU] On Behalf Of Cissell,
William
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 6:41 PM
To: HEDIR-L@LISTSERV.SIU.EDU
Subject: Re: HEDIR Update
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Marks and others interested:
Fulop is probably right about those of us who fired off zesty, bareknuckled
comments about controversial topics in the early days of HEDIR getting
overwhelmed by competing list services and other applications of electronic
communications. He is probably also right about some of the grassroots health
educators being hunkered down trying to survive.
In my case, I took on time and one-half employment for two years. My schedule in
the full time job, plus the commute to and from work curtailed my participation
in HEDIR dialog. Since I reduced my employment to half time (retirement teaching
option at Texas Woman's University), I have had some major family health
concerns and grieving of dying relatives and colleagues to address.
Of course, there were some early participants in the heated exchanges who were
easily offended and withdrew from the excahnges. I heard that one of our
colleagues vowed to never speak to me again. He is politically conservative,
which does not necessarily mean he is pleased with some of the actions of the
presidential administration. He found the liberal ideas of some of the more
active contributors to HEDIR dialog threatening.
One of the better functions of HEDIR that I have appreciated, along with the job
vacancy and continuing education announcements, has been a sharing of the the
good (engagements, weddings, promotions, etc.) and the bad (illness, injuries
and disaster/disaster relief stories). It is good to learn when colleagues have
events affecting their lives. I particularly appreciated the sharing of Bob
Russell's experience on the "offramp of life" and his
obituary. Other important messages that I appreciated in the past year
were on the illness of Bill Kane, the challenges Hurricanes Katrina and Rita
visited upon Michael Pejsach and others in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Texas,
and the trauma experienced by Michael Jenkins.
While I have not contributed nearly as much to the dialog on HEDIR for the past
couple of years, I have continued to find the messages I receive highly
worthwhile. Maybe most of those 1,500 plus members of this list service are
pleased that a few of us are posting less frequently these days.
Bill Cissell
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