Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:44:36 -0400

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Subject: Re: Accreditation and CHES

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Wow - that's interesting, Bill. And thank you!

Four questions that arise for me:

1. Do you know if the proposal you refer to automatically certify

anyone graduating from an accredited program is based on some statistical

data from NCHEC that tells us that graduates of particularly accredited or

approved programs have been shown to consistently do better on the CHES

exam?

2. What was the basis for this proposal?

3. Is it written up with a justification we can read?

4. What other profession does that and how has that worked?

I confess to having missed that in my reading of some of the accreditation

papers and I don't remember hearing it in Dallas, but I may have missed

that.

This is an important discussion - I'm glad to see people biting!

kdg

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Michael,

You may be reading what Karen said about allowing only graduates of

accreditied programs to become CHES incorrectly. The proposal is to permit

graduates of accredited programs to become certified without completing the

exam. This is based on the assumption that graduates of a program that has

met standards of strength in curriculum, faculty, and resources assure

qualified graduates. This does NOT prevent graduates of non-accredited

programs from becoming certified through completing successfully the

examination in the manner that all graduates of health educaiton preparation

programs currently become certified. It is likely that more graduates would

be come certified, rather than fewer.

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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:09:07 -0400

From: KDG Consulting <kdgconsulting@VERIZON.NET>

Subject: Re: Hlth Ed Program Accreditation - Professionwide Consensus Yet Achieved?

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In understand your point, but that a student who goes through an accredited

program and graduates with a minimal gpa is as qualified as a student who

does extremely well in an unaccredited, officially, but solid program, just

seems - unfair isn't the word, but something. If there were a

comprehensive exam at the end of the program and the student passed that,

that might work for me, but success depends on the program and the student

not one or the other, and sometimes either one more than the other, so we

have to be very careful.

Just more thoughts.

kdg

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Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 6:11 PM

To: KDG Consulting

Subject: RE: Hlth Ed Program Accreditation - Professionwide Consensus Yet

Achieved?

No, but I am interested in the dialog you should generate.

I believe that the proposal to have graduates of accredited programs receive

the CHES certificate without an examination does not eliminate those

prepared in other programs from becoming CHES. It merely indicates that

completion of an accredited program assures competence. Those completing a

non-accredited program can achieve CHES certification through the

examination. I support this proposal.

Accreditation is a process that assures quality of the professional

preparation program. It is worthwhile, because it verifies that the

curriculum, qualifications of the faculty, and resources supporting the

program match specific standards that programs without accreditation may

not.

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To: Cissell, William

Cc:

Subject: RE: Hlth Ed Program Accreditation - Professionwide

Consensus Yet Achieved?

Thanks. Do your observations match mine?

kdg

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Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:15 PM

To: KDG Consulting

Subject: RE: Hlth Ed Program Accreditation - Professionwide

Consensus Yet Achieved?

Karen,

Well said! It is good to get the dialog moving to clarify where

things are going.

Bill Cissell

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Greetings, colleagues!

I hope you are having a great summer.

Having just read the latest issue of SOPHE's News & Views, I

am moved to (1)

write and state my observation of the state of program

accreditation so far,

(2) to ask for clarification if I am mistaken and (3) to

urge all health

educators, not just professional preparation program people

to participate

in this important dialogue about the accreditation of health

education

programs. I welcome the opportunity to participate in the

dialogue as an

individual professional and on behalf of community colleges

who have so much

to offer in recruiting future health educators and providing

introductions

to second careers for current health workers.

AAHE and SOPHE coordinated a major congress in Dallas, Feb.

23-25, to

discuss the issue. Many of our esteemed friends and

colleagues have put in

many long hours on conceptualizing program accreditation and

keeping the

profession aware of the work being done. I was honored to

attend as a

representative of a community college - the potential

launch-pad for so many

health careers.

My position and concerns: Let me state right up front that

I am torn on

this subject: I want to support any movement that improves

the quality of

the performance of our practitioners and I am a very strong

admirer of the

health education leaders at the forefront of this movement..

That said, I

am also concerned about whether this movement reflects the

desires of the

whole profession, and I'm concerned about the cost to the

profession. I

worry about what will happen to certification if only

graduates of

accredited programs are eligible. I worry about creating a

gap between

accredited and noncredited program personnel, their

graduates, and potential

employers? Will it unite us, or will accreditation divide

us further? If

accreditation is achieved through CEPH, won't all programs

in health

education preparation need to meet the public health focus

requirements? If

that's the case, I worry about programs rooted in colleges

of education.

That said, here's my observation:

The Coalition for National Health Education Organizations

has approved and

supports the findings of the CUP Report.

I do not believe that that coalition - whose members include

all - is it

nine? - of our national health education organizations has

approved and

unanimously supports the idea of accreditation.

It seems to me that until that happens, there is not a

professionwide

mandate to support this movement. And maybe everyone

already knows that and

is going, "Duh, Goldman, we know. We're educating people

now so that each

organization can decide and then the CNHEO can vote!" If

that's the case,

great. Let's nurture this debate in all member

organizations and see what

the profession wants.

In short, unless I am misreading the messages sent in

various publications

and presentations, program accreditation is an idea that

merits our

attention and very serious consideration, but it has not yet

been accepted

by the whole profession as have the CUP results.

If I am correct in my interpretation - and welcome and know

I will get good

feedback if I'm not :-) - I would like to make certain that

the profession

is aware that program accreditation is NOT a done deal and

that we are in

the discussion phase.

In which case, let us continue the multi-logue among our

organizations and

talk about how, at all levels, in all situations this will

affect the

profession now and in the future.

As always, I offer - and have offered the movement leaders -

to put my money

where my mouth and moxie are. I would be glad to join or

provide input into

the Accreditation Task Force as a member of the professional

preparation

community - Kingsborough Community College is in the process

of completing

the final steps for approval of an AS degree program in

Community Health

with a health education concentration (we've had a Community

Health degree

program for 21 years!) and NO, the graduates will not be

eligible to sit for

the CHES exam because they will only have begun their

preparation for the

profession in what I hope is properly named the

"Consideration", not

"Implementation" Stage. Until a professionwide mandate has

been achieved, I

believe developing an Accreditation Implementation Task

Force is premature.

I look forward to a follow up ground swell of research,

consideration and

conversation about program accreditation across the nation,

among all of our

professional organizations, and then a decision on which way

to go.

Ducking with dignity the swings that will inevitably come, I

remain

sincerely yours,

kdg

Karen Denard Goldman, PhD, CHES

Co-author,

Education Tools of the Trade: Tools for Tasks That Didn't

Come with the Job

Description

Dept. of Health, Physical Education and Recreation

Kingsborough Community College

2001 Oriental Boulvard

Brooklyn, NY 11235

kgoldman@kbcc.cuny.edu

718-368-5716

President, KDG Consulting

Training and Development for Health Education and Promotion

Organizations

and Specialists

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Brooklyn, NY 11201

917-715-0928

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#503

Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:24:12 -0500

From: "Mark J. Kittleson, PhD, FAAHB" <kittle@SIU.EDU>

Subject: AAHE Position Statements

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Been asked to forward this over the HEDIR...

AAHE Position Statements and Resolutions

Official position statements and resolutions from recognized national

associations can be an important part of proving a case for a program,

service or cause. Do you need official position statements or resolutions

on any of the following?

Boxing

Certification of Health Education Teachers

Coordinated School Health Programs

Girl-Child Health Issues

HIV/AIDS Prevention Education in Schools

Incorporating Health Education into Teacher Preparation

Philosophy of Health Education

Professional Preparation in Health Education

Promotion of Positive Aging Within Health Education

Sexuality Education In Schools

Skin Cancer Prevention Within Health Education

The School Nurse In Education

Vehicle Occupant Protection

Violence Prevention and Intervention in Schools and Community

If so, go to aaheinfo.org/publications and click on Position Statements

l). You will find the official AAHE Position Statements and Resolutions in

downloadable form. Please direct any questions or comments relative to

AAHE Position Statements and Resolutions to aahe@aahperd.org.

Mark J. Kittleson, PhD, FAAHB

Professor, Health Education

Director of Graduate Studies

Department of Health Education & Recreation

Southern Illinois University

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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:01:33 -0500

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#505

Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:59:45 -0400

From: KDG Consulting <kdgconsulting@VERIZON.NET>

Subject: Re: Hlth Ed Program Accreditation - Professionwide Consensus Yet Achieved?

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That's a very valid point, Les - often it's not the lack of desire or

commitment to the process, but the economics and the politics. The dialogue

is beginning. I'm asking people who reply privately to me to also include

HEDIR as you did so all can participate in the exchange.

It seems, from the feedback so far, there is no professionwide acceptance of

the concept of program accreditation in health education and an important

discussion is doing on about its impact on certification.

Maybe over time we'll hear more.

kdg

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Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:54 AM

To: HEDIR-L@LISTSERV.SIU.EDU; kdgconsulting@VERIZON.NET

Subject: Re: Hlth Ed Program Accreditation - Professionwide Consensus Yet

Achieved?

It seems important to remember that whether it is through accreditation or

certification via testing, what we are saying is that they met the MINIMUM

to be considered qualified. It is no less "fair" for the student who does

extremely well on the exam versus one who barely passes, they both receive

the same certification. All either of these do is set a minimum standard,

There are many very well trained and experienced health educators working

around the nation that are not CHES certified. Neither certification or

accreditation address the quality of the individual beyond meeting the

minimum standard.

I believe that some standardization is good but I am concerned that we may

establish a "better than you" system based on resources to go through the

accreditation process rather than quality of program.

Thanks for the opportunity to participate.

Les Chatelain

Interim Department Chair

Health Promotion and Education

les.chatelain@health.utah.edu

250 S. 1850 E. #200

Salt Lake City, UT 84112

ph: (801) 581-4512

fax: (801) 585-3646

office: Annex 2114

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In understand your point, but that a student who goes through an accredited

program and graduates with a minimal gpa is as qualified as a student who

does extremely well in an unaccredited, officially, but solid program, just

seems - unfair isn't the word, but something. If there were a

comprehensive exam at the end of the program and the student passed that,

that might work for me, but success depends on the program and the student

not one or the other, and sometimes either one more than the other, so we

have to be very careful.

Just more thoughts.

kdg

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 6:11 PM

To: KDG Consulting

Subject: RE: Hlth Ed Program Accreditation - Professionwide Consensus Yet

Achieved?

No, but I am interested in the dialog you should generate.

I believe that the proposal to have graduates of accredited programs receive

the CHES certificate without an examination does not eliminate those

prepared in other programs from becoming CHES. It merely indicates that

completion of an accredited program assures competence. Those completing a

non-accredited program can achieve CHES certification through the

examination. I support this proposal.

Accreditation is a process that assures quality of the professional

preparation program. It is worthwhile, because it verifies that the

curriculum, qualifications of the faculty, and resources supporting the

program match specific standards that programs without accreditation may

not.

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Wed 7/26/2006 4:37 PM

To: Cissell, William

Cc:

Subject: RE: Hlth Ed Program Accreditation - Professionwide

Consensus Yet Achieved?

Thanks. Do your observations match mine?

kdg

_____

Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:15 PM

To: KDG Consulting

Subject: RE: Hlth Ed Program Accreditation - Professionwide

Consensus Yet Achieved?

Karen,

Well said! It is good to get the dialog moving to clarify where

things are going.

Bill Cissell

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From: HEDIR-L List on behalf of KDG Consulting

Sent: Wed 7/26/2006 12:59 PM

To: HEDIR-L@LISTSERV.SIU.EDU

Cc:

Subject: Hlth Ed Program Accreditation - Professionwide

Consensus Yet Achieved?

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Greetings, colleagues!

I hope you are having a great summer.

Having just read the latest issue of SOPHE's News & Views, I

am moved to (1)

write and state my observation of the state of program

accreditation so far,

(2) to ask for clarification if I am mistaken and (3) to

urge all health

educators, not just professional preparation program people

to participate

in this important dialogue about the accreditation of health

education

programs. I welcome the opportunity to participate in the

dialogue as an

individual professional and on behalf of community colleges

who have so much

to offer in recruiting future health educators and providing

introductions

to second careers for current health workers.

AAHE and SOPHE coordinated a major congress in Dallas, Feb.

23-25, to

discuss the issue. Many of our esteemed friends and

colleagues have put in

many long hours on conceptualizing program accreditation and

keeping the

profession aware of the work being done. I was honored to

attend as a

representative of a community college - the potential

launch-pad for so many

health careers.

My position and concerns: Let me state right up front that

I am torn on

this subject: I want to support any movement that improves

the quality of

the performance of our practitioners and I am a very strong

admirer of the

health education leaders at the forefront of this movement..

That said, I

am also concerned about whether this movement reflects the

desires of the

whole profession, and I'm concerned about the cost to the

profession. I

worry about what will happen to certification if only

graduates of

accredited programs are eligible. I worry about creating a

gap between

accredited and noncredited program personnel, their

graduates, and potential

employers? Will it unite us, or will accreditation divide

us further? If

accreditation is achieved through CEPH, won't all programs

in health

education preparation need to meet the public health focus

requirements? If

that's the case, I worry about programs rooted in colleges

of education.

That said, here's my observation:

The Coalition for National Health Education Organizations

has approved and

supports the findings of the CUP Report.

I do not believe that that coalition - whose members include

all - is it

nine? - of our national health education organizations has

approved and

unanimously supports the idea of accreditation.

It seems to me that until that happens, there is not a

professionwide

mandate to support this movement. And maybe everyone

already knows that and

is going, "Duh, Goldman, we know. We're educating people

now so that each

organization can decide and then the CNHEO can vote!" If

that's the case,

great. Let's nurture this debate in all member

organizations and see what

the profession wants.

In short, unless I am misreading the messages sent in

various publications

and presentations, program accreditation is an idea that

merits our

attention and very serious consideration, but it has not yet

been accepted

by the whole profession as have the CUP results.

If I am correct in my interpretation - and welcome and know

I will get good

feedback if I'm not :-) - I would like to make certain that

the profession

is aware that program accreditation is NOT a done deal and

that we are in

the discussion phase.

In which case, let us continue the multi-logue among our

organizations and

talk about how, at all levels, in all situations this will

affect the

profession now and in the future.

As always, I offer - and have offered the movement leaders -

to put my money

where my mouth and moxie are. I would be glad to join or

provide input into

the Accreditation Task Force as a member of the professional

preparation

community - Kingsborough Community College is in the process

of completing

the final steps for approval of an AS degree program in

Community Health

with a health education concentration (we've had a Community

Health degree

program for 21 years!) and NO, the graduates will not be

eligible to sit for

the CHES exam because they will only have begun their

preparation for the

profession in what I hope is properly named the

"Consideration", not

"Implementation" Stage. Until a professionwide mandate has

been achieved, I

believe developing an Accreditation Implementation Task

Force is premature.

I look forward to a follow up ground swell of research,

consideration and

conversation about program accreditation across the nation,

among all of our

professional organizations, and then a decision on which way

to go.

Ducking with dignity the swings that will inevitably come, I

remain

sincerely yours,

kdg

Karen Denard Goldman, PhD, CHES

Co-author,

Education Tools of the Trade: Tools for Tasks That Didn't

Come with the Job

Description

Dept. of Health, Physical Education and Recreation

Kingsborough Community College

2001 Oriental Boulvard

Brooklyn, NY 11235

kgoldman@kbcc.cuny.edu

718-368-5716

President, KDG Consulting

Training and Development for Health Education and Promotion

Organizations

and Specialists

kdgconsulting@verizon.net

184 Columbia Heights, Suite 3C

Brooklyn, NY 11201

917-715-0928

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#506

Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:53:32 -0600

From: Les Chatelain <Les.Chatelain@HEALTH.UTAH.EDU>

Subject: Re: Hlth Ed Program Accreditation - Professionwide Consensus Yet Achieved?

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It seems important to remember that whether it is through accreditation

or certification via testing, what we are saying is that they met the

MINIMUM to be considered qualified. It is no less "fair" for the student

who does extremely well on the exam versus one who barely passes, they

both receive the same certification. All either of these do is set a

minimum standard, There are many very well trained and experienced

health educators working around the nation that are not CHES certified.

Neither certification or accreditation address the quality of the

individual beyond meeting the minimum standard.

I believe that some standardization is good but I am concerned that we

may establish a "better than you" system based on resources to go

through the accreditation process rather than quality of program.

Thanks for the opportunity to participate.

Les Chatelain

Interim Department Chair

Health Promotion and Education

les.chatelain@health.utah.edu

250 S. 1850 E. #200

Salt Lake City, UT 84112

ph: (801) 581-4512

fax: (801) 585-3646

office: Annex 2114

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In understand your point, but that a student who goes through an

accredited

program and graduates with a minimal gpa is as qualified as a student

who

does extremely well in an unaccredited, officially, but solid program,

just

seems - unfair isn't the word, but something. If there were a

comprehensive exam at the end of the program and the student passed

that,

that might work for me, but success depends on the program and the

student

not one or the other, and sometimes either one more than the other, so

we

have to be very careful.

Just more thoughts.

kdg

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 6:11 PM

To: KDG Consulting

Subject: RE: Hlth Ed Program Accreditation - Professionwide Consensus

Yet

Achieved?

No, but I am interested in the dialog you should generate.

I believe that the proposal to have graduates of accredited programs

receive

the CHES certificate without an examination does not eliminate those

prepared in other programs from becoming CHES. It merely indicates

that

completion of an accredited program assures competence. Those

completing a

non-accredited program can achieve CHES certification through the

examination. I support this proposal.

Accreditation is a process that assures quality of the professional

preparation program. It is worthwhile, because it verifies that the

curriculum, qualifications of the faculty, and resources supporting

the

program match specific standards that programs without accreditation

may

not.

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Wed 7/26/2006 4:37 PM

To: Cissell, William

Cc:

Subject: RE: Hlth Ed Program Accreditation - Professionwide

Consensus Yet Achieved?

Thanks. Do your observations match mine?

kdg

_____

Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:15 PM

To: KDG Consulting

Subject: RE: Hlth Ed Program Accreditation - Professionwide

Consensus Yet Achieved?

Karen,

Well said! It is good to get the dialog moving to clarify

where

things are going.

Bill Cissell

-----Original Message-----

From: HEDIR-L List on behalf of KDG Consulting

Sent: Wed 7/26/2006 12:59 PM

To: HEDIR-L@LISTSERV.SIU.EDU

Cc:

Subject: Hlth Ed Program Accreditation -

Professionwide

Consensus Yet Achieved?

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Greetings, colleagues!

I hope you are having a great summer.

Having just read the latest issue of SOPHE's News &

Views, I

am moved to (1)

write and state my observation of the state of program

accreditation so far,

(2) to ask for clarification if I am mistaken and (3)

to

urge all health

educators, not just professional preparation program

people

to participate

in this important dialogue about the accreditation of

health

education

programs. I welcome the opportunity to participate in

the

dialogue as an

individual professional and on behalf of community

colleges

who have so much

to offer in recruiting future health educators and

providing

introductions

to second careers for current health workers.

AAHE and SOPHE coordinated a major congress in Dallas,

Feb.

23-25, to

discuss the issue. Many of our esteemed friends and

colleagues have put in

many long hours on conceptualizing program

accreditation and

keeping the

profession aware of the work being done. I was honored

to

attend as a

representative of a community college - the potential

launch-pad for so many

health careers.

My position and concerns: Let me state right up front

that

I am torn on

this subject: I want to support any movement that

improves

the quality of

the performance of our practitioners and I am a very

strong

admirer of the

health education leaders at the forefront of this

movement..

That said, I

am also concerned about whether this movement reflects

the

desires of the

whole profession, and I'm concerned about the cost to

the

profession. I

worry about what will happen to certification if only

graduates of

accredited programs are eligible. I worry about

creating a

gap between

accredited and noncredited program personnel, their

graduates, and potential

employers? Will it unite us, or will accreditation

divide

us further? If

accreditation is achieved through CEPH, won't all

programs

in health

education preparation need to meet the public health

focus

requirements? If

that's the case, I worry about programs rooted in

colleges

of education.

That said, here's my observation:

The Coalition for National Health Education

Organizations

has approved and

supports the findings of the CUP Report.

I do not believe that that coalition - whose members

include

all - is it

nine? - of our national health education organizations

has

approved and

unanimously supports the idea of accreditation.

It seems to me that until that happens, there is not a

professionwide

mandate to support this movement. And maybe everyone

already knows that and

is going, "Duh, Goldman, we know. We're educating

people

now so that each

organization can decide and then the CNHEO can vote!"

If

that's the case,

great. Let's nurture this debate in all member

organizations and see what

the profession wants.

In short, unless I am misreading the messages sent in

various publications

and presentations, program accreditation is an idea

that

merits our

attention and very serious consideration, but it has

not yet

been accepted

by the whole profession as have the CUP results.

If I am correct in my interpretation - and welcome and

know

I will get good

feedback if I'm not :-) - I would like to make certain

that

the profession

is aware that program accreditation is NOT a done deal

and

that we are in

the discussion phase.

In which case, let us continue the multi-logue among

our

organizations and

talk about how, at all levels, in all situations this

will

affect the

profession now and in the future.

As always, I offer - and have offered the movement

leaders -

to put my money

where my mouth and moxie are. I would be glad to join

or

provide input into

the Accreditation Task Force as a member of the

professional

preparation

community - Kingsborough Community College is in the

process

of completing

the final steps for approval of an AS degree program

in

Community Health

with a health education concentration (we've had a

Community

Health degree

program for 21 years!) and NO, the graduates will not

be

eligible to sit for

the CHES exam because they will only have begun their

preparation for the

profession in what I hope is properly named the

"Consideration", not

"Implementation" Stage. Until a professionwide mandate

has

been achieved, I

believe developing an Accreditation Implementation

Task

Force is premature.

I look forward to a follow up ground swell of

research,

consideration and

conversation about program accreditation across the

nation,

among all of our

professional organizations, and then a decision on

which way

to go.

Ducking with dignity the swings that will inevitably

come, I

remain

sincerely yours,

kdg

Karen Denard Goldman, PhD, CHES

Co-author,

Education Tools of the Trade: Tools for Tasks That

Didn't

Come with the Job

Description

Dept. of Health, Physical Education and Recreation

Kingsborough Community College

2001 Oriental Boulvard

Brooklyn, NY 11235

kgoldman@kbcc.cuny.edu

718-368-5716

President, KDG Consulting

Training and Development for Health Education and

Promotion

Organizations

and Specialists

kdgconsulting@verizon.net

184 Columbia Heights, Suite 3C

Brooklyn, NY 11201

917-715-0928

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Subject: Hooray for Marriott

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Colleagues:

Because of the bold move by Marriott in going "smoke free" this fall, I would

hope we would urge all our professional organizations to look to Marriott

first when making plans for conventions or other meetings.

Larry

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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:27:42 -0400

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Subject: Re: Hooray for Marriott

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Larry

Great idea...moreover, every time you check let them know how you much

you appreciate Marriott going smoke free for you can be assured that

smokers will be sharing how much they dislike the new policy. Marriott

needs to hear positive comments about their bold decision!

glover

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#510

Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:43:09 -0400

From: Raffy Luquis <rluquis@PSU.EDU>

Subject: Re: Hlth Ed Program Accreditation - Professionwide Consensus Yet Achieved?

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Hi HEDIR Colleagues,

I have attended meeting in which this topic has been discuss in

length, and there are few thing to remember...

- the propose changes came out of the results of the CUP project.

- there is currently a committee working on the implementation of the

CUP project results as it will impact the profession...as stated

previously...the idea is to get all the program accredited through

one of the current bodies (i.e., NCATE or CPHE) depending their

focus (i.e., school health vs. community or public health)...then

only those students who graduate from these programs will be able to

sit for the CHES test...

and yes some of the small preparation programs who offer a "generic"

degree will disappear while other will survive...

- Finally, it is my understanding that it will take few years before

the committee decides what it is going to happen next...so I think

that there is plenty time to discuss these issues as it will impact all of us.

- I will encourage those people involve in the committee overseeing

this process to get into this discussion to clarify any

misconceptions that we all may have....

Raffy

Raffy R. Luquis, M.S., Ph.D., CHES

Associate Professor of Health Education

School of Behavioral Sciences and Education

W 331 Olmsted

Penn State Harrisburg

777 West Harrisburg Pike

Middletown PA 17057

(717) 948-6730

(717) 948-6209 (fax)

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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:01:28 -0400

From: KDG Consulting <kdgconsulting@VERIZON.NET>

Subject: Re: Hlth Ed Program Accreditation - Professionwide Consensus Yet Achieved?

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Again, I think it's CUP that's been universally accepted, but not

accreditation which is still being discussed among the 9 organizations of

the CNHEOs. I don't think we're ready to think about implementation until

adoption, across the profession has been achieved.

Diffusion of Innovationly yours,

kdg

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Hi HEDIR Colleagues,

I have attended meeting in which this topic has been discuss in

length, and there are few thing to remember...

- the propose changes came out of the results of the CUP project.

- there is currently a committee working on the implementation of the

CUP project results as it will impact the profession...as stated

previously...the idea is to get all the program accredited through

one of the current bodies (i.e., NCATE or CPHE) depending their

focus (i.e., school health vs. community or public health)...then

only those students who graduate from these programs will be able to

sit for the CHES test...

and yes some of the small preparation programs who offer a "generic"

degree will disappear while other will survive...

- Finally, it is my understanding that it will take few years before

the committee decides what it is going to happen next...so I think

that there is plenty time to discuss these issues as it will impact all of

us.

- I will encourage those people involve in the committee overseeing

this process to get into this discussion to clarify any

misconceptions that we all may have....

Raffy

Raffy R. Luquis, M.S., Ph.D., CHES

Associate Professor of Health Education

School of Behavioral Sciences and Education

W 331 Olmsted

Penn State Harrisburg

777 West Harrisburg Pike

Middletown PA 17057

(717) 948-6730

(717) 948-6209 (fax)

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#512

Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:20:00 -0500

From: "Cissell, William" <WCissell@MAIL.TWU.EDU>

Subject: SABPAC recommendation

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Raffy,

While I was an active member of SABPAC, we proposed that graduates of accredited preparation programs be awarded CHES based on the their successful completion of all degree requirements in the accredited programs. The Framework that includes all of the areas of responsibility, competencies and subcompetencies serves as the basic organizing structure for the curricula evaluated by the accreditation review committees. Unaccredited programs will not have their curricula, faculty or resources assessed by an accrediting revieew committee, which means there is no assurance of quality of their programs. It would be beneficial for the accredited programs to have their graduates be awarded CHES certification without setting the exam.

The proposal to let only graduates of accredited programs set the CHES examination accomplishes nothing and would reduce the volume of health educators applying for certification. this of course would reduce the income to offset operating costs of NCHEC. If graduates of non-accredited programs are permnitted to set the exam, their proof of competence is based on successfully passing the exam. For graduates of accredited programs, their proof of competence is the ability to successfully complete a program that has met accreditation standards.

It is illogical to me that the Board of Commissioners of NCHEC would approve a policy that would reduce the volume of health educators applying for certification. If the policy were to charge the same application fee to health educators applying for certification from both accredited and non-accredited programs, the income for operating NCHEC would remain as strong as it is now or grow some. The cost of operation of the examinations would be reduced due to the graduates of accredited programs not taking the exam. The grads of accredited programs benefit from (a) not having to pay the expense of traveling to a test site and (b) not having to expend the time and energy to complete the examination. The grads of non-accredited programs would benefit from still having an opportunity to take the exam to prove their competence. NCHEC could use any financial gains from not testing the grads of accredited programs to slow increases in examination fees that occur periodically due to the rising costs of operations.

Bill Cisssell

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